I bet they some how put Diesel or Kerosene in the wrong ground tank, I know the truck to tank nozzles are different for gas and diesel/kerosene so perhaps the tanker trailer had the wrong product in the wrong tank. My brother is a district manager for Hess and he says it does happen but not often. Since Kero and off road diesel are dyed red for ID and tax purposes I'm sure its road diesel. Be interesting to see the results if you send a sample to a lab. I don't think it's bad gas, it's not dark enough to be varnished gas which also has a very distinct smell and if you say it smells kinda like diesel then that's most likely the contamination as they smell nothing alike plus vanished gas wouldn't be oily, more likely to leave a thin sticky residue
Sounds like there isn't anything in place to prevent someone from making mistakes. Wrong gas is lying, wrong fuel is a whole different level. If this was a fuel injection vehicle, this would be a terrible expirience - horrible to deal with and would have clogged the cats and fouled many sensors
You know how you can’t put the nozzle of the diesel pump, into the filler neck of the gas tank of your gasoline powered vehicle? It would seem to me that there should be the same kind of thing for the tankers that fill the underground gas station tanks. If so, then the so called “mix up” was and is, INTENTIONAL. They want us all in EV’s so we will be more controllable. Part of the “Great Reset” where we will “Own Nothing, And Be Happy” people need to come together along racial and class lines, and stand up to this crap.
I came to say the same thing. The guy who filled the tanks put diesel in the gas at the gas station. They probably switched to either a new supplier or a new truck driver who didn't know which tank was which and they didn't bother to ask the attendant or the attendant didn't know.
That is definitely diesel mixed in with gasoline, even though the pump didn't have diesel as an option. Last time that the gas station's 91 octane tank was filled, it was contaminated with diesel. either the tanker truck was improperly filled at the terminal or the delivery driver accidentally dispensed diesel into the premium unleaded tank. either way, the fuel station should be on the hook
@@mikeschneider5077 well and it also implies higher octane fuel is to blame, when the car actually needs 91 to run properly lol. A lot of automotive youtubers are clickbaiting without any remorse. Gotta get views...
@@frostbite1991 yep, and when I go back to main page I will tell UA-cam to 'Don't Recommend Channel' ... I do this with any clickbait lies in the titles and over-done thumbnails for babies that need tons of arrows or eye candy. If the title is true, then it is fine ... Rob Dahm would make clickbaity titles that come to fruition, because it is playing against actual fake titles like this one. I thumbs down before I watched because I know 91 octane cannot damage an engine unless it is supposed to run on race fuel, and they were going to have to earn it back off; I see they won't and get a perma-ban from my feed on top of it! Good days!!! :)
Gas stations are usually privately owned, and have a supplier contract. Think of them as a grocery store. Certainly they are on the hook for repairs, but they will just charge back the supplier. The error was either the delivery driver mixing tanks (which happens more then people think), or the truck was loaded wrong at the refinery. But certainly, from the consumers point of view, the station is liable .
After setting aside a sample for evidence, you can get rid of the mixture in the caddy either by putting it in an old diesel at about 25%, with the rest diesel, or old gas engines at about 5% with the rest gas. Maybe 10%. or use it like lighter fluid to kindle fires. Avoid new engines though as the old ones are more forgiving.
In flight school you're taught to visually inspect a sample of the gas in the tank before you start up the engine. 99% of the time you don't find water buildup or discoloration, but after seeing this it totally makes sense why you'd do this in a plane.
thing is, tanks at airports are ALWAYS clearly labeled and so are the trucks so this is almost never an issue but at a fuel station, if you dont know which hole gets what fuel, you end up with this issue
Planes have built-in drain points for each tank specifically for that purpose. Just push the small catch cup into the check valve and you get whatever is on the bottom of the tank. But I don't know anyone that checks the fuel coming out of the pump at the airport. We all just stick the nozzle in the tank and wince at the price. Here in Florida I almost always find some amount of water in the fuel. It's so humid. Maybe we should be more careful. Bad fuel accidents have happened.
Driving and enjoying a hotrod without perfect paint and little issues is truly nice! It's amazing how much I've learned fixing mechanical issues to keep it going.
This. Same thing happened to my sister's 2010 Navigator in 2011. Gas station delivery guy put diesel in the 87 octane tank. Strangely enough, I went to the same station about 30 minutes beforehand and bought a tank of 92 octane. My car (a 1984 Volvo Turbo wagon at the time) ran great. Her's, however, did not. She wound up limping it to the Ford dealer she bought it from a few months prior. Needed the tank drained, new lines, new injectors, etc. The whole thing. Gas station wound up paying for the repairs.
This happened to a friend of mine in West Palm Beach, Florida - there was water intrusion into the storage tank at the gas station, and it hydrolocked the engine in his 911. As well as two other high end cars, all broken down at the same block near the same gas station. Pro tip: if you own a gas station, don't sell bad fuel that trashes the engines in the cars of three attorneys.
Gas stations are supposed to take a daily reading (and record) water levels. That much water should be noticed real quick. Unless it was a catastrophic tank failure that is negligence and illegal. Most stations these days have electronic monitors but years ago we would take a water detecting paste and put it on the tank stick and drop it in. It would turn purple in contact with water and then you would record how many inches of water were in the bottom.
Hydrolocked the engine, eh? What did he do, pour a gallon of it down the intake? Hydrostatic lock is when there is so much liquid in the cylinder, that the piston tries to compress the compressible liquid in the cylinder.(Pascal's law) Have no doubt it damaged the fuel system or caused the piston rings to rust when the car sat unstarted for a while. Hydrolocked....... I have a doubt.
🤣🤣We used to put tranny fluid in our cleaning fluid tanks with the line leading into the carb then sit at a red light and pump it in, we'd smoke out the whole intersection, on the freeway it was treat if someone was tailgating
Grandad told me after running bad fuel or tuning up an old engine to slowly pour a rattle can cap of water down the carb while revving it up to 1500rpm or so. Cleans deposits off the valves & cylinders. Don't pour fast or you'll bend a valve or hydro lock the motor. Glad to see you got to keep her on the road!
The plugs should clean themselves like a self cleaning oven once burning normal gas. If they don't, try increasing heat with hotter plugs, more spark advance or plug foulers. The residual diesel should cool combustion and that should prevent knock as long as it's there, enabling you to burn 87 gas until you run it through. So try cheap gas and more advance and see if it spark knocks. if it does then set it back, but if not, it should clean the plugs for you and run better until the remaining diesel is gone; then put the timing back again.
Many years ago (when there was still leaded gasoline along with unleaded), I used to be a dispatcher for a fuel tanker line. All it takes is for a storage tank to be poorly marked and a tanker driver to not be paying attention for this to happen. On my last night working for the tanker line one of the drivers called in to tell me that he had dropped regular gasoline into an unleaded tank (which changes the unleaded gas to leaded). The terminal manager (my boss) was a nice guy, and I really hated to have to call him and tell him it was now his problem... but I had to get home to finish packing as we were moving 400 miles away in the morning!
I worked for a fuel truck repair shop for about 7 years from 2012 till 2019, and dispensing fuel into the wrong in ground tank is way more common than you would think, mostly due to inexperience on the delivery person's part.
Had a station here in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan that had bad fuel and damaged 47 vehicles. The station had to completely shut down and all systems replaced before they could operate again. This was over a 1 million dollar overhaul on top of what was paid out to fix the damaged vehicles!😮😮😮😮😅😅😊😊😊
Sucks that you spent all that money on a full tank hoping to haul some ass with that 91 only to get sacked. You still have a pretty positive attitude regardless. Good on you bro
There was a case in California where a fuel distributor was getting supply from scrapped cars, draining the tanks and re-selling the fuel to unsuspecting buyers.
There was a brand new station that had bad gas around me. They found some bad seals in their new system allowing for mixing of products, specifically the diesel and gasoline, as well as water getting in. The station came good for all repairs that were brought to their attention, including 3 engine replacements.
hi I used to be a towtruck driver , and one day I towed 7 different cars within 2 miles from a gas station where they all just fueled. The station paid for all the tow fees for all of them including fuelpumps and labor to fix
That carb cheater was an absolutely brilliant idea. So many people have great ideas but to see someone actually execute an idea is rare. Good on ya Luke!
Back around '90, my brother borrowed my '64 Falcon Sprint because his car broke down. To show his appreciation, he topped off the tank with diesel by mistake, so it was about 50/50 gas/ diesel. The car ran - but horribly, and trailed a smoke screen that would have made 007 envious. After I expressed my thoughts to him on the matter, I drained the tank, drained the Holley 600, blew the fuel line out from carb to tank, and filled it with mid grade. It smoked for 5 minutes, then cleared up and ran fine for years afterward.
I've been watching your videos for years, Luke. I have a MINT 5.0 H.O. sitting on an engine stand, ready to drop in. ECU, wiring harness, long flow headers, everything. Pulled it out of a 1988 Foxbody with 20K original miles. You're welcome to it, bro. I'll let you have it if you want it.
I've been watching for years as well ... love the way Luke is logical in what he does. Offering that motor to him is completely bad-ass of you bro and your generosity will be repaid to you somehow, someday 👍🍻😎
Exceptionally generous of you, I appreciate that a ton - I could never take that gem off your hands, that's one to keep tucked under your wing for a rainy day - in 2024, something like that is very difficult to come by 🙂
@ThunderHead289 It's yours if you want it. I live in Knoxville TN, and almost never drive my cars or trucks. I've been riding my motorcycles exclusively for years now. I got the engine with the intention of putting it in my 1990 Ranger, but I know me, and I probably won't ever get around to it. You, on the other hand, would probably be able to put it to use and make some good content in the process. Just let me know if you want it and it's yours. 🤘
I'm in the business, so here's my speculation: I wondered if the fuel had been in the gas station's storage tank too long, but the lack of evaporation looks like you got a belly full of diesel. I drive a fuel tanker truck. The hoses and fittings are compatible all around, so nothing physically prevents the wrong product going in the wrong tank, known as a 'mix', which is a very dirty word. There are strict procedures to follow to prevent this. All products have tags with particular shapes and color codes. Before loading, I make sure the tags on the truck match the product I'm loading. If you lift the lid on a gas station storage tank, you'll see the same color and shape coded tags. When I hook the delivery hose up I look at the tag on the truck, and on the tank I'm delivering to, and make sure they match, before opening any valves. As long as these procedures are followed, you will not get a mix. I'm guessing the tanker driver didn't look closely enough, or it's possible that the storage tank is mislabelled, but I doubt that. My speculation is that the tanker driver dropped a load of diesel into the premium unleaded tank. I've heard sad stories from the guy who trained me, and other drivers. These things are not supposed to happen, but sometimes they do. The wrong product will sometimes get loaded in the wrong compartment of the tanker, or get delivered to the wrong tank. When this happens, the storage tank needs to be sucked out, hopefully before customers filled their cars. This gets very expensive, and drivers have lost their jobs because of mixing. Luke, as you said, you have an old school lump of iron, and you can recover from this. Modern vehicles with high pressure fuel injection systems are very fussy, and can be destroyed this way, with bills in the tens of thousands. A friend of a friend let his son take the gas pickup out, and he filled it with diesel, resulting in an $11000 repair bill. Ouch. I'm in Canada, maybe American equipment is different in some ways. But to the best of my knowledge, it is absolutely possible that someone put diesel in the premium tank of that gas station. I wonder how they reacted to this... Hopefully someone took a sample to figure this out.
