**Too many comments for me to respond to but cheers for watching 👍🏽 I can confirm that I am in fact NOT a Fury/Wilder hater - just someone who wants to see the sport thrive and who doesn't enjoy being mugged off by pathological liars.**
Wilder just isn't good when up against very decent opponents. Fury's resume is looking worse and worse by the day. His whole legacy is built on the Wilder trilogy when Wilder is a one trick pony with very poor technical boxing ability. If you take away Wilder's right hand you've got nothing to work with.
Yeap Thats the reason they were trying to avoid everyone, and just keep talking about how Wilder was the best amd Tyson Fury is the goat, and he will beat easy Usyk. Now look at what happened they got exposed, and people talking that its because the trillogy took a tool on both of them, when in reallity maybe it was that they were not as good as they were talking
People in the comments stating that Fury lost to Usyk by one point as if that meant it could've gone either way. The Ref saved him and gave him a long count, Fury was unconscious while standing, don't try to make it sound closer than it was.
The fight wasnt even that close, it was definitely competitive, but I give fury four rounds, and that's the most i can give him. The commentators didnt help with their ridiculously Tyson Fury biase, they kept praising fury for hitting Usyks gloves. The stats seem to back up what I seen in the fight, and that was Usyk was hitting fury with scoring shots, and fury was just pawing his glove out towards Usyk half the time, and people actually thought he was scoring points doing that😮.
Fury never beat anyone who could box. As a heavyweight, Usyk is not really that great. He’s solid, but contrary to guys like Fury and Wilder, he is a student of the sport and stays focused and disciplined.
Fury and Wilder received permanent damage from each other in their trilogy. Father time has compounded Wilder's decline as well. It's time for him to retire. Fury has lost his chin from those Wilder knockdowns. Just don't become a member of the Joshua hype machine either! He's no good either! Usyk is the cream of the division. Both his fights with AJ were blowouts, as was his win over Fury and the biased commentators covering the match. I scored it 117-111 for Usyk.
We should just be glad neither one of these master class cherry pickers didn't retire before getting exposed.. otherwise, we'd never hear the end of it
No, not every belt organization. IBF are looking to strip Usyk of that belt when he only just won it less than a month ago. They did the interim bout literally a week or two after Usyk/Fury.
@@MartialArtsNk Every belt has been up for unification apart from the WBC. First Vitali was given exemption not to unify against his brother and since then Wilder then Fury held that belt hostage. It was only because the Saudi's broke the bank and paid the ransom that it was put up for unification. The WBC are guilty as charged
Exactly the rules state of your a belt holder you have to fight minimum 2 mandatory challengers a year! So fury owes us 7 of those he only faught one which was Whyte! And wilder NEVER faught a number one contender! They even gave fury 12 months once "retired" to decide if he would come back before taking the belt! It's a fucking joke!
It's crazy how AJ was at ringside to watch both guys that froze him out of undisputed get beat up back to back. One got beaten back to new year's even while the other got beaten that he spun around like a ferris wheel.
AJ was hanging on for dear life in the 12 round of his first fight against Usyk. And lost again in the rematch. At the end of the day, Fury only lost to the same guy, AJ lost to twice so their both below Usyk and it's all irrelevant anyway.
@@lyrickoner AJ went into the Usyk fights with no fear though, Fury ducked, dodged, twirled and whirled away from Usyk he even got more weeks of training due to his 'cut' and still got the breaks beat off of him. Not to mention AJ was coming off of a points over Ruiz and that vicious KO he got from Ruiz took his soul so to speak. Whereas Fury was undefeated.
@@888thawk 240p blurry video in 2024 as proof? We've all witnessed on May 18th why Fury ducked and stalled for years and staged his own injury. Internet clowns say anything.
If it wasn't for the Saudi's, Fury would still be avoiding Usyk & AJ And all the Fury fans would still be banging on how great Wilder was, Wilder's never been any good, plenty past heavyweights have taken far more punishment than him and came back and won titles back (Ali, Lewis, Mike Tyson)
Lewis didn't absorb sustained beatings in his losses. They were one punch knock outs. The worst continual battering I've seen Lewis take was in his victory over Ray Mercer.
@HopyHop1 Zeljko Mavrovic, Evander Holyfield x2, and David Tua all ruffed up Lewis worse than what Fury did to Wilder and them three boxers would've have beat Fury & Wilder with ease. You'll have to do real research before even trying to debunk me buddy 👍
I guess you could say these were 2 fighters who both made each other look good and tried to sell it to the fans that "fury's the greatest","wilder's the second best" and AJ's irrelevant.
@KwonJasperethes definitely not mediocre but Klitschko was over 40 years old when fury beat him, so it's not like he beat a prime Klitschko, but I give him credit for having the balls to doing it.
@KwonJasperet I think you are the casual, Vlad was way past his prime at 40 year old when fury fought him and it was one of the most boring fights ever where fury hugged and clinched his way to a not so clear a victory. At least joshua knocked vlad out. If it were not for furys size and reach he beats nobody. FACT
I'd say Wilder is a mediocre fighter with some power and Fury is a really good fighter. Neither of them is great though. Imagine putting them in an era with Ali, Holyfield, Foreman, prime Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis. They'd probably be number 8 and number 9 in the charts and I'm being generous. But again I'm just a random UA-cam commenter, what do I know?
@@stomingaben Was that era that great or was it just exciting as the guys were all evenly matched like Fury and Wilder are? Why have so few Americans been relevant in the heavyweight division since more Eastern European fighters started turning pro?
@KwonJasperet Yes against the same cherry picked fighters Fury and Wilder have taken since. Fury took zero risks against a 40 year old and got behind his jab and bored his way to the win. He's better than WIlder and probably among the top 10 in the World but nowhere near elite , he's fought precisely 1 (Usyk) of the Worlds top 10 HWs on Boxrec so doesnt deserve that title , "kiddo".
They spent their prime years creating an image that wasn’t absolutely warranted; Deontay winders being the baddest man on the planet and Tyson Fury being the best ever. They both didn’t do enough to be considered either. But they underestimated what era they both are in where there are a large number of top contenders and boogeymen. So really and truly these losses aren’t surprising, only surprising to those who believed the hype bout these two men.
They wasted 3 whole fucking years of the division for their stupid trilogy. The 2nd fight was February 2020, their 3rd fight was October 2021. That was nearly 2 years gap of them doing absolutely nothing and not allowing anyone else to fight them. In between the 1st and 2nd fight they fought absolutely nobodies as well where wilder recycled ortiz. We could have seen so many matchups from 2018-2021 instead of their trilogy
@@ThePhazonMonado LOL. That’s interestingly funny. Where are you from? Please don’t be from england or the US…try to make your comment make sense a little bit,not too much paradox
@@ThePhazonMonadoHow do you have the front to criticise the Saudi government when your own country literally massacred a million innocent Iraqi women and children just so they could steal their countries oil and lie about Wmd's ?.
This is a fact. For years Wikder and Fury weaponised the fact that AJ didn’t really trash talk that much and basically made a silent agreement to just bamboozle the world into thinking they were #1 and #2 and that AJ was chinny and was cherry picking when in reality both Tyson and wilder were doing the EXACT thing they were accusing Joshua off. The ring is the circle of truth n there was only so many times you can lie without backing it up. Fury the defensive wizard got plastered around the ring by a cruiserweight who was meant to be easy work. N wilders been exposed for what he always was a crude hard hitting puncher. There was a reason Fury targeted wilder immediately after coming off a coke binge im just so glad the world is waking up and the truth has been revealed. This day was always coming there was no avoiding it.
@@ajvindiesel8517they’re not the best of ANYTHING. Both FAR inferior to Aj which is why they teamed up to make him look bad…LOL. Also why Aj makes their common opponents look like children.
@@youngerudit2524think you'll find its AJ with the glass jaw left reeling v Klitchko, Ruiz, Whyte and Usyk. Fury took a bomb from Wilder and Usyk and still finished the strongest.
