A lot of stories try to capture the confusion before, or the crisis after, but rarely do they do both properly. You need both for the narrative to make sense, or you just end up with either no payoff to trying to understand, or meaningless payoff with no context to give it meaning. We're all hurting inside somehow, whether we're self aware about it or not. Often, introspection just makes us feel worse than if we suffered in blissful obliviousness, but it's something we have to be capable of and act on in order to move on.
He was never like "ima shit all over this game"... I know you're just using hyperbole but still. And I'm glad he stuck to his criticisms by the end of it despite how impressed and engaged he became. You people do not deserve full vindication
Mary and James’ story is tragic, but my heart always breaks for Angela. She’s not even in Silent Hill to find the same closure James gets to have (depending on the ending), just reliving the trauma as is usual for her. And she’s not the only one. “For me, it’s always like this” Also rip P.T.
My last ex was like that. Suffers from a myriad of disorders and unable to grow past them because she never tries to do anything but distract herself and go on living. I have to feel bad for her in spite of how toxic she is in large part due to those very issues. With these sorts of people, all you can do is leave them to it. They don't want help, they'll begrudge you for trying. You shouldn't hate them or hold ill-will for them either because it's just poisoning your own psyche to spite them. Now go watch the The Neverhood video and laugh at Klayman belching for a minute straight as Binyot questions his life choices.
P.T would nothing be like the original silent hill games it would just be filled with KOJIMA moments of characters saying deep shit and looking confused all the time
@@touchingisjustthefirststep Fuck cuntnami for dropping Kojima. (i know this comments 4 years old but PT was genuinely the first actually scary game i've ever played.
god the emotion in her voice when she was yelling at james for leaving her was so raw. the hd collection with professional voice actors just doesn't hit as well
Best VA in the whole series, honestly. The rest of the performances in SH2 work well purely as some bizarre, Lynchian rendering of broken weirdos, but Mary/Maria is just legitimately excellent. She can be so subtly threatening and unpredictable as Maria, and then so completely human and heartbreaking as Mary. Mary is the real heart and soul of Silent Hill 2 despite rarely appearing in the game itself (a lot like Laura Palmer in Twin Peaks, actually), so the voice acting had to be something special to really emphasize that. People behind the scenes evidently intended for that because the results really speak for themselves.
I remember decorating my basement for Halloween last year and listening to his streams of this. Now it’s my birthday, Halloween is tomorrow, and the day after that I’m having guests over to hang out in that same basement, which has just been redecorated for Halloween. Time is crazy, man.
@@penzorphallos3199 Team Silent said they believe the In Water ending is the true ending for them. Sort of supported by Silent Hill 4 which mentions James never came back from Silent Hill.
8-Bit Music Theory released a halloween special about it earlier today, going through interview footage with the devs and talking about different tricks they use to build unease... it was a really informative thing, could be worth a watch if you're interested in WHY the soundtrack is so good.
I love that the depth of storytelling even extends to the inventory. As the game progresses the letter gradually disappears until the last area where it's just an empty envelope...
That Shiba is alessas only grasp to kindness she had left. It's so powerful even it affects us irl into being in a better mood after the in water ending.
Silent Hill has such an effect on people Take this for example, Vinny starts off joking and ripping on the game and having fun, by the end he sounds broken. That’s just Silent Hill for you
Silent Hill 2: *A narrative that delves deep into themes of betrayal, reflection of past sins, and portrays a multitude of aspects that can be broken down and analyzed ad nausiem. Vinny: *B U S T E R S W O R D*
38:35 I was so tense and emotionally weary at this point in the stream that Vinny's little song here "video games are fun... make me want to die" made me unexpectedly roar with laughter. A pretty good synopsis of how crushingly effective and depressing the plot of this game turns out to be.
You mean to tell me the pathetic appearances of ph on homecoming have absolutely nothing to do with Alex's plot of familiar struggle and the very ending of him becoming a phead is a direct insult to the symbolism it has with James? Ludicrous.
Mary's dialogue in the hallway before the boss fight with Maria and the letter at the end still wreck me. My favorite game ever made. Hope Vinny checks out 1 and 3 in the near future, they're both such great games too.
@@dvdlesher all he said is that he's very interested in playing another someday, but not which or when. However. the joke is that they altered Mary's letter to fit this.
A lot of people say the English line reads sound so unnatural and stilted and bored, but I think that's genius. It sounds exactly like someone that's just had a traumatic experience and is struggling to express 'normal' levels of anger and surprise through their shock. ("How can you sit there and eat pizza!")
From what I've heard, the awkward voice acting was unintentional (the directors couldn't quite get across how they wanted it done due to the language barrier), but when analysing the game, it fits better into the narrative than the more professional voice acting the HD version had.
