Ukraine is losing the media war to Israel
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- The war in Israel and Gaza has diverted media attention away from Ukraine, and it could end up diverting resources for war fighting too. But these two wars are very different, and for the West a lot more is at stake in Ukraine.
0:00 Israel and Hamas overshadow Ukraine
1:48 A more urgent crisis
2:42 American politics
3:11 Misunderstanding Russia's motives
4:33 An existential threat
5:24 Two types of war
6:22 Supporting Ukraine
7:00 Future media coverage
Thanks for your report Anders. A very good explanation to the security threat to the west.
Anders hits the nail directly on the head! "Ukraine is an existential threat to EUROPE and Hamas just ain't!" Yes, an existential threat to *Europe*, but NOT the United States. I am an American veteran, a political independent, and when I was young I was prepared to fight and die to protect Nato from the Soviet Union.... but the USSR is gone. Russia's economy is the size of Italy's. And i see enormous amounts of US aid going to Ukraine, while the EU does very little. Why should Americans care, when it is so obvious that most Europeans do not? (I'm looking at Italy, Spain, France, Germany... as well as former Warsaw Pact countries like Hungary and Slovakia. And now Poland is backing out, leaving Romania...)
As an American, this is NOT a threat of any sort to us! So why should we sacrifice to save a bunch of "allies" who do next to nothing for themselves?
@@jamesburke3803 It‘s called geopolitics. To you it might seem unnecessary but if you are planing ahead for the next decades as a country, some things might pay out in the long term. Not ditching your allies is one of those things, for example. Makes you lose a lot of soft power.
@jamesburke3803 Respecting you as a veteran, i agree: you don't understand it. Neither do realise what's going on between US and RU. I won't explain it here, there are better sources (look up Silicon Curtain for general situation, but relating to US in particular - ex.g. Icarus Project or Upper Echelon take on disinformation and propaganda effects).
Also, the idea that US is giving so much and Europe so little is just false. All sides are doing far too little to enable Ukraine to win in forseeable future. This is not a competition for you, however it is for Russia's neighbours, people who best understand the situation. Latvia and Estonia has given over 1% GDP and 40-50+% of their army equipement to Ukraine, they know what's up. While some bigger countries are more in line with US (just as you, donating in value 0,3-0,4% GDP), Europe sacrifices on average more, while its economy is not larger and lately its also way weaker. Yes, there are jeopardised countries like Slovenia and Hungary, partly France and Germany too, that's why their aid is throttled. However, that is a problem of political will and Kremlin's meddling behind the scenes, besides most of EU is way less wealthy proportionally to US pk. Just look at the numbers, available on Statista and elswhere. Also, while US aid is ~90% old military equipment to be replaced, vast majority of EU aid is directly financial, multiple times that of US - just because our armies are smaller and less supplied. We are guilty of demilitarisation and smaller military budgrts, because most of us are just poorer and quite pacific. Only now most NATO members breached the 2% GDP military spending suggestion, and that will keep rising, rest assured. On a sidenote, all these numbers exclude private aid campaigns, very common in EU. Ex.g. proivate fundrisers in Lithuania and Latvia have bought multiple Bairaktars each for Ukraine, for €5M a pop, money which Bairaktar inc. donated to Ukraine in the end. That brings me to my next objection.
We do care strongly. Only exception are the zombified or "homo-Spvieticus", fallen under the poisonous spell of Russian disinformation campaigns, same as you have. Your sources are just false, and i know eactly where they're coming from, which you don't. Eastern Europe knows it best, that's why soon after 24/02/22 our legislation included informational charges against those justifying Russia's aggression and glorifying the returned enemy, in other words 5th column or traitors. People i know have spent 1/2year in prison and are banned from posting and social media, rightly so.
That brings me to the last point
. Russia (along with all its autocratic allies making a new Axis) IS an existential threat to Russia. Look up Ayn Rand'sinstitute's lectures on this topic, between many others. Your society is infiltrated, infested, brainwashed and polarised like never before. It's mostly the new, fascist Russia's merit, believe it or not. If you don't realise it, new Axis greatest weapon - propaganda psyops - will make you tear yourself apart - same goes for all democratic countries, if they give in. This is a very serious situation, that is my warning to all people in US who are led to believe the nonsense you wrote. Likes of Tucker Carlson, Douglas McGregor, Alex Jones, even John Messercheimera, Andrew Tate, Russel Brand, many Republican (not only) appeasers and conspirology enthusiasts will have to pay very dearly for their words. That's not a guess, but promise.
You are in danger, same as all 'western' democratic world and rules-based international order. Russia today is not USSR, , true, its way worse, despite being economically and terittorially weaker, you just don't realise for what it stands and what they're doing and planning to do. That's why you don't understand how and why this remote war in Ukraine (or Israel, Africa, partly Azerbaijan) started.
You can keep being ignorant, complaining about your 'sacrifice', which even with high valuation of old assets donated, which costs your country on average 20 cents/month/pc. Just don't talk nonsense and label it as 'truth', or pretend you understand the extrme complexity of geopolitical situation while dumbing it down resulting in completely wrong conclusions. It will not stop, despite very unlikely chance of Russia attacking US directly. It is attacking for at least 15 years, just last two out of them in order of magnitude more intensly. You either have to stay out of these discussions and let the lukewarm goverment decide, or you'll have to educate yourself to at least partially understand what and why is going on.
Realise, or don't, you're more divided and deluded , most divided since the war of independance. You are under attack, by turning your own citizens against each other and the very values you built your most prosperous country upon. "Pen is more poweful than a gun", someone said long time ago. By now, that pen is changed into social - and other - media for you. Listen to what Russia's neighbours say, and most importantly - listen to what Russia's Duginist talking heads say about themselves and yourself. Best of luck.
@@jamesburke3803if you look at the millitary support in dollar terms then clearly the US is the number 1. But if you consider the financial aid from EU institutions, from single countries, the humanitarian aid and the cost of hosting millions if refugees then every(!) EU-country spends more in GDP% than the US.
According to the Kiel Ukraine support tracker the combined costs/pledges are: 0,3% of GDP for the US, 0,6% Ireland, 1,3% Germany, 3,6% Poland.
