First 250 HP Production Superbike? | V4 Superleggera
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- Who will be the first manufacturer to produce a 250 HP superbike? Video starts on Pacific Coast Highway in Malibu, California and goes up the Santa Monica mountains via Las Flores. If you enjoyed this video please help support the channel by sharing it on Facebook and Twitter. It helps me tremendously and I appreciate your support. Cheers!
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Dear Fancy! Please spill some light on the panigale flat or progressive linkage position as well as spring rates. I'm 205lbs and I cracked my brain in trying to understand how to set all up. Thanks in advance!
Short answer...have the bike setup for your weight by a race shop with you on the bike in the flat linkage setting. Longer answer...with the progressive linkage setting the bike's suspension is more compliant for street riding or carrying a passenger. The flat setting is better suited for carving canyons or track riding as the suspension dynamics are more linear in response to road excitation. The most significant change you're going to make on the bike is decreasing your steering rake by jacking the rear a bit. It will make the bike easier to steer. This can be done by increasing the rear spring preload. Take it to a shop, set the rear linkage to flat, sit on the bike, and have them adjust the front and rear ride height / preload. Put it in race mode and go test ride it on your favorite stretch of road. 1199 and 1299 have very different damping coefficient parameters, so I can't give you my settings. The factory settings are a little on the low side, but start there an adjust up. Don't overdamp the bike. Steering damper is 5-7 clicks. I'm 185 / 190 lbs and have no issues with the stock springs. At 205 you should be ok with the stock springs. I have my linkage set to progressive because I do a lot of commuting and want the compliance. Cheers!
@@FancyAnimal thanks! will try
@@Quattordici Gentlemen, here is the information you seek ... a guru is available if you're interested. ua-cam.com/users/CatalystReactionSBWsearch?query=panigale
Thanks for not being PC in your vids. Hardly any genuine channels left. Loved the ride. Keep on keeping on
what do you mean pc in your vids
TheMacki95 TheMacki95 how he talks and the driving, he’s not scared of passing on doubles yellows (when’s it’s safe of course) and going above the speed limit
Elsa Rosenberg yes non pc is the reason UA-cam is choking my subs. I’m waiting for Disney to buy UA-cam so I’ll be forced to ride in yoga pants using proper gender pronouns.
@@FancyAnimal It'd choke you anyway since you're not spreading prescribed oppressive narrative and are actually entertaining people (Case Study: PewdiePie) and also you are not a representative of the actual slavers (Case Study: Steven Crowder). Democrats dont like the fact that people have an escape from their constant brainwashing, as it needs to be constant for it to work. The only way youd have a push on YT is if you were spreading REAL white supremacist narrative as DonLemon on CNN. What you're doing is really important. Ill see you in a few days when I get out of jail for posting this comment lol - sincerely an LGBtQ Immigrant Person of Color and Woman who has left the plantation and wholl never vote democrat.
@@FancyAnimal LOL! NEVER! We'll all just move to another platform. The animal will not be suppressed!
Another good piece, Mr. Animal. 250 HP... It's a wet dream and a nightmare at the same time. I don't think I would want that. Honestly, I'll never be that good. We all think we are hot shot pilots right? And hey, I'm not bad at all! But you have to be really good to get the most from a machine like that. So I'm not sure how useful the bike would actually be. Would you actually track the thing? You would have to be in a position where you could afford to replace it outright for it to make any sense. Don't get me wrong, if one is in that position - have at it, bustah! Fucken Ducatis are rolling art anyway! I love em. I'll never have one but I do have a deep appreciation for them. So thanks again for the piece.
When I see Fancy Animal has a new upload that makes my day! Stay safe and please give me more of that California sunshine because it's -2F and grey up here.
True North are you in the Arctic or upstate New York?
@@FancyAnimal Ontario Canada
when the panigale V4R came out i immediately tought they would make a 1100 cc V4R => that will make it 250 HP ;-)
finally a bike for me ;-D
Just curious.. Is it worth getting the new V2 panigale or just grab a 2019 V4 with all the discounts they are offering? Is there going to be a huge difference in the insurance cost between the v2 and v4?
SuperMingHaHaS it probably varies by state, but the insurance cost will be negligible between a 959 and a 1103cc. Geico has the lowest rates in California. Age, experience, and a rider safety course are the 3 big factors outside the bike type. I pay $50/mo for my bike with full coverage. As for which bike, ride them both. V4 is a handful vs V2 on the street.
Happy new year wishing you all the best in 2020
charlie ryan thank you sir. Many happy returns to you and yours.
I suppose given the hyperbike criteria laid out at the start of the video, displacement or forced induction is irrelevant. As long as it only weighs twice as much in lbm as peak hp.
With that said, I suspect a few manufacturers could meet this criteria tomorrow if they wanted. 1200-1300 cc in a current superbike chassis, using seriously oversquare bore/stroke would allow this bike to rev almost as high as a literbike and weigh just a little more. S1200RR-HP4 or RSV4 1300 Factory SE is what I mean.