It sounds straight out of a David Lynch film, recommendation: Mulholland Drive. Edit: That movie doesn't even spell out the fact that the protagonist killed her GF, which actually makes the interpretation even more debatable.
Ill never forget the last stream,my dad was hospitalised and died the same weekend vinny finished this game. I finally understood how it was to have a loved one in agony and how they might act or feel. Mary's letter destroyed me (considering i had already listened to it several times throghout the years) yet i felt so much peace once the letter ended. Ill never forget that weekend.
8:23 "I'll just deal with... weird suspense, and not abject horror." Ah, the Silent Hill formula - from discomfort to disgust to terror in just 6 hours!
My favorite line is this game is "I was weak." - it symbolizes James finally coming to terms with everything, the town, his whole reason for being there, James is there originally knowing things were too good to be true but by then we know he has fully gone and realized his own sins and that he can no longer stop lying to himself.
I love how this game always gives people the same emotions, the first hours are kinda funny with the awkward dialogs then you finish the game literally broken or crying.
This game literally went all out and left almost nothing for future horror games, not even future sh games, all horror games are in a way just a rip-off of sh2.
I've been taking care of my mother for the last 7 months (terminal Illness), and.. I totally understand James' feelings and emotions.. it's so hard to see your love one in that state and from time to time I have hard feelings towards her 'cause I am not living my life I have given up way too much.
Holy cow, I remember staying up so late for like a month watching this stream live and I gotta say it is one of my favorites that Vinny has done, awesome to have this right before Halloween.
Some games can scare the player, very few can disturb the player. This game will stick with you in the dark recesses of your mind and eventually creep out once more, just like Silent Hill.
I've watched Vinny for about a decade now. I don't know if he's ever brought it up, but I'm almost certain his mother died of cancer. He mentions a lot of his family, but never her, and he gets a bit personally enraged when talking about how fucked up cancer is during charity events - events raising money for cancer research. As well, he mentions while playing this game how there's a lot of conflicting, intense emotions when a close family member is dying. While Mary didn't exactly have cancer - something more like a plague or pox - the ending areas of this game nail that conflict of emotions as you're helplessly losing someone close. How you can love someone so much you want them to die faster, just to be out of pain; or how you can find yourself resenting how much of your life begins to revolve around someone that is likely growing increasingly bitter about the hand they've been dealt. Of course, you want them to get better, but, there's a point where holding out that hope only hurts everyone involved. This game does a hell of a job of giving even those that haven't experienced such an event an idea of the confusion and guilt and remorse. When you know this experience personally - which, I do - it hits in a way no other media has ever done for me. If Vinny has been through such, I figure the ending quickly went from "video games" to uncomfortable reflection.
oh I remember watching this. This playthrough is really special to me, because of stuff that was going on in my personal life at the time that kinda related to the game in some fucked up coincidence. Thanks for putting this up.
Same But also this game was always special to me as a kid but as I got older and something tragic happened to someone I cared about This game ended up meaning so much more than a nostalgic game
Sarah Z i was having the worst months of my life last year since May to December I just didn’t feel good and hated myself for a lot of things going on, Vinny kinda helped me with this stream and other ones, SH2 was so heavy for me but now I know I can go on and be happy
Horror games work very well for commentators because you’re experiencing the same fearful scenarios as them, even without a controller in your hands. Plus, Vinny’s chill attitude compliments disturbing games exceedingly well.
@@maximvazhov6904 Nah, fair question. So, the way my sister died was suicide, she shot herself. In the aftermath I experienced everything from anger, sadness, betrayal, and the feelings between. Everyone told me when I even came close to entertaining the idea that I was partly to blame they would always tell me to not think of it or there was nothing I could do. The truth of the matter is I could've. This game and the ending I got, I came to the conclusion was that you could do something regrettable or even terrible, but this has happened and now it is a part of you, and that's okay. Don't let it consume you, you can move on and just take that guilt with as it will forever be with you and allow it to inform your decisions, learn from it, and move on. When I played this game I was still in a years long funk, and this brought me out of it. If I got the "In Water" ending, maybe that would've been bad. It's all a matter of perspective and I'm a little obsessed with people holding themselves accountable and not lying to themselves, hence my struggle with the guilt. Hope this helped.
@@Serpens6 I see now, sounds very comforting. You're, right, what doesn't kill us - makes us stronger. When playing this game, I've been thinking constantly about how lucky I am not to be sick with an incurable disease or not to have to deal with a relative or a friend who is about to die. This weight does require a man to have wide shoulders. Good to know you were able to overcome it and, most importantly, didn't get the water ending.
