Let's spam a build I cooked, so GSA sees it and gives it a try( I currently am sitting on 75% WR over 20 games in EUW): First twist: you go phase rush rune(I did some math and with q-spell healing buffs, you don't actually need fleet this much, especially since they nerfed it) and with the amount of slow there is in the game and in botlane+jungle, phase rush is beyond broken. I like to add gathering storm to it, as riot is making games longer and longer(other runes I usually manaflow, celerity and POM and cut down, since your passive hits usually when target is still relatively high HP). Second twist: you are building Eclipse, into STRIDEBREAKER into Black cleaver. You may say "why would you go close range active item on Senna? Don't you know how to position?". Well, I sometimes don't, but even perfectly positioning, with all the mobility champions have nowadays people reach you anyway, except if you really are not in the fight. The reasoning of the build path is that you first grab a ton of AD+mix of defense/offense, plus how eclipse works, it helps you to tempo for your phase rush(q-auto is instant, then you hit your third auto and fly away). Then you go stride, which is absolutely unfair item, since you get movespeed every time you hurt someone AND if you get jumped on, you just press active and they will never get to you again, while being slowed, if followed by your q-spell, with the amount of AD you have by 2 items completion, it's practically hard cc and your team can punish very severely every failed attempt of killing you(which normally should happen often, since you are an important target, but very slippery and quite lanky with this build). You top this up with cleaver or something situational and by 30 minutes you achieve 400-500 AD, tons of HP and MS. P.S. For fun, you can go IE forth and just obliterate every living thing. Or, following the build logic, experimental hexplate, I don't think I need to explain why. P.P.S. Nearly forgot third twist: you go sleigh as your support item, I found it the most synergistic with the rest of the build.
Prediction: Riot will nerf this item combo for her within weeks. Because they hate fun carry champions unless they fit their vision for what that character should be.
This is probably really bad, but after the lethal tempo removal Senna is the only champ I like playing rageblade on. She can build all the on-hit items without capping out on attack speed. I also just have a general problem where no-one ever builds anti-tank in my games so I like being able to fill that role.
@@i0kiVids I literally just saw 10 minutes after posting lol. Although it no longer breaks the attack speed cap so there’s still that. I’m excited that Riot finally acknowledged a problem I’ve complained about for years: Damage (particularly burst) was/is too high. Idk if these changes will fix it, but I sure would like to see the game slow down and fights take longer.
What about the grasp cleaver build? I hope you will try it and put here, I will like to hear your opinion on it. I heard it will be good with the new patch because the gelames will be longer
Even if riot make senna enchanter only i will always play full attack damage/speed Senna.Its my love. Ioki plz make a video with 3rd adc/assasin or bruisier item
25:20 was. awesome. Was hoping you'd flash, then I felt a little bummed out when you didn't... Then the W hit. It's like a short movie that's rich in emotion and story. 10/10
@@andrewthompson5748 Is jack of all trades good? I’ve never used it and can’t remember the effect. But my guess on Approach velocity is it helps guarantee a soul pull if the enemy is kiting away. Approach is also a skill check of sorts. I’ve won fights I shouldn’t have due to opponents deciding to try and run/kite instead of just fighting and me getting several free autos. This is more true for Ashe but I thought Senna autos also slowed/stole movement speed.
I think IE is a good 3rd item here instead of EoH. Not sure exactly what you would want 4th & 5th. ER for mana maybe? A sheen item? Ioki is going to go the mathematically best build, but you could def make full AD work with the BC PD as the core
I've been thinking about this a lot lately. I've normally either went HOB or PTA, but building Grasp on Senna would be almost the same reason why Grasp is ran on Smolder right now (so glad people finally realized that grasp is good on him and that his Q easily procs it. Took everyone long enough since I've realized this almost directly from the beginning). She would scale her hp, get some damage and sustain, and due to her Q proccing on-hits (I'm not sure if it procs grasp like smolder Q) I think it procs grasp? I know that her AA into her specialized AA does, and you almost always do that when trading with her. I don't know how Grasp would be for an enchanter Senna though but more so for solo lane Senna or Carry Senna. Edit: I have tried to synergize Cleaver with Titanic but I'm still unsure how well it is on Senna as Titanic as her first item actually feels super weak, and if you solo lane with her (which I always do) then she really wants some kind of waveclear ASAP or as a second item).
Grasp kicks ass now that font procs for you too. GRASP IS A++, go font/conditioning/hf buff, not the 5%(but this is preference) then either POM+alacrity or mana flow +celerity or absolute focus
@@giorgostrim3709 I was using first strike w boots, biscuit, jack + treasure hunter, ghost poro. Core items cleaver, ardent, then if i need to fight IE+Collecter ect, or if I need to heal more then just more support item.