I'm also in Canada and had it happen to 2 of my vehicles a few years ago. Filled my wife's car the night before, and my truck in the morning. She made it to work, my truck died a few KM down the road. Hers wouldn't start after work. Apparently 70+ vehicles affected. First shop tried using methyl hydrate I think, but still ran like crap shortly after leaving. They didn't bill us anything and we then went to a...GM dealer 😞 Husky station's insurance reimburse us for $700 in repairs.
System sounds the same as ours from what i have observed when the tanker has been filling a station. our tankers look like the tags can be moved and changed allowing each compartment to be used for any fuel for example if going to diesel only truck stop all compartments are diesel
@@ratbag359 Yes, that's a good way to put it. Any compartment in the tanker can carry (mostly) any product, and can deliver (mostly) anywhere. The equipment needs to be flexible. Having trucks with fittings and hoses dedicated to only one product would be prohibitively expensive. So, as stated, check the tags!
Wow. That was terrible that you got stranded because of that! I was a victim of a possible diesel/gas mix in Louisiana right after one of the hurricanes. No idea if that was related or not, but gas was hard to find so there could have been a motive for them to cut the gas with diesel to have more to sell. Was driving my turbocharged Buick. It is low compression and has an indicator to show when detonation is occurring. The first sign of trouble was getting back on to the Interstate about 3 minutes after filling up. Had severe detonation with very mild acceleration. Drove very gently to avoid detonation. Noticed some white smoke and was concerned that oil was passing into the engine via the turbo, so I made one more stop and investigated for oil in the air hoses, but found none. The trip is normally 7 hours, so I had to refill once more before getting home. After the second refueling, I noticed the smoke was gone, and was able to apply more throttle without detonation. Very frustrating, but thankfully didn't damage my engine.
When I was in high school, a gas station erroneously put diesel into a regular 87 pump. They admitted their screwup and reimbursed anyone that was affected.
I use to haul gasoline and diesel for years. Seems like the driver dropped diesel in the premium tank by accident . The station should have caught that on their meter root system inside the store. That is an electric meter system that tells how much fuel is in the tanks. Man, what luck. Those underground tanks service more than one pump. I'm sure more people are getting the same stuff. No interlock. Goes straight in the tank . That was diesel mix.
The trailers here are setup to carry any fuel they have replaceable tags so up to the driver to check at each step. not sure about other country's setups.
@@monkeybarmonkeymanyes and no. For my fuel truck, we keep the compartments dedicated to either diesel or gasoline. While I will vary the amounts based upon what I'm delivering that day, I know I'm filling the three same compartments with diesel and the other two with gasoline and that never changes. That makes it easier to prevent accidents from happening, but it's still up to me to be sure I'm sending the right compartment into the right storage tank.
happened at my parent’s gas station… you get delivers sometimes after hours. Guy put diesel in the unleaded and unleaded in the diesel. Then he figured it out and changed the labels around on the fill ports. Half a day pumping the wrong fuel. Most of the gas cars were okay but all the milk trucks and other diesels were not. If the truck driver would have just said something it would have saved 80K in repair bills… plus all most all the milk guys never pumped there again…
Yeah, the tanker put the diesel into the wrong tank. Glad you figured that out and had no damage. Funny how your lady does not like to be on camera! Blessings to you guys from Texas!
UA-camrs make it seem very simple when they do it. But a lot of them have behind the scenes people to help out and don't tell you about that. A lot of kids are getting caught in that trap.
Delivery tanker driver f'd up. That was definitely diesel. I grew up in a family owned AMOCO in Cedar Falls 1984-95 and know who delivers to many places to this day, so I won't name drop. I ran Ultimate 93 octane until BP bought AMOCO late 90s/early 2000s and they took Ultimate down to 91. GOOD gas, regardless of the octane, won't go bad in underground tanks from little use during winter, in my experience. Change your oil, fresh plugs and it'll get rid of the piston carbon eventually. Much respect!!!
I've seen that 'yellow gas' in cars come off the tow truck many many times. Usually it's diesel or kerosene contaminated fuel, guy grabbed the wrong tank for a fill and either caught it part way then didn't tell anyone or didn't catch it at all. On fuel injected cars at least we just pump the tank empty, put in a few gallons of fresh fuel, purge the fuel lines, and try starting it. If it won't start we'll pull a couple plugs, wash the cylinder out with brake cleaner and air, then it'll fire on a couple cylinders and the rest of the engine will catch up after a few spins. Let it idle to warm up a few minutes then go drive it around to clear the rest out of the cylinders and once it's fully warmed up a few good 2nd gear pulls to clear the exhaust, tell the customer if the engine light comes on swing back by, you might end up needing a cat or O2 sensor but it's all looking good now. Of the say 15 I've seen only 2 or 3 ended up needing a cat which was probably borderline before.
I've followed you for awhile like your choice in cars and trucks. I got a 72 F-250 ,360,2bbl. 4spd, camper special with 9,000mi. For free in 83 I made it into a wrecker and put 220,000mi on it with only tires,belts,points, plugs, oil. Then put motor in another truck, and cab and front on a 69 4x4 shortened build. So it lives on as 2 trucks
I built a high compression Harley shovelhead years ago. On an interstate ride, it started running rough and vibrating. I aborted the trip, and headed home. After the next gas fill, it improved noticeably. Later that evening, I got gas again, at a service plaza on the FL turnpike. I could tell the difference as soon as I accelerated to get back on the turnpike. A significant loss of power, and a noticeable change in the sound of the exhaust. I babied it to the next service plaza, 45 miles down the road, and topped off the tank. It took over two gallons. Less than half the mpg I had gotten earlier that day with good gas. I suspect I got a high percentage of alcohol in the fill up.
Tell your wife she is a pleasant departure from your mug ha ha. Her personality is awesome and she is right about the sitting in the driveway revving the engine to check things out. “You car people” that she called you was hilarious. On a serious note, why not send the fuel you drained to a lab and have it analyzed then you will have your answers and maybe have info that will help others who had issues.
Had the same thing happen to me. My daily is an 06 Infiniti g35 that requires premium. Filled up at a smaller gas station outside of town and got about half a mile before the car just shut down. I thought the pump died but I cycled the key and could hear it. I checked the shrader valve on the rail and fuel came out that was super oily. I called the gas station from the side of the road. Sure enough they went out to test it and found a mixture of diesel. Where I got lucky is right there on the side of the road they called a tow truck for me. And after putting that car in the shop they paid to have the whole fuel system replaced. They actually thanked me for calling so quickly because they were able to have the tank drained the refilled with the proper fuel instead of having more motorists stranded, costing them tons of money.
Draining the tank out, blowing the fuel out of the lines, and then refilling with gasoline should fix the problem. I'd be sorely tempted to remove the exhaust from the manifold and run it for a few minutes so it didn't contaminate the O2 sensors and catalytic converters further than they already have been. Fuel injectors won't get real angry with you for running diesel through them, they'll clean up. Where you can get in trouble is your catalytic converters, O2 sensors, and spark plugs. It is a bunch of Labor to get rid of all that crap from your fuel system though. That's more expensive than parts.
I got bad gas in the middle of winter. I filled up on regular, I drove about 5 blocks in town to my job. When I came out 2 hrs later my tank and lines were frozen. 4 bottles of HEET, a salamander, and 3 hrs later we got it defrosted. We drained the tank and found it was STILL half WATER!!! You bet I went back to that station and yelled at them for about 20 minutes, with the mechanic standing there with me. They refunded my $$ and shut the regular gas pumps down to treat the tanks. They told me afterwards, they lost half their volume by removing the water from the tanks. At the time, I worked as a school bus driver. The bus mechanic is who helped me get going again, and he allowed me to use the company pickup to go get fresh gas for my car.
I once filled my 69 Chevelle and ended up with about a 50/50 gas diesel mix from it. The engine acted up after a mile and was smoking, I knew from the smell what happened and that if I shut it off I would not make it home. I drove it 30 miles at 75% throttle and 50 mph, but I made it. New plugs, fresh gas in the system, ran like a champ. Running diesel in a gas car can lubricate everything and usually won't start, but rarely harms anything since it won't burn well without compression. But gas in a diesel, destruction is imminent. I know you probably know all this, but in case your viewers might not. :) Glad you got it sorted.
You are definitely not the only one this has happened to lately. When I worked at an auto shop so about 7 or 8 months ago we had someone fill up at a gas station with 87 ( in a modern GDI engine) it did not fire at all, so after draining the gas and seeing it and a burn test, we suspected that tank at the station to be mixed with diesel. We had to drain the cars tank and do a similar thing so I can see this happening. Sorry that happened to you and that iconic car. I would call and explain it to that gas station and bring a sample and hopefully they correct it. Technically they are supposed to check gas tank samples with a wood stick on a regular basis and sounds likely they didn’t do that. Anyhow thanks for making a video about it! I always enjoy watching your channel!
$0.028/per mile - Respect, I love that car long time. I'm an old timer and a chemical engineer. Bad gas was and I guess is a thing. We were always cultured to fill up at a station with good throughput and to avoid filling up while the gas was being delivered (delivery stirs up solids and water). Back in the see through filter days I would look at the filter all the time and most engine flutters or coughs corresponded to shiat or water in the filter. As a Chem E I'm thinking diesel or aged polymerization products. You burn ethanol containing fuels (no respect) but I can't see a chemical pathway that leads to non evaporating fuel. The evaporation test you did was like a hillbillie boiling point curve (respect) and I really doubt that any gas, when delivered had enough unsaturated compounds to make that much polymer residual. So the most obvious answer (diesel) is probably it. An analysis will tell the tale. For what it's worth I do not like BP but that's based on their upstream operations. Final thought - I've shipped a lot of chemicals over the years. If you have a high spec product you have to pay extra for a cleaned tank - otherwise you can get a few gallons of the previous product if you are using a half-ass contractor. I've actually ordered up a tanker for a hydrocarbon load that still had wine fumes from the prior load. It's a long shot but it is remotely possible that gasoline was filled into a tanker that haul some sort of oil or gawd knows what. That car is awesome.