Hmmm, makes me realise I should take the 1299s out for a spin, although it’s winter here in the U.K. what I do know is that the bike has more than enough performance for me.
Nick Murray you chaps get mostly cold rain rather than snow in the winter?
Fancy Animal as I am in London, yes, cold hard rain which means I spend longer cleaning the bike after a ride than actually the ride. Just love the blue sky in EVERY ONE of your videos 😂
10:18 is where I went off the road...have now idea how I did not go down the side...slide onto the edge...broken wrist and two ribs...but walked away. Technical roads up there!!!!
Ducati Drew damn jimmy: Glad you’re not winged, transparent, and playing a gold harp. The roads are technical and there are always mini holders in your line. Either that or someone doing a 3 point turn on a blind corner when you’re coming in hot. Be safe chief.
So out of all the bikes you talked about what would be your first choice to buy?
H2R puts out 326hp. there's always a market for high HP bikes. like the guys with just t-shirt on.
those guys usually spend a lot more than your typical track/canyon bros. the manufacturer who puts out the fastest bike usually wins their wallets.
I rode this road last week! Good memories
Lumens Photography amazes me how few bikes are out there when it’s 60 degrees. Perfect riding weather.
Great vid man, as usual FA, whereabouts are all those gorgeous twisty roads, is that in the Californian Mountains? excuse my down under ignorance ;)
Glenn Taylor yes, video starts on Pacific Coast Highway in Malibu and goes up the Santa Monica mountains via Las Flores Rd. Cheers Mr. Dundee!
Are those gouges / holes in the asphalt either side of the double solid yellows on your canyon run? Noticed them on The Smoking Tyre videos too. Don't have them in Scotland. We just have potholes to slow us down 😉😂
Those are recesses which house reflectors so you can follow the road while drifting your Avendator at night in the rain.
@@FancyAnimal 😂 Ours are in a soft rubber housing. Still not great, but much more forgiving if you are already out of shape and have left your Lamborghini at home.
Yoga pants can be a blessing or a curse. Ever walk into a Wal-Mart?
lol
Cheer yourself up next time with party size Cheetos, 8 lbs of peanut butter, Egg McMuffin, and an eye exam.
Par excellance!
Nice vid!
What's you're recording/mic setup? Every other motorcycle vid has horrible audio of wind noise and some guy trying to yell over it. What makes yours not suck? Great vid btw
I think that the panigale v4r does not come with the akrapovic exhaust. It only had installed dry clutch from the factory. Only the panigale v4 speciale comes included with akrapovic exhaust and rizoma accessories...
All V4 Panigales have the Akra System with upmap as an option through authorized Ducati dealers, including the V4R. The R is designed for that system. The Speciale includes the Akra as standard equipment, however it is installed at the dealer. after removing the regular exhaust system.
Think you forgot to link the music in the description. Would love to check it out.
Paul Stabler linked. New stuff coming.
Does the V4R really come with the Akra? I thought only the Speciale did.
The Akra system with upmap is an option for all V4 Panigales including the V4R and is available at all authorized Ducati dealers. For the Speciale it was included in the standard price, but installed at the dealer. V4R is 221HP with factory cans. 234HP with Akra.
I love my V4s but need a video on how easily the mirrors snap off. Ugg.
This is how Ducati keeps the aftermarket companies in business.
I want to hit up newcombs tomorrow but it google is telling me that the roads are closed... :(
ghost32087 someone told me there’s an alternate route, but I’m unfamiliar with it. Only been up there a few times.
Hahahaha thank you Jesse's for the yoger pants lmao 😂😂😂
I just want a smaller displacement V4 from Ducati.
Matthew Humenansky VFR 800.
Yoga pants 😅😍
AKA yeast infection pants
The akra system that brings it to 234 hp isn't homologated with a cat and is not street legal btw.. it's an additional $5,000 IIRC option on top of the V4R price tag. So $50,000 motorcycle that can't keep up on the track with the new BMW S1000RR that costs half that much. If you really want sticker shock look at the maintenance schedule for for the V4R.
Also GP bikes don't have much more than 250 hp. If you want to try it now you can get an RSV4 with the factory works kit. It has a gas charged pneumatic valvetrain and is guaranteed to put out over 250 to the wheels
No one is setting lap times with the S1000RR in light of the cracking engine cases, oil starved transmissions, failing brake calipers requiring dealer overhaul kits, recalled leaking oil coolers, and poorly managed production supply chain making 2020 models in time for 2021. Nice try though...wish BMW was doing as well in WSBK.
Fancy Animal yeah, the new BMW launch has gone down like a lead balloon... although Kawasaki have proven you don’t need the best or most powerful road bike to win races. Personally the new Daytona or Pani V2 get are more fun on the road then any of the hyper bikes.
