Understanding Carving, video #2 of 3

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  • Опубліковано 11 лют 2025
  • A clinic covering inside leg activity for carving, stance, stacking, ski design, drills etc, "The Taos Way" with Alain Veth Technical Director of the Taos Ski Valley Snowsports School
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  • @TwoHelmetsDC
    @TwoHelmetsDC Місяць тому +14

    Incredible generosity to release this series to the world! Thanks!

    • @anatoli28
      @anatoli28 Місяць тому

      @@TwoHelmetsDC ajjaj

    • @newagain9964
      @newagain9964 Місяць тому

      SECONDED! Or technically fourth-ded. 😌

  • @tonyg3091
    @tonyg3091 Місяць тому +11

    I can watch Alain ski 24/7.

  • @MaxRank
    @MaxRank 28 днів тому +3

    This is my primary focus this year. Higher edge angles. I solved my previous issue when I began carving by simply narrowing my stance. I had way too much spread which resulted in my legs and ankles working against each other. Falling leaf drills helped tremendously with my balance and fore and aft pressure. Highly recommend this drill. Build confidence at the same time. Patience is king when learning to carve in my view, let the skis turn you just wait for them to grip and your off.
    Great stuff again Deb. Safe skiing this season everyone.

  • @nigelkibble4803
    @nigelkibble4803 12 днів тому +1

    I’ve just returned from a week of skiing in Val D’Isere having been lucky enough to watch this series beforehand.
    For me personally, I’ve found its taken me from being a passenger to being the driver. Given me much better control and power in my turns.
    Thanks for sharing!

  • @ThomasElbanna-ue3sx
    @ThomasElbanna-ue3sx Місяць тому +16

    Deb, thank you and Alan for sharing Taos instructor training on youtube. Not every instructor trainer wants to share their morning session.
    Comments, great video taping of Alans lower body movements while skiing, his fluid, coordinated movements of his ankle, knees and hips give him such control of his 2 legs throughout the arc. I especially liked how he varied his tempo without disturbing his foot movements.
    Great trainers are students of their sport, you are fortunate to have great staff training at Taos.
    Best regards,
    Thomas
    Whistler Blackcomb
    BTW, JF Beaulieu posted on youtube 10 years ago a comparable staff training video of a morning session at WB.watch it its also really good

  • @jerl.980
    @jerl.980 Місяць тому +4

    This is a gem on unleashing way better turns. Thanks for this.

  • @warrenoberholser
    @warrenoberholser 26 днів тому +1

    Amazing video Deb- thank you so much for posting!😀

  • @TomHolliday9
    @TomHolliday9 Місяць тому +1

    Looking fwd to pt 3.. this one was a season's worth of information.. Thanks to both you and Alan for sharing this information. I did a variation of the "carving falling leaf" in a PSIA clinic years ago and never forgot the impact it made on my skiing.

  • @jimmartinson4280
    @jimmartinson4280 25 днів тому +1

    Another excellent video.

  • @DannyStarr1976
    @DannyStarr1976 26 днів тому +1

    wow this guy can ski, he's a pleasure to watch and listen to

  • @Skibum2023
    @Skibum2023 Місяць тому +2

    Wow. That was so insightful! Simply amazing. Thank you 😊

  • @pawelfronczyk1579
    @pawelfronczyk1579 Місяць тому +9

    5:41 My core is engaged but my quads are not, to me this is the most important info from this video. You can ski like that all day long.

    • @MOWFWDU
      @MOWFWDU Місяць тому +3

      not a ski instructor and I am 72 this season. This is one of the reasons a friend said to me "you are an old man who skis like a young man"

  • @ehthrough
    @ehthrough Місяць тому +8

    A carving falling leaf, what a cool idea! I can't wait to play with that drill!

    • @paulgeoghegan7433
      @paulgeoghegan7433 Місяць тому +3

      Veth does say to pick your terrain carefully. I wouldn't try this with any other skiers uphill of me on the trail. No one expects you to traverse the trail backwards. In the real world, this is a recipe for a collision.