@@ajvindiesel8517aj got up and ko vlad, beat ruiz in the rematch and never got wobbled like fury did against usyk, if you say wilder was 2nd best then tell me who he beat to earn that?
Neither Fury nor Wilder would even have been known in the 70, 80 and 90ties and would have been extremely honoured if they were allowed to be sparring partners for some of the then greats. It's tough to be the "greatest of all times heavyweights" Fury🤣😂LOL, having fought nobodies and having received a hiding from the novice Ngannou, been dropped as well and made to look like he just got out of a car crash. And then getting a hiding from "a little ugly man, sausage, gap-toothed rabbit middleweight, who did not run, run, run" Usyk, who allowed the referee to save Fury from a total knock out. That fight was "one class too far" for Fury. And as I had commented some years ago already, now we all know it and have seen what good and excellent boxing looks like.
What always annoyed me was the lack of questioning of Fury and Wilder's resume. Compared to the other top heavyweights, their resumes are thin of top level opponents. Yet the level of opposition they had fought was not analysed to the same degree as the opponents Joshua, Whyte, even Parker were fighting.
Mate, please wash your mouth with soap, like what the f is this supposed to be? Whyte? Heck Fury has a top 3 resume at HW atm as bad as it is, but Whyte? Whyte barely fought anybody legit, and got easily dominated by Fury. Whyte is a bigger cherry picker than Fury is and that's saying something. Well perhaps not if we consider his low level, he fought competition who are more likely to beat him than Fury cause he was that low level. Parker meanwhile has more gifted wins than any other top 50 HW today, by far. And who hasn't questioned and ridiculed Fury's and Wilder's resumes?
@@MartialArtsNk Whyte fought and beat three world champions. Browne, Parker, Povetkin, fought Fury and Joshua and unbeaten fighters like Rivas, beat Helenius who was top 10 at that time,Chisora twice. Ur comment shows u havent got a clue of the landscape of boxing.
@@suchasin Son, please don't cope and educate yourself. Browne and Povetkin World Champs.... Never once in their life. They held the WBA "Regular" Belt which means fook all. Now Povetkin we can claim should have won vs Wladimir Klitschko via DQ, but Browne? Come on.... And Helenius who was top 10 at that time? Son the only time Helenius was "considered" top 10 is when he was coming off 2 wins vs Kownacki, when Wilder 1st round KOd him. Rivas has proven himself to be sort of a bum and the judge saved Whyte for the last 3 rounds vs Rivas. Chisora he lost to. In the rematch it was close, till the ref deducted a point and then Chisora panicked, risked it and got KOd. And Parker has so many gifted decisions, even vs a freaking bum like Junior Fa at that time, even his WBO title vs Ruiz, I don't rate that win where Whyte barely survived.
@@suchasin Heck you casuals. You probably just went on google wikipedia, read his resume and came back to try to look smart. You got a lot to learn. And lets not even talk about all the guys Whyte ducked like Wilder and Ortiz. Even Joshua when Joshua had 3 belts. Whyte was more than happy to fight Joshua the first time (since he stopped him in the amateurs once), but wasn't looking forward to a rematch after.
@@MartialArtsNk U can have your opinion and try to enforce it by callinmg others u dont agree casuals but I am not one of those as I watch all fights be that day or night and i also have an opinion on wether the matchmaking was fair or to pad someones record and I also have an opinion on the decisions of certyain fights..be that as it may facts are facts.
Goofy alright, had poor punch technique, no power, and has no defence! His defence of stepping back putting his head up in the air 🤷 and they want you to beleive he is great because he beat a basketball player who lacks the basics of boxing has no footwork, always off balance, can't punch and has Fury's leaky defence!
Fury's technique never had to be good to win his fights because his freakish height, reach, hand-speed and movement would always make up for how weak and awkward his punches were. When Fury went up against Usyk who was faster than him and was able to nullify his height and reach, Fury's lazy technique really showed.
"lazy", is a good way to describe it. Fury's height and reach and overall size are what seperated him from most orher heavyweights. It reallly wasnt that he was a great boxer who happened to just be unusually big, because, just like Deontay Wilder, how often did he have to prove it against great fighters? Where are all the ex champions on his record whose records demonstrate how great he is because he beat them? Where are Fury's Ali's, Frazier's Foreman's, Norton's, and even younger fighters like Holmes or Lyle or others who threaten the reign of long reigning champions?
His awkward movements and long reach make it hard to gather his chin. And he can take a punch. He can be fast and powerful. Usyk found a way to stun him, allowing an onslaught. ❤
Fury's problem is he's lazy and over rates himself. If you call yourself "The Baddest Man on the Planet", "The Greatest Heavyweight of All Time", and claim "No man born from his mother can beat me", etc. Where do you go and what do you now say after you've been beaten up by a pumped up middleweight?
I’ve been saying this for the past 2 years. Frank Warren praised Wilder’s 6 year reign as champion and said he’s one of the generation greats. Bollocks, had he fought credible opponents earlier in his career he’d have been found out years ago. He’s saying that to add weight to Fury’s legacy, good riddance to the lot of them.
God bless you my brother 🙏 Fury fans boys have been so full of them selves I started to wonder if I was the only one seeing thru fury and Wilder? Online they would bully and insult you if you dare criticize fury or Wilder
Wilder was, at best, a protected champion who faltered whenever he stepped up in competition. Let's not pretend he lost to a young, prime heavyweight; Zhang is 41 years old and did not look particularly impressive himself. Fury deceived the public by fighting Wilder and proclaiming that they were the two best heavyweights. I've been saying since 2019 that Fury is overrated, and recent events have proven that to be true.
That Zhang power and timing is elite though even still at 41. It's a shame his career didn't get up to speed a decade ago as he seems to have all the talent an extremely old boxer could hope for.
@hoi-polloi1863 could be possible I just feel like Fury's self perceived market value is going to prohibit him fighting anyone other than AJ or his already guaranteed rematch with Usyk
@hoi-polloi1863 Fury certainly one of the biggest wankers in boxing history. He bluffs his way to the top then won't fight anybody until absolutely forced to for 100 million. He was worse than Mayweather. Let's pray he doesn't win the rematch and hold the belts hostage another 5 years
I was a wilder fan but when I started seeing that he wasn't disciplined & didn't take training seriously & try to get better, that's when I began to see him as a fraud along with fury. Look at those resumes, it's a joke!
usyk is the only guy i wouldnt mind seeing him retiring with an unbeaten record because he is ready and willing to fight anyone. Fury would have ran his mouth and made sure he doesnt fight thegood guys in an effort to protect his record
The truth is, usyk and Joshua are the best of this generation. And everyday it's more clear. Wilder and fury were balloons waiting to be popped. Fury vs usyk undisputed fight was never going to happen knowing how corrupt the wbc is letting fury fight MMA fighters and the Derek chisoras of the world. The only reason it happened was because his Excellency Turki shoved more than 100 million down fury's throat. Through the entire promotion and even before the fight, fury looked unsure of himself because he knew he was going against the best this time and it was not going to be easy against the "middleweight."
I could add a Lot more to it but it's a bit pointless in light of the Fact that EVERYTHING you said is 100% True. But to sum it up in one simple sentence : *_"Tyson Fury & Deontay Wilder Finally Changed Lanes and they Both got Found Out...!"_*
Fury's only real accomplishment was catching old Klitchko flat footed and it turns out he was roided to his gills and received a 3 year ban. Fury the fraud. Wilder was a more obvious fraud all along though.
Makes you wonder if Usyk intentionally pretended like he was hurt to make Fury come out, quite a big possibility. Though then again could just be Dubois being dangerous enough for that, he exposed Hrgovic badly just now, a guy who went the distance with Zhang.
@MartialArtsNk Are you talking about that perfect body shot that Dubois landed with full power and torque against Usyk? That would have knocked out anybody, I wouldn't read too much into it.
