Debbie is such a Hardcore and passionate skier, considering she has reached the pinnacle of Olympic champion I'm amazed how she still loves getting out there and helping skiers become more proficient and get the most out of their skiing.
All this just points out for me the value of working with a teacher who can communicate without judgement. You cannot see yourself. And even if you video yourself, you have your own personal bias that clouds your interpretation. There is always room for improvement within all of us. Just really appreciate how Scott conveyed what he thought he was doing, and how Deb was able to adjust his interpretation, and communicate a way for him to make his own adjustments. Really terrific.
Thank you. I deeply appreciate your comment. It took courage as a full PSIA cert to admit to the skiing community I’m not yet perfect (and likely will always find things to improve.) I’m more than willing to have my movements and interpretations challenged. The learning never ends.
My entire season of ski technique work summed up in one video. All those adjustments look easy, but they don't come right away and without the resistance of old habits) Scott learns phenomenally fast!
Thank’s for another great lesson - a lot for me to take away from this one (like all of your videos). Big kudos to Scott, who is already an excellent skier, for putting himself out there for critique.
@@scott.e.wiseman Haha, Scott, I'm your big fan thanks to Deb. It's very informative when we can see a lesson with 2 very good skiers and one of them is fighting a "small" up movement instead of a lesson with beginners where is nothing to look at.
Wow, awesome videos! I just want to say thank you 🙏🙏🙏 Beginner, advanced, ambitious recreational, ski-instructor or racer - anyone will get benefits out of this. I am a Level 2-ski-instructor and most helpful for myself: the Videos with John Leffler, Wilson and Scott. The picture of pushing a car enables myself to get a new and sensational understanding, how far I have to push/pull back my new outside foot and which muscle have to work to move the hip forward. Another learning effect: how to drive the inside leg forward instead of overflexing my body in the hip (which is my „favorite“ mistake).
I went back and watched the 84 winter games to see Deb's run and the mic is picking up her kiuping around every gate and even taking a few gates with her on the way and the commentators goes, "Debbie is skiing super aggressively; she knows what got her here and is making the most out of every kick right on the edge of being out of control". That I think is what she is communicating here, get the skis out slightly past where you are comfortable and trust the technique and technology will bring them back.
I only recently came across your channel Deb. I haven’t skied in 18 years and am looking forward to hitting the slopes again now that I am 65, retired, and can afford the time. Your videos have got me excited to get back out there doing something I loved to do earlier in life! The level of instruction as well as your knowledge sharing, mentoring, and passion for teaching is priceless! Certainly no one can question the exhaustive experience you bring to the slopes as an instructor but being an effective teacher, mentor, and instructor requires more than just experience. It requires a mastery of how best to package knowledge and experience while delivering the information in a manner that is easy for the student to grasp. I love how effectively and passionately you communicate concepts and make corrections along the way while also building confidence. I am a subscriber to your channel now and look forward to watching all your videos. Thank you for sharing your passion and excitement with all of us! 🙌
Thank you so much for this comment. Welcome back to skiing! so happy for you and I’m very honored that you are benefiting from my videos. That means a lot to me.
As a long time ski pro, I will never forget what a senior examiner said on course to prevent your head from moving up and down excessively. “Pretend there is a ceiling fan above your head and if you bring your head up it will be chopped off “ needless to say your head and upper body will be quieter and everything good will happen from the waist down.
Wow! What a huge difference from the first tuck video to the second! Huge! And as Deb said you can see Scott’s swagger building throughout. Nice job Scott 👍
as an instructor, your movement analysis at every shot of these two videos is invaluable ... it's exceedingly rare to witness someone as articulate and observant as yourself ( re: the physical and biomechanical demands of a ski turn ) work with someone who already skis at such a high level as scott. not a single psia event i've experienced has come close to wisdom gained in speaking to these topics. i'd greatly appreciate more of this, because you're picking up on small movements that are hard to separate out in real time. also cheers to scott, inspirational to see you let your skiing get broken down while you worked to reorganize your understanding ... i know it's sometimes hard for people to let go enough for real change to take root.
Thanks Shawn! I still read these comments from time to time. Changing your understanding and sometimes giving up what you believed to be “right” is the first step towards improvement. I LOVE Deb’s perspectives. It is such a gift to be given this personalized feedback.
@@scott.e.wiseman really appreciate your reply, scott. can i ask a personal question? given the progress you made on the paradox between not-popping-up and not-getting squatty, do you have language to share around the experience? it proves to be a tricky idea for people to communicate, even instructor to instructor and among expert skiers. ron lemaster suggests that motion must become so fundamental to how learn to turn, that it’s also tough to assimilate that lesson even when presented well. and i’d love to do a better job communicating to my own students. maybe you could identify the obstacle you faced in shaking that movement pattern, or, any shift in your understanding of how not-popping-up and not-getting squatty are actually complimentary, or whatever insight guided your progress? no urgency of course ;)
@@shawnphillipsyoga3129 It is REALLY hard to to know if you are popping up between turns or not. Something I thought was subtle looked like a BIG movement to a critical observer like Deb. There isn’t proprioceptive feeling in our hips the way there is in our feet. I feel like many of the hip movements can only be seen, but not felt. Telling myself “don’t pop up” didn’t fix it for me. I instead I have to be aware of the replacement movement, and that is pulling the legs back under me, or making them short through that neutral part of my transition. As you pointed out, this is where the paradox comes in. Well, doesn’t that make us “squatty”? I don’t think so! This is only a temporary position we move through and the subsequent lengthening of the outside leg and shortening of the inside leg (both have to happen simultaneously) takes us out of that squatty position. The fundamental issue with my skiing I’m working on in these videos is not staying there. I used to over-flex at both hips and from here I’d dump my hips inside to edge my skis. The critical piece that was missing was the opening of the outside hip flexor. When that happens consistently, there is no more Squatty Scott. Ha!