Also you might consider the US engagement as an investment to prevent other master-strategists from attacking US interests. Ignoring Putin would be an INVITATION for Xi to attack any neighbours!
To my previous comment↑↑: correction. I just meant to say that yes, Russia and its autocratic allies is definitely an existential threat to US (not Russia as stated). Also my i meant to say around 60%+% of US aid is weapons, with replacement cost included, not 90%. I can drop the links, which were recently still allowed in comments, but last few months i've been penalised and my comments with internal YT links are deleted, while guidelines allow it.
P.S. Also excuse the spelling, as i write in blind, my reserve phone's OS doesn't show the text before its posted, can't edit neither. And guy above me is right, just numbers vary depending how and what you count. Latvia and Estonia are constantly battling for the top space in terms of %GDP. Pity, that we're so small.))
P.P.S. Also, i highly suspectthat we're all replying to a kremlinbot.
I still watch news about Ukraine from independent You Tubers
A difficult video to make as there will be advocates who do not see this point of view. You have shown courage and that is a great thing.
Israel can (and will) handle itself. Ukraine can't fight Russia alone, period. And if they don't win against Russia, the danger shifts westward.
It does? Based on what evidence exactly? A hint- " It is so because Regina George said so " is not evidence.
Israel alone cannot exist, it is US military power on Israel's corner. Oh and the Israelis have US aircraft carriers to protect israeli gas pipelines planning to export to Europe.
They used the same argument for the Vietnam war, and the Korean War and so on. It's easy for fool the peasants against their own interest.
And you call yourself a professor?! The nonsense you write here would not even be written by a child. Shame!
An aggressive nuclear power, run as a mafia mob, who would have invaded and conquered their neighbour?
They would, including the borders of two vassal states, be sitting on the borders of Finland, Estonia, Lithuania Latvia, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania. Despite Putin saying his concern with Ukraine was Nato extending it's borders. Absolute cobblers. Give yer heads a wobble and try ditching the pre industrial revolution world view.
Solution: Make sure that you always click on and read Ukraine-related news articles. This is all you really need to do to alter the newsroom's priorities. Even if you have to search or scroll down all to the footer.
Keep talking about Ukraine, share articles, use hashtags, like videos, advocate.
🤣🤣 Don't forget to inhale some copium while scrolling and clicking. Delusional to think your "clicks" or "scroll to the bottom" would change anything🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Rektarn Public attention and money are the only language corporations speak. Cope and seethe while the Black Sea "Fleet" burns.
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Some context on Shuster’s Time hit piece: he gloated on Twitter about using rubles in Crimea in 2015 + past article titles include “Ukrainians Want Russia to Invade,” “No, Russia Will Not Interfere in Ukraine,” & “Nazis Have Hijacked Ukraine’s Liberal Uprising,”
Anyone noticing a theme? It’s amazing Time let a man openly hostile to Ukraine author this story.
Finally, his anonymous “sources” included Arestovych whose ambition is to become president. A guy now living in Europe after becoming unpopular when he argued Ukraine should not do away with a Russian centric culture and blamed an AD mssile for civilian deaths after it hit a Russian missile that then fell to the ground in a residential area.
US media is mostly controlled by right-wing elements. Even if Time is from liberal NY, they still largely propagate the Republican's agenda; even if that is to propagate far-left articles as well. I am not sure almost anyone working there even understands this.
It's part of Russian hybrid warfare. In the cold war the soviets only supported communist/left actors, but in the modern world Russia plays both sides, frequently supporting far-right but also far-left actors.
The right in the US are completely in Russia's bag, and they control all the media, so put 2 and 2 together. When it aids their goals, Time will be pro-Russian. When they can make pro-Ukrainians look silly, they will vehemently defend Ukraine and spread falsehoods like they are doing now.
Agreed!
It is not the first time an influential American news source is obviously biased against Ukraine - and against American interests. There were already some pieces similar in NYT in the past. But this one is more damaging due to timing.
It is beyond my comprehension how something like this can happen. I mean - normally what you have just brought up should pretty much strongly undermine Time's reputation (and clearly label Shuster as a Russophile), yet it has been generally received at face value. Very, very sad.
The title was 'Many Ukrainians Want Russia To Invade' and the 2014 article was about the sentiment of the Russian-speaking population in Donbas and Crimea.
Many experts, incl the Ukrainian goverment, did not believe that Russia would invade in debruary 2022.
Can't find the article “Nazis Have Hijacked Ukraine’s Liberal Uprising”.
@@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo Entirely false proposition that the government, and "many experts" if we are talking about Ukrainian ones, didn't think Russia would invade in 2022.
Apart from I'm sure a few fringe actors, 100% of Ukrainian military experts predicted the invasion and the first few weeks relatively accurately, including the president's advisory groups.
The official statement was that "Russia will not invade" so as to not provoke them, which turned out to be a mistake as it delayed concrete actions and caused panic.
In terms of foreign experts who have been right in the past, they were also right about Ukraine. The only people wrong about Ukraine were the people who were wrong about every other war, so there is a distinction.
Anders you are an all too rare voice of well-informed reason. Thank you for what you are doing, sharing your honest, balanced expertise.
Thank you. Glad you find it useful. 😊
There’s not enough leaders talking about the story of why Ukraine is important. The west is so divided and ppl are sick of politicians starting endless wars without end. We risk this happening again because the leaders are not decisive and clear in their vision. Ukraine isn’t being given enough to win the war.
Ironic since fighting in the Middle East, Israel vs Palestine, Israel vs everyone is literally the longest war and the most unsolvable. Yet we still stand solidly with Israel with support.
@jazeboy I don‘t know where you are based, but from a German perspective I could not agree more with your statement. The lack of decisiveness is what is enraging me. Scholz has no clear vision or at least he doesn’t communicate it. Especially in the beginning of the war, the politicians in Germany had HUGE support from the population for giving more advanced weapons to Ukraine. But they didn‘t. They were humming and hoing about whether or not to provide this or that weapons system. „We are coordinating with our allies and waiting for them BLA BLAA BLAAA.“ Then after endless deliberation, they would grant weapons systems that would have been so much more useful had they been in Ukraine months earlier.
