If Seiko kept time well and were dependable, I would think they were a budget brand but they’re absolute junk. 300 m divers watch floods at 40 feet the first time in use. Garbage. Free is too expensive for these pieces of shit!
I've got a sla 043 , the 62mas with the blue 2nd hand. It's a nice watch but at over 4k , it's expensive for a seiko. Upon closer inspection, it's hard to see how could it be made any better, as it's done so well. The movement should of been regulated though. When you consider that they have used a high quality ever bright steel, a hand assembled movement, zaratsu polishing, beautiful indices and hand set , a gorgeous crystal, limited to 1700 pieces worldwide, then priced them similar to a mass produced omega seamaster 300 with a rubber strap, then maybe their value are justified ? The omega has without doubt a more luxury name, but is it better than these sla seikos , personally I don't think so . And I'm so happy I only paid 2.5k for mine nearly new.
I think my problem with the price of these pieces is that you can get a MM300 for about 1500 less than these pieces with the same movement inside. I prefer the look of these pieces but I’m sorry to say I don’t think the price is justified, particularly with no bracelet. Here’s hoping for a non-LE version of these in about 6 months at a more reasonable price point once they’ve gouged the fanboys with these.
I'm not sure I've seen the Marine Master 300 in person that I can recall. Do I don't know does it have all the same features like the 904L steel case with Zaratsu polishing? Also, love it or hate it, these new ones have the limited edition tax applied to them.
@@JustBlueFish The MM300 is Zarathustra polished to my knowledge, but it’s not this new steel. I think it is the LE tax on this like you say. Shame because I love the way the cool blue one looks.
@@JustBlueFish My sentiments exactly, I bought a MM300 mint condition for $1370 with braclet and rubber strap a few years ago, now your paying 2-3 times that with no bracelet, so what it's limited edition, it doesn't mean anything.
Seiko was my favorite brand. I have zero problem with then making up market. I tent to enjoy there stuff over 750 dollars more anyway I find the LE stuff to be abysmal though. Also they seem to make alot of mistakes. Watches not being offered in black, not making a newer sarb033/035 (even if up market, yes the sarx exist but they're both quite the same), not offering watches with bracelets that should have them, ect. I find there's so many issues that would have basic fixes. I just can't buy anything from the. The marine master is about the only thing I have my sights on but there's about a dozen omega and tudor models I'll be buying first. It feels like seiko has been making everything I would "almost" want and nearly nothing I love. That's a huge contrast to how I felt 3 years ago.
I love these watches, but the price is way way too high. It's already been said, but even with these watches looks like the bezel has a missalignement. And an unsigned crown, only 50 hours power reserve, no bracelet.... I love Seiko, but my next more expensive watch will be a COSC certified Longines. Way less money for a lot more watch....
Seiko simply have to get their QC right! As far as I could tell the bezel on the black was a hair misaligned. Last year I returned two SPB143 to the respective dealers until I got a copy with an acceptable alignment.
No doubt Seiko needs to move upmarket. However their quality control and material upgrade not fully justify the price difference for me. I used to be a Seiko fan and own two very nice watches(Credor Eichi II and GS SBGA001). But I highly doubt I will get another one in the future...
Nice watches but the price differential between the main Seiko range and these is too great. Yes the movement is superior, as is the finish of the watch, but not $3000 worth.
It's seikos turn to go up market, Rolex was a tool watch now they are a luxury brand, none of us need mechanical watches they are all luxury. If you want affordable grab a seiko 5 or a Casio
My biggest problem whit seiko is that X... In rare some it is 'fine' but still why the fuck they print that everywhere... But that is good for my wallet so maybe it is better this way.. 5 seikos in my box 2 other have been but not forgotten.. Just awesome watches... Hard to have just 1 seiko
Seiko wants to play with the big boys even though their quality control is questionable at best. So their marketing suggested to produce so called limited runs in different colors and raise the prices to increase the perceived value. They might fool the newbie but real watch enthusiasts in Europe and Asia don’t buy their agenda and get the real deal instead as the sales figures prove. Btw the watch is very beautiful, but the price tag is just insane. I would rather get an Omega, Breitling, Tudor or any other Swiss sports watch for that amount of money.