I discovered that movement in my skiing unexpectedly but not consistently. An examiner I was working with helped to define it over the next season, it became my way of skiing. Now more than ever, I feel like I am flowing down the hill and I am applying it to my tele skiing also.
I just had a private ski lesson this weekend at Copper Mountain where we worked on similar things, center of mass in early transition of the turn. So great to have this reinforced from a different perspective!
Forward and across. Foreaganol is an appropriate term even if not a real word. Scott is already a superb skier but everyone can improve. Great coaching.
For the sake of an instructional video, this expert skier is given world cup instruction on developing perfection by an olympic gold medalist. Really amazing to watch. Deb A. is giving so much to the sport on such a huge scale.
That was fantastic. I don’t know if I can do it, but I have an image now of what to do. I’m going to practice today and then rewatch this video again. Thank you Deb!
Thanks for breaking it down, so helpful! I agree with Scott about using our tools, my new Fishers are so much fun. I'm working hard to gain the technique to let those skis do what they are built to do.
omg You have a lift chair in your backyard 😂love it ! Thank you for your videos , thank You for your knowledge, just got back from Whistler ❤great snow season so far . Hope that beautiful new baby is doing great ❤
the tuck position seems to make it easier to be aware of any upward movement of the hip, thus making it easier to transition only by flexion of the outside leg. you can immediately feel if your uphill leg is extending in transition, its a great way to feel how the forces work for you. you can see competition skiers use it a lot, but first time I've seen anyone use it as a teaching method. cool! thanks Deb
Oh my; Scott. This is soo my journey right now. Thanks a bunch Deb for these videos with Scott. My skiing have taken a leap forward lately. One building block is your videos and positive energy!!
I can relate to Scott in so many ways. Great coaching Deb😊 I would have loved to see you demo to further cement my learning. Thanks for the MA at the end.
11:21 Light bulb moment!!! = "replace up and down with leg going out there". I've never been able to explain that concept so simply...I always got caught up in retraction/extension and complicated the concept
Great lesson Deb and Scott! Can't wait to put some of this into practice this weekend! I hope I pick it up as quickly as Scott did! The Q/A between you both is excellent, it was like Scott was reading my mind and asking the questions I had too!
Thanks Deb! The pair of videos with Scott are awesome, full of movement analysis and coaching. I've had asymmetry in my turns that I have been working on. I tore my right ACL teaching this season. After surgery I am really going to work on the range of motion of my hip during PT. After I tore my left ACL in 2017 and had surgery to repair it, the physical therapist noted how different my range of motion was between my left and right hips. Ed Piggley will be there checking on me;)
Love it deb. Watched you’re videos past 6 months. After a year off because of hip surgery I got my carving back by day two. Did 10,000 ft vertical on 12 laps down stauffenberg. Best lap upper + lower stauffenberg was 2 min 10 sec!!!! Also did about 20 laps on the beginner slope working on your drills. Asked a couple of instructors if you were around but they didn’t know. Love to meet you at tsv sometime.
Deb thank you so much. I am much more of a beginner than Scott is but this video was still extremely useful to me. I cannot wait to put a few things into practice. As someone else wrote above, spending a day with you on the slopes would be a dream come true. It’s been added to my “bucket list”. ❤️ I have been struggling with increasing my edge angle, and I got a few tips in this video. And by the way… so so love that chairlift in your backyard..
Thanks for explaining the « pop »…it happened to me this winter. I generated so much power and speed in a turn that I got ejected and fell at the end of my turn. Surprised the hell out of me lol…I tried to understand what I did wrong and couldn’t find the right word to explain it. Now I get it!
You can (and I have) spend years refining that transition to the new outside foot as at 13:00 (and really the whole video). Great stuff, I like your "feet-up" approach to teaching this, as it matches well with how I've always thought about it.
Great video! Deb, it's not that long, given what we could take away. I enjoy and learn from the give and take between you and Scott, who reminds me of Jason Sudeikis from SNL. :D I can see how his skiing improves based on your instruction. Also, Scott's feedback is good. In terms of thinking about multiple moves simultaneously, I try to focus on my outside leg becoming my inside leg and shortening the leg. Too much focus on the inside leg becoming the outside leg doesn't work well for me. Thanks!