My brother got gas in the winter at a gas station when the temp was -10F. Had his truck running as he filled the tank. Engine stopped and it would not start. He called me and I towed it home and put it in the garage warmed it up and drained the tank. Got 5 gal of water out of it. Lol. You can get bad gas at a gas station.
In my experience with water in gas from station its usually due to people getting gas while truck is dropping fuel in main tank. Ive been told there is a certain amount of water in fuel tanks in ground due to condensation build up. When truck drops fuel specially on a low tank it stirs water in bottom and car pumps it. If there was no truck when you got gas then it was residual water left in pump and car before you got it too
Last year son filled up truck and went a couple miles til it died on side of road. Ended up towing home and drained fuel from carb and a sample from the fuel line and it was 1/2 water 1/2 gas. Ended up pumping out entire tank, had to rebuild carb from sucking in trash somehow to get it back. All from filling up.
A gas station I would stop at on the way home from work got busted purposely diluting their gas with water. I noticed my Jeep would run like garbage every time I went there and then it was on the news. (This was 25 years ago)
Hi uncle Luke! I am building tanks for gasstations over here in Germany. Here is mandatory a need for double wall tanks. The room in between is now more and more checked by a vacuum device. But back in the days it was usual filled with a control fluid named (over here in the EU) Glymin NF. The idea is, that a automaticly observed leak on the double wall will be detected. If the tank on the gasstation is rusted thru inside (what can happen surly), then the controlfluid mixes with the gasolin. The color should be the same greenyelloish like you shown. But maybe you do the things completely different in the states. I like your Maverick, its a cool piece. And big applause for your carbcheater. Very clever. Regards from Dresden
oh we have had bad gas bad diesel at fuel stations one tip my dad told us never ever get gas or fuel up the semi at fuel station were a tanker is refilling the station and it is a good advice that has served me well Thx Dad he is gone my dad but not his spirit he is always with me
Way back in the 80s, I worked at a Mobil gas station in the service bay. Some guy in his diesel truck put gas in his tank by accident. We drained his tank and I kept the fuel and ended up using the mixture in my Malibu. I used a couple of gallons per tank full and except for a tiny bit of smoke, it ran fine and I saved (back then it seemed like a lot) a couple of bucks per tank full!
I have gotten bad gas twice from stations, one of them happened to be in Iowa as well, in Davenport of of Interstate 80. In the Davenport one, the gas was loaded with rust and dirt. I was on the way to Vallejo, CA and luckily had an extra fuel filter so I could keep truckin'. I bought a bunch of filters at the auto parts store and ended up changing the fuel filter 6 times between Walcott, Iowa where it first gave me problems and Victoria, Tx. I traveled to Vallejo, CA then down to Bakersfield, CA and on to Laredo, TX before heading to Palatka, FL which is how I was in Victoria. I didn't have the time to stop and have the tank dropped, drained and cleaned until I got to Muncie, IN after Florida so I just kept changing the filter. I saved them all and cut them open later and they were completely gunked up inside.
A video about contaminated gas reminds me of a story. A junkyard near me used to sell recovered gas from junk cars. Now the junkers who bought the fuel knew it was contaminated with water even before going to buy it. One day, me and my father are leaving the yard and heading home. As we are leaving. We see a line of brand-new escalades driving into the yard. It's the executives checking to each yard in the area and doing a tour. Well, they get the bright idea to fill the tanks of those new escalades with junkyard gas. We heard from the people in the yard that all of those escalades made it out to the road before their engines seized up. It was hilarious.
Never get gas at a gas station while a semi is filling up their tanks. As they pump the gas underground, the water in the tank is mixing with the gas. It takes time for the water and gas mixed Together to separate out.
This is why stations up here in Michigan are Required by law to have water separation systems on all pumps! Have watched several stations being overhauled and seen the separation systems be installed. 😊
91 (no eth) gets more use in the winter only if there is a lot of snow (snowmobiles, snowblowers) and the putting diesel in the gas at the station is more common than you would think I hauled gas for over 35 years and it can happen at the delivery or at the terminal where its loaded
Put the suspect gas in a clear glass container and give it a swirl. If there's an oily contaminate it should settle out in the bottom. Testing the specific gravity of the fuel is one way but requires a graduated cylinder and hydrometer.
First time viewer. You are a shade tree mechanic of my own heart. Do what u need to do to keep the old iron rolling. A rusty bent and weathered runner is worth a dozen trailer queens that just sit around looking pretty. Cars and trucks were meant to be run.
Hi Luke, long time no see, then up pops the Maverick. That can only mean trouble - must watch. Like most of the others , you got dieseled. The way she died is typical of dieseling. Lots of smoke, your lucky you vehicle is over instrumented. That is what helped, with normal tuning the effect takes longer 'cos it thinks it's just a fuel delivery problem so pumps more in, it gets worse as it goes, round and round then usually just dies and wont start. I had a friend who picked up a brand new diesel car, went to fill up, and put full tank of petrol into it. He never lived that down. The car was pumped dry and I drove the vehicle for 120K+ over the next 3 yrs, and bought the car after lease ran out. Thanks for letting us see that it does happen! From UK.
Walmart ruined my 1978 401 Jeep. I got 9 gallons of diesel. I was able to get it drivable, but I never could get it to idle right. Finally sold it. Walmart would not help with the repair cost. I never leave a gas station without a receipt. This was back in 1994. My cost to drain oil. rebuilt carburetor, new plugs and filters. 900.00 bucks
Man, that's a bad ordeal but at least the damage turned out uncatastrophic, I bought a 73 Mercury Comet last month, I posted it in the FaceBook group, you and the Maverick were the inspiration. 🙂
You should take a sample to a lab and find out for sure AND talk to the Gas Supplier, It might help keep anyone else from having this problem. (Although by now, it is probably too late).
Having served in gas stations all my life, I was made aware that Ford made a model of Escort in the '80s that used diesel, I assume for export. Having filled the half empty tank with 87 octane, he fired it up and shut it down, informed me of the discrepancy and the owner had me dump the contents into the 87 octane tank which had recently been filled and, he said, would dilute the mix sufficiently to cause no adverse reactions. Incidentally, there WAS a Diesel Only sticker under the swell of the sheet metal, where, at 6'4", I was too tall to even see it. I surmise that the station had let the tank get rather empty before having to correct a similar incident. I'm glad to hear that all came out in your favor.
You're probably not the only customer. I'd check any local social media pages. **Edit: If anyone ever experiences this, call the station asap** Happened to me on 2 vehicles. Got gas the night before, went back with my other vehicle in the morning. She made it all the way to work, but mine died a few min later. Apparently 70+ vehicles were affected. Station had to pump their tank. Husky's insurance company compensated us for $700 in repairs. First shop tried fixing with methyl hydrate but that didn't work. They didn't charge us anything so we took it to a dealer. I hate dealerships but they drained both tanks and showed us the water.
I got water in North Carolina once!!! They got some of the worst fuel quality ever. I’ve driven all 48 in my vw tdi swapped caddy. Get fuel there once and it wouldn’t rev. It threw a rod 600 miles later. When that bottom end had fresher bearings- had been dead reliable to me for over a decade at that point. I drove up north for Xmas and my fuel froze solid. 2 years later in Washington it does daily commute duty with a -20f cold start no problem. Starts better than thunderbolts engine does at 60f😂
I've got a little handle and cable rigged up to the governor on my push mower so I can rev it for fun my neighbor thinks it stupid but it puts a smile on my face 😂
Having started off working in a full service gas station back in the very early 1980's, it does happen but usually a lot less then it use too. Fuel trucks usually have different connections on their hoses for diesel, as well as that the tanks in the ground are usually color coded on the lid and the tank cap. That still does not mean that truck drivers get it right, as a trucker who does not or has not run fuel tankers before do get it wrong sometimes. But I have seen one case where a truck driver who was making a fuel dump with a tanker, did accidentally drop a fuel hose into the holding tank and no one could figure out how he did it until the pump service pulled the hose out of the tank. Which they had to uncover the tank to remove the inlet to replace it after removing the hose. Turned out it was a hose off of an older truck that used smaller hoses, then what they use now.
I live in eastern IA, used to drive past Marshalltown monthly, the only time I have gotten bad gas in a car in 50+ years of driving was in that city. Probably just a coincidence, but I never stopped there for gas after that incident. Not as severe as your situation, at least we were able to limp home. Good information in the video!
I used to work at a Walmart years ago and their gas station had an issue once where the fuel put in their 91 tank was about 80% ethenol. People that filled up had their cars stalling out just minutes down the road. They ended up paying to fix all the cars.
@@dylanwinn3wrong. This happened to me in 2019 and the gas station company paid for all my repairs. I needed new fuel injectors and fuel pump, and they paid for a rental car. $2500 and gave me $100 in gift cards as well.
I feel like pumping gas is a gamble a lot of the time these days. At least in my neck of the woods. I've pumped water, diesel, red dye off a taxed pump, the list goes on.
Yea pumping diesel is even worse - never know how much biodiesel you are getting or at what temp it is going to all gel up at and ruin your whole day. One winter there was a bad batch of diesel going around the whole region (refinery prob too much bio mixed in) and they were having to run the school busses 24x7 or they wouldn't be able to pick the kids up for school.
I was checking your website and I was wondering how well you think this would work on a 670cc predator vtwin I have the carb you started with the "jetless" carb from a Kohler being used in a 2 seat buggy
I work in the fuel business and it happens more than you think. I've seen off-road diesel pumped into underground fuel tanks and into highway diesel tanks. The dye in the off-road really makes it fun
i remember watching your lawn mower carb experiments with ECU for it, and now YT recommends me this really sorry for your engine, your Ford really have some character
Here's a stellar idea. Throw the mystery fuel into a diesel engine and see what happens. Thanks for your content, an old Ford guy here. If time travel was possible you would fit in with the guys I hung with.