@@CosmicCosmo1 Nothing perfect about it, it was right on the bladder. If it was perfect Usyk wouldn't have gotten up. But yeah quite possible it's legit, after all Dubois can crack.
How low the mighty have fallen, these two looked supreme just a short time ago. A great shake up has occurred in this world beyond boxing, Karma is real brother.
Fury is seriously overrated. Let’s look at the facts: 1. Struggled with Wallin: Fury barely made it past Otto Wallin. That fight exposed a lot of his weaknesses. AJ beat him easily. 2. Knocked out by Usyk: Usyk knocked out Fury and he was saved by the referee. That says a lot about his durability. 3. Wilder Trilogy: Sure, he fought Wilder three times, but he got dropped multiple times. Now, Wilder’s been embarrassed by the likes of Joseph Parker and Zhilei Zhang. It just shows Wilder’s not as great as people think, and Fury struggling with him looks even worse 4.Questionable Opponents: Wilder has never really fought anyone of note, and Fury has been going life and death with opponents that AJ easily handled, like Ngannou. Fury’s been dropped more times than I can count, which is insane for someone touted as the best. In conclusion, Fury’s record and performances don’t justify the hype. AJ and Usyk have shown they’re in a different league. The constant praise for Fury needs a reality check. Fury didn’t rematch Vlad, it was a stinker of a fight. Wilders career was a joke, he can’t box and fought no one.
1. Wallin lost a UD, wasn’t remotely a close fight, Wallin had 2 good rounds out of 12 2. Aj got stopped by Usyk in the first fight, he’s corner threw in the towel and the bell was rung early for some weird reason 3. Fury fought Wilder at his Wilders prime, the others fought Wilder after he was KO’d twice. And Fury at his best beat Wilder very easily in the second fight 4. AJ’s has only beaten opponents easily against fighters Fury didn’t take seriously. Fury had a much easier time against klitschko and Whyte 5. Fury was klitschko’s mandatory challenger so klitschko didn’t deserve a rematch especially with how easily he lost
@@agnikaineverdies7646 RE points 1 and 2: 1: You're right that Fury dominated the fight in terms of rounds won, but he should've suffered a TKO stoppage on account of the cut he had. Blood was gushing into his eye all fight, he was constantly pawing at it/wiping blood away, and it looked worse than both of the Hrgovic cuts we saw this past weekend that got Hrgovic stopped. So it's only by the ringside physician's blessing that Fury was allowed to continue (gotta get that big-money Deontay fight to happen). 2: AJ wasn't close to being stopped at all, it only looks that way to the naked eye without actually seeing things properly. Slow it down adn you can see that Usyk missed about 11 straight punches at the end due to AJ slipping them, he only landed the opening punches of the salvo and was then hitting air. AJ's corner also weren't getting ready to throw the towel in, if you look at them in the "behind the scenes" video of the fight when you see the towel waving you can see that they're actually celebrating, as shown with one of his cornermen, right next to the towel, clapping. They were applauding AJ for making Usyk miss which they could see from their angle and celebrating the end of a fight they thought he won. And for the timer, it wasn't some kind of ploy to save AJ or whatever people think, the Sky broadcast timer was off. Watch the start of the round, the bell goes but then the ref brings them back to make them touch gloves, then they start fighting; the Sky broadcast incorrectly started the timer from there vs the ringside timer starting from when the bell went.
it was the classic you know what, two big man, 2 of the tallest of the divsion, one american, other british and other differences, it was easy to convince people they are the best heavyweights at the time honestly, i fell into the trap, their face offs, their fights, how iconic they were, but turns out there is Anthony johusa, usyk, zhang, parker and others like dubois.
Imagine me,a guy who moved to the US,where they meticulously built this false narrative from scratch,RIGHT in time for this saga to start…only during the last year or so that I’m realizing how bad we were conned.
There's something about British acerbicness that just hits different. You weren't wrong in anything you said, but you did call it a rant. You did sound salty as hell, but this rant was very well thought out and intelligent. Also, I kind of wanted to feel sorry for Deontay going out the way he has. He sounded so defeated in the past few press conferences. Then I remember how he treated Mark Breland...
🤣 good point, i was reading this and thinking yeah i sort of feel sorry for him a bit too, then you reminded me of the breland thing and yeah, fk this guy im glad he went out like this.
100% agree - well said. The foul mouth Fury’s were on the verge of destroying boxing with their dodging and bluster. I used to follow Tyson but was so happy that a proper champion beat him.
I'm glad that someone finally said it. Your video title and the content are quite accurate. Great job! I agree that they finally got what they deserve for intentionally freezing out other boxers, especially AJ.
You've earned a sub!! Everything is bang on. Mayweather is the reason for a lot of these boxers trying to navigate particular fights. Long may Saudi continue!!
I feel bad for Joshua. I think he could have picked up the undisputed against Wilder years ago and looked really good doing it. If Fury was still to come back to fight AJ I think he'd have looked good beating him too.
Respect for this video Outmatch, the title seemed like it was gonna be just silly Wilder/Fury hate but this was a very well considered and presented video with compelling arguments especially regarding the standing of Fury and Wilder because of their trilogy. Always frustrated me how they sold Fury and Wilder as No1 and 2 because they only fought each other
Share your sentiments completely. 👌 Atleast they both finally got found out, imagine if his double supreme Excellency Mr Turkey didn't get involved & they retired with the illusion in tact. 🤦♂️🤣
Fantastic analysis. Couldn't have put it any better. A good big one will always beat a good little one...... usyk proved we haven't any good big ones🤷♂️
All you have said makes perfect sense. I still remember the Tyson Fury and Wilder fans making it seem like thses two frauds were in fact the best heavyweight boxers of all time! Relegating AJ especially after his 1st loss to Ruiz. Thank goodness a truly worthy champion now holds the belts! Tyson Fury and Wilder were basically deluding the boxing fanbase into believing they were number 1 and 2 content with just holding the WBC belt all while AJ was trying to unify. Their toxic fans defended their delusional champs with all their hypocritical might! Karma is a bitch!
I'd wager those who gave lip service to bs that these 2 could be mentioned in 'all time' status think time began in 2015 and if you even mentioned someone as recent as Klitschko their whole memory bank would start to crash. Mention the 20th century and they would probably start frothing at the mouth trying to process the concept of a time period exceeding ten years let alone be able to reel off the names and legacies of great heavyweights of the past.
According to teddy Atlas the definition of a great fighter is a fighter who always finds a way to win like Ali v Forman , holyfield v iron mike , iron mike vs Duglus who couldn't find a way to win , Holyfield was first elite Iron Mike fought, Ali first elite Forman fought , now Usyke first elite fury faced and couldn't find a way. Fury very good fighter but not elite, not great
Not very good, middle to average. It was his hight and weight that let him win against mediocre opponents, his holding, clinching, pushing, shoving, hitting with open gloves and open inside palms, holding behind the neck while hitting uppercuts at the same time and all the other semi-legal tricks he always got away with, but certainly not good or brilliant or excellent boxing. That we were shown by Usyk recently.
As a Wilder fan I saw it coming, I never saw him as a great skill wise. But he was entertaining and he never gave us a boring fight, he never aimed for a decision and his knockouts were electric. When he lost, he went out on his shield, all he had was his right hand and he almost made undisputed with it.
Great narrative mate I thoroughly agree. Who out of these 5 all time "Greatest Prime Heavyweights" does Fury or Wilder beat ? (1) Ike Ibeabuci (2) Lennox Lewis (3) George Foreman (4) Vitali Klitchko (5) Larry Holmes How about we go with zero !
i agree they deserved this. both guys drive me insane with their idiocy, i couldnt listen to interviews with them because the level of bs annoyed me. i went from someone who would watch channels like IFL, Boxsoci etc to only watching channels like this, hatman, gman, ade etc because i just cant deal with the level of nonsense coming form the fight teams. and that is almost entirely centred around tyson fury and wilder/pbc.