Awesome follow up Deb , watched 1st vid , this follow definitely emphasizes more of the mechanics, as a long time hockey player and years of skating drills , edge angles , we were taught to actually bring inside keg up off the ice to make tight turns , obviously skiing is a totally different sport , but breaking away from those instilled drills mentally is tough , particularly when you can “ muscle thru “ a ski turn using skating technique… but been watching, practicing, watching again and practicing again ,SKIING turns …. Great coaching Deb 👍⛷️
Yikes! That near collision at 13:17 made me flinch! But it reminded me that I would really like to see somebody (hint hint Deb) do a video talking about the techniques for skiing past and around slower, often randomly moving skiers, especially when crowded slopes create a chaotic obstacle course. It's a common difficulty that every skier faces, yet I've not found any videos teaching about it.
Skiing seems to be like an old Gary Larson cartoon from the 90s where the professor has a huge equation on the board and at the end the cartoon says something like ,"and that class is the how to interact with co-eds"
Great video as always. But I think that Scott needs a bit more of steepness in the run maybe a blue run sin he can get more angulation and feel those forces over. But was amazing in seeing the changes, great job Deb. I just want to have a ride in Taos to find you and Wilson. I will cry, for sure 🤣 a big hug from the Pirinees in Andorra. I have the chance here in Soldeu Tarter to watch the finals of the world cup.
Hello back from New Mexico! Maybe it’s the ski instructor in me, but I love to spend a lot of time on the flatter terrain to ingrain a new movement pattern. I still notice old movement patterns coming back when the pitch increases. 😅 You are right though, that’s where I’m headed next, and it will be exciting!!!
Great stuff Deb, I wouldn't worry about using pressure as a term, it's definitely the right way to describe it! Scott can definitely use more topple, have him ski without poles and do some hand drag exercises😎
I’m actually tried some hand drag exercises after these sessions with Deb. Felt a little strange at first- but, I’m stoked to see where next season leads me. :)
Another insightful video, great work Deb & Scott. Deb, when are you going to get a helmet that fits!🤣 Can you delve a bit deeper on the feet behind hips? Some side shots of that would be great.
Thank you so much for that video, Deb. Awesome information I really need. So you're basically saying to almost drop and really lengthen the outside ski and start driving immediately into the turn with the inside? That makes sense. I know I am guilty of the exaggerated movement thing, which is why Im driving into the turn with the outside too much (or at least I think). I just really enjoy pressing hard into the snow. It is costing me speed, though. The hips, too. I need to work on what youre saying there. I have to admit, the lengthening/dropping the outside ski sounds a bit scary...but it clearly looks right. Also what your student said about utilizing that 'force' through the movements is addictive. I so love this sport. I am addicted to it. My chickens are likewise depressed. But they have to cope. One more month of ski season left. 16" on the ground. Thanks again for your fantastic and informative videos.
I really really liked the breakdown at the end of the video, would love to see more of that. I am a first year instructor (doing it for fun away from my desk job) and your videos were invaluable. Thank you for making these available to all. Do you ever come out east? Would love to have you clinic with us.
I froze the video at 6.58 minutes and my question is what should he be doing to prevent the dirvergence of his skis which are no longer in a parallel relationship? Would tipping his ankles starting with the inside ski first instead of inside leg steering prevent this outcome? My coach wants two equal tracks of edges from engagement to release. Thanks for the great videos you keep posting.
I so agree @jimallen8022 . I'm watching and rewatching these vids to get me through July and August. I've tried to hit Deb's schedule at both women's clinic days at Steamboat (no longer offered) and Taos Ski Week, but I keep picking the weeks she is elsewhere. Doesn't Deb instinctively know how fun it would be to teach me?? :) Some day I will get it right. It would be SUCH a thrill. Winter is coming!!
Amazing! Deb, I have a question. After years of skiing 88 underfoot, I went lower at your advice and it’s really transformed my skiing for the better. When do I pull the 88mm skis out, and what am I looking to learn when I do? Are they good for our East Coast Spring slush?
Such little subtle changes make such a difference… I’m 65 and really started skiing seriously only 5 years ago, 12 days in CO last year and this year plan about 25 out west ( I live in MD) your videos are SO helpful. Anyway, last winter finally figured out to lean up on the edges and what a revelation! So fast and smooth compared to turning out backs of the skis! My friends - hey you got fast ! Thanks so much for these videos it’s worth a tip …
I love this lesson and have put into play the exercises… how do you progress to moguls. I am intermediate yet do not do moguls pretty but feel I am a hot mess
Hi Deb! Thank you for another great video! I plan to by a "Stockli SC", the skis you friend is using in this video. Can you tell me the length of the skis in the video and the height of your friend! Thank you in advance!
The interesting thing is that my unnecessary upper body movement is always more significant than I think and my upper/lower separation is always more subtle than I feel...
Great video Deb. Is a good visualization for making outside leg short/ inside long the action of pedaling a bike while seated? In that case, the hips stay planted on the seat. I’m struggling with the up/down movement and wondering what to focus on to address it. Thanks!