Putting the wrong fuel in a gas engine is bad (hence this video), but putting wrong fuel in a diesel engine is even worse, because you lose the lubrication to pumps/injectors. Only way I would do that is to be sure it is heavily mixed with good diesel/oil, at which point there’s basically no reason to test it
@@magicmaninc.5657 Adding gasoline to diesel in the winter during sub freezing temperatures used to be a thing before winter blend diesel. So he could definitely run it through a older diesel engine mixed into diesel 10/90 without much issues.
Decades ago I fried a 460 with accidental 50% blend of mystery diesel fuel. The cherry red exhaust was the clue when deciding to rest by the road. I feel your pain.
Back in the late 60's I was a service advisor for Poppell Olds/Mercedes in West Ft Worth, TX and Exxon had delivered bad gasoline to almost every one of their stations in that area. After a media nightmare and very wealthy individuals demanding them to do something, we, along with other dealerships, were authorized by them, (for those with certain date and time receipts which we were to collect and submit said receipts with our bill), to drain and clean the fuel tank, change all fuel filters, and overhaul the carburetor. And, if the "customer requested", we were approved to also change the oil and oil filter, too. It looked like a parade of wreckers dropping cars off all day for a week or so and for us on salary/commission ... it was Christmas in May!!!! Sorry you had to go through that!!!
You definitely got diesel, its not impossible, I see it at the repair shop I work at usually once every year or so. Customer gets towed in, no start and the fuel has that oily feeling to it. sometimes its the customers fault and they had pumped diesel by accident. But I've had plenty of customers show me the receipt from the station that clearly says they paid for, and pumped 87.
You got diesel. The fillers for the tanks at the gas station are all the same and usually all right next to each other. The "fail safe" is the pump handle itself. Diesel handles have a larger diameter spout that won't fit into a standard gasoline filler neck.
I may or may not have driven a mid 90s F150 for 4 years with a composite 2x8 holding the frame together. Missing torque boxes are far from no drive situation especially in the northern states. Half the vehicles here in northern MN have some percentage of bluetooth frame. That diesel switch situation sucks. The problem is you'll go broke trying to fight BP legally if you had an engine failure. God forbid someone admits they messed up and do their best to correct their wrongs. Thanks for the content Luke.
One thing that people easily forget when a unburnable substance is circulated through your engine is that a great deal of that fluid went straight past the cylinders and filled your exhaust system as well. I would expect a long time after the engine is in good health the hot exhaust gasses will continue to burn off whatever is left in the exhaust system. This same thing happens after fixing a bad engine that has been consuming oil or coolant. Several miles after the repairs are made you may be able to see a bit of smoke.
15 gallon tank. 16.7 gallons. All of it NOT gasoline! That's a bad time, Unca Luke! Sounds like the gas guy doesn't listen when she screams "WRONG HOLE!!"
It saddens me that this is what it took to get a new video from Luke, but I am happy for the content. Thanks for taking us along on this sleuth like episode Luke. Hopefully we will see more of you soon.
Great to see another Thunderhead289 video, too bad about the fuel snafu, nice way of dealing with get Mav back up and running. Thanks for video, hope to see more later. Nice cameo from wife.
I'm not sure if it is or isn't desiel or what it is, but I plan to at least drop them off a sample when I'm back in town. This actually just happened on Thursday evening, rare for me to turn around a video this quick
Keep some “fuel” for yourself, (self analysis for verification). Sure would be a shame for that station to get a bad rap for poor tank management… wink, wink.
Years ago I was on a road trip about 400 miles from home. I was fueling up the car when it just died.It seems the tanker truck had just dumped a bunch of diesel into the wrong hole although we didn't find out until later. The station took responsibility and paid for everything without haggling. Some starter fluid and a bit of fresh gas from the next station up the road got us running well enough to limp back onto the road until we got to our hotel. We got word of what the problem was so I bought a cheap gas can and some fuel hose to drain the tank. Fresh fuel and a short drive later the car was fine. Of course that left me with a cans of bad gas. I suggested leaving it by the car at the hotel one night. My wife thought I was crazy but sure enough someone stole it during the night.
Here in SW iowa, our local BP uses the same size nozzle for both gas and diesel, and has green handles on the gas pumps because that is their corporate color. We had many towed in cross-fueled both ways just from that one single station.
Good morning from Cape Cod 🦈 the way that it never evaporated tells me that's definitely diesel. Thank God you didn't damage your engine. Keep up the good work and the awesome content 👍✌️🇺🇲
I had a Lincoln that required two keys, a switch to be flipped, and a push button to start. If you counted the manual choke that was one more thing to know. I also had a seventies Impala that required you to hold the brake release for it to crank.
Got to be thankful you had no engine damage. I like your chain motor mount, had one on my 72 f100 because I constantly broke the driver side motor mount.
It's like having solid mounts without your teeth falling out. I love people ragging on it, just shows me how much h they don't know and how they have never felt the inertial effects of heavy v8 rotating mass. Might not be the fastest stuff out there anymore, but it sure feels good.
I work at a dealership and I have seen a few cases of customers getting bad fuel and having to clean the tank and flush the fuel rails and injectors. I myself have picked up bad gas in my 2002 E350 van but luckily I already had gas in the tank so I could still drive. I had a random misfire P0300 for two weeks and it felt weak under load but cleared up on it's own as I drove it and added fuel.
Before I retired I drove gasoline tankers, it is not as common as it once was , but it can happen that the tanker driver puts Diesel in a regular gas tank ( by mistake ) ( at the service station ) , also when that happens usually the Service station will pay all damages.
Dad once put diesel in the old car so we hooked the carb up to a motorcycle tank on top of the motor and a bucket in the engine bay to collect the diesel while it ran. Lots of room on an old slant six for a five gallon bucket.
In Wisconsin we have KwikTrip and if you get damages from their fuel take in a report from a mechanic stating it was due to fuel along with and estimate for the repair and they will pay for it
I've had a similar issue but it turned out to be some type of waste solvent mixed with the gas in the ground tank. The car ran rough at start up but was okay when warm. Months later the station was in the news and described as part of a network of independent stations cycling industrial wastes through their pumps.
there's no interlock to prevent cross drops at a fuel station, they got diesel in there premium tank. iv had it happen on a fuel injected car, really not any worse drain disconnect the fuel line at the engine cycle the key to pump the tank empty re fill with good fuel.
You can have the fuel tested. Exactly how they find out and hold them accountable or the fuel delivery service. Honestly you deserve compensation for your troubles. We have issues with water in our local ones when it pours hard over 4 inchs. You can also have leeching from one storage tank to the other or into the ground and then into an adjacent tank. The hole its buried in fills up surrounding it can also seep into the tank. BP should have a nunber for you to report your issues also. Keep the "gas" and it can be used to prove your case. Your video is also proof. Especially the trunk test. Greasy non evaporatable says Diesel all over it. Fun video though even if it wasnt a planned one. Sorry for your troubles man.
Luke, I like your philosophy on life. My 67 Mustang Fastback looks like hell and has rust there in that torque-box area and everywhere else for that matter, but the engine and mechanicals have all been gone through by me. It's got a 94, 5.0 Cobra crate engine from Ford Racing and a B&M C4 Transmission that I installed along with all of the usual good stuff, (Weiand Stealth, Summit carb-600CFM, B303 cam, GT40 heads, 1.7:1 RR, full-length headers, Flowmasters, 9-inch Auburn posi, disc brakes, ect.). Being 72, I'll never get the chance to restore it, but it's a safe ride and it runs good. The looks that it draws are priceless, just the way it is. Keep on doin' what you're doin', Luke.
I was driving home on Friday 2.5hrs out of town in the 7.3. Filled up at a gas station then shortly after the truck started to be down on power. Shortly after it stalled, coasted into the gas station and found my filter was plugged. Cleaned the filter & it started and drove home.
That was a unique way to have your dinner plans ruined ....
Oh no mardy I filled it with desel 😂
I bet they some how put Diesel or Kerosene in the wrong ground tank, I know the truck to tank nozzles are different for gas and diesel/kerosene so perhaps the tanker trailer had the wrong product in the wrong tank. My brother is a district manager for Hess and he says it does happen but not often. Since Kero and off road diesel are dyed red for ID and tax purposes I'm sure its road diesel. Be interesting to see the results if you send a sample to a lab. I don't think it's bad gas, it's not dark enough to be varnished gas which also has a very distinct smell and if you say it smells kinda like diesel then that's most likely the contamination as they smell nothing alike plus vanished gas wouldn't be oily, more likely to leave a thin sticky residue
it messed up my motor a 4-cylinder in a Chevy Monza not much of a motor but it did what did you do with that Torino
I have a 71 Torino with a 398w stroker in it
Yes that is road diesel! It can and does happen, can be gas in the diesel tank as well. It’s rare but does happen
You got dieseled, a local store near me got diesel in their gas and had to pay to repair several vehicles
Sounds like there isn't anything in place to prevent someone from making mistakes. Wrong gas is lying, wrong fuel is a whole different level.
If this was a fuel injection vehicle, this would be a terrible expirience - horrible to deal with and would have clogged the cats and fouled many sensors
Same situation here in the UK, I got some of that in my 87 Renault and had to pay to get the tank drained.
Looked like diesel, for sure with how greasy it was.
You know how you can’t put the nozzle of the diesel pump, into the filler neck of the gas tank of your gasoline powered vehicle? It would seem to me that there should be the same kind of thing for the tankers that fill the underground gas station tanks. If so, then the so called “mix up” was and is, INTENTIONAL. They want us all in EV’s so we will be more controllable. Part of the “Great Reset” where we will “Own Nothing, And Be Happy” people need to come together along racial and class lines, and stand up to this crap.
I came to say the same thing. The guy who filled the tanks put diesel in the gas at the gas station. They probably switched to either a new supplier or a new truck driver who didn't know which tank was which and they didn't bother to ask the attendant or the attendant didn't know.
That is definitely diesel mixed in with gasoline, even though the pump didn't have diesel as an option. Last time that the gas station's 91 octane tank was filled, it was contaminated with diesel. either the tanker truck was improperly filled at the terminal or the delivery driver accidentally dispensed diesel into the premium unleaded tank. either way, the fuel station should be on the hook
Some line got crossed and with all the checks it is easy to see what went where.
Wouldn't be the 1st time that's happened either
00:00 title clickbaits "DAMAGED my Engine!"
25:32 "...doesn't look like we have any engine damage.
@@mikeschneider5077 well and it also implies higher octane fuel is to blame, when the car actually needs 91 to run properly lol. A lot of automotive youtubers are clickbaiting without any remorse. Gotta get views...