One more thing: I read an interesting interview (forgot where) where some analyst put it like this: Western countries are holding weapons systems back so as not to enrage Russia in the hopes they might stop escalating the war. He proposed turning around: demand of Russia to stop attacking a certain city or to stop an illegal referendum or whatever OR ELSE we give Ukraine the weapons systems.
Problem is commitment, most politicians are to some extent self-absorbed enough to run for government as their word is somewhat critical in so much that we accuse Russia of moving goalposts on what constitutes a 'success' in a special military operation. Most politicians are about as rubbery when it comes to numbers and definite actions, the old case of saying you'll do something, but can't deliver on the day or to sufficient completion.
This isn't really specific to any country's politicians, they're all fairly crap, but I'm with you 100% that the narrative needs to change from 'Aid to Ukraine' to 'Supply material to remove Russia from Ukraine' because its the core problem where no one's taken ownership of the situation there and come up with the broader logistical strategy.
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But couldn't that be because German industry is dependent on russian gas and therefore want to go back to buisness as usual as soon as possible and is fearful to burn all bridges with russia? And then there are German politicians who (probably?) are in the pockets of FSB... like Schröder, Wagenknecht, AfD, the socialdemocrats and so on.
So of course are they against a hardline against russia. And then you got a million strong russian decendents who are pro-russia. And many east Germans have this confused views on Ost-Politik, appeasement, admiration for Putin/Orbans anti-LGBT conservatism, and so on. And then you got stupid pacifists, and women who sincere uncontrollable fear of a nuclear war.
So a consensus is hard to reach. And it is hard to combine new policies with old German political tradition.
And this could explain why Germany is hesitant to send Taurus.
However Germany is not the main problem in Europe. I think the Italian and French indifference to Ukraines fate is more worriesome right now. And Slovakia and Hungary are openly hostile to Ukraine, and USA have even recently held a Nato meeting (togheter with Sweden) where the issue of Hungary was discussed, as there are a concern that this country is acting like a pro-russian Trojan horse inside Nato.
Poland, Hungary, Bulgaria, Slovakia and a few other East European countries do care more about their own farmers than helping the wartorn Ukrainian economy to stay afloat.
I also think that russian FSB have infiltrated our media and is pumping out russian propaganda talking points: "The war is over", "Ukraine cannot win", "Ukraine is forgotten now coz Israel", "The counter-offensive was a massive failure", "Ukrainian losses are heavy and unsubstainable", and such nonsense.
Especially New York Times have pumped out pro-russian garbage throughout this war, with all kinds of lies. They claim that USA destroyed the Northstream pipeline according to an anonymous source. Or that allies are trying to force Zelensky to make peace right now.
Personally I think Ukraine has done pretty well this year. Russian artillery have been dealt a severe blow with losing 5000 pieces this year. They have lost their most modern pieces and now more and more use old D1 artillery pieces from WW2 as a replacement. Ukraine now almost have a monopoly on counter-battery radars. And Ukraine now fires more artillery shells per day than russia despite EU have failed to give more than 30% of the 1 million artillery shells it have promised to give to Ukraine. And now russia also lacks experienced artillery crews.
This is devestating I think. A much more hard blow to russia than if they had lost Kherson and Zaporizhia provinces this year. Think about it. This is an artillery war. And russian artillery is nearly extinct because of Ukraines systematic hunt for their artillery pieces. And imagine having to fight this war for 10 years without artillery. That would be devestating for russia. You cannot fight defensive war effectivly without artillery, and even less so can you make any attacks.
So I think russia is doomed if we keep on supporting Ukraine.
Russian industry only produce something like 200.000 artillery shells per year (according to Ukrainian sources) or 1 million (according to russian sources). But when russia consumes 17 million artillery shells this year and 22 million back in 2022... then I think russia no longer can keep on fighting the war next year like they have the previous years. And 1 million artillery shells imported from North Korea will only shortly delay the coming starvation of artillery shells.
And without artillery shells will more infantry die and losses starts to go up. Ukraine knows what this hardship means, and soon will russia also begin to feel it.
I also suspect that the russian propaganda about their economy doing fine is just nonsense. Having a 15% interest rate is not what I call a healthy economy. When people have to pay more money to the banks for their homeloans, credit card debts, car loans, student debts and so on.. before they can start buying food, books, cinemas tickets and furniture.. then I think that the russian economy will slowly starve itself to death. If no one can afford to buy stuff anymore will factories be forced to shut down, or to lower wages or fire workers. And when people no longer get a wage, then they will be even more unable to buy anything - so factories have to downscale production even more and lay off workers.
And that means less taxes coming in to the government, and more people that needs unemployment benefits and welfare to survive when they cannot work and support themselves.
I also think it is difficult for companies to earn a 15% profit per year so they can afford to both repay their loans and make a profit. And on top of that they also need to pay for wages, repairs for machines, and for material inputs for production.
So I think the desperate measure of raising interest rates to prevent the ruble from falling will become very harmful to the russian economy. And they will probably have to raise interest rates even more in the future.
Very good analysis, as always. I think you are absolutely right on the point that our politicians in the west just can't get it in their heads that we are in a long conflict with russia, and one that will get worse with time the weaker we are now with completely supporting Ukraine in defeating russia. Remember March 2022, everyone was asking, "How did we not see this happening when putin had told about his intentions for years!" and now, when the confrontation against west is crystal clear to everyone in russia, we are yet again completely deaf and blind to the situation. I so would not want to listen "how did we not see this when they were clear about their intentions" in the coming years.
Yes, it is flabbergasting to see how people are not more up to the task of supporting Ukraine. There's literally a major war going on at the gateway to Europe, but we're not sending everything we've got short of combat troops? The aid sent has shown that heavy equipment and logistics will not trigger Russia's use of tactical nukes, so why are we still holding back? Zelensky still needs ammo, not a ride.
To be fair the media and the western population should take their part of the blame for this blindness.
It's one thing to acknowledge the stupidity of some of the decisions made, it's another to not make the corrections, and continue down the same path knowing it leads to a very harsh outcome.