Daniel - Have a look here: Alpine Skiing - Weight shift and pedal movement YT Channel : Seppo Keranen m.ua-cam.com/video/DfQKuXH3QMA/v-deo.html&pp=ygUeUGVkYWwgYWN0aW9uIHNlcHBvIGtlcmFuZW4gc2tp Long Leg to Short Leg in Transition = "Pedal Action" =" Hip Pedaling"
In the tuck exercise at around 10:45 what muscle activations are probably happening to allow the outside leg to go further away from the body's centre of mass? Am I correct to think that a lot of it is happening through the adductor of the old outside ski/new inside ski which then moves the centre of mass to the other side of where it was previously thereby moving away from the new outside leg? I'm trying to work on this stuff at the moment and really trying to understand the specific biomechanics of it.
Finish the turn to the point that your skis have started going not just across the hill but slightly up the hill, before you start the new turn. That will give you have the technical skill needed to control your speed. Then through mileage, you’ll obtain the confidence and will never say again ‘too speedy’.
Taking some words from the other life, you are looking for: Angular momentum Centripetal acceleration Potential energy Force dissipation Friction (snow has friction coefficient) This is how skiing works. Boring right...
Hey Deb. With your end of video comments, did you recommend to Scott to watch your “driving the inside knee” video you did with Wilson? Curious what the next video or training/skill plan you have for him to really keep him forward to drive his skis dynamically without concerns of him on his heels.
I love the video with Wilson, and it’s one I’ve watched many times. Thanks to both you and Deb for pointing out that the inside knee/leg activity has to be the next step. There’s soooooo much to think about, but this piece will be key!
Deb, how much do shoulders have to counterrotate on a turn (they have to be completely perpendicular to the fall line and when, like in the old school skiing, or just a little)? Thank you
I'll jump in here not because I will claim to know anywhere enough to be in the slightest authoritative but because I've been thinking/working on this quite a bit and am also happy to hear Deb's ideas. I think she will say that counter-rotation is unnecessary, especially if the turn is not a short turn. With the outside ski hip being driven forwards, counter-rotation of the torso gets counter-intuitive. Instead the torso should be more or less following the direction of the skis. I'd be very happy to hear Deb's opinion on this and anyone else's for that matter.
@@johnschranz5271 very interesting, if we do it as you describe, we will end with the chest facing the side of the mountain, but on the other hand, I dislike old-school worm-like twisting. I hope Deb can answer so we don't drill the wrong ideas. I simply cruise and don't do any moguls. height 6.1, skis blizzard rustler 10, 188. heavy rider.
A day with Deb would be the best day skiing ever. Best Instructor and amazing communicator and coach!!
does she charge for these
Debbie is such a Hardcore and passionate skier, considering she has reached the pinnacle of Olympic champion I'm amazed how she still loves getting out there and helping skiers become more proficient and get the most out of their skiing.
All this just points out for me the value of working with a teacher who can communicate without judgement. You cannot see yourself. And even if you video yourself, you have your own personal bias that clouds your interpretation. There is always room for improvement within all of us. Just really appreciate how Scott conveyed what he thought he was doing, and how Deb was able to adjust his interpretation, and communicate a way for him to make his own adjustments. Really terrific.
Thank you. I deeply appreciate your comment. It took courage as a full PSIA cert to admit to the skiing community I’m not yet perfect (and likely will always find things to improve.) I’m more than willing to have my movements and interpretations challenged. The learning never ends.
My entire season of ski technique work summed up in one video. All those adjustments look easy, but they don't come right away and without the resistance of old habits) Scott learns phenomenally fast!
Thank’s for another great lesson - a lot for me to take away from this one (like all of your videos). Big kudos to Scott, who is already an excellent skier, for putting himself out there for critique.
Agreed! I wish I could always keep my ego in check lol.
This video is so rich with really good stuff, when I watch it each time I find something new and awesome
Great!
Me too! I get new nuggets each time I watch it. And I was the one there!! :)
@@scott.e.wiseman Haha, Scott, I'm your big fan thanks to Deb. It's very informative when we can see a lesson with 2 very good skiers and one of them is fighting a "small" up movement instead of a lesson with beginners where is nothing to look at.
Wow, awesome videos! I just want to say thank you 🙏🙏🙏 Beginner, advanced, ambitious recreational, ski-instructor or racer - anyone will get benefits out of this. I am a Level 2-ski-instructor and most helpful for myself: the Videos with John Leffler, Wilson and Scott. The picture of pushing a car enables myself to get a new and sensational understanding, how far I have to push/pull back my new outside foot and which muscle have to work to move the hip forward. Another learning effect: how to drive the inside leg forward instead of overflexing my body in the hip (which is my „favorite“ mistake).
Incredible eye is surpassed by ability to place words to it!
Great video Deb! I’m definitely saving this one to rewatch again 😊 I always love how you break it down so efficiently ❤
I went back and watched the 84 winter games to see Deb's run and the mic is picking up her kiuping around every gate and even taking a few gates with her on the way and the commentators goes, "Debbie is skiing super aggressively; she knows what got her here and is making the most out of every kick right on the edge of being out of control". That I think is what she is communicating here, get the skis out slightly past where you are comfortable and trust the technique and technology will bring them back.
I love the last two minutes of this video with the still images and your commentary!
I only recently came across your channel Deb. I haven’t skied in 18 years and am looking forward to hitting the slopes again now that I am 65, retired, and can afford the time. Your videos have got me excited to get back out there doing something I loved to do earlier in life! The level of instruction as well as your knowledge sharing, mentoring, and passion for teaching is priceless!