@@frostbite1991 yep, and when I go back to main page I will tell UA-cam to 'Don't Recommend Channel' ... I do this with any clickbait lies in the titles and over-done thumbnails for babies that need tons of arrows or eye candy.
If the title is true, then it is fine ... Rob Dahm would make clickbaity titles that come to fruition, because it is playing against actual fake titles like this one.
I thumbs down before I watched because I know 91 octane cannot damage an engine unless it is supposed to run on race fuel, and they were going to have to earn it back off; I see they won't and get a perma-ban from my feed on top of it! Good days!!! :)
You are way too nice on that gas station. I hope you at least got a refund on the diesel. I'd send them a bill for your labor to remedy!
To be fair, it's not the gas stations fault, but the supplier.
@@hawkdslas far as responsibility the gas station owes Thunderhead and the supplier owes the gas station...
@@hawkdslthat’s like saying a drug dealer isn’t responsible for what his suppliers give him😂
Gas stations are usually privately owned, and have a supplier contract. Think of them as a grocery store. Certainly they are on the hook for repairs, but they will just charge back the supplier. The error was either the delivery driver mixing tanks (which happens more then people think), or the truck was loaded wrong at the refinery. But certainly, from the consumers point of view, the station is liable .
After setting aside a sample for evidence, you can get rid of the mixture in the caddy either by putting it in an old diesel at about 25%, with the rest diesel, or old gas engines at about 5% with the rest gas. Maybe 10%. or use it like lighter fluid to kindle fires. Avoid new engines though as the old ones are more forgiving.
In flight school you're taught to visually inspect a sample of the gas in the tank before you start up the engine. 99% of the time you don't find water buildup or discoloration, but after seeing this it totally makes sense why you'd do this in a plane.
thing is, tanks at airports are ALWAYS clearly labeled and so are the trucks so this is almost never an issue but at a fuel station, if you dont know which hole gets what fuel, you end up with this issue
Yeah, it would suck at 20000ft.
Planes have built-in drain points for each tank specifically for that purpose. Just push the small catch cup into the check valve and you get whatever is on the bottom of the tank. But I don't know anyone that checks the fuel coming out of the pump at the airport. We all just stick the nozzle in the tank and wince at the price. Here in Florida I almost always find some amount of water in the fuel. It's so humid. Maybe we should be more careful. Bad fuel accidents have happened.
Driving and enjoying a hotrod without perfect paint and little issues is truly nice! It's amazing how much I've learned fixing mechanical issues to keep it going.
new delivery guy got the wrong hole
😂
Wife's pregnant again? Sorry, couldn't help myself.
Or old delivery guy had a hangover 😅
Diesel dropped in gas tank
This. Same thing happened to my sister's 2010 Navigator in 2011. Gas station delivery guy put diesel in the 87 octane tank. Strangely enough, I went to the same station about 30 minutes beforehand and bought a tank of 92 octane. My car (a 1984 Volvo Turbo wagon at the time) ran great. Her's, however, did not. She wound up limping it to the Ford dealer she bought it from a few months prior. Needed the tank drained, new lines, new injectors, etc. The whole thing. Gas station wound up paying for the repairs.
This happened to a friend of mine in West Palm Beach, Florida - there was water intrusion into the storage tank at the gas station, and it hydrolocked the engine in his 911. As well as two other high end cars, all broken down at the same block near the same gas station. Pro tip: if you own a gas station, don't sell bad fuel that trashes the engines in the cars of three attorneys.
Oooh that was a expensive mess for that station owner 😅 😳
Gas stations are supposed to take a daily reading (and record) water levels. That much water should be noticed real quick. Unless it was a catastrophic tank failure that is negligence and illegal. Most stations these days have electronic monitors but years ago we would take a water detecting paste and put it on the tank stick and drop it in. It would turn purple in contact with water and then you would record how many inches of water were in the bottom.
Only thing worse than trashing 3 lawyers cars is trashing the car of a Mob Boss or the local chapter of a 1%'er Motorcycle Club's bikes.
Hydrolocked the engine, eh? What did he do, pour a gallon of it down the intake? Hydrostatic lock is when there is so much liquid in the cylinder, that the piston tries to compress the compressible liquid in the cylinder.(Pascal's law) Have no doubt it damaged the fuel system or caused the piston rings to rust when the car sat unstarted for a while. Hydrolocked....... I have a doubt.
that wiper washer circuit for the starter is genius
🤣🤣We used to put tranny fluid in our cleaning fluid tanks with the line leading into the carb then sit at a red light and pump it in, we'd smoke out the whole intersection, on the freeway it was treat if someone was tailgating
Grandad told me after running bad fuel or tuning up an old engine to slowly pour a rattle can cap of water down the carb while revving it up to 1500rpm or so. Cleans deposits off the valves & cylinders. Don't pour fast or you'll bend a valve or hydro lock the motor.
Glad to see you got to keep her on the road!
The plugs should clean themselves like a self cleaning oven once burning normal gas. If they don't, try increasing heat with hotter plugs, more spark advance or plug foulers. The residual diesel should cool combustion and that should prevent knock as long as it's there, enabling you to burn 87 gas until you run it through. So try cheap gas and more advance and see if it spark knocks. if it does then set it back, but if not, it should clean the plugs for you and run better until the remaining diesel is gone; then put the timing back again.
I used to use a spray bottle with water for my 69 Ranchero 302. Safer then dumping water down the carb.
Maybe you should look into seafoam instead of water
My grandmas brother used a similar trick but he used moonshine instead of water 😂
Ah, like what Dalton did in one of his revivals.
Many years ago (when there was still leaded gasoline along with unleaded), I used to be a dispatcher for a fuel tanker line. All it takes is for a storage tank to be poorly marked and a tanker driver to not be paying attention for this to happen. On my last night working for the tanker line one of the drivers called in to tell me that he had dropped regular gasoline into an unleaded tank (which changes the unleaded gas to leaded). The terminal manager (my boss) was a nice guy, and I really hated to have to call him and tell him it was now his problem... but I had to get home to finish packing as we were moving 400 miles away in the morning!
I worked for a fuel truck repair shop for about 7 years from 2012 till 2019, and dispensing fuel into the wrong in ground tank is way more common than you would think, mostly due to inexperience on the delivery person's part.
Well that's frightening - I was really disappointed to see that I didn't accidentally do it when I drove back to look at the pump
Had a station here in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan that had bad fuel and damaged 47 vehicles. The station had to completely shut down and all systems replaced before they could operate again. This was over a 1 million dollar overhaul on top of what was paid out to fix the damaged vehicles!😮😮😮😮😅😅😊😊😊
Sucks that you spent all that money on a full tank hoping to haul some ass with that 91 only to get sacked. You still have a pretty positive attitude regardless. Good on you bro
There was a case in California where a fuel distributor was getting supply from scrapped cars, draining the tanks and re-selling the fuel to unsuspecting buyers.
Lehtos Law
In Houston off spec chemicals find their way into the cheaper gas stations.
@@WesternReloaderWasnt expecting to here Mr Lemon Law Steve Lehto's name here.
That wouldn't kill an engine.
Yeah I watched that on Letos law old bad gas
There was a brand new station that had bad gas around me. They found some bad seals in their new system allowing for mixing of products, specifically the diesel and gasoline, as well as water getting in. The station came good for all repairs that were brought to their attention, including 3 engine replacements.
hi I used to be a towtruck driver , and one day I towed 7 different cars within 2 miles from a gas station where they all just fueled. The station paid for all the tow fees for all of them including fuelpumps and labor to fix
That carb cheater was an absolutely brilliant idea. So many people have great ideas but to see someone actually execute an idea is rare. Good on ya Luke!
It's a lot of work, but it's been fun to see people have fun with classics again and enjoy tuning 🙂
Back around '90, my brother borrowed my '64 Falcon Sprint because his car broke down. To show his appreciation, he topped off the tank with diesel by mistake, so it was about 50/50 gas/ diesel. The car ran - but horribly, and trailed a smoke screen that would have made 007 envious. After I expressed my thoughts to him on the matter, I drained the tank, drained the Holley 600, blew the fuel line out from carb to tank, and filled it with mid grade. It smoked for 5 minutes, then cleared up and ran fine for years afterward.
" Left a Trail of Smoke ,
That Would Have Made
007 Envious " ...
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FUNNY ... ! 😂😅😂😅
I've been watching your videos for years, Luke. I have a MINT 5.0 H.O. sitting on an engine stand, ready to drop in. ECU, wiring harness, long flow headers, everything. Pulled it out of a 1988 Foxbody with 20K original miles. You're welcome to it, bro. I'll let you have it if you want it.
Legend 👍
I've been watching for years as well ... love the way Luke is logical in what he does. Offering that motor to him is completely bad-ass of you bro and your generosity will be repaid to you somehow, someday 👍🍻😎
Exceptionally generous of you, I appreciate that a ton - I could never take that gem off your hands, that's one to keep tucked under your wing for a rainy day - in 2024, something like that is very difficult to come by 🙂
@@ThunderHead289 You can definitely trust an engine built by youtube user StrokeMyLovePump!
@ThunderHead289 It's yours if you want it. I live in Knoxville TN, and almost never drive my cars or trucks. I've been riding my motorcycles exclusively for years now. I got the engine with the intention of putting it in my 1990 Ranger, but I know me, and I probably won't ever get around to it. You, on the other hand, would probably be able to put it to use and make some good content in the process. Just let me know if you want it and it's yours. 🤘
I'm in the business, so here's my speculation: I wondered if the fuel had been in the gas station's storage tank too long, but the lack of evaporation looks like you got a belly full of diesel. I drive a fuel tanker truck. The hoses and fittings are compatible all around, so nothing physically prevents the wrong product going in the wrong tank, known as a 'mix', which is a very dirty word.
There are strict procedures to follow to prevent this. All products have tags with particular shapes and color codes. Before loading, I make sure the tags on the truck match the product I'm loading. If you lift the lid on a gas station storage tank, you'll see the same color and shape coded tags. When I hook the delivery hose up I look at the tag on the truck, and on the tank I'm delivering to, and make sure they match, before opening any valves. As long as these procedures are followed, you will not get a mix.
I'm guessing the tanker driver didn't look closely enough, or it's possible that the storage tank is mislabelled, but I doubt that. My speculation is that the tanker driver dropped a load of diesel into the premium unleaded tank.