Russia has cloaked the West into thinking of its domestic problems and that the war in Ukraine is not going to effect the people in the long run when the war is over. This couldn't be far from the truth as stated already by many. The Russian invasion of Georgia is a prime example.
@@cheztaylor8 The people of Poland, the Baltic States, Sweden and Finland disagree with you.
Thank you so much for a much needed dose of reality and level headed analysis. I agree the West in general and the United States in particular are slow to get up off the mat and start taking the war in Ukraine seriously. Israel/Gaza is a nasty dumpster fire but the 'forest' is burning down in Ukraine.
Lol ok, in what metrics? 13000 killed in a month in Palestine compared to less than that number in 2 years in of the Ukraine war? No wonder why India couldn't care less to obey your sanctions. The west makes its own problems the world's problems. Dumpster fires, give me a break. Ukraine has military support, Palestine has none. Yea dumpster fire. Compare that to genocide and gradual apartheid?
Ukraine has been spoiled for 20 months with media attention until it became clear to everyone that it failed in the summer offensive.
Slow? Europe COMBINED didn't match America's donations for the entire first YEAR.
No matter how much we give Europe all we ever get in return is complaints it's not enough, and Europeans wonder why Americans are tired of it.
You are so right
Thank you Anders. You are spot on, as usual.
Thank you for sharing your wisdom, it is a very sobering analysis of the situation. No doubt many of us in Europe are still a bit naively thinking that things will go back to how things were before the war "in a year or two," when in reality there has been a significant paradigm shift.
People feel too sure of Ukraine's success, and are coming to neglect what they need to win it.
Worse part is that they believe that if they will do nothing then Ukraine still win or if they do just a tiny bit too late then it will be same Ukraines victory.
They've already lost it.
I can litterally say the same for people cheering for russia. Although considering the starting odds I have no clue why someone still thinks this has a happy ending for russia.
I don't hear of anyone who is sure of Ukraine success. Not now, not from day one. They never had a chance.
@@robertdavidson8028they why are so many russian tanks helicopters and Russian soldier's that will never see there parents and wives again dieing
Really good points as always. I didn't know that you were military!
I suggest, too, that the immediate pro Palestine protests across many Western countries, and the obvious schisms amongst politicians and the public has been a big shock. This has brought the conflict much closer to home, in sense, than the Ukraine war. People see the potential for major civil unrest due to the Israel Hamas war which was never a risk from the Ukraine Russia conflict.
The influence from Israelis and Palestinians into Western politics outside of Eastern Europe is much bigger than the influence from either Russia or Ukraine. They have much more money there in Israel.
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If the US walks away from Ukraine now, the US would lose the Indo Pacific to China. The Philippine, Thailand, Viet Nam and all others would think twice signing on to the US.
Those regions are of no consequence to the US. Not their land. If you want to fall to the Chinese, that's fine. Just don't come crying one day like Ukraine.
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From your sign on name, my guess is you are Vietnamese. From my reading of your comment, I do not think you are a very bright one.
Ukraine is a proud nation, a proud people, fighting for their independence, for their survival just like the Vietnamese for thousands of years against China.
For a Vietnamese to be pro China, I do not see anything more tragic and more sad.
But throughout Vietnamese history, there have been plenty of sad occurrences.
@@Kukaboora 😂... You've missed understood... I'm saying if the Indo pacific wants to fall to the Chinese that's their business....just don't come crying...but to say the US is losing that region as some kind of threat, I don't see it...I did like your little poem....
I realised instantly as soon as it happened. What he is now saying.
Tack!
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@@Rektarn ??????????
Stalin was Georgian
@Diego_Teixeira ARE YOU FOR REAL?? MORE DEATH IN GAZA THAN IN UKRAINE 🇺🇦 GENOCIDE IN UKRAINE 🇺🇦 ARE HORRIBLE, PUTIN ABDUCTED OVER 20 000 CHILDREN FROM UKRAINE 🇺🇦 AND TAKING THESE CHILDREN TO RUSSIA, SHAME!! HAMAS IS A TERRORIST ORGANISATION, NOTHING ELSE, ALL PEOPLE IN GAZA CAN SAY THANK YOU TO HAMAS FOR POVERTY AND THE WAR!!! WAKE UP ⏰️
Having seen how fickle our attention span is in the United States (and possibly elsewhere) I think it has been a great accomplishment for the Ukrainians that they were able to keep Ukraine front and center in the news for almost two years straight! I was worried all along that the war in Ukraine would fade from the news the same way e.g. the civil war in Syria became invisible and then was lost quickly after with Assad remaining strongly in power. I trust Biden and his administration, at least, to keep proper attention on the Ukraine situation even if Congress doesn't.
Wiliam Spaniel pointed out that less media coverage could be good for Ukraine.
While they wait for 300KM ATACMS, F16s and less muddy conditions -- the "stalemate" point get's less attention, until UA makes a breakthrough, then more attention is good.
Hamas could be finished by the time that Ukraine starts becoming more effective - so these two topic could compliment each other.
The media goes where ever the most drama and sensationalism is. Its sells. Higher ratings. Remember it is all about the money.
Lots of elections are happening, those new people might have different motivations and can cause division and disorder and damage from the inside intentionally or not.
But there needs to be attention to the stalemate, because without significant additional aid Ukraine will not be able to break the stalemate in its favour. Thinking that a small number of "wonder weapons" will do that is foolish.
@this is true also the Levant generates a lot of attention i guess Ukraine just found this out. Note how attention on Ukraine was fading lately remember how coronavirus which was fading somewhat in attention once Russia invaded Ukraine it all but vanished
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The media like new things. That is all. It is up to politicians to keep things relevant
Thank you for been open and for talking without the goal of signaling any specific moral stance. I have personally experienced the attitude towards an unexpected threat in a personal defense scenario. My reaction was to refuse to think that something dangerous could manifest itself in a peaceful European city. Unfortunately we need to be prepared for the worse, even in our currently peaceful Europe. I hope that your message reaches our politicians.
Hold the line, for Ukraine!