Be a man! go Ruunans for 3s cooldown speed drops Now you're getting on CrazyJim Level, #1 mastery champion. No serious, RUNANS + BC has always been absurd Runnans + Titanic was the big build for a while when Titanic did huge splash cuz you could clear 3 waves of supers while sneezing: 3x the attacks, 3x exploding, lol. Now all the aoe is teeny, so we back to Runans and BC like the first build with Frozen Mallet. One of the SICKEST COMBOS ON ANY CHAMPION IS: Spear of Sojin and navori quickblades because it results in instant cooldowns
This game has lots of funny + kickass moments, so be sure to watch the whole thing! See y'all tomorrow for a big ole' patch!
That was so smooth to watch, especially after you picked up PD! I don’t think you dropped any autos after getting it
Did you see how much unspent gold you had at the end?
@@daithomas1430 WE RICH BABY
Let's spam a build I cooked, so GSA sees it and gives it a try( I currently am sitting on 75% WR over 20 games in EUW):
First twist: you go phase rush rune(I did some math and with q-spell healing buffs, you don't actually need fleet this much, especially since they nerfed it) and with the amount of slow there is in the game and in botlane+jungle, phase rush is beyond broken. I like to add gathering storm to it, as riot is making games longer and longer(other runes I usually manaflow, celerity and POM and cut down, since your passive hits usually when target is still relatively high HP).
Second twist: you are building Eclipse, into STRIDEBREAKER into Black cleaver.
You may say "why would you go close range active item on Senna? Don't you know how to position?". Well, I sometimes don't, but even perfectly positioning, with all the mobility champions have nowadays people reach you anyway, except if you really are not in the fight.
The reasoning of the build path is that you first grab a ton of AD+mix of defense/offense, plus how eclipse works, it helps you to tempo for your phase rush(q-auto is instant, then you hit your third auto and fly away).
Then you go stride, which is absolutely unfair item, since you get movespeed every time you hurt someone AND if you get jumped on, you just press active and they will never get to you again, while being slowed, if followed by your q-spell, with the amount of AD you have by 2 items completion, it's practically hard cc and your team can punish very severely every failed attempt of killing you(which normally should happen often, since you are an important target, but very slippery and quite lanky with this build). You top this up with cleaver or something situational and by 30 minutes you achieve 400-500 AD, tons of HP and MS.
P.S. For fun, you can go IE forth and just obliterate every living thing. Or, following the build logic, experimental hexplate, I don't think I need to explain why.
P.P.S. Nearly forgot third twist: you go sleigh as your support item, I found it the most synergistic with the rest of the build.
Man I’d love to see him try this!
@@TheCalebMoline update: riot just nerfed ALL used items(literally, each and every item used in the build XD):C
They knew😧
What i despise most about the changes is that Senna ult now feels more like a Soraka ult than a Lux ult.
Should be both.
Prediction: Riot will nerf this item combo for her within weeks. Because they hate fun carry champions unless they fit their vision for what that character should be.
That doesn't make sense, unless Riot thinks Swain, Seraphine, Brand, Hwei, and Ziggs are the epitome of bot lane carry.
and they'll do it by nerfin senna's base mov speed to 305
The build isnt that good, guarantee they wont nerf it before nerfing the full support build first
What? If the character doesnt fit its champion identity then of course they will change it.
Thanks for the new build idea Ioki. To your point, it feels incredibly unsatisfying to play enchanter Senna (for me). Please Riot, revert our champ!
One does not simply "go down on Illaoi".🤣
I mean, I see what they're trying to do, but The risk reward for senna players is high high risk low low reward
This is probably really bad, but after the lethal tempo removal Senna is the only champ I like playing rageblade on. She can build all the on-hit items without capping out on attack speed. I also just have a general problem where no-one ever builds anti-tank in my games so I like being able to fill that role.
I've got some CRAZY news for you bro -- Lethal Tempo is back in the game as of today.
@@i0kiVids I literally just saw 10 minutes after posting lol. Although it no longer breaks the attack speed cap so there’s still that. I’m excited that Riot finally acknowledged a problem I’ve complained about for years: Damage (particularly burst) was/is too high. Idk if these changes will fix it, but I sure would like to see the game slow down and fights take longer.
Pd is low key very strong and people dont realize it usually. Its why i play garen cause zoomies
Yes! Welcome back full carry Sennoki!💪🏻
Could you use jack of all trades with this build???
What about the grasp cleaver build? I hope you will try it and put here, I will like to hear your opinion on it. I heard it will be good with the new patch because the gelames will be longer
I'm hoping the item changes don't impact senna to much.
I think it will buff her tbh, less burst and slower fights in the game is always good.
Isnt this also compatible with the jack of all trades rune?