    • @ehthrough
      @ehthrough Місяць тому +1

      @@paulgeoghegan7433 Thank you for the safety reminder! As with any drill, terrain selection and 360 awareness is essential.

    • @TwoHelmetsDC
      @TwoHelmetsDC Місяць тому

      right??

    • @newagain9964
      @newagain9964 Місяць тому

      ⁠@@paulgeoghegan7433as long as as the uphill skill is of good distance (and skill) shouldn’t be bothered by a skier going down backwards zig.

    • @stephen-he4iw
      @stephen-he4iw Місяць тому

      9:38 for those who didn't see

  • @Setup0exe
    @Setup0exe 19 днів тому

    Thank you very much @DebArmstrongSkiStrong, I am from Armenia, I have learned a lot watching your videos ❤

  • @roblipton9121
    @roblipton9121 Місяць тому +1

    really great info! My "go to" explanation when I'm coaching/teaching is "big toe little toe" Really keeps the inside ski dynamic, reminds your body, especially when you're starting to blow out a bit. I also emphasize the pedal motin you start to feel coming off the tongue of the boot without lifting your heel on either ski

  • @frankm2588
    @frankm2588 Місяць тому +1

    "Without any tip lead." At 15:35. That is right, pulling the inside ski back and holding it back is really helpful.

  • @hehexd4557
    @hehexd4557 Місяць тому +1

    More stagger more swagger 🔥

  • @williamfox1146
    @williamfox1146 Місяць тому +1

    Excellent lesson.

  • @daniel221078
    @daniel221078 Місяць тому +1

    YES YES YES ❤

  • @guyvaes9503
    @guyvaes9503 Місяць тому +2

    Only now I realise that you can finetune the arc of the turn with the inside leg. Thx !

  • @daniel221078
    @daniel221078 Місяць тому

    So, finally watched the video. Carving is not that easy if you wanna do it properly, it took me almost 2 seasons from simple :2Oh damn, that thing turns once on the edge" to :"GOD DAMN IT THAT SH..... IS FUN as F...". And what I realized, my upper legs hurt after a long slope, could be my aggresive skiing style but 3h carving an my day is over :-) Thanks again and greetings from Stubai Glacier

  • @mtbikerbob
    @mtbikerbob Місяць тому

    Deb these are very insightful videos, thank you for sharing. I am struggling a bit on when the inside leg becomes unweighted. In both videos Alain seems hyper focused on drills to keep the inside leg engaged and in sync with the outside leg but there have been points in each video where the opposite is being reinforced without clearly stating why. In the first video at the 17:50 point Alain is saying that for the falling leaf drill if the inside leg is not unweighted you are not ski modern, but doesn't explain. In this video near the end about the 13:50 point Alain is saying to lift the inside leg toe to control the arc but again not really clear what or why that is so.

    • @DebArmstrongSkiStrong
      @DebArmstrongSkiStrong  Місяць тому +4

      Pressure is a huge element which Alain doesn’t cover too much. In other words, while these videos are comprehensive, they are not the end all be all to absolutely everything relating to Rotary and carving and blending of the skills. There’s always much to explore. I have a few videos on pressure and you can look towards those. Keep exploring, keep seeking, always learning. In skiing, it is lifelong.

  • @JavierSerraltaSanMartin
    @JavierSerraltaSanMartin Місяць тому +1

    Thanks.. so true.. Desactivating retracting the inside leg at the right time is the key.. com moving inward.. legs independent of upper body.. dynamic balance.. being skeletically aligned.. no twisting..great tips.. helps a lot.. cheers

    • @JavierSerraltaSanMartin
      @JavierSerraltaSanMartin Місяць тому

      Dont you think if you have sore knees and back.. arthitis at 60 ...that it becomes more difficult to do it.. relying more in the inner leg.. skidding a bit to protect.. i do explosive conductive skiiding a bit to solve that problem..

  • @davidjulander
    @davidjulander Місяць тому +2

    Who finally convinced Alain to put a helmet on?

