Thanks dude, I had a support ap senna going 0/6 in lane, healing less that the Alistar passive, and dealing less damage than a Yuumi autoattack my life objective is to find the dude that invented this shit and play Blitzcrank ADC with him or some shit like that so he finds out what it's like to be with a braindamaged person near him. 10/10 would queue again
hey i0ki, love your vids. could you try this senna build that keeps the same playstyle from pre-rework senna and tell me what you think? bloodsong -> black cleaver -> rfc -> mejai's fleet footwork + POM + alacrity + cut down (inspiration) biscuits + jack of all trades the idea is to spam longswords early to maintain her status as a lane bully, finish BC while buying dark seal along the way, then buy zeal for full JoaT bonuses. it's extraordinarily gold efficient. it may not be as good as full enchanter senna, but she makes use of all stats and it's a lot closer to what most people actually mained her for, which is a hyper-scaling lane bully AD powerhouse support.
i0ki quick question pls. Isnt it better to go presence of mind, legend haste instead of the resolve tree? I get that the extra healing and shielding is great for her current build, but i find it hard to trade a ton of mana and good haste for it
Have you tried rushing imperial mandate? Easy to proc with Q and bunch of burst.. Im just a noob but I go mandate into echo, then ardent/spell ardent (forget the name) depending on my team comp
I just saw another build to keep playing a sort of AD Senna. You rush Black Cleaver, then RFC, then you can go Mejia´s or Mandate. After that, you just top it with Navori/Runan´s. RUNES, use Fleet footwork as usual and pair it with Jack of all trades. What do you think about that?
Honestly I think Opportunity > BC > Rapidfire is still the best way to go. Does a boat load of damage and with the buff to AD scaling on the heal you still do some pretty solid heals. It feels really bad having 100+ stacks and doing no damage to anyone when you can just 3shot enemy carry
Honestly they need to rework her passive too. Having stacks scale AD and Crit when her ratios are higher as AP is just dumb. Her stacks should scale AP and Heal/Shield% like enchanter items have on them.
Exactly how I feel. Sure she’s better but boring af to play. Miss Senna already and I’m switching roles now because I don’t wanna play support without old Senna.
I truly think her best build is something like soraka's. Echoes forces you to AA too much to get value, and black cleaver I would only choose it against a heavy tank team. I think moonstone 1st it's better, you can get a lot of value with multi-healing with q without needing to AA the enemies. And your ult would get soo huge if u shield several team members on a team fight. After moonstone, redemption to shield and heal from afar. And it procs moonstone tooif used closer. As 3rd item, dawncore, it makes your heal and shields even huger. Lastly something with AP would be great, as a zhonya if u can afford it, tx to the higher scaling.
i agree with this, after trying her out i've noticed that my healing is significantly better going moonstone first over helia, the only time i'd go over helia is if i know the enemy support is braindead and would allow me to AA off of them, i tried helia several times against typical enchanters (soraka, lulu, and even a xerath, ez lane, and helia was just underperforming because i couldnt AA to get the healing proc off) my build is usually moonstone into redeption and dawncore, last 1 is a flex, surprisingly enough i even tried lichbane and it was worth it, the damage to towers were insane.
Lol if you could get a kill with your ult and Echoes, how funny would it be to build Statikk Shiv and have the lightning go off after the kill? I’m sure that would be so bad but funny😂
In my opinion, they should rework her scales to AP, and the passive should be a bonus healing scale. Playing as Senna Healer is much more fun and less strong than Senna Carry.
i literally just played against this build , i was playing mid lane azir , it was our mid , jg and top vs their botlane , tell me why 1 senna Q and R helped a 0/11 jax to survive 3 turret shots , a fed teemo hitting him and a fed azir hitting him , WHY AND HOW AND WHEN , honestly cant wait for the nerfs as a mid laner!!
great for high elo. But what made her special for me is she was perfect for low elo. with mixed runes into damage and survivability, I could play a strong adc carry as support without anyone whining too much. If my adc is good I can support them, if my adc sucks I could support the jg or others. If our adc was really bad, I could sell my supp item and play adc, farm lanes etc. This is the only way to play supp consistently in low elo. I don't play the other lanes because the other lanes are completely reliant on their matchups and pure luck of the draw. I don't have to worry about farming to be good. Riot ruined this. There are other champs but not as much fun.
idky ppl complain you can't 1v9 with senna when you are literally the best champion in the game to ever exist 2+ hours in the game and can kill every single other champ 🤷♀
For me, in very low elo, healing doesn’t win games. My teammates have little macro or mechanics… fight at every chance… feed before I can get items that would heal enough.. nope, damage supps all the way! Zyra and Brand it’ll have to be for me.
Saying Senna is 25% less dps is not really accurate. Senna has like ~15% less dps on average, more if it gets very lategame. And early game it's almost the same, since nerf is on soul stacks and ias on lvls.