The BMW is a brand new resigned bike. Give it a year or two to work out the kinks. It's a solid platform to start from considering it keeps up with both the Aprilia and V4 1100cc bikes. The variable cam timing is going to be a necessity for manufacturers from here on out.
They still shouldn’t rely on customers as beta testers. Friends of mine with the previous model also had their fair share of issues. Still, looks like a great bike, but that’s the case for all superbikes.
@@jamsxr it's not beta testing at all. It's pushing the limits of manufacturing tolerances and engineering. Maybe BMW cut a little too close to the quik but they are 100% on the leading edge of development. The V4 had to push a 10% displacement increase for basically marketing copy to look competitive on paper because they lost ~3% power due to their counter rotational crank. BMW has better tech in place because they didn't have to cheat on displacement in order to stay competitive on the track. Manufacturers have to play by the rules of WSBK because it helps them sell the most bikes.. and with the WSBK rules in mind, conveniently the V4R just barely comes in below the max price tag at $50,000 to be compliant when the S1000RR isn't anywhere near that expensive. That's what I was talking about. It's pretty hilarious. I'm not a fan of the new BMW but you need to give it to them for pushing the other OEMs so hard.
And im just happy to own a 2018 Gsxr 750..
Hell..ive stayed in trouble with the law..I just cant imagine having another 100 hp at my wrist..
250bhp 😱, I used to Think my FZR600 was fast thing would be a learner machine these day's !
D C some day people will laugh that we moved around on wheels rather than antigravity wet farting between locations at light speed.
Superleggera translation = spaghetti-bomber ! :] ]
happy new year FA
Same to you chief
I hear Kawasaki is supposed to have a new 10rr for late 2020 or early 2021.
Anyone of these high dollar bikes, from Ducati to Harley CVOs, remember, the second you ride off the lot, take off $40+% off to depreciation 🤮👎.
You better be happy to hang these thing on a wall, cause you’ll never make your money back unless it’s an oval piston Honda. NS
Well, I am probably one of the only people who done sell things. I buy something, I keep it forever. My bikes will never be sold. I never baught a bike with resale in mind... that just boggles my mind why people eve think of resale... just dont get the bike if you plan to sell it..
Corey DRIZZLE
You are one of the few, cause there’s always gonna be a better Bike, better new toy to ride.
Kinda like relationships, everyone wants to lease their new girlfriend, Boyfriend, cause there’s always a new piece of Ass that catches your eye.
1299SL has actually gone up in price. It will probably be a lot more in 20 years time too.
Lumens Photography
It will be worth what someone is willing to pay for it. 🤷♂️🤷♂️
How many miles do you usually get on a full tank?
justice mcdaniel fuel light comes on at 110 miles in mixed riding with 25-30 in reserve. So 135 miles to empty, 170 miles highway to empty, 32mpg mixed. 40mpg highway.
Fancy Animal man that’s not bad at all. I’m thinking of picking up a 1199 when I get back home. Or a aprillia rsv4.
justice mcdaniel as hard as it is for me to say this, the RSV4 is a far superior handling bike. It’s effortless to carve corners with. I’ve had the 1199 5 years now and it isn’t getting any easier. It’s way more fun and exotic than the Aprilia, but a serious handful. 1299 is a significant improvement with the steeper rake, lower swing arm pivot, and superior electronics. But still a workout compared to the Aprilia. Cheers!
Fancy Animal thank you for the info sir. I will definitely have to do a couple of demo rides in the future, thanks.
Ower 200hp is just more top speed.
Doesn't matter otherwise cause you can't put it down to the ground.
A Panigale V2 is awesome.
155 hp is plenty.
Idk, zx10r is a sleeper. 200+ whp with exhaust flash tune. I surprise a lot of people with my zx10r
It’s not a sleeper in the roll racing community here in the USA 🤣 every single roll racer has a zx10r since it’s the fastest straightline bike you can buy just check my UA-cam or check out “EJR Performance” on UA-cam his zx10r destroys turbo zx14s any Ducati’s and s1k
They are using the same displacement to make more HP, makes it more peaky. I have a 1299S and would gladly take 20HP away and trade it for 20LB tq in the mid range..
Norevlimitr buy an 1198
@@FancyAnimal I had a 1098 many years ago. Panigale is 10 steps ahead of that bike in every way, a true ripper.. As you obviously know..
Dude tell me they didn't put in rumble strips up past the rock store!?!?
Last time I was there they just had signs and road blocks about 1/4 mile past the Rock Store. Snake is closed for the foreseeable future.
What a bummer! I hope it’s closed for repairs and not due to racing activities.
The h2 with a ecu flash makes well over a 250 crank hp LOLOL we don’t have to wait. And if you say that doesn’t count the v4r doesn’t make 230hp without a ecu flash and full system. The h2 only needs a ecu flash not even bolt on parts and it will make over 240 WHEEL hp so around 270hp to the crank. A zx10r was dynod at 209whp by brocks performance more than what the v4r dyno by 650ib