  • @redsock4843
    @redsock4843 Місяць тому +9

    Learning How to Carve with The Highest Edge Angles | Hip to Snow, Stomp It Tutorials (3 days ago, Instructor is Tom Gellie)

    • @todortodorov4642
      @todortodorov4642 Місяць тому +2

      Amazing video

    • @laowai2000
      @laowai2000 Місяць тому +1

      Tom is amazing!

    • @mamu-e7c
      @mamu-e7c Місяць тому +1

      Tom is great, but the explanation of basic carving mechanics presented here is really a prerequisite for everything else.

    • @redsock4843
      @redsock4843 Місяць тому +1

      @@mamu-e7c Absolutely, I completely agree with you. I didn't put this link in because I had something to criticize about the above video, but rather it was intended as a supplementary reference. That way you would have the entire spectrum in its full range, from the basics and fundamentals to what could almost be described as artistic perfection.

    • @laowai2000
      @laowai2000 29 днів тому

      @@mamu-e7c So much information on this channel. Great resource, many videos that warrant re-watching again and again to ensure you are taking it all in.

  • @burnhamwarndt
    @burnhamwarndt Місяць тому

    Deb, watching from Aspen and Aspen Mtn SS. Very good videos !! I enjoy Alain's fluid loosness in his skiing and presentation
    and his so French love of skiing.(I shoot video for AMtn SS and am curious what mic you used on Alain ? Very effective).
    Keep up the good work !!! Thank you !!

  • @peripheral1258
    @peripheral1258 Місяць тому +1

    ps: I'd love a long interview where 'you guys' cover ski development from about 2000. You know the 'modern ski age' when skis could actually arc because they had 30-40mm+ side-cuts. Discuss from Elan SLX, Head World Cup Full Metal Jacket or Volkl P30/P40 and so on to them recent Fischer CT's -which are ACL-eaters if you fall inside... Rossi WC Sl's felt like my feet were nailed to a rail and if I fell over my life was over. Do you or Alain ever get out on WC level tuning ?? Not fun with no mercy...

  • @swissfreedom7594
    @swissfreedom7594 Місяць тому

    Using Stöckli skies helps of course :)

  • @uop42
    @uop42 2 години тому

    It sounds like the advice of upper and lower body separation, specifically leaning the shoulders down the hill towards your outside ski is opposite to his advice. I’ve been told to do ‘touch your outside boot with your hand’ drills to feel this sensation, is he saying not to do that?

  • @darcyrt
    @darcyrt Місяць тому

    Another great video!!! Deb; a question: I am trying to understand the lifting of the small toe to help clear the inside leg in the turn. Its not clear to me how to do that?

    • @DebArmstrongSkiStrong
      @DebArmstrongSkiStrong  Місяць тому +3

      Watch, rewatch, listen, watch, Alain gives many cues

    • @darcyrt
      @darcyrt Місяць тому

      @@DebArmstrongSkiStrong Good advice. Thanks.

  • @marcin23228
    @marcin23228 28 днів тому

    Hello i have head supershape ski. Can you tell me where can I rearrange my equipment to make even tighter turns and go lower? Tilt my shoes and move the fittings forward?

  • @vettndr
    @vettndr Місяць тому

    Thanks a lot for this content! I have a question, is the coach “pushing” when is trying to explain how to start railroad tracks with tipping the inside foot?

    • @DebArmstrongSkiStrong
      @DebArmstrongSkiStrong  Місяць тому

      Alain looks clean to me, clean carve

    • @vettndr
      @vettndr Місяць тому

      @@DebArmstrongSkiStrong 7:36 here he is speaking about “pressing” and engaging the inside foot right? I don’t understand if I have to “push” at the very beginning of the turn when I’m trying to carve and also doing railroad tracks exercise. I really love how fast he is changing the direction when he is doing that

  • @CB-qf8yx
    @CB-qf8yx Місяць тому +1

    I heard him say you can't do the falling leaf with a narrow stance. Then later he called this technique "wide carving." Interesting

  • @otisregatoni617
    @otisregatoni617 Місяць тому

    Solid 63 year old skier

  • @dianeboross6978
    @dianeboross6978 Місяць тому

    This is really tough to change when you learned A-framing at knees and pinching at the waist for straight skis. Still, I will give this a try because, I believe, it works better in more extreme weather conditions.