I know Ima get hate for this but I feel like this makes no sense I'm sorry. Like she nearly heals as much as a soraka with no tradeoff. The range on the heal is insane, can heal multiple ppl, can self heal. has great movements, has a reliable root and can still do quite a lot of dmg. I don't think this is balanced at all. Nice vid as always ioki.
i literally just played against this build , i was playing mid lane azir , it was our mid , jg and top vs their botlane , tell me why 1 senna Q and R helped a 0/11 jax to survive 3 turret shots , a fed teemo hitting him and a fed azir hitting him , WHY AND HOW AND WHEN , honestly cant wait for the nerfs as a mid laner!!
Sweaty high elo tryhard is my fav
Need it so I don’t leave my favorite role and champ
20:00. "What am I watching?"
It's the Clone Wars, bro! 😂😂😂😂😂
at about 15 minutes it becomes increasingly harder to believe this is a high elo game XD "what are they doing" is right XD
love the high elo commentaries. So much fun to watch and learn
5:20 MORE SENNA, MORE SENNA, MORE SENNA!!!
senna is now ana from overwatch
high elo is where its at.
“Time to climb” video but man died 2x on bad notes
You get a lot of different stats with support items, I bet Jack of all trades would go nuts on Senna now.
These just keep getting better! Thank you GSA 🙏🏻
Now, if only Riot could rework high-elo players…
The more sweaty, the more better.
Thanks dude, I had a support ap senna going 0/6 in lane, healing less that the Alistar passive, and dealing less damage than a Yuumi autoattack my life objective is to find the dude that invented this shit and play Blitzcrank ADC with him or some shit like that so he finds out what it's like to be with a braindamaged person near him. 10/10 would queue again
hey i0ki, love your vids. could you try this senna build that keeps the same playstyle from pre-rework senna and tell me what you think?
bloodsong -> black cleaver -> rfc -> mejai's
fleet footwork + POM + alacrity + cut down
(inspiration) biscuits + jack of all trades
the idea is to spam longswords early to maintain her status as a lane bully, finish BC while buying dark seal along the way, then buy zeal for full JoaT bonuses. it's extraordinarily gold efficient. it may not be as good as full enchanter senna, but she makes use of all stats and it's a lot closer to what most people actually mained her for, which is a hyper-scaling lane bully AD powerhouse support.
I wouldn't be mad at a Quinn Support video
Only takes 30 seconds with IOki for a man to feel refreshed?
i0ki quick question pls. Isnt it better to go presence of mind, legend haste instead of the resolve tree? I get that the extra healing and shielding is great for her current build, but i find it hard to trade a ton of mana and good haste for it
I'd like to see more support Senna so I can enjoy it vicariously through you
i'm diamond on brazilian server and your senna videos are helping me to understand the new build. you think black cleaver is really worth now?
I love your Senna content, please do more
Can you call this enchanter Senna instead? I keep getting baited hoping for a full ap Senna build.
Have you tried rushing imperial mandate? Easy to proc with Q and bunch of burst.. Im just a noob but I go mandate into echo, then ardent/spell ardent (forget the name) depending on my team comp
I just saw another build to keep playing a sort of AD Senna. You rush Black Cleaver, then RFC, then you can go Mejia´s or Mandate. After that, you just top it with Navori/Runan´s.
RUNES, use Fleet footwork as usual and pair it with Jack of all trades. What do you think about that?
would shurelias be a good item? her E + the item active could be pretty nuts if you have a diving/rush comp?
Ioki hot and sweaty is a dream come true!
nice video ! i'm such a big fan of ap senna too
Honestly I think Opportunity > BC > Rapidfire is still the best way to go. Does a boat load of damage and with the buff to AD scaling on the heal you still do some pretty solid heals. It feels really bad having 100+ stacks and doing no damage to anyone when you can just 3shot enemy carry
Honestly they need to rework her passive too. Having stacks scale AD and Crit when her ratios are higher as AP is just dumb.
Her stacks should scale AP and Heal/Shield% like enchanter items have on them.
Im loving it playing new senna i tend to build echo moonstone and 3rd item ardent or dawncore
tbh ap senna helped me climb from e4 to e1 50 lp , but i really want damage senna back tbh , this is really fun also but senna doesnt feel the same
Exactly how I feel. Sure she’s better but boring af to play. Miss Senna already and I’m switching roles now because I don’t wanna play support without old Senna.
Sena is the new soraca
Ioki, I tried Lich Bane as last item, it hits extremely hard
Yo Ioki have you tried Guardian and Glacial on Senna I know aery is better overall but for some kill lanes I tried it and its pretty safe
I truly think her best build is something like soraka's. Echoes forces you to AA too much to get value, and black cleaver I would only choose it against a heavy tank team.