Very good video. THE TRUTH! I've never celebrated so much as when Usyk defeated Fury. That HAD to happen for the good of the sport. For the good of humanity!! I truly believe that good will always triumph over evil 🙂
Appreciate this one m8! I knew exactly what Luke was nearly 9 YEARS AGO! After he ducked the Wlad rematch! Although it was inevitable... For a minute there....😊👍✌️
The drama behind the Joshua-Fury-Wilder saga has been really eye opening since December. The non-casuals knew years ago that Joshua was the real deal out of the 3.
Usyk winning only restores things if he wins the rematch. He should have retired. He won 8-9 rounds against fury with a knockdown and got a split decision and the 2 judges that gave it to him had it way too close. The ref took a legendary moment away from everyone by stopping Usyk from landing the last blow in the 9th. On top of all that Fury is still a good boxer and always dangerous and had moments in that right even if he didn’t win a lot of rounds. They’re going to rob him for real this time lol. Point is if he loses in the rematch fairly or not we’re back to how it was and even worse cause Fury will say he got robbed in the first fight and proved it in the second.
I think the constant ducking comes from a too-deep fixation on "protecting the zero'. I'd like to see an Elo rating system like in chess... "The system uses a number to represent each player's Elo rating, which is based on their results from previous rated games. After each game, the winner takes points from the loser, and the difference in ratings between the two players determines how many points are gained or lost"
The churning is done..we have an undisputed champ..the cream has risen to the top...both these guys have insufferable egos n totally deserve their losses.
@@colnixon8989 Uysk won but it was a close fight. The knockdown is what sealed it. I feel like the 2nd fight could be just as close or even a Fury win.
Couldnt agree more bro. I was having this conversation with my mate just b4 the fury Usyk fight. Explaining that fury had only beaten Wilder who hadnt beaten anyone good and a Wladimir way past his prime. So glad to see Usyk win. He's a class act.
This was a great summary of the state of boxing. You remind me of Hatman but in soft voice! But I will say this, I'm glad Usyk beat AJ and Fury, not because I dislike them, but because if AJ had beaten Usyk, people would criticise him and say well he beat a jumped up cruiserweight- he's nothing special! Now that he's beaten Fury, shows the world Usyk is the real deal, so hopefully AJ can fight him for a title and win after Usyk beats Fury for a 2nd time. AJ will go down as one of the ATG's imo if that happens. Which I'm pretty certain he can get the win this time. People have disrespected AJ for too long. But that's going to change.
Excellent video here, I have a friend who before the Usyk fight believed Fury’s hype, I told him Usyk was going to give him the fight of his life and turned out to be correct. Which all came from listening to the Brotherhood, as well as watching Usyk these last 6 or 7 years. Usyk is the special one Fury made himself out to be. As for Wilder he was another that believed his own hype and lapped up what his fans put down in terms of conspiracies and ran with it. He made out that he was the most feared yet when top opposition come looking for him he was nowhere to be seen. Constantly making negotiations difficult aided and abetted by his team and We Be Crooks.
Quiz.... Who is the oddman out.... Ali, frazier, foreman, Lewis, holyfield, M, tyson, tyson fury, clue 6 are all time greats and 1 is a hyped up fraud,.
Eddie Hearn might be a charming brit, but he is just as insidious and dishonest as the other promoters in boxing. Ruiz and even Usyk were massive underdogs against Joshua, and ultimately Fury put up a far more competitive fight against Usyk than Joshua. Hearn and Joshua's team deserve just as much blame for not making it happen against Wilder or Fury, they could have figured out a way.
I've always maintained that these two dossers are bums compared to those from the golden era. I've always respected Joshua because, out of the three of them, he was always the only one who respected boxing. I'm just glad that history will remember these two as above average boxers.
When your best win is Charlie Zelenoff 👀👀👀 was frustrating as a fan of the sport to watch the shit show the sport became when influencers would fight for clout over money really put the sport in a bad place and perspective that fighters don't want to fight. Saudi has done an amazing job putting these cards together actually restoring some of the credibility to the sport hope it continues
Hahaha, yes. Mentioned that to somebody yesterday, that was his greatest win. That "fight" has been my go to when arguing about Wilder's feeble, fragile and immature mindset. Wilder is a very petty minded imbecile. He is one, just one, level above Zelenoff in being delusional.
**Too many comments for me to respond to but cheers for watching 👍🏽
I can confirm that I am in fact NOT a Fury/Wilder hater - just someone who wants to see the sport thrive and who doesn't enjoy being mugged off by pathological liars.**
They said n their fan boys but I think most FIGHT FANS think like you in that a lot of these guys can beat each other on any given day.
Wilder just isn't good when up against very decent opponents. Fury's resume is looking worse and worse by the day. His whole legacy is built on the Wilder trilogy when Wilder is a one trick pony with very poor technical boxing ability. If you take away Wilder's right hand you've got nothing to work with.
Straight up.
@JJab12345at But he didn't fight anyone of note in the last 10 years
Right now absolutely, stepping up when ur shot bad idea
Yeap Thats the reason they were trying to avoid everyone, and just keep talking about how Wilder was the best amd Tyson Fury is the goat, and he will beat easy Usyk.
Now look at what happened they got exposed, and people talking that its because the trillogy took a tool on both of them, when in reallity maybe it was that they were not as good as they were talking
Malik Scott did a number on Wilder. He taught him to speak like him, and that's about it.
People in the comments stating that Fury lost to Usyk by one point as if that meant it could've gone either way. The Ref saved him and gave him a long count, Fury was unconscious while standing, don't try to make it sound closer than it was.
usyk really whacked that bum out.
The fight wasnt even that close, it was definitely competitive, but I give fury four rounds, and that's the most i can give him. The commentators didnt help with their ridiculously Tyson Fury biase, they kept praising fury for hitting Usyks gloves. The stats seem to back up what I seen in the fight, and that was Usyk was hitting fury with scoring shots, and fury was just pawing his glove out towards Usyk half the time, and people actually thought he was scoring points doing that😮.
Fury never beat anyone who could box. As a heavyweight, Usyk is not really that great. He’s solid, but contrary to guys like Fury and Wilder, he is a student of the sport and stays focused and disciplined.
Usyk is an olympic gold medalist bro, hes not some 'student' hes the professor level
Fury and Wilder received permanent damage from each other in their trilogy. Father time has compounded Wilder's decline as well. It's time for him to retire. Fury has lost his chin from those Wilder knockdowns.
Just don't become a member of the Joshua hype machine either! He's no good either! Usyk is the cream of the division. Both his fights with AJ were blowouts, as was his win over Fury and the biased commentators covering the match. I scored it 117-111 for Usyk.
We should just be glad neither one of these master class cherry pickers didn't retire before getting exposed.. otherwise, we'd never hear the end of it
Karma works in mysterious ways
100%
Bro preach da ting. I agree with you 100%
Wilder got exposed by cherry picking Fury. Are you lot slow or something 🤔
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The WBC have a lot to answer for as well. They gave them a free pass to fight nobody's
That's every belt organization mate.
No, not every belt organization. IBF are looking to strip Usyk of that belt when he only just won it less than a month ago. They did the interim bout literally a week or two after Usyk/Fury.
@@MartialArtsNk Every belt has been up for unification apart from the WBC. First Vitali was given exemption not to unify against his brother and since then Wilder then Fury held that belt hostage. It was only because the Saudi's broke the bank and paid the ransom that it was put up for unification. The WBC are guilty as charged
@@MartialArtsNkexcept IBF
Exactly the rules state of your a belt holder you have to fight minimum 2 mandatory challengers a year! So fury owes us 7 of those he only faught one which was Whyte! And wilder NEVER faught a number one contender! They even gave fury 12 months once "retired" to decide if he would come back before taking the belt! It's a fucking joke!
It's crazy how AJ was at ringside to watch both guys that froze him out of undisputed get beat up back to back. One got beaten back to new year's even while the other got beaten that he spun around like a ferris wheel.