I am surprised at some of the skeptical comments. Look at it - the bezel appears to align, and you no longer have to tell your friends "Oh, but hardlex resists impact better than sapphire". That right there is worth at lest $4,000.
My biggest problem whit seiko is that X... In rare some it is 'fine' but still why the fuck they print that everywhere... But that is good for my wallet so maybe it is better this way.. 5 seikos in my box 2 other have been but not forgotten.. Just awesome watches... Hard to have just 1 seiko
That's basically a GS with a seiko logo on it. if we are gonna judge seiko for their prices which I think is true then we have to judge Rolex, Patek, AP etc etc which have always been extremely overpriced because of their marketing skills and demand. Seiko is just not a bargain anymore. Prices are more un par with the rest of the industry if you really know how much high quality their high end pieces can be. Finishing alone are better than anything else (omega, rolex etc) Some QC problems are unacceptable on their 1k-2k watches which is where you can find them but no, Seiko's prices are not nuts. It's a brand older than Rolex and they obviously know what they are doing. People buy these things.
Sort of justified especially if the 8L movement is used it's a very nice movement it's a 28.800vph so high beat i think they decorate too with striping and engine turning, but that dosen't make it run better, it's architecture is similar to it's Swiss counterparts but more compact, i would love one i like the way the second hand is done too on the new Seiko's, it looks top shelf. Cheers Guy. P.S. Vintage time Australia (on yt) takes apart a undecorated 8L35A it is an excellent movement.
I have a hard time keeping up with Seiko and Omega limited editions. Beautiful piece, but doesn't it already exist?! I need to sharpen my fanboy skills. 😂JK - Your review clearly explains what makes these special. Those bezels and blue face do look great!
I disagree that the current seiko's even the 5's are better than the SKX, price point and over-all value. With that in mind, if you want to find value for money watches go to Orient watches.
Seiko divers are absolute junk! I’ve had several of them and nothing problems or my watch surfing and it fogged over the very first time I went diving with my samurai flooded. The watch stops often, is not accurate or dependable! They are good looking, but not worth it! I will never buy another Seiko
Great video. I realize that Seiko isn’t the brand that it was several years ago. That being said, I think the price on these are just NUTS. This puts them into the range of the Tudor Pelagos and black bays, the omega seamaster pro and the britling superocean. Seiko may have improved greatly over the years but it’s not even close to these and many other brands. The price that Seiko is asking for these watches is way out of line. I think they should be $1500-2000 range at best. Seiko’s problem lately is that think way to highly of their product and think it’s in the same league as the other brands I’ve mentioned.
So are you paying for the physical product or the brand? If you want to pay for the physical object then Seiko high end prices are kind of normal with the rest of the industry. Seiko was making grand seiko and these high end seikos are no different than a GS. Is just the name. Seiko would loose thousands of dollars if they sell their LX line for 1500$ as you say. Those are watches that cost a lot to manufacture.
@@watchroll3310 I’m sorry but this watch’s price point is just way to high. They’re not in the same league as the other watches I mentioned. And Seiko would not loose money selling this watch at the price range I mentioned. They would just not be making a ridiculous profit. Even the AD’s I’ve spoken to said that Seiko pricing is nuts. They all do hefty discounts to move the product. And these are AD’s that are also discounting Omegas and Britlings. In my opinion, Seiko still has a long way to go before they can charge a MSRP like this for this watch.
You’re 100% right! It looks like any other seiko that I can buy at Macy’s for a few 100 dollars. I’d rather spend a few bucks more and grab a nice IWC pilot before spending $4,600 on this watch.
There's a difference with an understandable price increase and these prices! Where does Seiko end and Grand Seiko start? Not sure this type of pricing is going to distance Seiko from GS 🤔
I have about 40 Seiko dive watches and couldn't tell you with any confidence which ones have signed crowns. It plays zero importance for me when evaluating a watch. It's absolutely a non-factor, lol.