    • @DebArmstrongSkiStrong
      @DebArmstrongSkiStrong  Місяць тому +2

      You can do it 💪👍😉

    • @dianeboross6978
      @dianeboross6978 Місяць тому

      @@DebArmstrongSkiStrong Thank you for the vote of confidence, Deb. Truly appreciated.

  • @TontonPanda
    @TontonPanda Місяць тому +1

    Inside leg.

  • @sanin73
    @sanin73 Місяць тому

    Let's call it Carving Leaf.

  • @peripheral1258
    @peripheral1258 Місяць тому +1

    Way to go Deb. Tom Gellie and his peers and them Swiss guys like Kili Weibel and Pat Batz or Valtorio Molfato of 'lagrandeneve'... are really good but Alain...Welll: Aren't them World Cuppers on a different planet? His point on 'they ride a snake with no idea' kinda sums up 'my fat skis carve'.

    • @peripheral1258
      @peripheral1258 Місяць тому +1

      Watching this again and probably Again... this guy makes really good points that I haven't heard before From anyone. Last vid he was adamant about 'if your stance changes; I can do nothing with you'. ps: funny how some in this discussion have ubiquitous mid-fats on hard snow for a hard-snow lesson. Skinny Skis Rule!

    • @davidbeazer9799
      @davidbeazer9799 Місяць тому

      @@peripheral1258One of my pet peeves. Instructors in a carving clinic on fat skis! I know it’s a money issue.

    • @peripheral1258
      @peripheral1258 Місяць тому +1

      @@davidbeazer9799 Buy used and put a grind on 'em... old Dynastar FIS Sl's -$40 or Blizzard S-Power $26 or Atomic Redsters = $35 and they're in the ballpark of my 2022 Fish SC's. So many skis so little time

  • @williamfox1146
    @williamfox1146 Місяць тому

    Too bad there is not more snow this winter at Taos.

  • @GMec78
    @GMec78 Місяць тому

    With the active toes and feet required to carve skis I wonder about boot fit. Too lose = active feet and toes but poor connection to boot and therefore ski. Too tight, might not get enough freedom of movement to get the ski to move as needed. For example I generally measure out and usually ski for all mountain skiing a 27.5 but in terms of a performance fit I can manage a 26.5 for a few hours without issue. Race logic would say go 26.5 but I feel more foot and toes activation in the 27.5. Certainly a balancing act.

  • @elhior23
    @elhior23 5 днів тому

    They finally made you wear a helmet. I wish you still had the hair doo. Watching his clients they have no idea what he is talking about. Hilarious.

  • @Shalmenskiski
    @Shalmenskiski Місяць тому +1

    Get out of the back seat

    • @DebArmstrongSkiStrong
      @DebArmstrongSkiStrong  Місяць тому +1

      How will his ski performance change considering your comment? Is he not engaging the ski tip? What is the ski performance issue you see?

    • @mamu-e7c
      @mamu-e7c Місяць тому +1

      So many instructors have been coached to smash the cuff, that skiing in the middle of the ski with closed 'tensioned' ankles and core with relaxed quads looks 'back seat'. Sometimes you have to half drown the horse to get it to drink.

    • @billtanch8273
      @billtanch8273 15 днів тому +1

      @Shalmenskiski
      2 weeks ago
      "Get out of the back seat".
      Tell that to Marcel Hirscher:
      "marcel hirscher the skiing compact transition king"
      Reilly McGlashan
      4 years ago
      m.ua-cam.com/video/A-RrcT7lV6k/v-deo.html&pp=ygUcUmVpbGx5ICBtY2dsYXNoYW4gdHJhbnNpdGlvbg%3D%3D

  • @anatoli28
    @anatoli28 Місяць тому +1

    🤦

    • @hehexd4557
      @hehexd4557 Місяць тому +1

      Just turn your pinky and Un weight your downhill ski bro