AJ was hanging on for dear life in the 12 round of his first fight against Usyk. And lost again in the rematch. At the end of the day, Fury only lost to the same guy, AJ lost to twice so their both below Usyk and it's all irrelevant anyway.
@@lyrickoner AJ went into the Usyk fights with no fear though, Fury ducked, dodged, twirled and whirled away from Usyk he even got more weeks of training due to his 'cut' and still got the breaks beat off of him. Not to mention AJ was coming off of a points over Ruiz and that vicious KO he got from Ruiz took his soul so to speak. Whereas Fury was undefeated.
@@Dionysus-Reality
This. Everyone forgets Fury faked a cut to get more weeks to prepare and get into shape, and he still lost.
@@soundwavesuperior28howd he fake a cut when there's literal video evidence of it happening mid sparring?? Internet clowns say anything
@@888thawk 240p blurry video in 2024 as proof? We've all witnessed on May 18th why Fury ducked and stalled for years and staged his own injury. Internet clowns say anything.
If it wasn't for the Saudi's, Fury would still be avoiding Usyk & AJ
And all the Fury fans would still be banging on how great Wilder was, Wilder's never been any good, plenty past heavyweights have taken far more punishment than him and came back and won titles back (Ali, Lewis, Mike Tyson)
Lewis didn't absorb sustained beatings in his losses. They were one punch knock outs. The worst continual battering I've seen Lewis take was in his victory over Ray Mercer.
@HopyHop1
He took many sustained beatings in his wins leading up to his loses.
@HopyHop1
Zeljko Mavrovic, Evander Holyfield x2, and David Tua all ruffed up Lewis worse than what Fury did to Wilder and them three boxers would've have beat Fury & Wilder with ease. You'll have to do real research before even trying to debunk me buddy 👍
One trick pony bum wilder and pillow fist fury are the biggest bums in the heavyweight division ffs 😂😂😂
@@andymcnab2.0Bruno gave Lewis a bad night as well.
There is nothing more exciting than to see a middleweight dog walk a super heavyweight.
I guess you could say these were 2 fighters who both made each other look good and tried to sell it to the fans that "fury's the greatest","wilder's the second best" and AJ's irrelevant.
@KwonJasperethes definitely not mediocre but Klitschko was over 40 years old when fury beat him, so it's not like he beat a prime Klitschko, but I give him credit for having the balls to doing it.
@KwonJasperet I think you are the casual, Vlad was way past his prime at 40 year old when fury fought him and it was one of the most boring fights ever where fury hugged and clinched his way to a not so clear a victory. At least joshua knocked vlad out. If it were not for furys size and reach he beats nobody. FACT
I'd say Wilder is a mediocre fighter with some power and Fury is a really good fighter.
Neither of them is great though.
Imagine putting them in an era with Ali, Holyfield, Foreman, prime Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis.
They'd probably be number 8 and number 9 in the charts and I'm being generous.
But again I'm just a random UA-cam commenter, what do I know?
@@stomingaben Was that era that great or was it just exciting as the guys were all evenly matched like Fury and Wilder are? Why have so few Americans been relevant in the heavyweight division since more Eastern European fighters started turning pro?
@KwonJasperet Yes against the same cherry picked fighters Fury and Wilder have taken since. Fury took zero risks against a 40 year old and got behind his jab and bored his way to the win. He's better than WIlder and probably among the top 10 in the World but nowhere near elite , he's fought precisely 1 (Usyk) of the Worlds top 10 HWs on Boxrec so doesnt deserve that title , "kiddo".
They spent their prime years creating an image that wasn’t absolutely warranted; Deontay winders being the baddest man on the planet and Tyson Fury being the best ever. They both didn’t do enough to be considered either. But they underestimated what era they both are in where there are a large number of top contenders and boogeymen. So really and truly these losses aren’t surprising, only surprising to those who believed the hype bout these two men.
Two media hype heavyweights.
Second that mate 👍👍👍
Add joshua to the list also
@@lyrickoner nope
@@CarlosRerrie Yes
They wasted 3 whole fucking years of the division for their stupid trilogy. The 2nd fight was February 2020, their 3rd fight was October 2021. That was nearly 2 years gap of them doing absolutely nothing and not allowing anyone else to fight them. In between the 1st and 2nd fight they fought absolutely nobodies as well where wilder recycled ortiz. We could have seen so many matchups from 2018-2021 instead of their trilogy
I blame the media as well as those two fighters. They kept him at the top by constantly agreeing with fury every time he made his ridiculous claims.
For all their other faults the Saudis have cleaned up the boxing rankings and all it took was boatloads of cash.
What are their faults??
@@youngerudit2524 Closed shop, corrupt club.
@@youngerudit2524 Copious amounts of slave labor in the country to name one
@@ThePhazonMonado LOL. That’s interestingly funny. Where are you from? Please don’t be from england or the US…try to make your comment make sense a little bit,not too much paradox
@@ThePhazonMonadoHow do you have the front to criticise the Saudi government when your own country literally massacred a million innocent Iraqi women and children just so they could steal their countries oil and lie about Wmd's ?.
This is a fact. For years Wikder and Fury weaponised the fact that AJ didn’t really trash talk that much and basically made a silent agreement to just bamboozle the world into thinking they were #1 and #2 and that AJ was chinny and was cherry picking when in reality both Tyson and wilder were doing the EXACT thing they were accusing Joshua off. The ring is the circle of truth n there was only so many times you can lie without backing it up. Fury the defensive wizard got plastered around the ring by a cruiserweight who was meant to be easy work. N wilders been exposed for what he always was a crude hard hitting puncher. There was a reason Fury targeted wilder immediately after coming off a coke binge im just so glad the world is waking up and the truth has been revealed. This day was always coming there was no avoiding it.
mate Fury an Wilder are average in history but the best around in our time AJ's shite let's tell the truth.
@@ajvindiesel8517they’re not the best of ANYTHING. Both FAR inferior to Aj which is why they teamed up to make him look bad…LOL. Also why Aj makes their common opponents look like children.
@@youngerudit2524think you'll find its AJ with the glass jaw left reeling v Klitchko, Ruiz, Whyte and Usyk. Fury took a bomb from Wilder and Usyk and still finished the strongest.
just remind me how many losses AJs had? "Still learning bruv...100%....100%..." he doesn't half talk shit, bad loser too
@@ajvindiesel8517aj got up and ko vlad, beat ruiz in the rematch and never got wobbled like fury did against usyk, if you say wilder was 2nd best then tell me who he beat to earn that?
Wilder was a protected fighter. I always said he would lose badly as soon as he stepped up against the better fighters.
Neither Fury nor Wilder would even have been known in the 70, 80 and 90ties and would have been extremely honoured if they were allowed to be sparring partners for some of the then greats.
It's tough to be the "greatest of all times heavyweights" Fury🤣😂LOL, having fought nobodies and having received a hiding from the novice Ngannou, been dropped as well and made to look like he just got out of a car crash.
And then getting a hiding from "a little ugly man, sausage, gap-toothed rabbit middleweight, who did not run, run, run" Usyk, who allowed the referee to save Fury from a total knock out.
That fight was "one class too far" for Fury.
And as I had commented some years ago already, now we all know it and have seen what good and excellent boxing looks like.
What always annoyed me was the lack of questioning of Fury and Wilder's resume.
Compared to the other top heavyweights, their resumes are thin of top level opponents. Yet the level of opposition they had fought was not analysed to the same degree as the opponents Joshua, Whyte, even Parker were fighting.
Mate, please wash your mouth with soap, like what the f is this supposed to be? Whyte? Heck Fury has a top 3 resume at HW atm as bad as it is, but Whyte?
Whyte barely fought anybody legit, and got easily dominated by Fury. Whyte is a bigger cherry picker than Fury is and that's saying something. Well perhaps not if we consider his low level, he fought competition who are more likely to beat him than Fury cause he was that low level.
Parker meanwhile has more gifted wins than any other top 50 HW today, by far.
And who hasn't questioned and ridiculed Fury's and Wilder's resumes?