Is the SLA line going to merge, morph, stabilize... unlike Rolex, Seiko has too many internal brands (like if I bought the MM200 or the MM300)? The SLX miss the mark of the Western customers (aversion to hockey pucks).
The black and gold 057 is really sharp. Thankfully Seiko make sure to keep me from buying it by not offering it with a bracelet and too long lug-to-lug
So I’m going to be that guy I suppose… This watch is entirely overpriced and anybody that would buy it has money to burn… I got my beautiful white dial Seamaster professional for less than that… It cost 4/5 of what my Rolex explorer cost… I have 15 Seiko‘s on my collection… I’ve gone as high as $1800 on one of their watches and I got burned due to poor QC issues… No way… They’re out of there gourd!
It's marketing. No one including Seiko thinks this is going to sell at $4600. The price is to get attention and from all the videos juicing this angle, it's working. When the street price drops, people will think it's a good deal compared to the inflated msrp. It's already down to $3350 on ebay right now.
@@brianbellamy5958 I’m right there with you on some of their offerings working like that… But this one’s going to sell out at the listed price and is only going to be available at their boutique stores in VRY limited quantities… You’re not gonna see this watch at a low price or discounted…They think they’re omega and they’re not…
If you’re going to charge Rolex prices, make them in Rolex sizes. The Sub’s done pretty well at 40mm for quite a while. I got my 39 mm BB58 for $3,750. I won’t spend $4,600 for a wristclock.
I like the watch. But for 800 usd and that’s it. I would never buy a watch that offers -10 / +15s for any price, let alone for 4.5k USD Seiko has a long way to go, in my view.
Personally I think the affordable Seiko5 is the signature of Seiko, so why paid more if you can get a more qualified watch for the same money.( Tudor, Longines ..etc)
Like other watchmakers Seiko has found that you can incrementally raise watch prices by introducing new models every year even if the new versions really aren't worth the higher price. It is not a revelation that watch geeks will pay way more than a watch is really worth. Just look at Rolex.
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I picked up the 057. I couldn’t be happier about it. It’s fantastic
If you want a bargain budget brand that Seiko isn't anymore, it's now Orient you need to look at. Orient pack so much in for the price.
Great quality but their designs are meh. Also their star movements are more expensive also
If Seiko kept time well and were dependable, I would think they were a budget brand but they’re absolute junk. 300 m divers watch floods at 40 feet the first time in use. Garbage. Free is too expensive for these pieces of shit!
I've got a sla 043 , the 62mas with the blue 2nd hand. It's a nice watch but at over 4k , it's expensive for a seiko. Upon closer inspection, it's hard to see how could it be made any better, as it's done so well. The movement should of been regulated though. When you consider that they have used a high quality ever bright steel, a hand assembled movement, zaratsu polishing, beautiful indices and hand set , a gorgeous crystal, limited to 1700 pieces worldwide, then priced them similar to a mass produced omega seamaster 300 with a rubber strap, then maybe their value are justified ?
The omega has without doubt a more luxury name, but is it better than these sla seikos , personally I don't think so . And I'm so happy I only paid 2.5k for mine nearly new.
I think my problem with the price of these pieces is that you can get a MM300 for about 1500 less than these pieces with the same movement inside. I prefer the look of these pieces but I’m sorry to say I don’t think the price is justified, particularly with no bracelet. Here’s hoping for a non-LE version of these in about 6 months at a more reasonable price point once they’ve gouged the fanboys with these.
I'm not sure I've seen the Marine Master 300 in person that I can recall. Do I don't know does it have all the same features like the 904L steel case with Zaratsu polishing? Also, love it or hate it, these new ones have the limited edition tax applied to them.
@@JustBlueFish The MM300 is Zarathustra polished to my knowledge, but it’s not this new steel. I think it is the LE tax on this like you say. Shame because I love the way the cool blue one looks.
@@JustBlueFish My sentiments exactly, I bought a MM300 mint condition for $1370 with braclet and rubber strap a few years ago, now your paying 2-3 times that with no bracelet, so what it's limited edition, it doesn't mean anything.