I think moonstone 1st it's better, you can get a lot of value with multi-healing with q without needing to AA the enemies. And your ult would get soo huge if u shield several team members on a team fight. After moonstone, redemption to shield and heal from afar. And it procs moonstone tooif used closer. As 3rd item, dawncore, it makes your heal and shields even huger. Lastly something with AP would be great, as a zhonya if u can afford it, tx to the higher scaling.
i agree with this, after trying her out i've noticed that my healing is significantly better going moonstone first over helia, the only time i'd go over helia is if i know the enemy support is braindead and would allow me to AA off of them, i tried helia several times against typical enchanters (soraka, lulu, and even a xerath, ez lane, and helia was just underperforming because i couldnt AA to get the healing proc off)
my build is usually moonstone into redeption and dawncore, last 1 is a flex, surprisingly enough i even tried lichbane and it was worth it, the damage to towers were insane.
Lol if you could get a kill with your ult and Echoes, how funny would it be to build Statikk Shiv and have the lightning go off after the kill? I’m sure that would be so bad but funny😂
In my opinion, they should rework her scales to AP, and the passive should be a bonus healing scale. Playing as Senna Healer is much more fun and less strong than Senna Carry.
Is there a build to keep damage up without giving up too much utility?
Hola, muy buen video has intentado con el item: Renovación de piedra lunar o Moon Stone?
i wanna play senna after this video.
Can we not call enchanter items AP? Ty
ioki you should add spirit vasage
that would complete the build
I kinda want to see a aatrox support video I’ve been dying to play him. But ima support main lol
i literally just played against this build , i was playing mid lane azir , it was our mid , jg and top vs their botlane , tell me why 1 senna Q and R helped a 0/11 jax to survive 3 turret shots , a fed teemo hitting him and a fed azir hitting him , WHY AND HOW AND WHEN , honestly cant wait for the nerfs as a mid laner!!
Is ap burn Senna any good?
great for high elo. But what made her special for me is she was perfect for low elo. with mixed runes into damage and survivability, I could play a strong adc carry as support without anyone whining too much. If my adc is good I can support them, if my adc sucks I could support the jg or others. If our adc was really bad, I could sell my supp item and play adc, farm lanes etc.
This is the only way to play supp consistently in low elo. I don't play the other lanes because the other lanes are completely reliant on their matchups and pure luck of the draw. I don't have to worry about farming to be good. Riot ruined this.
There are other champs but not as much fun.
How good is lichbain on Senna?
The gsa doesn't care if it's ad ap whatever always delivering
idky ppl complain you can't 1v9 with senna when you are literally the best champion in the game to ever exist 2+ hours in the game and can kill every single other champ 🤷♀
is this your final build with ap senna?
Wait is that live our is it still on pbe?
6:04 Fundamentos!!
Oh? I actually really like Senna's kit, but hated her old playstyle. I guess its time to give her another try!
Lets go new video!
Is it first time first comment ?
For me, in very low elo, healing doesn’t win games. My teammates have little macro or mechanics… fight at every chance… feed before I can get items that would heal enough.. nope, damage supps all the way! Zyra and Brand it’ll have to be for me.
Lich Bane??
i prefer mandate, moonstone and dawncore
2:18
that's what SHE said :D :D
New senna playstyle is so boring though. Wish they didn’t gut her damage and just adjusted her AP scaling so you could go either route.
Isn't the souls stacking now pointless? If you play like an enchanter why stacking ad and crit. Why not rework it as well
Last Item infinite Edge with Passiv 100% Crit Heal and DEMAGE !!
Fresh from the oven ive never been this early lmao
Saying Senna is 25% less dps is not really accurate. Senna has like ~15% less dps on average, more if it gets very lategame. And early game it's almost the same, since nerf is on soul stacks and ias on lvls.
At level 12 it’s about 18% less dps with items and 19% without items
@@jeoffbenzos4959 depends on souls, more souls you compare bigger the nerf, but usually you don't have a lot souls at lvl 12 yet
Definitely prefer high elo play. Not a fan of surfing in general. I want to see high skill vs high skill! Makes it hard to watch the LCS. XD
what is your elo never seen it but you keep saying high elo all the time? :)
200 LP Masters currently
@@i0kiVids nice love the senna videos
I know Ima get hate for this but I feel like this makes no sense I'm sorry. Like she nearly heals as much as a soraka with no tradeoff. The range on the heal is insane, can heal multiple ppl, can self heal. has great movements, has a reliable root and can still do quite a lot of dmg. I don't think this is balanced at all. Nice vid as always ioki.
That's why we have to abuse it before nerfs
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i suck ass at enchanter senna, sadboys
İ played Senna lethality its still okey, better than this build …
No feeling about nerf
I disagree
Senna sucks now
i literally just played against this build , i was playing mid lane azir , it was our mid , jg and top vs their botlane , tell me why 1 senna Q and R helped a 0/11 jax to survive 3 turret shots , a fed teemo hitting him and a fed azir hitting him , WHY AND HOW AND WHEN , honestly cant wait for the nerfs as a mid laner!!