Jack of all Trades is good ON ALMOST EVERY CHAMPION because even if it hits 5, you're getting 1.5x the value of singular CDR or AF runes
Even if riot make senna enchanter only i will always play full attack damage/speed Senna.Its my love. Ioki plz make a video with 3rd adc/assasin or bruisier item
25:20 was. awesome. Was hoping you'd flash, then I felt a little bummed out when you didn't... Then the W hit. It's like a short movie that's rich in emotion and story. 10/10
I try to keep hitting them but if my adc ain't gonna hit them when I'm getting focused I wanna try to play safe
Bro 5k gold at the end lmao
Is there a reason you're going approach velocity over jack? Just curious
That was my question, too 🤔
@@andrewthompson5748 Is jack of all trades good? I’ve never used it and can’t remember the effect. But my guess on Approach velocity is it helps guarantee a soul pull if the enemy is kiting away. Approach is also a skill check of sorts. I’ve won fights I shouldn’t have due to opponents deciding to try and run/kite instead of just fighting and me getting several free autos. This is more true for Ashe but I thought Senna autos also slowed/stole movement speed.
i just do a kindred build i go kraken then burst dmg item then edge
I had to quit the vid when you went echoes, if it aint full AD, it aint for me
I think IE is a good 3rd item here instead of EoH. Not sure exactly what you would want 4th & 5th. ER for mana maybe? A sheen item? Ioki is going to go the mathematically best build, but you could def make full AD work with the BC PD as the core
views on grasp senna? been enjoying that more than any other rune set up
I've been thinking about this a lot lately. I've normally either went HOB or PTA, but building Grasp on Senna would be almost the same reason why Grasp is ran on Smolder right now (so glad people finally realized that grasp is good on him and that his Q easily procs it. Took everyone long enough since I've realized this almost directly from the beginning).
She would scale her hp, get some damage and sustain, and due to her Q proccing on-hits (I'm not sure if it procs grasp like smolder Q) I think it procs grasp? I know that her AA into her specialized AA does, and you almost always do that when trading with her.
I don't know how Grasp would be for an enchanter Senna though but more so for solo lane Senna or Carry Senna.
Edit: I have tried to synergize Cleaver with Titanic but I'm still unsure how well it is on Senna as Titanic as her first item actually feels super weak, and if you solo lane with her (which I always do) then she really wants some kind of waveclear ASAP or as a second item).
Grasp kicks ass now that font procs for you too. GRASP IS A++, go font/conditioning/hf buff, not the 5%(but this is preference) then either POM+alacrity or mana flow +celerity or absolute focus
22:14 Look i fast I´m bro, 3 seconds later, look i dead I´m bro. Ioki essence
Senna Jack of all trades rune, with black cleaver, zeal, dark seal. Makes this build irrelevant .
That is this build.
@@GlacialScion You are incorrect, check his runes.
@@nuganooch1 Is your contention that Jack of All Trades makes it an entirely different build?
@@GlacialScion There is no Jack of all Trades, or Dark seal here. You are mistaken.
@@nuganooch1 We don't agree on the definition of "build".
I don't think this is the way. I think I got better build.
Whats your build
@@giorgostrim3709 I was using first strike w boots, biscuit, jack + treasure hunter, ghost poro. Core items cleaver, ardent, then if i need to fight IE+Collecter ect, or if I need to heal more then just more support item.
@@giorgostrim3709 and I usually take celestial opposition from sup item, to get some survival
@@giorgostrim3709 nvm IE, they nerf it. I haven't played much new patch but core still works. Maybe just replace IE with botrk
Runes?
Fleet pom alacrity cut down approach velocity biscuits AD atk speed scaling health
I'm sorry dude you play high noon Senna and don't yee-haw I can't like the video, wish I could, but them's the rules.
First!
25:32 GSA
"Look how fast I am."
"Look how dead I am."
Be a man! go Ruunans for 3s cooldown speed drops
Now you're getting on CrazyJim Level, #1 mastery champion.
No serious, RUNANS + BC has always been absurd
Runnans + Titanic was the big build for a while when Titanic did huge splash cuz you could clear 3 waves of supers while sneezing: 3x the attacks, 3x exploding, lol. Now all the aoe is teeny, so we back to Runans and BC like the first build with Frozen Mallet.
One of the SICKEST COMBOS ON ANY CHAMPION IS: Spear of Sojin and navori quickblades because it results in instant cooldowns
Thank you Ioki❤
I love senna and was very turned off by playing her as enchanter(never did). This video gives me hope :)
PD was awesome to play with, once i tried it I couldn't build something else tbh, don't know about this patch tho
I've been going IE>PD>RFC for max crit
"Look how fast I am"
...
"Look how dead I am"
😂
“Look how dead I am!” -Ioki
Sh!s hilarious
is it still viable in 14.19 Patch?
can you do senna mid again?
Just what I needed to relax tonight.