I've been saying it for years, Fury is the best boxer-promoter in the buisness, he sells his own performances while downplaying everyone else's and the casuals have been eating it up for years. Physiologically it's a case of when not if his body gives in. At 6ft7.5, once 400lbs, the savage shots to the head, the drinking, not looking after himself, running for cardio and being on the sniff as recently as this weekend can't be good for his longevity. The look on his and Frank's face as ngannou was decapitated suggests they know Tyson is done.
Ngannou owns Fury's soul. We don't care if he won a shouting match with Ngannou off camera, we saw Ngannou clown his ass on camera. And Fury's bs doesn't fly on anyone with a thinking brain
@@justsayin7937 if Fury really won that fight, we wouldn't have been seeing Ngannou in the ring again & getting paid $20 million. Did you see Fury's face after the fight? For someone who won, Fury seems to be angry & defensive all the time, unlike Ngannou. AJ was chilled as Fuck after his REAL win. What will I say when Fury beats Usyk? Lol you have more faith that Fury has because if a Fury victory was guaranteed, he wouldn't have been ducking Usyk this much
If Francis is 0-2 how did Fury lose? Fury didn't counter Francis one time in that fight. If you think that bs wasn't scripted I bet you think WWE isn't scripted also huh? And you still crazy to say "Ngannou owns Fury's soul". C'mon man, that's just Ludacris. Fury about to be the undisputed HW Champ of the world but Ngannou owns his soul. 😂
If AJ outdoing Fury's common opponents was a one-off. Fair enough. I just feel there's a clear disparity now. Not training for a fight correctly is no excuse. That doesn't affect his clear lack of punching power. Look objectively at Fury's best wins. He bamboozled Wlad in the most boring fight ever. And beats a one-trick-pony who was a protected fighter. Fury's resume just doesn't stack up. Yet you have clowns like Simon Jordan declaring him the best of this era without ever proving it. That's the frustrating part. For me, Fury has always been overrated. I think we will get all the answers once/if Fury faces Usyk. But right now, I put AJ ahead of Fury based upon evidence. After AJ lost to Usyk a second time & his confidence was rock bottom. Absolutely, I would be picking Fury. But a lot has happened since then. AJ has rebuilt, and in his past two performances in particular, he is arguably better than 'old AJ'. If Fury was to face AJ next, I'd be picking AJ 100%. But let's see how Fury gets on with Usyk. Can he do what AJ couldn't? I suspect not. We shall see...
100% I also get angry when people make excuses for fury on the basis that if that was AJ these same people wouldn't make an excuse for him but instead rip him to pieces and I hate double standards like that.
Your not getting it..Most of us annoyed because Furys resume has 3 top 10s on it..And yet the media were saying hes had a better career than AJ..Even though AJ has beaten 10 top tens, More title fights, more title defense etc etc...Theres a thing called Boxrec which lists the rankings and records of all the opponents...And the media has not give credit for AJ resume, yet Fury was being called the best of a generation.
Yeah, this is spot on. It's what bothers me about the "excuses" made for Fury. It's the same with Fury's extremely laboured win over Wallin. Basically I see a lot of "bad day at the office" or "he didn't take it seriously" excuses regarding Fury. And I feel like these aren't necessarily invalid in themselves. But... These excuses just aren't convincing when Fury's resume is so paper-thin for how long he's been touted as a champion.
AJ has had 3 fights recently and Fury hadn't fought in over a year made a huge difference. The lack of activity with modern boxers compared to the past is a real issue. Look at parker 4 fights in a year and beats Wilder, now 5 recent fights and beats Zhang.