Seiko was my favorite brand. I have zero problem with then making up market. I tent to enjoy there stuff over 750 dollars more anyway I find the LE stuff to be abysmal though. Also they seem to make alot of mistakes. Watches not being offered in black, not making a newer sarb033/035 (even if up market, yes the sarx exist but they're both quite the same), not offering watches with bracelets that should have them, ect. I find there's so many issues that would have basic fixes. I just can't buy anything from the. The marine master is about the only thing I have my sights on but there's about a dozen omega and tudor models I'll be buying first. It feels like seiko has been making everything I would "almost" want and nearly nothing I love. That's a huge contrast to how I felt 3 years ago.
With no Rolex’s available at retail all brands can now jack up their prices.
What in the F? …I have a hard time believing this feels thousands of dollars different than my MM200
I love these watches, but the price is way way too high. It's already been said, but even with these watches looks like the bezel has a missalignement. And an unsigned crown, only 50 hours power reserve, no bracelet.... I love Seiko, but my next more expensive watch will be a COSC certified Longines. Way less money for a lot more watch....
At this price point it should be a GS. This looks like a “5”. 200 m and a rubber strap is a joke.
Seiko simply have to get their QC right! As far as I could tell the bezel on the black was a hair misaligned. Last year I returned two SPB143 to the respective dealers until I got a copy with an acceptable alignment.
As long as they can make quality watches, they can charge a comparable price to their competitors.
It is not ceramic bezel. it is the same bezel material they use for GS. Steel with paint over
No doubt Seiko needs to move upmarket. However their quality control and material upgrade not fully justify the price difference for me. I used to be a Seiko fan and own two very nice watches(Credor Eichi II and GS SBGA001). But I highly doubt I will get another one in the future...
Above all else, Limited Edition tends to turn me off an entire company. It’s the most pitiful attempt at relevance a watchmaker can do.
Nice watches but the price differential between the main Seiko range and these is too great. Yes the movement is superior, as is the finish of the watch, but not $3000 worth.
Way too expensive. Also, playing the LE game is getting beyond old. They need to stay in their lane.
The limited edition game is, I'm pretty sure, here to stay for brands like Omega and Seiko/Grand Seiko.
It's seikos turn to go up market, Rolex was a tool watch now they are a luxury brand, none of us need mechanical watches they are all luxury. If you want affordable grab a seiko 5 or a Casio
@@merc7paul they are already up market with Grand Seiko. Stop defending their shitty money grabs, it's gross.
My biggest problem whit seiko is that X... In rare some it is 'fine' but still why the fuck they print that everywhere... But that is good for my wallet so maybe it is better this way.. 5 seikos in my box 2 other have been but not forgotten.. Just awesome watches... Hard to have just 1 seiko
Seiko wants to play with the big boys even though their quality control is questionable at best. So their marketing suggested to produce so called limited runs in different colors and raise the prices to increase the perceived value. They might fool the newbie but real watch enthusiasts in Europe and Asia don’t buy their agenda and get the real deal instead as the sales figures prove. Btw the watch is very beautiful, but the price tag is just insane. I would rather get an Omega, Breitling, Tudor or any other Swiss sports watch for that amount of money.
Some people sold their Tudor Black Bay, this thing is on another level in terms of finishing.
I think, I would save , for a Master Co axial movement, at this price point, and also enjoy my green King Turtle 🐢,!, great presentation , !
I am surprised at some of the skeptical comments. Look at it - the bezel appears to align, and you no longer have to tell your friends "Oh, but hardlex resists impact better than sapphire". That right there is worth at lest $4,000.
My biggest problem whit seiko is that X... In rare some it is 'fine' but still why the fuck they print that everywhere... But that is good for my wallet so maybe it is better this way.. 5 seikos in my box 2 other have been but not forgotten.. Just awesome watches... Hard to have just 1 seiko
The part I don’t get…. The X logo. The branding identifies it so it appears as exact clone of the $1000 range ones with the garbage 6R movement….