I've heard sad stories from the guy who trained me, and other drivers. These things are not supposed to happen, but sometimes they do. The wrong product will sometimes get loaded in the wrong compartment of the tanker, or get delivered to the wrong tank.
When this happens, the storage tank needs to be sucked out, hopefully before customers filled their cars. This gets very expensive, and drivers have lost their jobs because of mixing.
Luke, as you said, you have an old school lump of iron, and you can recover from this. Modern vehicles with high pressure fuel injection systems are very fussy, and can be destroyed this way, with bills in the tens of thousands. A friend of a friend let his son take the gas pickup out, and he filled it with diesel, resulting in an $11000 repair bill. Ouch.
I'm in Canada, maybe American equipment is different in some ways. But to the best of my knowledge, it is absolutely possible that someone put diesel in the premium tank of that gas station. I wonder how they reacted to this... Hopefully someone took a sample to figure this out.
I'm also in Canada and had it happen to 2 of my vehicles a few years ago. Filled my wife's car the night before, and my truck in the morning.
She made it to work, my truck died a few KM down the road. Hers wouldn't start after work.
Apparently 70+ vehicles affected. First shop tried using methyl hydrate I think, but still ran like crap shortly after leaving.
They didn't bill us anything and we then went to a...GM dealer 😞
Husky station's insurance reimburse us for $700 in repairs.
@@grabasandwich $700? That's not much.
System sounds the same as ours from what i have observed when the tanker has been filling a station.
our tankers look like the tags can be moved and changed allowing each compartment to be used for any fuel for example if going to diesel only truck stop all compartments
are diesel
@@ratbag359 Yes, that's a good way to put it. Any compartment in the tanker can carry (mostly) any product, and can deliver (mostly) anywhere. The equipment needs to be flexible. Having trucks with fittings and hoses dedicated to only one product would be prohibitively expensive. So, as stated, check the tags!
Wow. That was terrible that you got stranded because of that!
I was a victim of a possible diesel/gas mix in Louisiana right after one of the hurricanes. No idea if that was related or not, but gas was hard to find so there could have been a motive for them to cut the gas with diesel to have more to sell.
Was driving my turbocharged Buick. It is low compression and has an indicator to show when detonation is occurring. The first sign of trouble was getting back on to the Interstate about 3 minutes after filling up. Had severe detonation with very mild acceleration. Drove very gently to avoid detonation. Noticed some white smoke and was concerned that oil was passing into the engine via the turbo, so I made one more stop and investigated for oil in the air hoses, but found none. The trip is normally 7 hours, so I had to refill once more before getting home. After the second refueling, I noticed the smoke was gone, and was able to apply more throttle without detonation.
Very frustrating, but thankfully didn't damage my engine.
When I was in high school, a gas station erroneously put diesel into a regular 87 pump. They admitted their screwup and reimbursed anyone that was affected.
I use to haul gasoline and diesel for years. Seems like the driver dropped diesel in the premium tank by accident . The station should have caught that on their meter root system inside the store. That is an electric meter system that tells how much fuel is in the tanks. Man, what luck. Those underground tanks service more than one pump. I'm sure more people are getting the same stuff. No interlock. Goes straight in the tank . That was diesel mix.
Is it possible for the trailer tank to get filled incorrectly or is it rigged to prevent improper loading?
The trailers here are setup to carry any fuel they have replaceable tags so up to the driver to check at each step.
not sure about other country's setups.
@@monkeybarmonkeymanyes and no. For my fuel truck, we keep the compartments dedicated to either diesel or gasoline. While I will vary the amounts based upon what I'm delivering that day, I know I'm filling the three same compartments with diesel and the other two with gasoline and that never changes. That makes it easier to prevent accidents from happening, but it's still up to me to be sure I'm sending the right compartment into the right storage tank.
happened at my parent’s gas station… you get delivers sometimes after hours. Guy put diesel in the unleaded and unleaded in the diesel. Then he figured it out and changed the labels around on the fill ports. Half a day pumping the wrong fuel. Most of the gas cars were okay but all the milk trucks and other diesels were not. If the truck driver would have just said something it would have saved 80K in repair bills… plus all most all the milk guys never pumped there again…
I'm glad everything worked out for you Thunderhead. Could have been much worse. You are such a easy going guy. I would have been pissed.
Yeah, the tanker put the diesel into the wrong tank. Glad you figured that out and had no damage. Funny how your lady does not like to be on camera! Blessings to you guys from Texas!
12:10 - What you said there is VERY true. Life happens and before you know it, a few years have passed and priorities and motivation change.
UA-camrs make it seem very simple when they do it. But a lot of them have behind the scenes people to help out and don't tell you about that. A lot of kids are getting caught in that trap.
Delivery tanker driver f'd up. That was definitely diesel.
I grew up in a family owned AMOCO in Cedar Falls 1984-95 and know who delivers to many places to this day, so I won't name drop.
I ran Ultimate 93 octane until BP bought AMOCO late 90s/early 2000s and they took Ultimate down to 91.
GOOD gas, regardless of the octane, won't go bad in underground tanks from little use during winter, in my experience.
Change your oil, fresh plugs and it'll get rid of the piston carbon eventually.
Much respect!!!
I've seen that 'yellow gas' in cars come off the tow truck many many times. Usually it's diesel or kerosene contaminated fuel, guy grabbed the wrong tank for a fill and either caught it part way then didn't tell anyone or didn't catch it at all. On fuel injected cars at least we just pump the tank empty, put in a few gallons of fresh fuel, purge the fuel lines, and try starting it. If it won't start we'll pull a couple plugs, wash the cylinder out with brake cleaner and air, then it'll fire on a couple cylinders and the rest of the engine will catch up after a few spins. Let it idle to warm up a few minutes then go drive it around to clear the rest out of the cylinders and once it's fully warmed up a few good 2nd gear pulls to clear the exhaust, tell the customer if the engine light comes on swing back by, you might end up needing a cat or O2 sensor but it's all looking good now. Of the say 15 I've seen only 2 or 3 ended up needing a cat which was probably borderline before.
I've followed you for awhile like your choice in cars and trucks. I got a 72 F-250 ,360,2bbl. 4spd, camper special with 9,000mi. For free in 83 I made it into a wrecker and put 220,000mi on it with only tires,belts,points, plugs, oil. Then put motor in another truck, and cab and front on a 69 4x4 shortened build. So it lives on as 2 trucks
I built a high compression Harley shovelhead years ago. On an interstate ride, it started running rough and vibrating. I aborted the trip, and headed home.
After the next gas fill, it improved noticeably.
Later that evening, I got gas again, at a service plaza on the FL turnpike. I could tell the difference as soon as I accelerated to get back on the turnpike. A significant loss of power, and a noticeable change in the sound of the exhaust.
I babied it to the next service plaza, 45 miles down the road, and topped off the tank. It took over two gallons. Less than half the mpg I had gotten earlier that day with good gas.
I suspect I got a high percentage of alcohol in the fill up.
Tell your wife she is a pleasant departure from your mug ha ha. Her personality is awesome and she is right about the sitting in the driveway revving the engine to check things out. “You car people” that she called you was hilarious. On a serious note, why not send the fuel you drained to a lab and have it analyzed then you will have your answers and maybe have info that will help others who had issues.
Revving the engine is also known as the "Italian Tune-up"
She's got you figured out! In Massachusetts we're call "CAH Guys"!
Had the same thing happen to me. My daily is an 06 Infiniti g35 that requires premium. Filled up at a smaller gas station outside of town and got about half a mile before the car just shut down. I thought the pump died but I cycled the key and could hear it. I checked the shrader valve on the rail and fuel came out that was super oily. I called the gas station from the side of the road. Sure enough they went out to test it and found a mixture of diesel.
Where I got lucky is right there on the side of the road they called a tow truck for me. And after putting that car in the shop they paid to have the whole fuel system replaced. They actually thanked me for calling so quickly because they were able to have the tank drained the refilled with the proper fuel instead of having more motorists stranded, costing them tons of money.
Draining the tank out, blowing the fuel out of the lines, and then refilling with gasoline should fix the problem.
I'd be sorely tempted to remove the exhaust from the manifold and run it for a few minutes so it didn't contaminate the O2 sensors and catalytic converters further than they already have been.
Fuel injectors won't get real angry with you for running diesel through them, they'll clean up.
Where you can get in trouble is your catalytic converters, O2 sensors, and spark plugs.
It is a bunch of Labor to get rid of all that crap from your fuel system though. That's more expensive than parts.
Love your channel man. Love how you don’t curse. Anyone can enjoy your content.
I got bad gas in the middle of winter. I filled up on regular, I drove about 5 blocks in town to my job. When I came out 2 hrs later my tank and lines were frozen. 4 bottles of HEET, a salamander, and 3 hrs later we got it defrosted. We drained the tank and found it was STILL half WATER!!!
You bet I went back to that station and yelled at them for about 20 minutes, with the mechanic standing there with me. They refunded my $$ and shut the regular gas pumps down to treat the tanks. They told me afterwards, they lost half their volume by removing the water from the tanks.
At the time, I worked as a school bus driver. The bus mechanic is who helped me get going again, and he allowed me to use the company pickup to go get fresh gas for my car.
I once filled my 69 Chevelle and ended up with about a 50/50 gas diesel mix from it. The engine acted up after a mile and was smoking, I knew from the smell what happened and that if I shut it off I would not make it home. I drove it 30 miles at 75% throttle and 50 mph, but I made it. New plugs, fresh gas in the system, ran like a champ.
Running diesel in a gas car can lubricate everything and usually won't start, but rarely harms anything since it won't burn well without compression. But gas in a diesel, destruction is imminent.
I know you probably know all this, but in case your viewers might not. :)
Glad you got it sorted.
You are definitely not the only one this has happened to lately. When I worked at an auto shop so about 7 or 8 months ago we had someone fill up at a gas station with 87 ( in a modern GDI engine) it did not fire at all, so after draining the gas and seeing it and a burn test, we suspected that tank at the station to be mixed with diesel. We had to drain the cars tank and do a similar thing so I can see this happening. Sorry that happened to you and that iconic car. I would call and explain it to that gas station and bring a sample and hopefully they correct it. Technically they are supposed to check gas tank samples with a wood stick on a regular basis and sounds likely they didn’t do that. Anyhow thanks for making a video about it! I always enjoy watching your channel!