Fury was clearly not prepared at all for Ngannou but If Fury gets smashed don't blame it on him being over the top. He should have been man enough to face the elites years ago. No one to blame but himself
I don't disagree with the general thrust of the video but wish to raise a couple counterpoints: - You (and others you may have in mind) may not be "making excuses" for Fury, but plenty people are. I've seen people saying that Fury intentionally looked bad against Ngannou to trick Usyk. So I feel like (in this video, i haven't seen your other content) you're overlooking a rather large contingent of people who can't take a hint of criticism towards Fury. - You may have addressed this elsewhere, but still: I think Fury's performance is also particularly morally egregious. I'm sure Fury didn't take it too seriously, but that's just another example of him conning the fans. Him and his father told us Ngannou was more dangerous than Usyk, and Fury took the fight in order to obstruct the Usyk fight. Fury then continued to hype Ngannou up and say Ngannou- AJ would be a 50/50 fight. I'll always question Fury's sincerity but still. -I don't want to put words in other people's mouths but I guess the reason people are annoyed when they hear "Fury didn't take this seriously" is because he SHOULD have to take his fights seriously. I don't think it's morally excusable for him to sell the public PPV fights that he doesn't feel he has to perform his best in. I realise this is a little disconnected from the central point of the video. But I do think it's a reason that people take exception to any "excuses" for Fury's performance -As a last, more general point: Fury's resume is paper-thin for how long ago he first acquired a World title. I see people use the "bad day at the office" analogy. While I think that's often valid, to extend the analogy, I think it's less valid when one turns up to work twice a week and does very little. If he was a consummate professional with a couple of poor performances against contenders, that'd be a different story. But really, he's a clown of a "champion" with a paper-thin resume who's making a mockery of the sport. He just appears to want to forever hold up the division while wanting everlasting credit for having significant victories against a mere two opponents in about 10 years. I guess this is another reason that Fury performing so poorly is particularly egregious to real boxing fans. Fury made it look like an MMA dude can hang with boxing World Champions. And that just feels like another example of Fury's contempt for boxing and its fans.
It’s no excuse it’s just obvious. Fury looked out of shape and had a clearly bad game plan. Joshua had video of ngannou. Fury went in blind with no idea of how ngannou was going to box. These aren’t excuses, but facts.
I know it's only ngonnau and it was his second pro fight but that was a devastating performance from Joshua. It looks like the public seems to be backing AJ again. Maybe not at the capacity they did before his loses but u can definitely see public change from fury to AJ. Fury only chance to gain public trust again is to not back out the usyk fight again and to do what AJ failed to do and is to beat usyk. For some reason I think fury will put on one of his best performances against usyk but will be enough to beat usyk I'm not so sure because usyk is one in a generation special elite fighters!!
Spot on. Fury is only good when juiced. If he is unjuiced he is is bang average. We have seen both versions of Fury. At the beginning of his career he wasn’t juiced and would struggle against lower tier fighters. Then he hooked up with the Kronk and started juicing and also learning some useful boxing stuff. That combination obviously worked. Now he can’t juice every time and especially for someone like Ngannou whom he should beat unjuiced. Unfortunately the unjuiced version is very very very average and Ngannou was able to cope with that version.
I've always held my judgement of Fury until he starts fighting those on the other side of the track. His win against Whyte was a good sign, and Joshua was in trouble. I still wasn't all in on Fury, because he clearly speaks a lot of crap and looks for fights in the most disengenuous way. Pushing Joshua for a fight after the 2nd loss was where I lost respect for Fury. If he was confident in his abilities, he would have pushed to have the fight with Usyk then and told Joshua to get himself back together and he would deal with him after Usyk. Fury's current legacy is based upon beating Wilder. I've never rated Wilder as a top level boxer. He's an athletic freak, but never worked on his craft. If he had have not been so heavily protected and had have gone through these challenges 10 years ago he could have become anything, but he didn't. Anthony Joshua on the other hand is also and athletic freak, but he has worked diligently on his craft. In fact, the whole PBC thing is a sham. Spence was never on Crawford's level. Cannelo humbled Charlo and Plant, Fury and Parker humbeled Wilder and I'm waiting to see Haney do the same to Tank.
It's true what you're saying. Maybe in a few years the next dominant heavyweight will arrive on the scene. He'll have a run of impressive wins and people will jump on the bandwagon claiming he's unbeatable and the best heavyweight of all time. Then he'll have a bad fight and everyone will desert him and say he was overrated. When Fury fights Usyk many will call the winner the greatest ever and the loser will be called rubbish, even if it's a close fight.