That's basically a GS with a seiko logo on it. if we are gonna judge seiko for their prices which I think is true then we have to judge Rolex, Patek, AP etc etc which have always been extremely overpriced because of their marketing skills and demand. Seiko is just not a bargain anymore. Prices are more un par with the rest of the industry if you really know how much high quality their high end pieces can be. Finishing alone are better than anything else (omega, rolex etc) Some QC problems are unacceptable on their 1k-2k watches which is where you can find them but no, Seiko's prices are not nuts. It's a brand older than Rolex and they obviously know what they are doing. People buy these things.
No one in Europe buys these things.
@@stevenvandemsky7290 you are wrong there!
well said
Sort of justified especially if the 8L movement is used it's a very nice movement it's a 28.800vph so high beat i think they decorate too with striping and engine turning, but that dosen't make it run better, it's architecture is similar to it's Swiss counterparts but more compact, i would love one i like the way the second hand is done too on the new Seiko's, it looks top shelf. Cheers Guy. P.S. Vintage time Australia (on yt) takes apart a undecorated 8L35A it is an excellent movement.
I would buy the Seiko SLA 055/057 over a Tudor Black Bay, Omega diver or Breitling, but not over a Tudor Pelagus.
I have a hard time keeping up with Seiko and Omega limited editions. Beautiful piece, but doesn't it already exist?! I need to sharpen my fanboy skills. 😂JK - Your review clearly explains what makes these special. Those bezels and blue face do look great!
GORGEOUS watches!
I'll wait until they release a more non limited & approachable price option.
You're right. Limmited editions is a way to rise prices. Don't buy them....
It's nice as I like the shape of the SKX013's and it looks like that shape, plus it's got really nice hands, perfect.
In live this watch looks like it's worth 10 000$.That everbright steel looks just stunning,I am just angry I do not own it yet!!
very nice watch i do like ... just to expensive , and another limited edtion watch..... cheers
Fine review as I have come to expect. Thanks Guy.
Seiko still the bargain brand of watches and still has high end watches. You cant buy a new Land Cruiser with the price of a new Corolla!
Tudor money😂😂😂😂😂 I like it, im just not giving them that much money.
I disagree that the current seiko's even the 5's are better than the SKX, price point and over-all value. With that in mind, if you want to find value for money watches go to Orient watches.
Seiko divers are absolute junk! I’ve had several of them and nothing problems or my watch surfing and it fogged over the very first time I went diving with my samurai flooded. The watch stops often, is not accurate or dependable! They are good looking, but not worth it! I will never buy another Seiko
Excellent review of a fantastic watch. The watch is worth every penny.
Hi Guy, i fogot to say the 8L movements have to be sent to Japan for service which i am not a fan of at all.
Great video. I realize that Seiko isn’t the brand that it was several years ago. That being said, I think the price on these are just NUTS. This puts them into the range of the Tudor Pelagos and black bays, the omega seamaster pro and the britling superocean. Seiko may have improved greatly over the years but it’s not even close to these and many other brands. The price that Seiko is asking for these watches is way out of line. I think they should be $1500-2000 range at best. Seiko’s problem lately is that think way to highly of their product and think it’s in the same league as the other brands I’ve mentioned.
So are you paying for the physical product or the brand? If you want to pay for the physical object then Seiko high end prices are kind of normal with the rest of the industry. Seiko was making grand seiko and these high end seikos are no different than a GS. Is just the name.
Seiko would loose thousands of dollars if they sell their LX line for 1500$ as you say. Those are watches that cost a lot to manufacture.
@@watchroll3310 I’m sorry but this watch’s price point is just way to high. They’re not in the same league as the other watches I mentioned. And Seiko would not loose money selling this watch at the price range I mentioned. They would just not be making a ridiculous profit. Even the AD’s I’ve spoken to said that Seiko pricing is nuts. They all do hefty discounts to move the product. And these are AD’s that are also discounting Omegas and Britlings. In my opinion, Seiko still has a long way to go before they can charge a MSRP like this for this watch.
@@garyzimmerman6367 It's not way too high because these will all sell out. lol another Seiko hater. Go suck up to Lolex and Chewdah.