Thank you
Appreciate all that you do to inform the general public of the geopolitical reality going on in Ukraine and Russia.
I don't know what the political situation is in Europe, but in the USA, the Israel situation looks like it's creating a fracture in the Democrat party. So the current administration is fully in support of Ukraine, but its attention is squarely on Israel.
Europe is a complex country but in a sense most of Europe is quite neutral about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. It's unlikely that European countries will support any of the sides because it's pretty polemic, but the media attention away from Ukraine and Russia in Western Europe only creates the conditions for Russian informational operations. They have ramped up their InfoOps recently to countries like Germany, France and Sweden, and that's really bad. I don't think it'll work in Sweden's case, but in the case of Germany or France it's unfortunatelly working already.
In my opinion, the public also pays too little attention to the fact that these two wars should be seen in a greater context. The fact that the situation in the Middle East has taken such dramatic turns right now is most likely no coincidence: Iran is Russia's closest ally and at the same time it is Hamas greatest supporter. The fact that a delegation of that terrorist organization visited Moscow two weeks ago underlines this even more and the question of Cui Bono should definitely be asked in view of the entire situation.
It seems obvious to me that Russia has at least a hand in Gaza and that defeating its forces in Ukraine is therefore crucial to addressing one of the root causes of the problem and also preventing Moscow from destabilizing even more regions of the world in the future.
Yet Israel never sanctioned Russia when we did. They are two peas in a pod.
I have been thinking the same. It seems kinda obvious, that Russia would benefit from the shifting focus of especially the US.
There is a specific clip during the initial breech of the fences/walls where a Russian speaking (presumably Wagner) soldier is yelling instructions in Russian to the Hamas troops advancing through the hole. So I would phrase it as "Russia has directly supported Hamas with military training and leadership" now where Putin has officially confirmed that Wagner always was a sock puppet of the Russian government only existing for the sake of plausible deniability.
That Prigozhin had "a special military disagreement" with Putin and subsequently went kasplat over it, along with the entire power core of Wagner is one thing, but that Wagner is still perfectly operational and engages in new activities after the fact, along with Putin's direct confirmations on TV tells us everything we need to know: Wherever "Wagner is conducting operations" should no longer be considered asymmetric warfare, or any of that vague nonsense, but should be considered exactly the same as if Russia was sending in the Spetsnaz or VDV.
Exactly! Did you glean those insights from the MSM?
I'd add that although Beijing is spooked and acting innocent, Xi declared unlimited "friendship" with P00ti and does not attempt to hide meetings with Iran, Assad, and the Taliban.
I seriously doubt Russia has any tangible links to Hamas. 1# No money. 2# No geopolitical advantage, they already have a base in Syria, Gaza/West bank gets them??? 3# Russia never lets a crisis go to waste or there isn't one, it will make one. Chaos works in their favour. 4# Hosting Hamas doesn't change their diplomatic situation and wastes our energy trying to find link. 5# We have no evidence. No hosting Hamas isn't evidence, talk is cheap. 6# It already has its hands full.
Israel is a side show that we did Ukraine a disservice linking to it. It helps them shift attention. I am glad that Ukraine and supporters are backed off pretty quickly after seeing the mess that is Israel. Ukraine / Israel a diametrically different in almost every way.
I think what is driving the attention on Gaza is that it is a long lasting conflict that has polarized the western public opinion since decades. Thus, as soon as something big happens, we end up with very polarized opinions.
Exactly
It is a decades long fight for survival of the only country in the Middle East that is a functioning democracy and recognizes human rights. Seeing the horrors that radical Muslims want to inflict on the "infidels" of the West is rightly concerning, particularly in light of the support such radicals have in the West.
There is no perceived threat from Russia in the US. Russia is far too weak to pose a non nuclear threat to the US so attention shifts to the new news cycle... Unfortunate, I absolutely believe that we need to help Ukraine break Russias back. It sends a message around the world. Abandoning it like the far right crazies want also sends a message. The wrong one but a message nonetheless
What is driving the attention is that Jews are involved. All the Jew-haters woke up. Incidentally, the Jew-haters are aligned with the Russia-Iran-China axis. Slava Ukraini, Go Israel!
It's not that polarised.
For instance in the UK only 8% support the genocide in Gaza, in France it's 10%.
But the politicians support it.
Europe really, really needs to step up here, and stop with the internal kindergarten quarrels.
Much awaited, much appreciated looking forward to excellent insights as always from you.
Thank you!
Well argued
I would say the 24-7 media cycle has been deeply unhelpful to Ukraine and contributed to fatigue around the issue.
As long as government supports keep going I could see this being a good thing tbh.
MSM just publish celebs and stuff that does not matter and for actual information the internet has won. Especially for defence and investment. Ukraine is part of the coming world conflict and to understand it best to research not buy a newspaper or waste time watching MSM
Yeah but government support is, at least partially, contingent on public support. And you know what they say, out of sight, out of mind.
@@LiosProsum Well, just partially. Maybe Europe will need to step up more if american politicians flip. I don't think its that common to leave major security policy chifts to public opinion, at least not in Europe from what I've seen.
@@lennyztrobos8678 true, but unfortunately there are already Trojan horses among the European states.
i shall say Ukraine failed to UTILIZE this inconvenient media cycle.
I just don't understand how folks don't see Ukraine as a replay of Poland circa 1939.
Because it's not. Not EVERYTHING is WW2.
it's a childish analysis to compare everything to WW2 and so obviously wrong
Really appreciate the not so much cold, but fact-based logic you present. The world needs leaders like yourself that are willing to see things as they really are, and not just what they hope, or want, to see.
May this video go viral.
You put it in a way even a simpleton could understand.
Tak Anders for denne opdatering
Thanks for your clear assessment. I noticed myself focused on Gaza news almost to the exclusion of Ukraine news after about 2 weeks and then started to seek out Ukraine news. It’s harder to find now, for the reasons you describe.
Your concerns are my concerns, as well. As a US citizen, I am worried that this will empower the anti-Ukraine politicians here.
good we’re tired of our taxes funding proxy wars
This is exactly right
Very wise words! Why are many of the senior governmental decision makers so ignorant, despite their often significant intelligence ressources?