I once played a pirated copy of Silent Hill 2. For some reason whenever James would finish talking it would repeat the last syllable until he spoke again. It never stopped.
20:52 This could've been a masterclass in separating fact from fiction. I didn't realize it until later, but on Vin's stream when Maria asks "Don't you wanna touch me?", her voice comes on during the cutscene, with her lips not moving. I thought this was intentional at first. The cutscene plays so well with James' and the player's confusion about her getting stabbed (or even who she actually is), and then she lulls them in by putting her hand on James' face as proof that she's real, only to fuck with them again by saying something without moving her mouth.
I've been interested in watching Vinny play this actually! I heard that this was his first Silent Hill game, so I'm definitely heading to the full stream playlist when I get the chance. Thanks for the reminder though!
I really REALLY wanna see him tackle 1 and then 3, but that's highly unlikely. Alternatively, 4 is pretty good, though I would prefer to see him get the OG Silent Hill feeling before they started tinkering with the formula.
Dunno why you edited out the punch in the gut at 38:25 , the rest of that monologue probably has the biggest emotional impact in the game besides the ending credits. Besides that great work! Nice summary of the playthrough.
"This town is full of Monsters, How can you sit there and eat pizza!?" Probably one of the best quotes in the game. I really liked this game since i finished it, like a year ago or two. Had to get rid of all the dust in my ps2 and try sh2 for the first time, i gotta thank my uncle for taking good care of his ps2 games.
I have to hand it to the Silent Hill 2 team, they made a Dog ending and it's still really fucked up. Imagine James going through this hell, being put through the worst experience imaginable, and then finding out that it was all fake and masterminded by a Shiba Inu. There's no getting over that, you're traumatized forever.
it really means a lot to me that out of all the horror games vinny has played, the ones he found scariest were this game and SOMA, two games that i hold really dear to my heart and are my all time favorites
I used to live with my aunt who had two best friends named Mary and Maria lol. I also grew up in a small resort town with a lake, but it used to be a resort town. Now it just exists. It's known for being one of the hideouts for Al Capone, but the hotel he stayed at recently shut down. It was a historic building.
A quote from Takayoshi Sato, character designer and CGI director of this game, on the sexual elements that are so prevalent: "Psychological horror has to shake human's heart deeply. Shaking people's heart deeply means uncover people's core emotion and their core motivation for life. Everybody is thinking and concerning about sex and death. Everybody. If we want to scare, shake, or touch the users or spectators, then we have to think about sex and death deeply. To make like a death scene, somebody died or monsters died, we tried to mix erotic essence. This is kind of a visual and a core concept."
Funny enough, if I remember correctly Silent Hill 2 wasn’t originally well-liked, because of its diversions from the first game. Now it’s the most iconic entry in the series. Some things just get even BETTER with age. It’s surreal.
I loved this rollercoaster of emotions of watching you play SH2.. Starting out by shitting on it, then being on the verge of tears and an existential crisis, then just laughing at the dog ending. Truly an experience lol
@Adam Rhodes 536 Nah that ending's great. Out of all the SH joke endings, that one might just be the best one. The Suicide ending on the other hand...now that one is painful
adam’s the editor for this stream? this is a glow up! no wonder he’s been compiling the silent hill 2 streams on his personal channel.. THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN YOU ARE!
I remember watching a playthrough of this game around 10 years ago, back when I was in high school. I was too naive and innocent to understand what the characters were going through back then, but now as an adult I do and it hits a bit harder.
I’ve seen the “There was a hole here, it’s gone now” in Minecraft horror maps and I will always remember it for that unless I am reminded that it came from silent hill 2
I love how for the most of the game the VAs sound just bad but when you're towards the end, everything starts to make sense and you realize most of the voice are actually very good and emotional. Especially Angela's. It makes you even think over the pre definitions we have of normal and good lol
Very good to see this video pop up. Hope Silent Hill 1 is in his sights. Even if its not played during October. You can play scary games outside of October. Well he got a lot on his plate right now so obviously I'm not expecting it to be soon, just sayin' is all.
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this game makes no sense right up until it makes so much sense that it causes an exisistential crisis
Wouldn't have it any other way
That's what I felt like while playing Max Payne 3.
A lot of stories try to capture the confusion before, or the crisis after, but rarely do they do both properly.
You need both for the narrative to make sense, or you just end up with either no payoff to trying to understand, or meaningless payoff with no context to give it meaning.
We're all hurting inside somehow, whether we're self aware about it or not.
Often, introspection just makes us feel worse than if we suffered in blissful obliviousness, but it's something we have to be capable of and act on in order to move on.