Fury beat Wilder, Klitschko and a diminished Dillian Whyte that’s it. He got lucky that He didn’t get a loss from the judges for both John McDermot and Otto Wallin
@@agnikaineverdies7646 He was fortunate not to get stopped for cuts. I think Fury's status kinda got him the benefit of the doubt (a bit like when Wilder knocked him down in the first fight and it honestly could've been waved off right away (not saying it should've been but I do think Fury, again, got the benefit of the doubt). And it being UD doesn't refute that Fury made a meal of it.
hahahahahahahaha, it isnt being a fan boy to say he didnt train. That was obvious by his physical state going in. The coaches shouldnt have let him near a ring in that condition. Looks like they are taking it seriously for usyk.
Consider that Fury's game is very much base on fouling now. Ngannou took clinches from Fury and Fury looked like bum. But maybe he is a bum without clinches and fouling in his stage?! Fury said, he had good camp before Ngannou.
The day Usyk made the move to the heavyweight division he became number one. AJ became number two. Fury and Wilder are each others best opponent, not even in the top five. Francis Nganu has a better resume. All in my humble opinion of course.
I'm not a boxing fan but i follow tyson for other reasons outside boxing. You guys just hate on tyson. He never gave any excuse for loosing even though everyone know he didn't train. He was like a balloon
Fury hasn't been facing the best, he doesnt stay in shape he hasnt been really that active, hes not willing since becoming wbc champ to take on the best in the division, he holds on to that 0, The fact people are grabbing at straws by saying " oh fury didn't train" But hes the of his era isnt he? Hes the best heavyweight in a 1000, years??? Hes the generstional great??? But yet he struggled against a man that was having his first professional boxing fight, I dont want to hear this excuse from the fan boys if fury only trained for two weeks he should still be dealing with nnganou. Fury's face said it all after Joshua done what he did eith nnganou. Fury can say "oh Joshua wont land that right hand on me" Fury must have amnesia becauee slow plodding fighters have still landed on fury an out on his feet wilder still dropped fury, but yet fury wants you to believe that Joshua wont land on him, this man was still getting hit in his trilogy fight against chisora thats way over the hill.😂😂😂
Probably most of this hype about Fury was because he beat wilder.A guy thats so overrated its untrue! Wilders a shocking boxer, zero skill but can hit.Furys managed to make lots of people buy into the fact he is the best by beating another fraud . If fury does get in the ring with Usyk and thsts a big if.He will lose on points.If he fights Joshua he will get knocked out.
Fury and his team said they had an excellent camp for the Nganu fight, so stop making excuses, even though I say you're not. neven pikage nearly KO'd him. Cunningham, Wallin, and Chisora in their first bout all gave him fits. Fury is a very awkward fighter due to his size and reach, but he's heavily overrated. Outside of a scared wlad who only came alive in the last two rounds, who he refused to rematch, who else of note has he beat , outside of a very limited Wilder?!
Likely fury set up for a rematch with Nggannou and it backfired on him , Anthony followed suit in a cherry picked Francis Nggannou fight all in avoidance of Deontay Wilder. You have to cheat him to beat him. Bomb squad!!!
If people want to make a big deal about his performance when it was first announced as an exhibition then I don't know what to say lol,read between the lines ffs.
Joshua looked like a professional athlete, Fury looked like a proferssional drunk...
If Tyson Fury didn't train, that means Sugar allowed it,
Which makes him a yes man
Don’t mind him, let him keep chatting shit. He’s clearly a fan boy and making up excuses for fury
Tyson fury is exaggerated beyond belief not to mention a drug cheat
I've been saying it for years, Fury is the best boxer-promoter in the buisness, he sells his own performances while downplaying everyone else's and the casuals have been eating it up for years.
Physiologically it's a case of when not if his body gives in. At 6ft7.5, once 400lbs, the savage shots to the head, the drinking, not looking after himself, running for cardio and being on the sniff as recently as this weekend can't be good for his longevity.
The look on his and Frank's face as ngannou was decapitated suggests they know Tyson is done.
Ngannou owns Fury's soul. We don't care if he won a shouting match with Ngannou off camera, we saw Ngannou clown his ass on camera. And Fury's bs doesn't fly on anyone with a thinking brain
😂 Owns his soul but lost at the same time. Ok sure. What are you going to be saying when Fury beats Usyk?