I dont think so....people here in Danmark are so tired of listen to middle east problems all the time ..but Ukraine is on oyr heads all the time
I feel the same, but I do meet many who are more focused on Israel.
@@khulgarulfsson8067 yes...here to Israel has lost its sympathy long time ago...tjey are acting like russia
Same in Sweden
Not in the US unfortunately.
An Italian here. Unfortunately in my country I can see the pattern explained by Anders. The Israeli-Palestinian war occupies practically all of the media's attention, from newspapers to television.
My attention has never wavered from Ukraine. I've had zero interest in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I haven't read a single article, haven't watched a single video on that conflict. Why?
What Anders says here +
1) There's hope in the Ukraine war and
2) There's no hope in the Israel/Palestine situation. It's just dismal.
Felt the same. Look at number of views under Israel-Palestine issue. Ppl don't really give any damn
@@Nataliya-kv3de Except the media though.
@@diogorodrigues747 People need to think for themselves more. The older I get, the more critical of the media I become.
@@simian_essence Sometimes I think it's actually the opposite, depending on the situation. Also the education we in most of the world have is completely obsolete for the Internet age and only allows conspiracies and informational operations from authoritarian countries to expand more into people's minds. Academy also plays a big role into this sh*tty situation by turning the access to real information more difficult.
@rvanden4740 Yours numbered points are bang on the money. Our collective support for the Ukraine is absolutely crucial in ensuring their victory. What good can we do in Gaza? Humanitarian aid is about the whole of it, and its effect is essentially palliative.
For the media attention.
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Just in: The House Committee on Foreign Affairs of the US Congress has approved a bill on using confiscated Russian assets to aid Ukraine. Still needs to pass the Senate.
I wish I heard this viewpoint expressed anywhere else. American politics has an unhealthy fixation with Israel. I also fear the right wing identifying with Putin's anti-democratic and anti-liberal nature seeing him as an ally in their culture war politics. Unfortunately none of it is real to them. We're in a quagmire of unreality
Putin's 'useful idiots' number in the millions in the West. No wonder he is still confident, he's playing the long game. The West is eating itself, and Putin's war is ringing the dinner bell.
There seems to be a lot that’s true in your comment. But keep in mind, beyond the immature, culture war-based support for Israel, Israel serves as an essential Middle East outpost for our pointillist empire. So, its preservation serves an essential geopolitical role.
@@RedState420Esq And a moral role, not just a geopolitical role. Western atonement for the Holocaust and the centuries of Jewish pogroms and persecution are bound up in the state of Israel and the necessity of it's continued existence. Or maybe it is Christian atonement because the Muslims don't seem to have anything they feel the need to atone for despite conquering and colonizing Persia to Portugal and they certainly don't see the necessity of Israel's continued existence.
@@vaughanbean1156 The tragic irony is we enabled the oppressed to become the oppressor from this misplaced "Atonement". It's farce. To compare, if Ukraine did a tiny fraction of what Israel does, they would never get into NATO or EU. Evidenced by EU ghosting Turkey because of its awfulness.
@@RedState420Esqbefore Israel happened you didn't need any outpost in middle east. Back then Iran was popular tourist destination for westerners, Libia was flourishing, and no one in Iraq would said anything bad about USA...
Thank you Anders for bringing this to light. It is exactly what I am experiencing when talking to others here in Denmark, and unfortunately more and more people fail to understand the difference between the two wars, and what the war in Ukraine means to the rest of us, both in Europe, and eventually the world.
Look Anders, you are absolutely right, the UK had an internal security conflict going on for 30-35 years in Northern Ireland and in reality gained nothing. Israel and Hamas won’t end in my lifetime so is a waste of time and effort, all you can do is defend yourself. Also the fact that that “minor conflict” has no comparison to the “war” that is raging in the European and NATO area of responsibility. Thanks
Tak Anders!
I do agree to your analysis about Russia being hostile to the West/Nato.
But maybe you underestimate the potential of the war in Gaza to escalate by direct involvement of Iran and thus US - this will push the Middle East crisis to a similar level as the Ukraine war.
You make a very worrying point Anders.
I just don’t understand why the west can’t understand Russia won’t stop its territorial march unless it is decisively defeated in Ukraine.
Because the West is still hugely influenced by soft Russian propaganda talking points like "peace negotiations". There will be no negotiations unless Ukraine recovers their territories, Russia will either win all of Ukraine or lose all of it.
I blame the West for undermining the Ukrainian offensive. May nobody ever need allies such as the EU
@@Rtg5637
@@NoX-512 Spotted Ukraine zombie fan with low IQ and incapable of having an argument of any kind.
I will blame Indians posing as Israelis like @@Rtg5637
Importtant points. Thanks.
Altid en god rapport fra dig. Tak!
The stakes are high in Ukraine, we must act accordingly.
Stakes are higher for Ukraine itself and it needs to show that it can win to receive more support.
@chananmoshe5367 You seem to think a bit like softist, judging by your barrage of replies. I wonder which are your sources of what's actualy happening on ground in Ukraine. Because, despite some grave errors, they're giving it all they got for most part. You seem to be misled, or haven't looked what's actually going on and what AFU are up agaimst. I suggest you listen to what people currently - or recently - in Ukraine ays. If after all what's happened you can say this, you would be better talking to people on the ground. I suggest you go trpugh playlist of Silicon Curtain and take in what the guests are saying. Only way to know is from the first sources - despite delay of information and fog of war opsec. Ukraine keeps pushing back, despite being outmatched.
@@Rtg5637 nah that just isnt the case at all, that is a Kremlin talking point.
Then go there and do something? Or what is your proposal of "acting"? Go and fight the war. Or are you just a clown keyboard warrior?
@@Rtg5637 But they can't win? Are you really that stupid? They gave it all they had in the spring offensive which ended up as a total failure, laughable.
Anders, I really appreciate and admire your work. One surprising aspect I have not seen discussed is the connection between the attacks by Hamas and Russia's stalemated position in Ukraine. Is it a coincidence that Iran very likely triggered an attack by Hamas in Israel at just the right time to pull attention and resources away from Russia's stalement? Very unlikely, given the current alignment of Russian interests and Iranian interests in dividing and distracting the US and NATO from the war in Ukraine. Comments?