Certainly no one can question the exhaustive experience you bring to the slopes as an instructor but being an effective teacher, mentor, and instructor requires more than just experience. It requires a mastery of how best to package knowledge and experience while delivering the information in a manner that is easy for the student to grasp. I love how effectively and passionately you communicate concepts and make corrections along the way while also building confidence.
I am a subscriber to your channel now and look forward to watching all your videos. Thank you for sharing your passion and excitement with all of us! 🙌
Thank you so much for this comment. Welcome back to skiing! so happy for you and I’m very honored that you are benefiting from my videos. That means a lot to me.
I watch A LOT of ski videos and Deb just explains in both technical and relatable ways.
It would be amazing to have instruction from her.
As a long time ski pro, I will never forget what a senior examiner said on course to prevent your head from moving up and down excessively.
“Pretend there is a ceiling fan above your head and if you bring your head up it will be chopped off “ needless to say your head and upper body will be quieter and everything good will happen from the waist down.
I like this analogy - I will also apply this to my golf swing!!! Amazing how many similarly complicated movements happen in both skiing and golf!
Wow! What a huge difference from the first tuck video to the second! Huge! And as Deb said you can see Scott’s swagger building throughout. Nice job Scott 👍
And I FELT it! Thank you Becky! ❤
as an instructor, your movement analysis at every shot of these two videos is invaluable ... it's exceedingly rare to witness someone as articulate and observant as yourself ( re: the physical and biomechanical demands of a ski turn ) work with someone who already skis at such a high level as scott. not a single psia event i've experienced has come close to wisdom gained in speaking to these topics. i'd greatly appreciate more of this, because you're picking up on small movements that are hard to separate out in real time. also cheers to scott, inspirational to see you let your skiing get broken down while you worked to reorganize your understanding ... i know it's sometimes hard for people to let go enough for real change to take root.
Thanks Shawn! I still read these comments from time to time. Changing your understanding and sometimes giving up what you believed to be “right” is the first step towards improvement. I LOVE Deb’s perspectives. It is such a gift to be given this personalized feedback.
@@scott.e.wiseman really appreciate your reply, scott.
can i ask a personal question? given the progress you made on the paradox between not-popping-up and not-getting squatty, do you have language to share around the experience?
it proves to be a tricky idea for people to communicate, even instructor to instructor and among expert skiers. ron lemaster suggests that motion must become so fundamental to how learn to turn, that it’s also tough to assimilate that lesson even when presented well. and i’d love to do a better job communicating to my own students.
maybe you could identify the obstacle you faced in shaking that movement pattern, or, any shift in your understanding of how not-popping-up and not-getting squatty are actually complimentary, or whatever insight guided your progress?
no urgency of course ;)
@@shawnphillipsyoga3129 It is REALLY hard to to know if you are popping up between turns or not. Something I thought was subtle looked like a BIG movement to a critical observer like Deb. There isn’t proprioceptive feeling in our hips the way there is in our feet. I feel like many of the hip movements can only be seen, but not felt. Telling myself “don’t pop up” didn’t fix it for me. I instead I have to be aware of the replacement movement, and that is pulling the legs back under me, or making them short through that neutral part of my transition. As you pointed out, this is where the paradox comes in. Well, doesn’t that make us “squatty”? I don’t think so! This is only a temporary position we move through and the subsequent lengthening of the outside leg and shortening of the inside leg (both have to happen simultaneously) takes us out of that squatty position. The fundamental issue with my skiing I’m working on in these videos is not staying there. I used to over-flex at both hips and from here I’d dump my hips inside to edge my skis. The critical piece that was missing was the opening of the outside hip flexor. When that happens consistently, there is no more Squatty Scott. Ha!
Very well done, Deb. Superb "detection and correction", changes to Scott's skiing that he can feel and make a difference.
What a balance! Managing F/A & lateral motions!!! May the gentle force be with you!
Love it
Great stuff Deb! Big changes in Scott's skiing from V1 to V2 now... yea!
Thank you, Deb
I'm 72 years old I've been a skier/ski patroller/Racer for more than 50 years. I'm still learning from Your videos.
The last two minutes should be written in gold, thanks Deb, I learned from you much more than all expensive instructors o had before.
I discovered that movement in my skiing unexpectedly but not consistently. An examiner I was working with helped to define it over the next season, it became my way of skiing. Now more than ever, I feel like I am flowing down the hill and I am applying it to my tele skiing also.
Man! Debbie you are so great! Every time I found that I could not maintain the control during the turn, then I came here, and I would find the answer.
Where were you 40 years ago when I was skiing and teaching skiing. You are awesome.
I just had a private ski lesson this weekend at Copper Mountain where we worked on similar things, center of mass in early transition of the turn.
So great to have this reinforced from a different perspective!
love how in-depth Deb goes into shifting mass as you begin to initiate your turn. OMG learning so much that l can bring to improving. Thank you
Forward and across. Foreaganol is an appropriate term even if not a real word. Scott is already a superb skier but everyone can improve. Great coaching.