I love that moment of pure existential horror :)
it's like a when you're on the metro and you don't feel it move until it stops and you're sent careening through the windshield
The "Can I show you something really horrifyi-" and then it cuts off at pyramid sex is probably the best comedic timing I've ever seen
"don't eat the ass"
“But yeah, I’m definitely into the weird creatures, and their weird twitchy-*Pyramid Head rape scene* uhh never mind.”
@@skirdus367 How the fuck Pyramid Head would eat ass?!
@@masterzoroark6664 skill
@@sheez7734 ...the worst part about this is that he has a little tentacle that sticks out of his pyramid face.
Love the way vinny goes from ima shit all over this game to _emotionally destroyed_
@Mial isus I mean, you totally are allowed to shit all over a piece of media no matter what themes it uses.
@Mial isus I mean you can't just say something you know is provocative and then run and hide without elaborating
@Mialisus lol okay. Silent hill 2 is old and garbage. Guess it's time for me to be tortured
He was never like "ima shit all over this game"... I know you're just using hyperbole but still. And I'm glad he stuck to his criticisms by the end of it despite how impressed and engaged he became. You people do not deserve full vindication
From "it's a PS2 game chat" to "video games are fun, I won't cry"
The real Silent Hill was the loved ones we lost along the way.
Holy fuck this hit me like a train :c
What?
The real silent hill is trying to understand what you're talking about
The real silent hill is the pizzas and the pastas we lost along the way.
420 like lol
"How can you sit there and eat _PIZZA_ ?"
When the characters are speaking directly to Vinny you know it's a good spooky game.
Forget you...
This chat is full of monsters
I know it's been a year already but I didn't know you watch Vinny
ew, it's him
Yo, what’s up Scrub
Mary and James’ story is tragic, but my heart always breaks for Angela. She’s not even in Silent Hill to find the same closure James gets to have (depending on the ending), just reliving the trauma as is usual for her. And she’s not the only one.
“For me, it’s always like this”
Also rip P.T.
My last ex was like that. Suffers from a myriad of disorders and unable to grow past them because she never tries to do anything but distract herself and go on living. I have to feel bad for her in spite of how toxic she is in large part due to those very issues.
With these sorts of people, all you can do is leave them to it. They don't want help, they'll begrudge you for trying. You shouldn't hate them or hold ill-will for them either because it's just poisoning your own psyche to spite them.
Now go watch the The Neverhood video and laugh at Klayman belching for a minute straight as Binyot questions his life choices.
P.T would nothing be like the original silent hill games it would just be filled with KOJIMA moments of characters saying deep shit and looking confused all the time
@@touchingisjustthefirststep Fuck cuntnami for dropping Kojima. (i know this comments 4 years old but PT was genuinely the first actually scary game i've ever played.
Mary/marias va is unironically great. Shes able to switch between uncanny and serious so well
god the emotion in her voice when she was yelling at james for leaving her was so raw. the hd collection with professional voice actors just doesn't hit as well
It starts off so cheesy and bizarre, but by the end it's like that was never the case and these lines are delivered with such a weight
Best VA in the whole series, honestly. The rest of the performances in SH2 work well purely as some bizarre, Lynchian rendering of broken weirdos, but Mary/Maria is just legitimately excellent. She can be so subtly threatening and unpredictable as Maria, and then so completely human and heartbreaking as Mary. Mary is the real heart and soul of Silent Hill 2 despite rarely appearing in the game itself (a lot like Laura Palmer in Twin Peaks, actually), so the voice acting had to be something special to really emphasize that. People behind the scenes evidently intended for that because the results really speak for themselves.
Vinnie asks plot related questions
Chat: "That's classified."
Vinnie asks joke questions
Chat: "That too, is classified."
Man I remember watching Vinny play this last year
That ending really made him choke up a bit then dog ending
I remember decorating my basement for Halloween last year and listening to his streams of this. Now it’s my birthday, Halloween is tomorrow, and the day after that I’m having guests over to hang out in that same basement, which has just been redecorated for Halloween.
Time is crazy, man.
Shame that he didn't get the Water ending, it's way more of a gut-puncher
@@Heavysweating itll forever be the true ending to me
@@penzorphallos3199 Team Silent said they believe the In Water ending is the true ending for them.
Sort of supported by Silent Hill 4 which mentions James never came back from Silent Hill.
Thank God for the dog ending, swole James and lewd Maria else the ending would have given clinical depression to some.
he's lusty for that crusty
Jaime Sundylundy
Clussy.
Hey it's meeh! uhohaha!
This sounds so much worse without context.
I read this literally just as he said it
the soundtrack to this game is incredible
It is one of my favorite soundtracks ever.
8-Bit Music Theory released a halloween special about it earlier today, going through interview footage with the devs and talking about different tricks they use to build unease... it was a really informative thing, could be worth a watch if you're interested in WHY the soundtrack is so good.