@@MartialArtsNk Whyte fought and beat three world champions. Browne, Parker, Povetkin, fought Fury and Joshua and unbeaten fighters like Rivas, beat Helenius who was top 10 at that time,Chisora twice. Ur comment shows u havent got a clue of the landscape of boxing.
@@suchasin Son, please don't cope and educate yourself.
Browne and Povetkin World Champs.... Never once in their life.
They held the WBA "Regular" Belt which means fook all. Now Povetkin we can claim should have won vs Wladimir Klitschko via DQ, but Browne? Come on....
And Helenius who was top 10 at that time? Son the only time Helenius was "considered" top 10 is when he was coming off 2 wins vs Kownacki, when Wilder 1st round KOd him.
Rivas has proven himself to be sort of a bum and the judge saved Whyte for the last 3 rounds vs Rivas.
Chisora he lost to. In the rematch it was close, till the ref deducted a point and then Chisora panicked, risked it and got KOd.
And Parker has so many gifted decisions, even vs a freaking bum like Junior Fa at that time, even his WBO title vs Ruiz, I don't rate that win where Whyte barely survived.
@@suchasin Heck you casuals.
You probably just went on google wikipedia, read his resume and came back to try to look smart.
You got a lot to learn.
And lets not even talk about all the guys Whyte ducked like Wilder and Ortiz. Even Joshua when Joshua had 3 belts.
Whyte was more than happy to fight Joshua the first time (since he stopped him in the amateurs once), but wasn't looking forward to a rematch after.
@@MartialArtsNk U can have your opinion and try to enforce it by callinmg others u dont agree casuals but I am not one of those as I watch all fights be that day or night and i also have an opinion on wether the matchmaking was fair or to pad someones record and I also have an opinion on the decisions of certyain fights..be that as it may facts are facts.
Agree with all your points, and on the flip side Usyk has always wanted all the smoke and avoids nobody
Same with Joseph Parker
@@ArranVidParker usyk would be an interesting fight tbh
They both tried to make AJ look so bad but inadvertently made him look good with they’re performances lol.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought Tyson fury’s technique is goofy.
Goofy alright, had poor punch technique, no power, and has no defence! His defence of stepping back putting his head up in the air 🤷 and they want you to beleive he is great because he beat a basketball player who lacks the basics of boxing has no footwork, always off balance, can't punch and has Fury's leaky defence!
Fury's technique never had to be good to win his fights because his freakish height, reach, hand-speed and movement would always make up for how weak and awkward his punches were. When Fury went up against Usyk who was faster than him and was able to nullify his height and reach, Fury's lazy technique really showed.
"lazy", is a good way to describe it. Fury's height and reach and overall size are what seperated him from most orher heavyweights. It reallly wasnt that he was a great boxer who happened to just be unusually big, because, just like Deontay Wilder, how often did he have to prove it against great fighters? Where are all the ex champions on his record whose records demonstrate how great he is because he beat them? Where are Fury's Ali's, Frazier's Foreman's, Norton's, and even younger fighters like Holmes or Lyle or others who threaten the reign of long reigning champions?
His awkward movements and long reach make it hard to gather his chin. And he can take a punch. He can be fast and powerful. Usyk found a way to stun him, allowing an onslaught. ❤
Wilder and fury are 2 cheeks of the same arse
They both got spanked too!
😂😂😂😂
Fury's problem is he's lazy and over rates himself. If you call yourself "The Baddest Man on the Planet", "The Greatest Heavyweight of All Time", and claim "No man born from his mother can beat me", etc. Where do you go and what do you now say after you've been beaten up by a pumped up middleweight?
I’ve been saying this for the past 2 years. Frank Warren praised Wilder’s 6 year reign as champion and said he’s one of the generation greats. Bollocks, had he fought credible opponents earlier in his career he’d have been found out years ago. He’s saying that to add weight to Fury’s legacy, good riddance to the lot of them.
You know what used car salesman are like "it runs like a dream..."
God bless you my brother 🙏 Fury fans boys have been so full of them selves I started to wonder if I was the only one seeing thru fury and Wilder? Online they would bully and insult you if you dare criticize fury or Wilder
Wilder was, at best, a protected champion who faltered whenever he stepped up in competition. Let's not pretend he lost to a young, prime heavyweight; Zhang is 41 years old and did not look particularly impressive himself. Fury deceived the public by fighting Wilder and proclaiming that they were the two best heavyweights. I've been saying since 2019 that Fury is overrated, and recent events have proven that to be true.
That Zhang power and timing is elite though even still at 41. It's a shame his career didn't get up to speed a decade ago as he seems to have all the talent an extremely old boxer could hope for.
Just between you and me, I'd kind of like to see Zhang vs Fury. Call it "the battle of the beef" or somewhat...
@hoi-polloi1863 could be possible I just feel like Fury's self perceived market value is going to prohibit him fighting anyone other than AJ or his already guaranteed rematch with Usyk
@@CosmicCosmo1 Yah, that's a good point. Well, a guy can dream... ;D
@hoi-polloi1863 Fury certainly one of the biggest wankers in boxing history. He bluffs his way to the top then won't fight anybody until absolutely forced to for 100 million. He was worse than Mayweather. Let's pray he doesn't win the rematch and hold the belts hostage another 5 years
I Absolutely, Concur with your sentiments.
I was a wilder fan but when I started seeing that he wasn't disciplined & didn't take training seriously & try to get better, that's when I began to see him as a fraud along with fury. Look at those resumes, it's a joke!
Took Wilder 29 fights to face a top 100 opponent. Padded resume. Exciting to watch though.
agree 100% with these points great video subbed
Thanks for the sub!
usyk is the only guy i wouldnt mind seeing him retiring with an unbeaten record because he is ready and willing to fight anyone. Fury would have ran his mouth and made sure he doesnt fight thegood guys in an effort to protect his record
Exactly what I've been saying for years my argument is always who have either fighter beaten
Both of em have the most padded records of all time. Neither of them are in my top ten of all time heavyweights.
great vid ta,100% spot on
The truth is, usyk and Joshua are the best of this generation. And everyday it's more clear. Wilder and fury were balloons waiting to be popped. Fury vs usyk undisputed fight was never going to happen knowing how corrupt the wbc is letting fury fight MMA fighters and the Derek chisoras of the world. The only reason it happened was because his Excellency Turki shoved more than 100 million down fury's throat. Through the entire promotion and even before the fight, fury looked unsure of himself because he knew he was going against the best this time and it was not going to be easy against the "middleweight."
Jo Parker took Wilder soul. After Fury trilogy he was second best heavyweight of the world.
@@ВасилийИванов-ю3ю Wilder's best win is 40+ year old Ortiz. How could he be the second heavyweight in the world? Stop it.
@@meowmeow1338 it is sarcasm/
Usyk was actually a middleweight and lost to Shawn Porter in the amateurs.
@@Joe-oo3wr Then beat all current heavyweights 😁 Oh and the ameateurs dont count.
I could add a Lot more to it but it's a bit pointless in light of the Fact that EVERYTHING you said is 100% True. But to sum it up in one simple sentence :
*_"Tyson Fury & Deontay Wilder Finally Changed Lanes and they Both got Found Out...!"_*
Agreed 100% a joy these two cherry picker belt holders are gone, great in hindsight Dubois gave Usyk a low blow and Fury detected a weakness
Fury's only real accomplishment was catching old Klitchko flat footed and it turns out he was roided to his gills and received a 3 year ban. Fury the fraud. Wilder was a more obvious fraud all along though.
Makes you wonder if Usyk intentionally pretended like he was hurt to make Fury come out, quite a big possibility.
Though then again could just be Dubois being dangerous enough for that, he exposed Hrgovic badly just now, a guy who went the distance with Zhang.
@MartialArtsNk Are you talking about that perfect body shot that Dubois landed with full power and torque against Usyk? That would have knocked out anybody, I wouldn't read too much into it.