@@justsayin7937 if Fury really won that fight, we wouldn't have been seeing Ngannou in the ring again & getting paid $20 million. Did you see Fury's face after the fight? For someone who won, Fury seems to be angry & defensive all the time, unlike Ngannou. AJ was chilled as Fuck after his REAL win. What will I say when Fury beats Usyk? Lol you have more faith that Fury has because if a Fury victory was guaranteed, he wouldn't have been ducking Usyk this much
If Francis is 0-2 how did Fury lose? Fury didn't counter Francis one time in that fight. If you think that bs wasn't scripted I bet you think WWE isn't scripted also huh? And you still crazy to say "Ngannou owns Fury's soul". C'mon man, that's just Ludacris. Fury about to be the undisputed HW Champ of the world but Ngannou owns his soul. 😂
@@justsayin7937 if Usyk beats Fury, which is looking highly likely, we won't see any Fury fanboys again because you'll all go running back to WWE.
@@dogpoofairy2517 too bad youtube keeps blocking my replies. Oh well
If AJ outdoing Fury's common opponents was a one-off. Fair enough. I just feel there's a clear disparity now. Not training for a fight correctly is no excuse. That doesn't affect his clear lack of punching power. Look objectively at Fury's best wins. He bamboozled Wlad in the most boring fight ever. And beats a one-trick-pony who was a protected fighter. Fury's resume just doesn't stack up. Yet you have clowns like Simon Jordan declaring him the best of this era without ever proving it. That's the frustrating part.
For me, Fury has always been overrated. I think we will get all the answers once/if Fury faces Usyk. But right now, I put AJ ahead of Fury based upon evidence. After AJ lost to Usyk a second time & his confidence was rock bottom. Absolutely, I would be picking Fury. But a lot has happened since then.
AJ has rebuilt, and in his past two performances in particular, he is arguably better than 'old AJ'. If Fury was to face AJ next, I'd be picking AJ 100%. But let's see how Fury gets on with Usyk. Can he do what AJ couldn't? I suspect not. We shall see...
100% I also get angry when people make excuses for fury on the basis that if that was AJ these same people wouldn't make an excuse for him but instead rip him to pieces and I hate double standards like that.
Can't argue with that, mate.
Your not getting it..Most of us annoyed because Furys resume has 3 top 10s on it..And yet the media were saying hes had a better career than AJ..Even though AJ has beaten 10 top tens, More title fights, more title defense etc etc...Theres a thing called Boxrec which lists the rankings and records of all the opponents...And the media has not give credit for AJ resume, yet Fury was being called the best of a generation.
Who’s “the media”? “The media” is made up of a disparate group of people who all believe different things.
Exactly.. you should always compare records, the media are brought and paid PR mouthpieces..
Yeah, this is spot on. It's what bothers me about the "excuses" made for Fury. It's the same with Fury's extremely laboured win over Wallin.
Basically I see a lot of "bad day at the office" or "he didn't take it seriously" excuses regarding Fury. And I feel like these aren't necessarily invalid in themselves. But...
These excuses just aren't convincing when Fury's resume is so paper-thin for how long he's been touted as a champion.
Boxing hardcore's never bought his crap, Gareth A Davies is just a knob and Fury fans don't know any better. 😂
Aj is the new great black hope😂
Yep hahaha
Today:
Usyk > AJ > Fury
AJ has had 3 fights recently and Fury hadn't fought in over a year made a huge difference. The lack of activity with modern boxers compared to the past is a real issue. Look at parker 4 fights in a year and beats Wilder, now 5 recent fights and beats Zhang.
Fury was clearly not prepared at all for Ngannou but If Fury gets smashed don't blame it on him being over the top. He should have been man enough to face the elites years ago. No one to blame but himself
Pure and simple , it's not necessarily that he is scared , but he is undoubtedly trying to tilt the table.
I don't disagree with the general thrust of the video but wish to raise a couple counterpoints:
- You (and others you may have in mind) may not be "making excuses" for Fury, but plenty people are. I've seen people saying that Fury intentionally looked bad against Ngannou to trick Usyk. So I feel like (in this video, i haven't seen your other content) you're overlooking a rather large contingent of people who can't take a hint of criticism towards Fury.
- You may have addressed this elsewhere, but still: I think Fury's performance is also particularly morally egregious. I'm sure Fury didn't take it too seriously, but that's just another example of him conning the fans. Him and his father told us Ngannou was more dangerous than Usyk, and Fury took the fight in order to obstruct the Usyk fight. Fury then continued to hype Ngannou up and say Ngannou- AJ would be a 50/50 fight. I'll always question Fury's sincerity but still.