So true
I bought a Yamaha keyboard just to learn how to play Promise / Not Tomorrow.
Akira yamaoka is a musical genius glad he's composing for no more heroes 3
I'm not used to hearing vinny say jamie without going into low-power arnold voice
Too bad James never got any C O O K I E S.
"These are all the names of the kickstarter backers" hahahaha
"Also there might be some disturbing themes too."
Doesn't that apply to just about every single Vinesauce stream though?
I literally laughed with Vinny's laugh at this
Even bab games are disturbing.
What am I saying *especially* bab games.
@@Toluj330
Why he play babeh game
@@ImmaLittlePip because he no schuut
ImmaLittlePip BABEH GAME!? How Dare!!
Mary's Letter still makes me tear up, god damn
fucking makes me weep every time lol
Me too.
Only game that has moved me enough to cry. It's heavy and depressing.
the voice acting for that is on another level
I love that the depth of storytelling even extends to the inventory. As the game progresses the letter gradually disappears until the last area where it's just an empty envelope...
Reminder that the wiki refers to the dog as an all-powerful being created by Silent Hill.
That one dog is the entire thalamus of silent hill.
That Shiba is alessas only grasp to kindness she had left.
It's so powerful even it affects us irl into being in a better mood after the in water ending.
I mean, any of the endings can be cannon, even the secret ones if we wish.
Silent Hill has such an effect on people
Take this for example, Vinny starts off joking and ripping on the game and having fun, by the end he sounds broken.
That’s just Silent Hill for you
Silent Hill 2: *A narrative that delves deep into themes of betrayal, reflection of past sins, and portrays a multitude of aspects that can be broken down and analyzed ad nausiem.
Vinny: *B U S T E R S W O R D*
new theory!?!? pyramid head represents vinnys love for final fantasy 7
This entire game is just
*"Who really died that day?"*
aha türk
GREEN MARIO?
And who came back
It’s The who’s more ded psa
D4C
38:35 I was so tense and emotionally weary at this point in the stream that Vinny's little song here "video games are fun... make me want to die" made me unexpectedly roar with laughter. A pretty good synopsis of how crushingly effective and depressing the plot of this game turns out to be.
Remember folks, Pyramid head is only cannon to James. Every other one is fan service.
C u t t h e c a k e
You mean to tell me the pathetic appearances of ph on homecoming have absolutely nothing to do with Alex's plot of familiar struggle and the very ending of him becoming a phead is a direct insult to the symbolism it has with James?
Ludicrous.
13:43 How the hell did I not piece together that that was referring to the twin victims in Silent Hill 4??
7:09 Vinny thought it was joke....
7:39 Vinny finding out it wasn't a joke...
thanks for the timestamp! i came back here just for "hahaha. this my psychological hell! i love it here!"
“Jamie! Aim at the body, Jamie! James... Jamie Sundie-lundie.”
JAMIE GIVE ME THE COOKIE JAMIE
😂
to quote dunkey: "for a place called Silent Hill it sure is the loudest fucking place on earth"
Silent Hill 4: The Room
"Oh hi Piramid-Head!"
"Anyway, how's your sex life?"
"Oh hai Walter"
Haha what A story cult
There was a hole here, wait actually it's still here.
Mary's dialogue in the hallway before the boss fight with Maria and the letter at the end still wreck me. My favorite game ever made. Hope Vinny checks out 1 and 3 in the near future, they're both such great games too.
4 is good too. it's not as thematically deep as 2 and the second half of the game is kinda repetitive but it's still great imo.
In my restless dreams, I see that playthrough...Silent Hill 3. You promised you'd take me there some day Vinny, but you never did.
Hopefully not before he does Silent Hill 1. Its nice to have the extra connection.
Did he ever promised that though?
@@dvdlesher No
@@dvdlesher all he said is that he's very interested in playing another someday, but not which or when. However. the joke is that they altered Mary's letter to fit this.
BOOTI PLEES
A lot of people say the English line reads sound so unnatural and stilted and bored, but I think that's genius. It sounds exactly like someone that's just had a traumatic experience and is struggling to express 'normal' levels of anger and surprise through their shock. ("How can you sit there and eat pizza!")
Its very Lynchian and i love it
From what I've heard, the awkward voice acting was unintentional (the directors couldn't quite get across how they wanted it done due to the language barrier), but when analysing the game, it fits better into the narrative than the more professional voice acting the HD version had.
It sounds straight out of a David Lynch film, recommendation: Mulholland Drive.
Edit: That movie doesn't even spell out the fact that the protagonist killed her GF, which actually makes the interpretation even more debatable.