Foreagonal is my favorite new word and it’s real enough to me! 🎉
For the sake of an instructional video, this expert skier is given world cup instruction on developing perfection by an olympic gold medalist. Really amazing to watch. Deb A. is giving so much to the sport on such a huge scale.
Thank you
It is such an awesome gift!!
That was fantastic. I don’t know if I can do it, but I have an image now of what to do. I’m going to practice today and then rewatch this video again. Thank you Deb!
Brett you should try Carv it gives you feedback through sensors placed in your ski boots.
@@patrickpurcell3671 nah, I like Deb’s videos though.
Hi Deb, This is another Fantastic video and Post. Thank you!
One of the best video you achieved. Thanks a lot for sharing this with us !
Thanks for breaking it down, so helpful! I agree with Scott about using our tools, my new Fishers are so much fun. I'm working hard to gain the technique to let those skis do what they are built to do.
Thank you Deb, It’s truly a cerebral journey…
omg You have a lift chair in your backyard 😂love it ! Thank you for your videos , thank You for your knowledge, just got back from Whistler ❤great snow season so far . Hope that beautiful new baby is doing great ❤
the tuck position seems to make it easier to be aware of any upward movement of the hip, thus making it easier to transition only by flexion of the outside leg. you can immediately feel if your uphill leg is extending in transition, its a great way to feel how the forces work for you. you can see competition skiers use it a lot, but first time I've seen anyone use it as a teaching method. cool! thanks Deb
A lot of racing coaches use tuck drills to teach that. The broader PSIA is a bit allergic to it as a teaching approach though IMO.
Anyone else critique their own skiing in Deb's voice?
Ha!!!!
Cute comment! And I can relate. :)
Oh my; Scott. This is soo my journey right now. Thanks a bunch Deb for these videos with Scott. My skiing have taken a leap forward lately. One building block is your videos and positive energy!!
Are you the same Maria from Carv ... that is a good skier with a fairly high IQ score?
Hi Excellent video. I believe that planting poles when carving triggers hip up/down motion. I do not use poles when carving. Thank you.
I can relate to Scott in so many ways. Great coaching Deb😊
I would have loved to see you demo to further cement my learning. Thanks for the MA at the end.
11:21 Light bulb moment!!! = "replace up and down with leg going out there". I've never been able to explain that concept so simply...I always got caught up in retraction/extension and complicated the concept
My big takeaway, strength & length, thanks Deb
And from part one I love the starting with outside foot back and drive that hip forward
Great lesson Deb and Scott! Can't wait to put some of this into practice this weekend! I hope I pick it up as quickly as Scott did! The Q/A between you both is excellent, it was like Scott was reading my mind and asking the questions I had too!
Awwww. Thanks ❤😊
Thanks Deb! The pair of videos with Scott are awesome, full of movement analysis and coaching. I've had asymmetry in my turns that I have been working on. I tore my right ACL teaching this season. After surgery I am really going to work on the range of motion of my hip during PT. After I tore my left ACL in 2017 and had surgery to repair it, the physical therapist noted how different my range of motion was between my left and right hips. Ed Piggley will be there checking on me;)
Scott, it takes some courage to be yelled at in front of millions, even by Deb. So big thank you. When Deb told you "it is not subtle", I LMAF :-)
😂😅 It does take courage. Thanks for recognizing that! But Deb has the biggest ❤, so you know it’s always for your own good!
Love it deb. Watched you’re videos past 6 months. After a year off because of hip surgery I got my carving back by day two. Did 10,000 ft vertical on 12 laps down stauffenberg. Best lap upper + lower stauffenberg was 2 min 10 sec!!!! Also did about 20 laps on the beginner slope working on your drills. Asked a couple of instructors if you were around but they didn’t know. Love to meet you at tsv sometime.
Deb thank you so much. I am
much more of a beginner than Scott is but this video was still extremely useful to me. I cannot wait to put a few things into practice. As someone else wrote above, spending a day with you on the slopes would be a dream come true. It’s been added to my “bucket list”. ❤️ I have been struggling with increasing my edge angle, and I got a few tips in this video. And by the way… so so love that chairlift in your backyard..
Thanks for explaining the « pop »…it happened to me this winter. I generated so much power and speed in a turn that I got ejected and fell at the end of my turn. Surprised the hell out of me lol…I tried to understand what I did wrong and couldn’t find the right word to explain it. Now I get it!
Scott don't over think , don't get to technical. Your a great skier. Just remember to smile no matter what. Its all about fun.
You can (and I have) spend years refining that transition to the new outside foot as at 13:00 (and really the whole video). Great stuff, I like your "feet-up" approach to teaching this, as it matches well with how I've always thought about it.
Priceless Deb!
Glad you like😉
Great video! Deb, it's not that long, given what we could take away. I enjoy and learn from the give and take between you and Scott, who reminds me of Jason Sudeikis from SNL. :D I can see how his skiing improves based on your instruction. Also, Scott's feedback is good. In terms of thinking about multiple moves simultaneously, I try to focus on my outside leg becoming my inside leg and shortening the leg. Too much focus on the inside leg becoming the outside leg doesn't work well for me. Thanks!