@@CosmicCosmo1 Nothing perfect about it, it was right on the bladder.
If it was perfect Usyk wouldn't have gotten up. But yeah quite possible it's legit, after all Dubois can crack.
@@MartialArtsNk It took Usyk 5 minutes to get up. How much more deadly of a shot can you ask for to the body?
This is a good video, i agree with you that they've had it coming for some time now.
How low the mighty have fallen, these two looked supreme just a short time ago. A great shake up has occurred in this world beyond boxing, Karma is real brother.
This was very good. very good. Spot on analysis.
Fury is seriously overrated. Let’s look at the facts:
1. Struggled with Wallin: Fury barely made it past Otto Wallin. That fight exposed a lot of his weaknesses. AJ beat him easily.
2. Knocked out by Usyk: Usyk knocked out Fury and he was saved by the referee. That says a lot about his durability.
3. Wilder Trilogy: Sure, he fought Wilder three times, but he got dropped multiple times. Now, Wilder’s been embarrassed by the likes of Joseph Parker and Zhilei Zhang. It just shows Wilder’s not as great as people think, and Fury struggling with him looks even worse
4.Questionable Opponents: Wilder has never really fought anyone of note, and Fury has been going life and death with opponents that AJ easily handled, like Ngannou. Fury’s been dropped more times than I can count, which is insane for someone touted as the best.
In conclusion, Fury’s record and performances don’t justify the hype. AJ and Usyk have shown they’re in a different league. The constant praise for Fury needs a reality check. Fury didn’t rematch Vlad, it was a stinker of a fight. Wilders career was a joke, he can’t box and fought no one.
1. Wallin lost a UD, wasn’t remotely a close fight, Wallin had 2 good rounds out of 12
2. Aj got stopped by Usyk in the first fight, he’s corner threw in the towel and the bell was rung early for some weird reason
3. Fury fought Wilder at his Wilders prime, the others fought Wilder after he was KO’d twice. And Fury at his best beat Wilder very easily in the second fight
4. AJ’s has only beaten opponents easily against fighters Fury didn’t take seriously. Fury had a much easier time against klitschko and Whyte
5. Fury was klitschko’s mandatory challenger so klitschko didn’t deserve a rematch especially with how easily he lost
@@agnikaineverdies7646 RE points 1 and 2:
1: You're right that Fury dominated the fight in terms of rounds won, but he should've suffered a TKO stoppage on account of the cut he had. Blood was gushing into his eye all fight, he was constantly pawing at it/wiping blood away, and it looked worse than both of the Hrgovic cuts we saw this past weekend that got Hrgovic stopped. So it's only by the ringside physician's blessing that Fury was allowed to continue (gotta get that big-money Deontay fight to happen).
2: AJ wasn't close to being stopped at all, it only looks that way to the naked eye without actually seeing things properly. Slow it down adn you can see that Usyk missed about 11 straight punches at the end due to AJ slipping them, he only landed the opening punches of the salvo and was then hitting air. AJ's corner also weren't getting ready to throw the towel in, if you look at them in the "behind the scenes" video of the fight when you see the towel waving you can see that they're actually celebrating, as shown with one of his cornermen, right next to the towel, clapping. They were applauding AJ for making Usyk miss which they could see from their angle and celebrating the end of a fight they thought he won. And for the timer, it wasn't some kind of ploy to save AJ or whatever people think, the Sky broadcast timer was off. Watch the start of the round, the bell goes but then the ref brings them back to make them touch gloves, then they start fighting; the Sky broadcast incorrectly started the timer from there vs the ringside timer starting from when the bell went.
it was the classic you know what, two big man, 2 of the tallest of the divsion, one american, other british and other differences, it was easy to convince people they are the best heavyweights at the time honestly, i fell into the trap, their face offs, their fights, how iconic they were, but turns out there is Anthony johusa, usyk, zhang, parker and others like dubois.
Dubois is a dirty pos. He will not be given the license to foul A side Joshua and will be exposed again for the nobody quitter he is
Imagine me,a guy who moved to the US,where they meticulously built this false narrative from scratch,RIGHT in time for this saga to start…only during the last year or so that I’m realizing how bad we were conned.
So glad i wasnt alone in my thinking all these years.
There's something about British acerbicness that just hits different. You weren't wrong in anything you said, but you did call it a rant. You did sound salty as hell, but this rant was very well thought out and intelligent.
Also, I kind of wanted to feel sorry for Deontay going out the way he has. He sounded so defeated in the past few press conferences. Then I remember how he treated Mark Breland...
🤣 good point, i was reading this and thinking yeah i sort of feel sorry for him a bit too, then you reminded me of the breland thing and yeah, fk this guy im glad he went out like this.
ayahuasca is not what its cracked up to be. These athletes need to stay of drugs
100% agree - well said. The foul mouth Fury’s were on the verge of destroying boxing with their dodging and bluster. I used to follow Tyson but was so happy that a proper champion beat him.
Wilder was always a hype job. When folks have to fall back on Ortiz being "elite" you know they are stretching to pas his legacy. Hype job GONE!
I'm glad that someone finally said it. Your video title and the content are quite accurate. Great job! I agree that they finally got what they deserve for intentionally freezing out other boxers, especially AJ.
Many thanks!
Absolutely spot on. Karma came looking for those charlatans
You've earned a sub!!
Everything is bang on. Mayweather is the reason for a lot of these boxers trying to navigate particular fights. Long may Saudi continue!!
I feel bad for Joshua. I think he could have picked up the undisputed against Wilder years ago and looked really good doing it. If Fury was still to come back to fight AJ I think he'd have looked good beating him too.
Finally FACTS!!!!!
Respect for this video Outmatch, the title seemed like it was gonna be just silly Wilder/Fury hate but this was a very well considered and presented video with compelling arguments especially regarding the standing of Fury and Wilder because of their trilogy. Always frustrated me how they sold Fury and Wilder as No1 and 2 because they only fought each other
Great vid, I've always though this.
100%. Well put
The only proper end to the Usyk v Fury fight was for Fury to have been stopped. He was hammered into clown land.
Pure FACTS!!!!
Share your sentiments completely. 👌
Atleast they both finally got found out, imagine if his double supreme Excellency Mr Turkey didn't get involved & they retired with the illusion in tact. 🤦♂️🤣
Fantastic analysis. Couldn't have put it any better.
A good big one will always beat a good little one...... usyk proved we haven't any good big ones🤷♂️
All you have said makes perfect sense. I still remember the Tyson Fury and Wilder fans making it seem like thses two frauds were in fact the best heavyweight boxers of all time! Relegating AJ especially after his 1st loss to Ruiz. Thank goodness a truly worthy champion now holds the belts! Tyson Fury and Wilder were basically deluding the boxing fanbase into believing they were number 1 and 2 content with just holding the WBC belt all while AJ was trying to unify. Their toxic fans defended their delusional champs with all their hypocritical might! Karma is a bitch!
I'd wager those who gave lip service to bs that these 2 could be mentioned in 'all time' status think time began in 2015 and if you even mentioned someone as recent as Klitschko their whole memory bank would start to crash. Mention the 20th century and they would probably start frothing at the mouth trying to process the concept of a time period exceeding ten years let alone be able to reel off the names and legacies of great heavyweights of the past.
Usyk is the best boxer of this Era!!! 💯
Good video man I loved the title and picture. I feel the same way!
True words spoken 💯
The WBC allowed them to keep the belt hostage.
No coincidence that it was the WBC judge that had Fury beating Usyk.
Have to agree, the disrespect these two have shown to AJ and BOXING fans, KARMA 💯
Absolutely, spot on. I couldn't have said it better 👌👏👏👏👏
Then: Gypsy King
Now gypsy no belt !!
According to teddy Atlas the definition of a great fighter is a fighter who always finds a way to win like Ali v Forman , holyfield v iron mike , iron mike vs Duglus who couldn't find a way to win , Holyfield was first elite Iron Mike fought, Ali first elite Forman fought , now Usyke first elite fury faced and couldn't find a way. Fury very good fighter but not elite, not great
Underdog who have the Potential to overcome most Disadvantages.