Ill never forget the last stream,my dad was hospitalised and died the same weekend vinny finished this game. I finally understood how it was to have a loved one in agony and how they might act or feel.
Mary's letter destroyed me (considering i had already listened to it several times throghout the years) yet i felt so much peace once the letter ended.
Ill never forget that weekend.
8:23
"I'll just deal with... weird suspense, and not abject horror."
Ah, the Silent Hill formula - from discomfort to disgust to terror in just 6 hours!
You forgot to mention actual and factual dread.
Huh?
And sadness and disgust and guilt, but the dog ending makes it all gud.
Haha I forgot vinny called James 'Jamie' throughout this. Might hav to rewatch tomorrow thanks for the memories binyot 🎃
My favorite line is this game is "I was weak." - it symbolizes James finally coming to terms with everything, the town, his whole reason for being there, James is there originally knowing things were too good to be true but by then we know he has fully gone and realized his own sins and that he can no longer stop lying to himself.
I love how this game always gives people the same emotions, the first hours are kinda funny with the awkward dialogs then you finish the game literally broken or crying.
3:37 There's a trash *SCHÜT.*
I had no idea this game went in this hard on every trauma one could possibly have
This game literally went all out and left almost nothing for future horror games, not even future sh games, all horror games are in a way just a rip-off of sh2.
I've been taking care of my mother for the last 7 months (terminal Illness), and.. I totally understand James' feelings and emotions.. it's so hard to see your love one in that state and from time to time I have hard feelings towards her 'cause I am not living my life I have given up way too much.
I hope things have gotten better for you man
It's amazing how much Vinny gets things right despite being blind, even the subtle things
Holy cow, I remember staying up so late for like a month watching this stream live and I gotta say it is one of my favorites that Vinny has done, awesome to have this right before Halloween.
Some games can scare the player, very few can disturb the player. This game will stick with you in the dark recesses of your mind and eventually creep out once more, just like Silent Hill.
Eighteen year old spoilers?! Vinny! You’re supposed to wait TWENTY years to spoil stuff!
Vinny speaking at the end is probably the closest I've ever heard him to tears. But then again this game really does punch you right in the feels.
I've watched Vinny for about a decade now. I don't know if he's ever brought it up, but I'm almost certain his mother died of cancer. He mentions a lot of his family, but never her, and he gets a bit personally enraged when talking about how fucked up cancer is during charity events - events raising money for cancer research. As well, he mentions while playing this game how there's a lot of conflicting, intense emotions when a close family member is dying.
While Mary didn't exactly have cancer - something more like a plague or pox - the ending areas of this game nail that conflict of emotions as you're helplessly losing someone close. How you can love someone so much you want them to die faster, just to be out of pain; or how you can find yourself resenting how much of your life begins to revolve around someone that is likely growing increasingly bitter about the hand they've been dealt. Of course, you want them to get better, but, there's a point where holding out that hope only hurts everyone involved. This game does a hell of a job of giving even those that haven't experienced such an event an idea of the confusion and guilt and remorse. When you know this experience personally - which, I do - it hits in a way no other media has ever done for me. If Vinny has been through such, I figure the ending quickly went from "video games" to uncomfortable reflection.
This game is so good and is surprising how well it aged. And how there's not many Triple A games that even scraped some of these themes
this game wasn't well received when it came out, only later it became as treasured as it is now
@@lukabrasi001 it was critically acclaimed when it came out and won awards
oh I remember watching this. This playthrough is really special to me, because of stuff that was going on in my personal life at the time that kinda related to the game in some fucked up coincidence. Thanks for putting this up.
FeelsStrongMan
Same
But also this game was always special to me as a kid but as I got older and something tragic happened to someone I cared about
This game ended up meaning so much more than a nostalgic game
Hey op hope things are much better for you
@@ImmaLittlePip oh hey pip, your here too. Cool
Sarah Z i was having the worst months of my life last year since May to December I just didn’t feel good and hated myself for a lot of things going on, Vinny kinda helped me with this stream and other ones, SH2 was so heavy for me but now I know I can go on and be happy
oh god no, i cant go through that ending again
i can’t... im not strong enough
For some reason I love seeing vinny play horror games. No real reason.
He lets the viewer get engaged with the story and has good reactions
He's just a good commentator, his reactions aren't exaggerated and he takes the piss just the right amount that it doesn't get annoying.
Horror games work very well for commentators because you’re experiencing the same fearful scenarios as them, even without a controller in your hands.
Plus, Vinny’s chill attitude compliments disturbing games exceedingly well.
9:45 What is she doing all alone out here on this boardwalk...
without any polish water ice? We've got mango, cherry, blue raspberry...
Holy shit that made me tear up, especially the ending.