-I don't want to put words in other people's mouths but I guess the reason people are annoyed when they hear "Fury didn't take this seriously" is because he SHOULD have to take his fights seriously. I don't think it's morally excusable for him to sell the public PPV fights that he doesn't feel he has to perform his best in. I realise this is a little disconnected from the central point of the video. But I do think it's a reason that people take exception to any "excuses" for Fury's performance
-As a last, more general point: Fury's resume is paper-thin for how long ago he first acquired a World title. I see people use the "bad day at the office" analogy. While I think that's often valid, to extend the analogy, I think it's less valid when one turns up to work twice a week and does very little. If he was a consummate professional with a couple of poor performances against contenders, that'd be a different story. But really, he's a clown of a "champion" with a paper-thin resume who's making a mockery of the sport. He just appears to want to forever hold up the division while wanting everlasting credit for having significant victories against a mere two opponents in about 10 years. I guess this is another reason that Fury performing so poorly is particularly egregious to real boxing fans. Fury made it look like an MMA dude can hang with boxing World Champions. And that just feels like another example of Fury's contempt for boxing and its fans.
Well said. No hype, no rhetoric, just the facts.
Good points 👍
Exactly...
It’s no excuse it’s just obvious. Fury looked out of shape and had a clearly bad game plan. Joshua had video of ngannou. Fury went in blind with no idea of how ngannou was going to box. These aren’t excuses, but facts.
I know it's only ngonnau and it was his second pro fight but that was a devastating performance from Joshua. It looks like the public seems to be backing AJ again. Maybe not at the capacity they did before his loses but u can definitely see public change from fury to AJ. Fury only chance to gain public trust again is to not back out the usyk fight again and to do what AJ failed to do and is to beat usyk. For some reason I think fury will put on one of his best performances against usyk but will be enough to beat usyk I'm not so sure because usyk is one in a generation special elite fighters!!
Spot on. Fury is only good when juiced. If he is unjuiced he is is bang average. We have seen both versions of Fury. At the beginning of his career he wasn’t juiced and would struggle against lower tier fighters. Then he hooked up with the Kronk and started juicing and also learning some useful boxing stuff. That combination obviously worked. Now he can’t juice every time and especially for someone like Ngannou whom he should beat unjuiced. Unfortunately the unjuiced version is very very very average and Ngannou was able to cope with that version.
he juiced in the kronk, which era of kronk? the 2nd you have no proof
Tyson fury was over rated simple
Yes you are simple
Don't hate
What if he beats Usyk and AJ?
@@FelipoYThe won’t
@@reasonabledoubt337 Thank you Nostradamus
I've always held my judgement of Fury until he starts fighting those on the other side of the track. His win against Whyte was a good sign, and Joshua was in trouble. I still wasn't all in on Fury, because he clearly speaks a lot of crap and looks for fights in the most disengenuous way. Pushing Joshua for a fight after the 2nd loss was where I lost respect for Fury. If he was confident in his abilities, he would have pushed to have the fight with Usyk then and told Joshua to get himself back together and he would deal with him after Usyk.
Fury's current legacy is based upon beating Wilder. I've never rated Wilder as a top level boxer. He's an athletic freak, but never worked on his craft. If he had have not been so heavily protected and had have gone through these challenges 10 years ago he could have become anything, but he didn't. Anthony Joshua on the other hand is also and athletic freak, but he has worked diligently on his craft.
In fact, the whole PBC thing is a sham. Spence was never on Crawford's level. Cannelo humbled Charlo and Plant, Fury and Parker humbeled Wilder and I'm waiting to see Haney do the same to Tank.
May 18th everyone will be on Tyson again if he wins and the others will say that’s not the same usyk who fought aj or he was too small
Good thing he isn't winning
He hasn’t lost a fight as yet back up !!!!
Yeah but how many 15 second 10-counts was he given ?
I'm soo glad the Fury bubble has finally burst. Sick of people buying into the TBE crap that doesn't need to fight anyone.
You and me both!