Awesome follow up Deb , watched 1st vid , this follow definitely emphasizes more of the mechanics, as a long time hockey player and years of skating drills , edge angles , we were taught to actually bring inside keg up off the ice to make tight turns , obviously skiing is a totally different sport , but breaking away from those instilled drills mentally is tough , particularly when you can “ muscle thru “ a ski turn using skating technique… but been watching, practicing, watching again and practicing again ,SKIING turns …. Great coaching Deb 👍⛷️
Awesome!!!
Yikes! That near collision at 13:17 made me flinch! But it reminded me that I would really like to see somebody (hint hint Deb) do a video talking about the techniques for skiing past and around slower, often randomly moving skiers, especially when crowded slopes create a chaotic obstacle course. It's a common difficulty that every skier faces, yet I've not found any videos teaching about it.
I know!! I was pretty startled.
@@scott.e.wisemanand yet you maintained your skiing composure. Well done! I probably would have leaned away from the threat and gotten on my tails.
Skiing seems to be like an old Gary Larson cartoon from the 90s where the professor has a huge equation on the board and at the end the cartoon says something like ,"and that class is the how to interact with co-eds"
Great video as always. But I think that Scott needs a bit more of steepness in the run maybe a blue run sin he can get more angulation and feel those forces over. But was amazing in seeing the changes, great job Deb. I just want to have a ride in Taos to find you and Wilson. I will cry, for sure 🤣 a big hug from the Pirinees in Andorra. I have the chance here in Soldeu Tarter to watch the finals of the world cup.
Hello back from New Mexico! Maybe it’s the ski instructor in me, but I love to spend a lot of time on the flatter terrain to ingrain a new movement pattern. I still notice old movement patterns coming back when the pitch increases. 😅 You are right though, that’s where I’m headed next, and it will be exciting!!!
Nice video. It would be good to see some of you demonstrating what you mean as it’s a lot to take in.
Great stuff Deb, I wouldn't worry about using pressure as a term, it's definitely the right way to describe it! Scott can definitely use more topple, have him ski without poles and do some hand drag exercises😎
I’m actually tried some hand drag exercises after these sessions with Deb. Felt a little strange at first- but, I’m stoked to see where next season leads me. :)
Hi Deb, I enjoy your videos, greetings from Sarajevo
Hello🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️
He improved heaps.
Addictive feeling indeed!
Another insightful video, great work Deb & Scott.
Deb, when are you going to get a helmet that fits!🤣
Can you delve a bit deeper on the feet behind hips? Some side shots of that would be great.
Ha!!!!
Thank you so much for that video, Deb. Awesome information I really need. So you're basically saying to almost drop and really lengthen the outside ski and start driving immediately into the turn with the inside? That makes sense. I know I am guilty of the exaggerated movement thing, which is why Im driving into the turn with the outside too much (or at least I think). I just really enjoy pressing hard into the snow. It is costing me speed, though. The hips, too. I need to work on what youre saying there. I have to admit, the lengthening/dropping the outside ski sounds a bit scary...but it clearly looks right. Also what your student said about utilizing that 'force' through the movements is addictive. I so love this sport. I am addicted to it. My chickens are likewise depressed. But they have to cope. One more month of ski season left. 16" on the ground. Thanks again for your fantastic and informative videos.
I really really liked the breakdown at the end of the video, would love to see more of that. I am a first year instructor (doing it for fun away from my desk job) and your videos were invaluable. Thank you for making these available to all. Do you ever come out east? Would love to have you clinic with us.
I froze the video at 6.58 minutes and my question is what should he be doing to prevent the dirvergence of his skis which are no longer in a parallel relationship? Would tipping his ankles starting with the inside ski first instead of inside leg steering prevent this outcome? My coach wants two equal tracks of edges from engagement to release. Thanks for the great videos you keep posting.
I so agree @jimallen8022 . I'm watching and rewatching these vids to get me through July and August. I've tried to hit Deb's schedule at both women's clinic days at Steamboat (no longer offered) and Taos Ski Week, but I keep picking the weeks she is elsewhere. Doesn't Deb instinctively know how fun it would be to teach me?? :) Some day I will get it right. It would be SUCH a thrill. Winter is coming!!
Ha love it!!!!!! See you in Taos, NM for a skistrong session?
When your skis are out of peripheral vision is when hips are pushed forward. When in doubt thrust hips forward to initiate turn.
Amazing! Deb, I have a question. After years of skiing 88 underfoot, I went lower at your advice and it’s really transformed my skiing for the better. When do I pull the 88mm skis out, and what am I looking to learn when I do? Are they good for our East Coast Spring slush?
Oh yes! Such a lot of snow! Wow ))))))
Very impressed
Such little subtle changes make such a difference… I’m 65 and really started skiing seriously only 5 years ago, 12 days in CO last year and this year plan about 25 out west ( I live in MD) your videos are SO helpful. Anyway, last winter finally figured out to lean up on the edges and what a revelation! So fast and smooth compared to turning out backs of the skis! My friends - hey you got fast ! Thanks so much for these videos it’s worth a tip …
Thank you!!!!!
I love this lesson and have put into play the exercises… how do you progress to moguls. I am intermediate yet do not do moguls pretty but feel I am a hot mess
I have a mogul playlist on my home page
Hi Deb!