My heart is bleeding, truly...
Thank you for highlighting this!
Additionally, there is reason to believe Europe has a conflictual future with the Muslim Brotherhood, which makes their current clash with Israel indirectly relevant to Europe.
Thanks Anders. Lucid and insightful as always.
Thanks
so insightful, so eye opening, so right.
If only danish TV would be everywhere...
Ukraine is ultimately more important for the cause of democracy and human rights.
This has nothing to do with democracy. It's about selfinterest and geopolitics. Israel is the perfect example how human rights and international law is absolutely irrelevant if the US deems it so.
@@Emanon...It is about democracy and freedom for the Ukrainians.
Russia is not just killing and stealing land, but all the Ukrainians that get stuck under Russian occupation will lose their democratic freedom.
If Russia wins it will be emboldened to take more from its other neighbors.
Its important to get all of Russia's neighbours into the EU or Nato so they can be protected.
Democracy and human rights? Never heard of them. Let's have lunch- you can tell me all about it.
@@tatianalyulkin410 Outside of Russia where you live, you can actually speak your own mind, its insane.
Also there are international human rights laws and governments actually follow them... I know this must be mind blowing
You know voting, its real. Like realy real. Not like Russias theatre democracy, but like 'your vote can actually make a difference.
Anyway, keep trolling to keep your master happy, but secretly you should plan your escape. This is probably all very overwhelming.
@@Emanon... Are you going to tell us next how much your masters in Moscow respect human rights and international law?
As an American, I think the media attention on Ukraine is a problem in a way. People keep asking why there isn’t progress.
They need to shut up and let Ukraine’s armed forces do its job, let the Pentagon do its job in supporting Ukraine, and let congress fund it.
Excessive attention is turning Ukraine from a bipartisan issue to a wedge issue.
The Congress you see gets nothing done. Quiet Congress gets things done all the time.
Tak for dine gode videoer og analyser. Der er gode pointer her, som jeg vil tage med i mit forløb om IP
Fortunately in Europe the focus of politicians are still mainly on Ukraine, despite many journalists switched to Israel. Germany announced an aid which last until 2032 and the EU started membership program. Such long term decision matter more than the short term attention of media.
These things you mention are nice but not enough. Europe still assumes that the USA will keep playing the leading role in helping Ukraine. I hope it will, but that is a very risky assumption for you Europeans to make.
@@direwolf409 Europe pay meanwhile twice as much for Ukraine than the USA. But it is pretty stupid if the USA think fighting against the Russian / Iranian alliance matters only Europe.
I’ve had this feeling, but didn’t articulate it clearly. Now you’ve done it for me. Thanks!
Very useful perspective - thanks!
This happened when it did for many reasons. Not least is Russia trying to inspire proxies to do exactly what has happenned - divert attention from Ukraine
thx, i am v dissapointed at the total lack of coverage of ukr, am scouring everwheere for updates (bar those artifial voices vids that drives me nuts)
With Russia openly challenging the Western-led international order, Ukraine has become a frontline in a new Cold War. Losing focus or diverting resources from this long-term existential struggle due to short-term crises like Gaza would be a major strategic mistake.
Go cry in your bunker /spit
I totally agree. I've been honestly feeling a bit sick regarding how things have been going in Ukraine and in the US political scene, in the last few weeks
Wow, only weeks! You're tougher than I am.
Thank you for clearing this up!
Very well put, you could tell the journalists that Call you for comments on the Israel Gaza situation, that they could copy what you just Said in this video, in their article. The way you distinguish between the Gaza conflict and the ukraine war, is spot on
In which of the two places is ww3 more likely to break out?
The best outcome for Ukraine would be if the loss of attention would lead to the realization that the war is lost, and that the best they can do is negotiate a solution on whichever terms that Russia will present to them. The best outcome for Europe would be to finally wake up to the reality that being vassals under the stumbling US empire, is not beneficial to Europe.
being a slave of Russia good, the best
but an ally of the US baaad.
😂 What's next?
Europe slave of Russia? I can't see it.
Everything's going according to the plan, Ivan?
How is rubel to yuan exchange rate ? 🤔. Russia vassal of China ?
If you say so Ruski.
Thanks for speaking out, as always!
Thank you ❤
Regarding Ukraine attention, I could consume more updates from you, Anders! Ser frem til flere videoer 😊.
This is what concerned me the most about the current situation from the start. There is the thing that unlike the war in Ukraine there aren't clear good guy and bad guys, instead, like in most wars, there are different shades of grey with both sides unfortunately committing war crimes en masse. So I don't think we should be really spending significant resources to support Israel, especially since it can mostly defend itself. But the fact that this support is at the expense of Ukraine makes it immeasurably worse. I see helping Ukraine win as one of the most vital civilizational tasks we have at the moment, comparable to something like solving climate change, and the fact that we are now on track to let Ukraine lose is very painful.
Israel definitely can defend itself and doesn't face any credible existential threat no matter how it hypes it up. Hamas literally zero ability for that goal. The only existential threat to Israel is Israel. The nation state isn't under threat, their social economic system is, they really like their racism, power and $$$, for some losing that is considered "Existential". Example, for Bibi, this war is "Existential" as once he leaves, he is going to prison.
UN secretary general António Guterres called it like it is, this didn't happen in a vacuum. There are no "Good guys" only victims. It's not grey, it's black.
I agree ! Thank you
America is fed up with being dragged into endless costly wars 😮
Some of the very best analysis out there. Excellent as always, sir. Thank you. Share, people, share!! Slava Ukraini !
For this reason I’ve stopped watching and clicking on anything about Israel-Hamas.
Same here
Well I guess they will have to stop the war then.
@@Tom_Quixote There will always be wars in the Middle East and the muslim countries, but if we in the West care less about it, there will be less focus on it. We have the money and the power.
Ty for the updates
Thanks for another great assessment
This man is an international treasure.
Ret godt beskrevet. Tak
Anders, thank you for your sober analyses. They're extremely valuable.