Not very good, middle to average.
It was his hight and weight that let him win against mediocre opponents, his holding, clinching, pushing, shoving, hitting with open gloves and open inside palms, holding behind the neck while hitting uppercuts at the same time and all the other semi-legal tricks he always got away with, but certainly not good or brilliant or excellent boxing.
That we were shown by Usyk recently.
As a Wilder fan I saw it coming, I never saw him as a great skill wise. But he was entertaining and he never gave us a boring fight, he never aimed for a decision and his knockouts were electric. When he lost, he went out on his shield, all he had was his right hand and he almost made undisputed with it.
Great narrative mate I thoroughly agree.
Who out of these 5 all time "Greatest Prime Heavyweights" does Fury or Wilder beat ?
(1) Ike Ibeabuci
(2) Lennox Lewis
(3) George Foreman
(4) Vitali Klitchko
(5) Larry Holmes
How about we go with zero !
Well said! Thank you.
i agree they deserved this. both guys drive me insane with their idiocy, i couldnt listen to interviews with them because the level of bs annoyed me. i went from someone who would watch channels like IFL, Boxsoci etc to only watching channels like this, hatman, gman, ade etc because i just cant deal with the level of nonsense coming form the fight teams. and that is almost entirely centred around tyson fury and wilder/pbc.
You don't watch the YB? Lol
It's been 10 years!
It was far too long!!
The Smoke & Mirrors genious’ 😂😂😂
Very good video. THE TRUTH!
I've never celebrated so much as when Usyk defeated Fury.
That HAD to happen for the good of the sport. For the good of humanity!!
I truly believe that good will always triumph over evil 🙂
Your comments are right on target. I’m looking forward to the rematch. Big Usyk fan here. I’d also love to see Joshua vs Fury, but may never happen.
Speaking 100% facts bro 💯
Nobody should get paid 100 million a fight. It went from grit to grift!
Agree 100%......and we all forgot the Wilder Helenius joke....common !
Well said.
All I can say is I totally agree with all you've just said, good video 🥊🥊💯🇬🇧
Fitting video title.👍💯
Appreciate this one m8!
I knew exactly what Luke was nearly 9 YEARS AGO! After he ducked the Wlad rematch!
Although it was inevitable...
For a minute there....😊👍✌️
2 cheeks of the same ar5e.
They're 2 cheeks of my bum. My left buttcheek says 'BUM SQUAAAAAADDDDD!!!!!!' and my right buttcheek says, 'I AM THE GYPSY KING!!!"
😂😂
The drama behind the Joshua-Fury-Wilder saga has been really eye opening since December. The non-casuals knew years ago that Joshua was the real deal out of the 3.
Usyk winning only restores things if he wins the rematch. He should have retired. He won 8-9 rounds against fury with a knockdown and got a split decision and the 2 judges that gave it to him had it way too close. The ref took a legendary moment away from everyone by stopping Usyk from landing the last blow in the 9th. On top of all that Fury is still a good boxer and always dangerous and had moments in that right even if he didn’t win a lot of rounds. They’re going to rob him for real this time lol.
Point is if he loses in the rematch fairly or not we’re back to how it was and even worse cause Fury will say he got robbed in the first fight and proved it in the second.
Usyk is A side now. Fury and Wilders exposed, boxing establishment knows Fury Will retire if wins the rematch and don't fight AJ.
Fury will most likely not take the return fight and would lose next time as well, if not worse than in their first fight
Am a fan of both. Their trilogy was great but well said. They had it coming both of them.
I think the constant ducking comes from a too-deep fixation on "protecting the zero'. I'd like to see an Elo rating system like in chess... "The system uses a number to represent each player's Elo rating, which is based on their results from previous rated games. After each game, the winner takes points from the loser, and the difference in ratings between the two players determines how many points are gained or lost"
This just creates something called ladder anxiety.
The churning is done..we have an undisputed champ..the cream has risen to the top...both these guys have insufferable egos n totally deserve their losses.
Damn! Bro, I love your analytical prowess and command of English. Nailed it from start to finish. Got to subscribe for more videos like this.
Much appreciated 👌🏽
I would hardly call the Fury/Usyk fight a 'beating'. It was a close good fight. Wilder got an ass beating tho.
Pretend it was a draw, then look at which fighter had the best single Rd of those 6 a piece.
@@colnixon8989 Uysk won but it was a close fight. The knockdown is what sealed it. I feel like the 2nd fight could be just as close or even a Fury win.
@@gunn25 not even close, unless you were paying someone to make it look like that!... loyalty is also a cheap sell.
Thank you, Sir...great Video
Good video, thank you.
Glad you liked it!
@@outmatchboxing6587 I think I have watched your videos for a long time!!! And I like all of your videos 🙂
Couldnt agree more bro. I was having this conversation with my mate just b4 the fury Usyk fight. Explaining that fury had only beaten Wilder who hadnt beaten anyone good and a Wladimir way past his prime. So glad to see Usyk win. He's a class act.
Here from Gman's video. Good video.
Cheers 👍🏽
100% mate. i'm subscribing!
This was a great summary of the state of boxing. You remind me of Hatman but in soft voice! But I will say this, I'm glad Usyk beat AJ and Fury, not because I dislike them, but because if AJ had beaten Usyk, people would criticise him and say well he beat a jumped up cruiserweight- he's nothing special! Now that he's beaten Fury, shows the world Usyk is the real deal, so hopefully AJ can fight him for a title and win after Usyk beats Fury for a 2nd time. AJ will go down as one of the ATG's imo if that happens. Which I'm pretty certain he can get the win this time. People have disrespected AJ for too long. But that's going to change.
Excellent video here, I have a friend who before the Usyk fight believed Fury’s hype, I told him Usyk was going to give him the fight of his life and turned out to be correct. Which all came from listening to the Brotherhood, as well as watching Usyk these last 6 or 7 years. Usyk is the special one Fury made himself out to be.
As for Wilder he was another that believed his own hype and lapped up what his fans put down in terms of conspiracies and ran with it. He made out that he was the most feared yet when top opposition come looking for him he was nowhere to be seen. Constantly making negotiations difficult aided and abetted by his team and We Be Crooks.
As they say karma is a bitch 🫡
I mean Was Mohammad Ali losing to Joe Frazier Karma? Also was Mike Tyson losing to James Buster Douglas Karma?
Quiz.... Who is the oddman out.... Ali, frazier, foreman, Lewis, holyfield, M, tyson, tyson fury, clue 6 are all time greats and 1 is a hyped up fraud,.
Very enjoyable ‘rant’! 👏🗣️
And yes. Actually respect AJ a lot more now that all is said and done.
Eddie Hearn might be a charming brit, but he is just as insidious and dishonest as the other promoters in boxing. Ruiz and even Usyk were massive underdogs against Joshua, and ultimately Fury put up a far more competitive fight against Usyk than Joshua. Hearn and Joshua's team deserve just as much blame for not making it happen against Wilder or Fury, they could have figured out a way.
Haha you're trying really hard to convince yourself to believe these lies 🤣 😂😂
I've always maintained that these two dossers are bums compared to those from the golden era. I've always respected Joshua because, out of the three of them, he was always the only one who respected boxing. I'm just glad that history will remember these two as above average boxers.
When your best win is Charlie Zelenoff 👀👀👀 was frustrating as a fan of the sport to watch the shit show the sport became when influencers would fight for clout over money really put the sport in a bad place and perspective that fighters don't want to fight. Saudi has done an amazing job putting these cards together actually restoring some of the credibility to the sport hope it continues
Hahaha, yes. Mentioned that to somebody yesterday, that was his greatest win. That "fight" has been my go to when arguing about Wilder's feeble, fragile and immature mindset. Wilder is a very petty minded imbecile. He is one, just one, level above Zelenoff in being delusional.