Thank you for another great video!
I plan to by a "Stockli SC", the skis you friend is using in this video.
Can you tell me the length of the skis in the video and the height of your friend!
Thank you in advance!
I’m not sure. Sorry!!!!!!
The Stockli SC I’m on is 176 cm and I’m about 6’!
@@scott.e.wiseman Thank you Scott for your reply!
I digg that red top.
Great vid 👌
The interesting thing is that my unnecessary upper body movement is always more significant than I think and my upper/lower separation is always more subtle than I feel...
Great video Deb. Is a good visualization for making outside leg short/ inside long the action of pedaling a bike while seated? In that case, the hips stay planted on the seat. I’m struggling with the up/down movement and wondering what to focus on to address it. Thanks!
Outside leg long, inside leg short. Ya, a bike pedaling action is a good way to think of it.
Thanks Deb!
Daniel -
Have a look here:
Alpine Skiing - Weight shift and pedal movement
YT Channel : Seppo Keranen
m.ua-cam.com/video/DfQKuXH3QMA/v-deo.html&pp=ygUeUGVkYWwgYWN0aW9uIHNlcHBvIGtlcmFuZW4gc2tp
Long Leg to Short Leg in Transition
= "Pedal Action"
=" Hip Pedaling"
In the tuck exercise at around 10:45 what muscle activations are probably happening to allow the outside leg to go further away from the body's centre of mass? Am I correct to think that a lot of it is happening through the adductor of the old outside ski/new inside ski which then moves the centre of mass to the other side of where it was previously thereby moving away from the new outside leg? I'm trying to work on this stuff at the moment and really trying to understand the specific biomechanics of it.
Cảm ơn vì một bài học tuyệt vời khác
What a location it is? Looks wonderful.
Taos
Bucket list item…skiing lessons w Deb in NM.
Hi Deb, can you cover on how to control the speed when skiing down steep slope? I usually got too speedy as I come down the slope
Finish the turn to the point that your skis have started going not just across the hill but slightly up the hill, before you start the new turn. That will give you have the technical skill needed to control your speed. Then through mileage, you’ll obtain the confidence and will never say again ‘too speedy’.
I would love to get a lesson from you!! I'm in the PNW. What region do you typically teach at?
I offer a skistrong program at the Taos Ski Valley in NM. Check it out and come ski with me😉
Taking some words from the other life, you are looking for:
Angular momentum
Centripetal acceleration
Potential energy
Force dissipation
Friction (snow has friction coefficient)
This is how skiing works.
Boring right...
Thanks!!!
Awsome!
Hey Deb. With your end of video comments, did you recommend to Scott to watch your “driving the inside knee” video you did with Wilson? Curious what the next video or training/skill plan you have for him to really keep him forward to drive his skis dynamically without concerns of him on his heels.
Good point. For Scott, nothing new but reenforcing the new movement patterns. He does need to drive the inside knee more.
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrongthank you. Great pointers all around. Helps everyone improve!
I love the video with Wilson, and it’s one I’ve watched many times. Thanks to both you and Deb for pointing out that the inside knee/leg activity has to be the next step. There’s soooooo much to think about, but this piece will be key!
@@scott.e.wiseman appreciate your time to respond!
is it just the difference between cross over and cross under?
Where is this magical resort with perfectly groomed untouched runs??
Yes, it’s called Taos
Thanks!
Thank you!!
Deb, how much do shoulders have to counterrotate on a turn (they have to be completely perpendicular to the fall line and when, like in the old school skiing, or just a little)? Thank you
I'll jump in here not because I will claim to know anywhere enough to be in the slightest authoritative but because I've been thinking/working on this quite a bit and am also happy to hear Deb's ideas. I think she will say that counter-rotation is unnecessary, especially if the turn is not a short turn. With the outside ski hip being driven forwards, counter-rotation of the torso gets counter-intuitive. Instead the torso should be more or less following the direction of the skis. I'd be very happy to hear Deb's opinion on this and anyone else's for that matter.
@@johnschranz5271 very interesting, if we do it as you describe, we will end with the chest facing the side of the mountain, but on the other hand, I dislike old-school worm-like twisting. I hope Deb can answer so we don't drill the wrong ideas. I simply cruise and don't do any moguls. height 6.1, skis blizzard rustler 10, 188. heavy rider.
Super!!!
Skiing across and forward would seem to equal leg drive (commenting while watching the video)
Is the foot slightly behind just another way of saying being forward? 🤔
Yes
Hi, chickens! Hahaha
Deb is their a drill to practice this hip position and leg retraction?
The tuck is a drill
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong ok thanks
what ski field is this? groomed slopes no crowds
Taos new mexico
Great video! Also if you don't mind me asking where did you get that red mid layer? It's lovely
Delaine sweaters
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong thanks!
weaker left leg compared to the right leg?
Possibly?
What is your skı lenght sır??🎉
176!
Scott is a Level 3 instructor? If he doesn't have clear understanding of these techniques, what has he been teaching his students?
Are you saying at Level 3 we have reached the end of our learning?
Nice!!!
He’s becoming more like richi berger yahoo