It's true what you're saying. Maybe in a few years the next dominant heavyweight will arrive on the scene. He'll have a run of impressive wins and people will jump on the bandwagon claiming he's unbeatable and the best heavyweight of all time. Then he'll have a bad fight and everyone will desert him and say he was overrated. When Fury fights Usyk many will call the winner the greatest ever and the loser will be called rubbish, even if it's a close fight.
Just have a proper look at fury’s resume , he’s fought no one , the most careful heavyweight in history.
Fury beat Wilder, Klitschko and a diminished Dillian Whyte that’s it. He got lucky that He didn’t get a loss from the judges for both John McDermot and Otto Wallin
Fury won a UD against Wallin, wasn’t even close
@@agnikaineverdies7646 He was fortunate not to get stopped for cuts. I think Fury's status kinda got him the benefit of the doubt (a bit like when Wilder knocked him down in the first fight and it honestly could've been waved off right away (not saying it should've been but I do think Fury, again, got the benefit of the doubt). And it being UD doesn't refute that Fury made a meal of it.
hahahahahahahaha, it isnt being a fan boy to say he didnt train. That was obvious by his physical state going in. The coaches shouldnt have let him near a ring in that condition. Looks like they are taking it seriously for usyk.
Consider that Fury's game is very much base on fouling now. Ngannou took clinches from Fury and Fury looked like bum. But maybe he is a bum without clinches and fouling in his stage?! Fury said, he had good camp before Ngannou.
The day Usyk made the move to the heavyweight division he became number one. AJ became number two. Fury and Wilder are each others best opponent, not even in the top five. Francis Nganu has a better resume. All in my humble opinion of course.
Fury needs to beat usyk and AJ to be the best of this generation. But neither will happen.
I'm not a boxing fan but i follow tyson for other reasons outside boxing.
You guys just hate on tyson. He never gave any excuse for loosing even though everyone know he didn't train. He was like a balloon
Respectfully, your opinion is invalid.
Fury hasn't been facing the best, he doesnt stay in shape he hasnt been really that active, hes not willing since becoming wbc champ to take on the best in the division, he holds on to that 0,
The fact people are grabbing at straws by saying " oh fury didn't train"
But hes the of his era isnt he?
Hes the best heavyweight in a 1000, years???
Hes the generstional great???
But yet he struggled against a man that was having his first professional boxing fight,
I dont want to hear this excuse from the fan boys if fury only trained for two weeks he should still be dealing with nnganou.
Fury's face said it all after Joshua done what he did eith nnganou.
Fury can say "oh Joshua wont land that right hand on me"
Fury must have amnesia becauee slow plodding fighters have still landed on fury an out on his feet wilder still dropped fury, but yet fury wants you to believe that Joshua wont land on him, this man was still getting hit in his trilogy fight against chisora thats way over the hill.😂😂😂
Probably most of this hype about Fury was because he beat wilder.A guy thats so overrated its untrue! Wilders a shocking boxer, zero skill but can hit.Furys managed to make lots of people buy into the fact he is the best by beating another fraud . If fury does get in the ring with Usyk and thsts a big if.He will lose on points.If he fights Joshua he will get knocked out.
Fury and his team said they had an excellent camp for the Nganu fight, so stop making excuses, even though I say you're not. neven pikage nearly KO'd him. Cunningham, Wallin, and Chisora in their first bout all gave him fits.
Fury is a very awkward fighter due to his size and reach, but he's heavily overrated. Outside of a scared wlad who only came alive in the last two rounds, who he refused to rematch, who else of note has he beat , outside of a very limited Wilder?!
Remember John McDermot😂
Even the greatest in history had bad performances. If he beats Usyk, then who cares about the Ngannou fight.
Nonsense
If you believe that Fury was at his best against N’gannou then you’ll look silly on may 18th
Maybe but Fury is still losing
Likely fury set up for a rematch with Nggannou and it backfired on him , Anthony followed suit in a cherry picked Francis Nggannou fight all in avoidance of Deontay Wilder. You have to cheat him to beat him. Bomb squad!!!
Fury was always overrated, AJ would of always beaten him said it for years, aint nothing changed, Nandrolone
If people want to make a big deal about his performance when it was first announced as an exhibition then I don't know what to say lol,read between the lines ffs.
What y’all goin to do when he becomes undisputed and beats the man who schooled aj twice y’all goin to be cryin in the car
And then you'll wake up from your dream. 🫠