$0.028/per mile - Respect, I love that car long time. I'm an old timer and a chemical engineer. Bad gas was and I guess is a thing. We were always cultured to fill up at a station with good throughput and to avoid filling up while the gas was being delivered (delivery stirs up solids and water). Back in the see through filter days I would look at the filter all the time and most engine flutters or coughs corresponded to shiat or water in the filter. As a Chem E I'm thinking diesel or aged polymerization products. You burn ethanol containing fuels (no respect) but I can't see a chemical pathway that leads to non evaporating fuel. The evaporation test you did was like a hillbillie boiling point curve (respect) and I really doubt that any gas, when delivered had enough unsaturated compounds to make that much polymer residual. So the most obvious answer (diesel) is probably it. An analysis will tell the tale. For what it's worth I do not like BP but that's based on their upstream operations. Final thought - I've shipped a lot of chemicals over the years. If you have a high spec product you have to pay extra for a cleaned tank - otherwise you can get a few gallons of the previous product if you are using a half-ass contractor. I've actually ordered up a tanker for a hydrocarbon load that still had wine fumes from the prior load. It's a long shot but it is remotely possible that gasoline was filled into a tanker that haul some sort of oil or gawd knows what. That car is awesome.
My brother got gas in the winter at a gas station when the temp was -10F. Had his truck running as he filled the tank. Engine stopped and it would not start. He called me and I towed it home and put it in the garage warmed it up and drained the tank. Got 5 gal of water out of it. Lol. You can get bad gas at a gas station.
Happened to me in the 90's. Car wouldn't run suddenly and when I drained the tank I got at least 2 or 3 gallons of water from it.
In my experience with water in gas from station its usually due to people getting gas while truck is dropping fuel in main tank. Ive been told there is a certain amount of water in fuel tanks in ground due to condensation build up. When truck drops fuel specially on a low tank it stirs water in bottom and car pumps it. If there was no truck when you got gas then it was residual water left in pump and car before you got it too
Samething. Made about a half mile from gas station.
Last year son filled up truck and went a couple miles til it died on side of road. Ended up towing home and drained fuel from carb and a sample from the fuel line and it was 1/2 water 1/2 gas. Ended up pumping out entire tank, had to rebuild carb from sucking in trash somehow to get it back. All from filling up.
A gas station I would stop at on the way home from work got busted purposely diluting their gas with water. I noticed my Jeep would run like garbage every time I went there and then it was on the news. (This was 25 years ago)
Hi uncle Luke!
I am building tanks for gasstations over here in Germany. Here is mandatory a need for double wall tanks. The room in between is now more and more checked by a vacuum device. But back in the days it was usual filled with a control fluid named (over here in the EU) Glymin NF.
The idea is, that a automaticly observed leak on the double wall will be detected. If the tank on the gasstation is rusted thru inside (what can happen surly), then the controlfluid mixes with the gasolin. The color should be the same greenyelloish like you shown. But maybe you do the things completely different in the states.
I like your Maverick, its a cool piece. And big applause for your carbcheater. Very clever.
Regards from Dresden
oh we have had bad gas bad diesel at fuel stations one tip my dad told us never ever get gas or fuel up the semi at fuel station were a tanker is refilling the station and it is a good advice that has served me well Thx Dad he is gone my dad but not his spirit he is always with me
Way back in the 80s, I worked at a Mobil gas station in the service bay. Some guy in his diesel truck put gas in his tank by accident. We drained his tank and I kept the fuel and ended up using the mixture in my Malibu. I used a couple of gallons per tank full and except for a tiny bit of smoke, it ran fine and I saved (back then it seemed like a lot) a couple of bucks per tank full!
Think that "fuel" sample could level out the high spots in what's left of that 1970's paint?
She saved your life, she is gorgeous and she is a keeper. How lucky are you....
I have gotten bad gas twice from stations, one of them happened to be in Iowa as well, in Davenport of of Interstate 80.
In the Davenport one, the gas was loaded with rust and dirt. I was on the way to Vallejo, CA and luckily had an extra fuel filter so I could keep truckin'. I bought a bunch of filters at the auto parts store and ended up changing the fuel filter 6 times between Walcott, Iowa where it first gave me problems and Victoria, Tx. I traveled to Vallejo, CA then down to Bakersfield, CA and on to Laredo, TX before heading to Palatka, FL which is how I was in Victoria. I didn't have the time to stop and have the tank dropped, drained and cleaned until I got to Muncie, IN after Florida so I just kept changing the filter. I saved them all and cut them open later and they were completely gunked up inside.
A video about contaminated gas reminds me of a story. A junkyard near me used to sell recovered gas from junk cars. Now the junkers who bought the fuel knew it was contaminated with water even before going to buy it. One day, me and my father are leaving the yard and heading home. As we are leaving. We see a line of brand-new escalades driving into the yard. It's the executives checking to each yard in the area and doing a tour. Well, they get the bright idea to fill the tanks of those new escalades with junkyard gas. We heard from the people in the yard that all of those escalades made it out to the road before their engines seized up. It was hilarious.
Never get gas at a gas station while a semi is filling up their tanks. As they pump the gas underground, the water in the tank is mixing with the gas. It takes time for the water and gas mixed Together to separate out.
This is why stations up here in Michigan are Required by law to have water separation systems on all pumps! Have watched several stations being overhauled and seen the separation systems be installed. 😊
And the dirt and rust sediment at the bottom of the tank also is stirred up.
@@1987FX16 good thinking!👍
@@1987FX16the pumps have filters built into them
91 (no eth) gets more use in the winter only if there is a lot of snow (snowmobiles, snowblowers) and the putting diesel in the gas at the station is more common than you would think I hauled gas for over 35 years and it can happen at the delivery or at the terminal where its loaded
Put the suspect gas in a clear glass container and give it a swirl. If there's an oily contaminate it should settle out in the bottom. Testing the specific gravity of the fuel is one way but requires a graduated cylinder and hydrometer.
First time viewer. You are a shade tree mechanic of my own heart. Do what u need to do to keep the old iron rolling. A rusty bent and weathered runner is worth a dozen trailer queens that just sit around looking pretty. Cars and trucks were meant to be run.
Hi Luke, long time no see, then up pops the Maverick. That can only mean trouble - must watch. Like most of the others , you got dieseled. The way she died is typical of dieseling. Lots of smoke, your lucky you vehicle is over instrumented. That is what helped, with normal tuning the effect takes longer 'cos it thinks it's just a fuel delivery problem so pumps more in, it gets worse as it goes, round and round then usually just dies and wont start. I had a friend who picked up a brand new diesel car, went to fill up, and put full tank of petrol into it. He never lived that down. The car was pumped dry and I drove the vehicle for 120K+ over the next 3 yrs, and bought the car after lease ran out. Thanks for letting us see that it does happen! From UK.
Walmart ruined my 1978 401 Jeep. I got 9 gallons of diesel. I was able to get it drivable, but I never could get it to idle right. Finally sold it. Walmart would not help with the repair cost. I never leave a gas station without a receipt. This was back in 1994. My cost to drain oil. rebuilt carburetor, new plugs and filters. 900.00 bucks
Man, that's a bad ordeal but at least the damage turned out uncatastrophic, I bought a 73 Mercury Comet last month, I posted it in the FaceBook group, you and the Maverick were the inspiration. 🙂
You should take a sample to a lab and find out for sure AND talk to the Gas Supplier, It might help keep anyone else from having this problem. (Although by now, it is probably too late).
Having served in gas stations all my life, I was made aware that Ford made a model of Escort in the '80s that used diesel, I assume for export. Having filled the half empty tank with 87 octane, he fired it up and shut it down, informed me of the discrepancy and the owner had me dump the contents into the 87 octane tank which had recently been filled and, he said, would dilute the mix sufficiently to cause no adverse reactions. Incidentally, there WAS a Diesel Only sticker under the swell of the sheet metal, where, at 6'4", I was too tall to even see it. I surmise that the station had let the tank get rather empty before having to correct a similar incident. I'm glad to hear that all came out in your favor.
Smart Man !
It wasn't your fault and you proved it with science.
They owe You an engine.
You're probably not the only customer. I'd check any local social media pages. **Edit: If anyone ever experiences this, call the station asap**
Happened to me on 2 vehicles. Got gas the night before, went back with my other vehicle in the morning. She made it all the way to work, but mine died a few min later.
Apparently 70+ vehicles were affected. Station had to pump their tank. Husky's insurance company compensated us for $700 in repairs.
First shop tried fixing with methyl hydrate but that didn't work. They didn't charge us anything so we took it to a dealer. I hate dealerships but they drained both tanks and showed us the water.
Call the local radio and tv stations to investigate. That will get the ball rolling
@@TNitroHthis was a few years ago but thanks. It turned out to be water though.
I got water in North Carolina once!!!
They got some of the worst fuel quality ever.
I’ve driven all 48 in my vw tdi swapped caddy.
Get fuel there once and it wouldn’t rev.
It threw a rod 600 miles later.
When that bottom end had fresher bearings- had been dead reliable to me for over a decade at that point.
I drove up north for Xmas and my fuel froze solid.
2 years later in Washington it does daily commute duty with a -20f cold start no problem.
Starts better than thunderbolts engine does at 60f😂
You filming your wife had me cracking up! 😂 Great work.
Sitting in the driveway revving it is a given to make me feel better my wife says it's a ritual that I do to fix anything even the lawn mower
I've got a little handle and cable rigged up to the governor on my push mower so I can rev it for fun my neighbor thinks it stupid but it puts a smile on my face 😂
Having started off working in a full service gas station back in the very early 1980's, it does happen but usually a lot less then it use too. Fuel trucks usually have different connections on their hoses for diesel, as well as that the tanks in the ground are usually color coded on the lid and the tank cap. That still does not mean that truck drivers get it right, as a trucker who does not or has not run fuel tankers before do get it wrong sometimes. But I have seen one case where a truck driver who was making a fuel dump with a tanker, did accidentally drop a fuel hose into the holding tank and no one could figure out how he did it until the pump service pulled the hose out of the tank. Which they had to uncover the tank to remove the inlet to replace it after removing the hose. Turned out it was a hose off of an older truck that used smaller hoses, then what they use now.
I live in eastern IA, used to drive past Marshalltown monthly, the only time I have gotten bad gas in a car in 50+ years of driving was in that city. Probably just a coincidence, but I never stopped there for gas after that incident. Not as severe as your situation, at least we were able to limp home. Good information in the video!
Happy 300k subs! I always enjoy your videos.
I used to work at a Walmart years ago and their gas station had an issue once where the fuel put in their 91 tank was about 80% ethenol. People that filled up had their cars stalling out just minutes down the road. They ended up paying to fix all the cars.