Played this after my sister passed, really helped me.
Ouch, I’m sorry to hear of her passing. Rest In Peace.
Sorry if this comes off mean, but in what way did this help you? I feel like this game could make it only worse for you.
@@maximvazhov6904 Nah, fair question. So, the way my sister died was suicide, she shot herself. In the aftermath I experienced everything from anger, sadness, betrayal, and the feelings between. Everyone told me when I even came close to entertaining the idea that I was partly to blame they would always tell me to not think of it or there was nothing I could do. The truth of the matter is I could've. This game and the ending I got, I came to the conclusion was that you could do something regrettable or even terrible, but this has happened and now it is a part of you, and that's okay. Don't let it consume you, you can move on and just take that guilt with as it will forever be with you and allow it to inform your decisions, learn from it, and move on. When I played this game I was still in a years long funk, and this brought me out of it. If I got the "In Water" ending, maybe that would've been bad. It's all a matter of perspective and I'm a little obsessed with people holding themselves accountable and not lying to themselves, hence my struggle with the guilt. Hope this helped.
@@Serpens6 I see now, sounds very comforting. You're, right, what doesn't kill us - makes us stronger. When playing this game, I've been thinking constantly about how lucky I am not to be sick with an incurable disease or not to have to deal with a relative or a friend who is about to die. This weight does require a man to have wide shoulders. Good to know you were able to overcome it and, most importantly, didn't get the water ending.
I once played a pirated copy of Silent Hill 2. For some reason whenever James would finish talking it would repeat the last syllable until he spoke again. It never stopped.
Tourettes Hill 2
James if he were acoustic.
My god Vinny's stream of this game was so good, one of my all-time favorite vinesauce playthroughs ever
This game is kinda fundamental to me as a human being, so it was a pleasure to see Vinny experience it
20:52 This could've been a masterclass in separating fact from fiction. I didn't realize it until later, but on Vin's stream when Maria asks "Don't you wanna touch me?", her voice comes on during the cutscene, with her lips not moving.
I thought this was intentional at first. The cutscene plays so well with James' and the player's confusion about her getting stabbed (or even who she actually is), and then she lulls them in by putting her hand on James' face as proof that she's real, only to fuck with them again by saying something without moving her mouth.
You were always such a kidder, James.
Strangely enough, there's not a wasp woman in this game.
I left my legs back in Dusseldorf...Now I'm looking for my lost lover...the nuclear silo beneath Silent Hill.
Whenever I hear the name Maria I can only think of Shadow the Hedgehog.
Legit same here!! lmao
You're fucked then cause Maria is a pretty common name
I've been interested in watching Vinny play this actually!
I heard that this was his first Silent Hill game, so I'm definitely heading to the full stream playlist when I get the chance.
Thanks for the reminder though!
I really REALLY wanna see him tackle 1 and then 3, but that's highly unlikely. Alternatively, 4 is pretty good, though I would prefer to see him get the OG Silent Hill feeling before they started tinkering with the formula.
@@ChargeQM tfw this year i saw "Silent hill" and "vinesauce" on Fullsauce and its a FUCKING HALF LIFE MOD, FUCK
@@KOTEBANAROT womp womp
Dunno why you edited out the punch in the gut at 38:25 , the rest of that monologue probably has the biggest emotional impact in the game besides the ending credits. Besides that great work! Nice summary of the playthrough.
Yeah the video's already 40 something minutes, why cut down the big feel moments?
They cut out a lotta the best parts...
26:10 One of the most prophetic and foreboding thing Vinny has ever said.
God I love this game despite never playing it, and I'm super glad that Vinny got around to try it out. Such a good game.
Silent Hill 2 will forever be my favorite Silent Hill.
Spoiler Alert: Vinny did not enjoy "Silent Hill 4: The Room"
Surprise surprise
"This town is full of Monsters, How can you sit there and eat pizza!?"
Probably one of the best quotes in the game.
I really liked this game since i finished it, like a year ago or two.
Had to get rid of all the dust in my ps2 and try sh2 for the first time, i gotta thank my uncle for taking good care of his ps2 games.
Vinny... You made me happy.
I read the warning as "there might be disturbing memes ahead", which also isn't totally wrong.
I have to hand it to the Silent Hill 2 team, they made a Dog ending and it's still really fucked up. Imagine James going through this hell, being put through the worst experience imaginable, and then finding out that it was all fake and masterminded by a Shiba Inu. There's no getting over that, you're traumatized forever.
"Lusty for that Crusty" sounds like the name of one of those really, REALLY weird pornos.