Thank you Sir for shaing this info, I know I can always rely on you for credible, accurate information.
Thank you bringing this to our attention.
The only thing that moves faster than the speed of light is the attention of the press. Calling them fickle would be a hilarious understatement.
I'd argue that to a degree the motives of the russia and hamas (Iran) are the same - they both want the end of the west, although Iran openly want the end of all non-shia muslims so arguably they have an even more ambitious goal. Either way, both want utter and complete world domination.
Don’t forget China. Their ambitions has been the same for at least 50 years and we, the west, has helped them get rich enough to be a serious threat.
@@NoX-512 Oh indeed! Didn't mention them as this was focusing on Israel/Ukraine, but yes, absolutely. We have nobody but ourselves to blame for that one though - our greed and endless demands for 'cheap' have fueled that situation. One possible saving grace is that they do actually need our money to keep the machine rolling along so they have a difficult path to tread or they risk killing the golden goose.
Well done - this needed to be said.
Reading my mind! Thanks for speaking out on the subject.
Thank you for pointing out Russia is existential threat. It seems there is a western desire to be getting back to business with Russia though perhaps it is doubt about what could happen with a Russian collapse rather than back to business.
You're absolutely right- the Blake Association is a threat to the very existence of Russia. And Ukraine. And the States. And the rest of the world actually.
Who is Russia a threat to?! You are so poisoned with lies that you can't even think rationally? Will Russia conquer the entire galaxy?
Russia is not going to be collapsed by the West. Even N Korea hasn't collapsed, neither did Cuba not Iran. And these countries were in a much worse starting position and with few resources.
There is a whole class of politicians and businessmen in the EU and Russia that did very well out of Putin's Russia, thank you very much, and this whole Ukraine thing has derailed the entire gravy train. They want the train back on the rails and normal service resumed ASAP, f@ck democracy or the rules based order or whatever you want to call it. Collapsing Russia is like blowing up the derailed train to them. They are not giving up their steady Russian earner that easily. That is why there is a hard core of opposition to helping Ukraine in the US and in Europe.
West is deeply horrified of Russian collapse and it's content with status quo.
I'm not an expert like you, and I think you make strong (and most probably) correct points, but as an Israeli I'd like to add my perspective:
1. We support and sympathize with Ukraine . We live with an existential fear, but they are (bravely!) facing one of our collective nightmares. Ukrainians are so brave and inspiring! It is most unfortunate and an absolute shame that Putin is enjoying this new war.
2. Of course Hamas cannot kill us all, but if Iran, with the backing of China and yes, Russia, attacks us from multiple fronts.. well, we're not as big and strong as Ukraine, and the repercussions will be felt in the west, also risking WW3.
3. Our military has a tenuous understanding with the Russian military on our border (Syria). It is reasonable to conclude that this understanding is drawing its last breaths. Russia is arming Iran, which is arming Hezbollah/Hamas and other proxies, to the teeth. They are delivering strategic weapons via Russian controlled airfields. This is an extremely explosive situation.
4. Throughout the "cold" war, Israel has been in many hot wars with the anti-western axis, mostly pan-Arabic forces backed by the USSR, now Islamists backed by Russia. This is an extension of this ongoing post WW2 era. Despotic forces trying to prove that democracies are weak and ineffectual. Many Ukrainians, first and foremost Zelenskyy (how I wish he could lead Israel and the whole West!) clearly see this. How I wish we were stronger, and not a tiny nation, so we could help them.
5. The media is mostly trash, it's a game for them. They take the Western world for granted, not realizing or caring that we have to fight for it.
6. I really wish you could give us a little hope :( but realistically a quagmire is better than pogroms. We don't get to choose between ice cream and chocolate. And we still have the northern front against the Iranian proxies (and forces) there.
7. Maybe less Iranian weapons will end up in Russian hands? Hopefully Ukraine will see a silver lining here... In the end, we both HAVE to win this war against tyranny.
8. Let's hope for better days for all!
Yes Anders said nothing about Iran which is actually what we are worried about.
The US is itching to get into Iran to destroy their nuclear progress.
Fantastic summary of the situation. The US isn’t there to fight Hamas, as Israel can handle them easily. And Israel could take Hezbollah fairly easily too. Israel could probably hold off any 2-3 of its neighbors at a time if necessary, although it would be very costly. Holding off Hamas AND Hezbollah AND Syria AND Iran AND whomever else, with Ruzzian/Chinese support, would be really tough, and even if Israel won (with or without having to use nukes), it would be in a very bad and vulnerable position. Better for the US to just stop it from escalating to that level now. Because while Iran is a formidable foe for Israel, it’s a speed bump for the US.
At the end of the day, people need to realize that both Israel and Ukraine are fighting on the side of the Western-led world order that has created unparalleled prosperity and peace (relative to the past) since WWII. Ruzzia, Hamas, China, Iran, North Korea, and several others are fighting against the West to destroy that order and destroy us, even if we haven’t all realized it yet. Countries like India and Brazil are basically neutral, but they’ll probably have to pick a side eventually (and no, BRICS doesn’t make them Ruzzia/China allies). Neutrality is not an option.
A nitpick, but: I know the prototypical European pogrom is an attack against Jews, and so that's a word that comes to mind. But a pogrom is specifically when the majority gangs up on a minority group living among them, with the tacit support of the authorities. This wasn't the case with the Hamas massacres. Those were regular old terrorist attacks. For pogroms in Israel, you have to look at radical settlers in the West Bank attacking Palestinians.
Odd you seem concerned about pogroms in Ukraine but make no mention of the continuing and ongoing pogroms against Palestinian people
Anders says he's not taking sides, but I think the "quagmire" and "short-term" language is telling. His account sounds like a dismissive European "no military solution" expression that we've heard since ever. Well sometimes there is no political solution. Hamas and Iran are anti-Western to the core, and they pose a deep threat to Israel and the US. The European threat from Russia is more urgent for Europe, but war in Israel is no less urgent than the one in Ukraine from an overall Western IMO.
The media's attention span is shorter than a 1 week old toddler's.
Absolutely right 😢
Another excellent video. Thank you, Anders 👍👍👍