That was a expensive day for them. Especially having to replace several engines on top of a good number of fuel injectors and fuel pumps 😮😮😮
@@dylanwinn3high ethanol content can mess up fuel lines and injectors in cars that aren't designed to run it.
@@dylanwinn3wrong. This happened to me in 2019 and the gas station company paid for all my repairs. I needed new fuel injectors and fuel pump, and they paid for a rental car. $2500 and gave me $100 in gift cards as well.
I feel like pumping gas is a gamble a lot of the time these days. At least in my neck of the woods.
I've pumped water, diesel, red dye off a taxed pump, the list goes on.
Yea pumping diesel is even worse - never know how much biodiesel you are getting or at what temp it is going to all gel up at and ruin your whole day. One winter there was a bad batch of diesel going around the whole region (refinery prob too much bio mixed in) and they were having to run the school busses 24x7 or they wouldn't be able to pick the kids up for school.
I was checking your website and I was wondering how well you think this would work on a 670cc predator vtwin I have the carb you started with the "jetless" carb from a Kohler being used in a 2 seat buggy
competency crisis.
I work in the fuel business and it happens more than you think. I've seen off-road diesel pumped into underground fuel tanks and into highway diesel tanks. The dye in the off-road really makes it fun
i remember watching your lawn mower carb experiments with ECU for it, and now YT recommends me this
really sorry for your engine, your Ford really have some character
Any chance you could pop down to the station and ask for when the last supply of 91 was delivered, and who the supplier was?
Also get the last test report from the county as well. 😊
Looks to me like someone at the gas station put diesel in the gas pump?
Here's a stellar idea. Throw the mystery fuel into a diesel engine and see what happens. Thanks for your content, an old Ford guy here. If time travel was possible you would fit in with the guys I hung with.
Putting the wrong fuel in a gas engine is bad (hence this video), but putting wrong fuel in a diesel engine is even worse, because you lose the lubrication to pumps/injectors. Only way I would do that is to be sure it is heavily mixed with good diesel/oil, at which point there’s basically no reason to test it
Guys, I was being sarcastic.
@@magicmaninc.5657 Adding gasoline to diesel in the winter during sub freezing temperatures used to be a thing before winter blend diesel. So he could definitely run it through a older diesel engine mixed into diesel 10/90 without much issues.
Call your state agency and get the fuel tested.
I’m pretty sure if he fed that to an IDI it would love it.
Decades ago I fried a 460 with accidental 50% blend of mystery diesel fuel. The cherry red exhaust was the clue when deciding to rest by the road. I feel your pain.
Back in the late 60's I was a service advisor for Poppell Olds/Mercedes in West Ft Worth, TX and Exxon had delivered bad gasoline to almost every one of their stations in that area. After a media nightmare and very wealthy individuals demanding them to do something, we, along with other dealerships, were authorized by them, (for those with certain date and time receipts which we were to collect and submit said receipts with our bill), to drain and clean the fuel tank, change all fuel filters, and overhaul the carburetor. And, if the "customer requested", we were approved to also change the oil and oil filter, too. It looked like a parade of wreckers dropping cars off all day for a week or so and for us on salary/commission ... it was Christmas in May!!!! Sorry you had to go through that!!!
You definitely got diesel, its not impossible, I see it at the repair shop I work at usually once every year or so. Customer gets towed in, no start and the fuel has that oily feeling to it. sometimes its the customers fault and they had pumped diesel by accident. But I've had plenty of customers show me the receipt from the station that clearly says they paid for, and pumped 87.
im guessing its half diesel
You got diesel. The fillers for the tanks at the gas station are all the same and usually all right next to each other. The "fail safe" is the pump handle itself. Diesel handles have a larger diameter spout that won't fit into a standard gasoline filler neck.
I may or may not have driven a mid 90s F150 for 4 years with a composite 2x8 holding the frame together. Missing torque boxes are far from no drive situation especially in the northern states. Half the vehicles here in northern MN have some percentage of bluetooth frame.
That diesel switch situation sucks. The problem is you'll go broke trying to fight BP legally if you had an engine failure. God forbid someone admits they messed up and do their best to correct their wrongs.
Thanks for the content Luke.
One thing that people easily forget when a unburnable substance is circulated through your engine is that a great deal of that fluid went straight past the cylinders and filled your exhaust system as well. I would expect a long time after the engine is in good health the hot exhaust gasses will continue to burn off whatever is left in the exhaust system. This same thing happens after fixing a bad engine that has been consuming oil or coolant. Several miles after the repairs are made you may be able to see a bit of smoke.
15 gallon tank. 16.7 gallons. All of it NOT gasoline! That's a bad time, Unca Luke! Sounds like the gas guy doesn't listen when she screams "WRONG HOLE!!"
That's a expensive insertion mistake!😮😮😮😂😂😂😂😂
Make them pay Luke
WHERE IS THE GAS STATION??
It saddens me that this is what it took to get a new video from Luke, but I am happy for the content. Thanks for taking us along on this sleuth like episode Luke. Hopefully we will see more of you soon.
Great to see another Thunderhead289 video, too bad about the fuel snafu, nice way of dealing with get Mav back up and running. Thanks for video, hope to see more later. Nice cameo from wife.
No…. bring back the Mighty Maverick
Someone offer a gas sample Analysis (diesel blended with gas)?
I'm not sure if it is or isn't desiel or what it is, but I plan to at least drop them off a sample when I'm back in town.
This actually just happened on Thursday evening, rare for me to turn around a video this quick
Keep some “fuel” for yourself, (self analysis for verification). Sure would be a shame for that station to get a bad rap for poor tank management… wink, wink.
Emily was right, idling is OK, but reving the engine often fixes a lot of problems,
and good for the motor head soul and spirit.
They sold you diesel.
Just saw your 40mpg video from along while back. Good to see you’re still alive.
My local Casey’s put normal gas in the premium and pinged it till it popped before I could do anything about it
Years ago I was on a road trip about 400 miles from home. I was fueling up the car when it just died.It seems the tanker truck had just dumped a bunch of diesel into the wrong hole although we didn't find out until later. The station took responsibility and paid for everything without haggling. Some starter fluid and a bit of fresh gas from the next station up the road got us running well enough to limp back onto the road until we got to our hotel. We got word of what the problem was so I bought a cheap gas can and some fuel hose to drain the tank. Fresh fuel and a short drive later the car was fine. Of course that left me with a cans of bad gas. I suggested leaving it by the car at the hotel one night. My wife thought I was crazy but sure enough someone stole it during the night.
Here in SW iowa, our local BP uses the same size nozzle for both gas and diesel, and has green handles on the gas pumps because that is their corporate color. We had many towed in cross-fueled both ways just from that one single station.
Good morning from Cape Cod 🦈 the way that it never evaporated tells me that's definitely diesel. Thank God you didn't damage your engine. Keep up the good work and the awesome content 👍✌️🇺🇲
Hey man, always good when you visit us on UA-cam. thanks for the updates. Yeah thats gotta be some diesel got pumped into the 91 tank.
I had a Lincoln that required two keys, a switch to be flipped, and a push button to start. If you counted the manual choke that was one more thing to know. I also had a seventies Impala that required you to hold the brake release for it to crank.
Got to be thankful you had no engine damage. I like your chain motor mount, had one on my 72 f100 because I constantly broke the driver side motor mount.
It's like having solid mounts without your teeth falling out. I love people ragging on it, just shows me how much h they don't know and how they have never felt the inertial effects of heavy v8 rotating mass.
Might not be the fastest stuff out there anymore, but it sure feels good.
I work at a dealership and I have seen a few cases of customers getting bad fuel and having to clean the tank and flush the fuel rails and injectors. I myself have picked up bad gas in my 2002 E350 van but luckily I already had gas in the tank so I could still drive. I had a random misfire P0300 for two weeks and it felt weak under load but cleared up on it's own as I drove it and added fuel.
Before I retired I drove gasoline tankers, it is not as common as it once was , but it can happen that the tanker driver puts Diesel in a regular gas tank ( by mistake ) ( at the service station ) , also when that happens usually the Service station will pay all damages.
Dad once put diesel in the old car so we hooked the carb up to a motorcycle tank on top of the motor and a bucket in the engine bay to collect the diesel while it ran. Lots of room on an old slant six for a five gallon bucket.
In Wisconsin we have KwikTrip and if you get damages from their fuel take in a report from a mechanic stating it was due to fuel along with and estimate for the repair and they will pay for it
I've had a similar issue but it turned out to be some type of waste solvent mixed with the gas in the ground tank. The car ran rough at start up but was okay when warm. Months later the station was in the news and described as part of a network of independent stations cycling industrial wastes through their pumps.
there's no interlock to prevent cross drops at a fuel station, they got diesel in there premium tank. iv had it happen on a fuel injected car, really not any worse drain disconnect the fuel line at the engine cycle the key to pump the tank empty re fill with good fuel.
You can have the fuel tested. Exactly how they find out and hold them accountable or the fuel delivery service. Honestly you deserve compensation for your troubles. We have issues with water in our local ones when it pours hard over 4 inchs. You can also have leeching from one storage tank to the other or into the ground and then into an adjacent tank. The hole its buried in fills up surrounding it can also seep into the tank. BP should have a nunber for you to report your issues also. Keep the "gas" and it can be used to prove your case. Your video is also proof. Especially the trunk test. Greasy non evaporatable says Diesel all over it. Fun video though even if it wasnt a planned one. Sorry for your troubles man.
Luke, I like your philosophy on life. My 67 Mustang Fastback looks like hell and has rust there in that torque-box area and everywhere else for that matter, but the engine and mechanicals have all been gone through by me. It's got a 94, 5.0 Cobra crate engine from Ford Racing and a B&M C4 Transmission that I installed along with all of the usual good stuff, (Weiand Stealth, Summit carb-600CFM, B303 cam, GT40 heads, 1.7:1 RR, full-length headers, Flowmasters, 9-inch Auburn posi, disc brakes, ect.). Being 72, I'll never get the chance to restore it, but it's a safe ride and it runs good. The looks that it draws are priceless, just the way it is. Keep on doin' what you're doin', Luke.
Keep me updated on that project. I'm thinking about carbing my 5.3
I was driving home on Friday 2.5hrs out of town in the 7.3. Filled up at a gas station then shortly after the truck started to be down on power. Shortly after it stalled, coasted into the gas station and found my filter was plugged. Cleaned the filter & it started and drove home.