Its a simpsons porn parody
it really means a lot to me that out of all the horror games vinny has played, the ones he found scariest were this game and SOMA, two games that i hold really dear to my heart and are my all time favorites
Did not expect my favorite channel for vinesauce edits to show up on the actual vinesauce channel.
Amazing work you guys!
I used to live with my aunt who had two best friends named Mary and Maria lol. I also grew up in a small resort town with a lake, but it used to be a resort town. Now it just exists. It's known for being one of the hideouts for Al Capone, but the hotel he stayed at recently shut down. It was a historic building.
Thank you for streaming this. It unclogged some emotional blockages I was having.
A quote from Takayoshi Sato, character designer and CGI director of this game, on the sexual elements that are so prevalent:
"Psychological horror has to shake human's heart deeply. Shaking people's heart deeply means uncover people's core emotion and their core motivation for life. Everybody is thinking and concerning about sex and death. Everybody. If we want to scare, shake, or touch the users or spectators, then we have to think about sex and death deeply. To make like a death scene, somebody died or monsters died, we tried to mix erotic essence. This is kind of a visual and a core concept."
holy fuck that hurt me in ways i didnt know a game from literally 2001 could
as opposed to a game figuratively from 2001?
exactly ralphie exactly
don't believe the lie that old games aren't legit. that's marketing right there
Funny enough, if I remember correctly Silent Hill 2 wasn’t originally well-liked, because of its diversions from the first game.
Now it’s the most iconic entry in the series. Some things just get even BETTER with age. It’s surreal.
@@Glory2Snowstar
Same thing happened with Mario sunshine and wind waker
Vinny: Cha can I show you something truly horrib...
Silent Hill 2: Hold that thought Vinny
The game actually looks nice! and the theme.. Didn't expect that tbh
I understand now how this game is "sacred"
I love how Vinny calls James “Jamie” it’s endearing and wondeeful
I loved this rollercoaster of emotions of watching you play SH2.. Starting out by shitting on it, then being on the verge of tears and an existential crisis, then just laughing at the dog ending. Truly an experience lol
this game is great but damn that ending is so painful
Which one? This game has a fuck ton of endings
@@Ashurman666 The dog ending, obviously
@Adam Rhodes 536 Nah that ending's great. Out of all the SH joke endings, that one might just be the best one. The Suicide ending on the other hand...now that one is painful
@@Ashurman666 the note ending lol
"i killed a human being..." No, James. you lose human being status when you kill a dog.
This is actually completely perfect, I just finished watching all the Silent Hill 2 streams!
42:57 Vinny puts out his feelings of the game, then makes a hilarious shift in gears
you know when it gets real when vinny puts a disclaimer
adam’s the editor for this stream? this is a glow up! no wonder he’s been compiling the silent hill 2 streams on his personal channel.. THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN YOU ARE!
“This MY psychological hell! I love it here!”
I remember watching a playthrough of this game around 10 years ago, back when I was in high school. I was too naive and innocent to understand what the characters were going through back then, but now as an adult I do and it hits a bit harder.
You must have had an easy life...
Secular Ascetic Compared to other people I did.
THE BEST BIRTHDAY PRESENT I EVER COULD HAVE ASKED FOR! Thank you so much to Vinny and Adam Rhodes 536 for this spooktacular compilation! :D
I’ve seen the “There was a hole here, it’s gone now” in Minecraft horror maps and I will always remember it for that unless I am reminded that it came from silent hill 2
I love how for the most of the game the VAs sound just bad but when you're towards the end, everything starts to make sense and you realize most of the voice are actually very good and emotional. Especially Angela's. It makes you even think over the pre definitions we have of normal and good lol
It’s a shame he never got to play the prologue where you get to play as Maria
Watching Vinny play this, truly shows the unique power of this game. The way it sneaks up on you
Very good to see this video pop up. Hope Silent Hill 1 is in his sights. Even if its not played during October. You can play scary games outside of October.
Well he got a lot on his plate right now so obviously I'm not expecting it to be soon, just sayin' is all.
Jamie, I'm losing power Jamie. Give me the Health Drink, Jamie, give m e t h e H e a l t h D r i n k J a - a - a m i e.
PUT THAT PIZZA DOWN, *NOW*
0:25
change da world
my final message. Goodb ye
I remember this... My gosh, what an emotional rollercoaster it was.
Yess Great job Adam love your highlights
classic for the ages
Fuck man, I keep crying every single time.
Man I could listen to you theorizing forever. This game is great and I've never played anything that comes close to how uneasy it makes me feel.
I recommend watching RagnarRox's analysis videos! They're really in-depth and interesting
@@cai_in_the_sky2222 Oooh! I will check out for sure.
I definitely needed this today. Thank you
The fact he got "leave" in his first, blind playthrough is badass
This gonna be real spooky.