You’re 100% right! It looks like any other seiko that I can buy at Macy’s for a few 100 dollars. I’d rather spend a few bucks more and grab a nice IWC pilot before spending $4,600 on this watch.
@@baldilocks1914 So you'd spend $7k on a watch with a $550 Eta movement?
A bracelet is a must have for me. It’s too humid in Alabama for straps. But dang, that’s a good looking watch.
There's a difference with an understandable price increase and these prices! Where does Seiko end and Grand Seiko start? Not sure this type of pricing is going to distance Seiko from GS 🤔
It's interesting that omega wouldn't be expensive for 8,000
4600 €/£/$ is a bargain, not? ;-)
Yes not value for money, a Swiss diver at this price is a better watch
Great watches. This is actually the right price.
Any seiko over 2k should be a grand seiko.
The only question is which one? Black and gilt or blue?
Shock horror another another anniversary 😅
Dislike the pointy lugs, deal-killer.
It still doesn't have a signed seiko crown... lol
I have about 40 Seiko dive watches and couldn't tell you with any confidence which ones have signed crowns. It plays zero importance for me when evaluating a watch. It's absolutely a non-factor, lol.
@@brianbellamy5958 Haha I get what you mean especially with seiko divers lol
Is the SLA line going to merge, morph, stabilize... unlike Rolex, Seiko has too many internal brands (like if I bought the MM200 or the MM300)? The SLX miss the mark of the Western customers (aversion to hockey pucks).
Just watched another video reviewing a Speedmaster at $81,000.
Was it at least in precious metals?
@@JustBlueFish Some kind of special Omega gold.
Seiko is too notch specially Grand Seiko which I think is better than Rolex
You have to start interacting with your Facebook group a lot more. It's dying....
Certainly beautiful but I’m looking at gently used GS at this price point instead.
Seiko should be priced at $10,000. I hope they do because they deserve it.
How much, give your head a shake, behave. 560, not 5600, oh behave.
Well made and attractive watches, sorry but just need to find a dealer that negotiates on price more.
The black and gold 057 is really sharp. Thankfully Seiko make sure to keep me from buying it by not offering it with a bracelet and too long lug-to-lug
These models exude more quality and better finish than omega seamasters and tudor bbs believe it or not.
So I’m going to be that guy I suppose… This watch is entirely overpriced and anybody that would buy it has money to burn… I got my beautiful white dial Seamaster professional for less than that… It cost 4/5 of what my Rolex explorer cost… I have 15 Seiko‘s on my collection…
I’ve gone as high as $1800 on one of their watches and I got burned due to poor QC issues… No way… They’re out of there gourd!
It's marketing. No one including Seiko thinks this is going to sell at $4600. The price is to get attention and from all the videos juicing this angle, it's working. When the street price drops, people will think it's a good deal compared to the inflated msrp. It's already down to $3350 on ebay right now.
@@brianbellamy5958 I’m right there with you on some of their offerings working like that… But this one’s going to sell out at the listed price and is only going to be available at their boutique stores in VRY limited quantities… You’re not gonna see this watch at a low price or discounted…They think they’re omega and they’re not…
@@jjbuckmaster7059 it's on ebay for $3350 right now. I know this because I bought one for $3100 last week, lol.
@@brianbellamy5958 Well good for you… You pay $1500 too much…
@@jjbuckmaster7059 Well I guess that's a safer response than having some humility and admitting you don't know what you're talking about.
Totally fine the product is worth it 🎉
If you’re going to charge Rolex prices, make them in Rolex sizes. The Sub’s done pretty well at 40mm for quite a while. I got my 39 mm BB58 for $3,750. I won’t spend $4,600 for a wristclock.
If you have a large wrist, this size is fine
So is even the rolexes why is that not questioned
I like the watch. But for 800 usd and that’s it.
I would never buy a watch that offers -10 / +15s for any price, let alone for 4.5k USD
Seiko has a long way to go, in my view.
Seemingly so.
even škoda was a luxury car back in the day but today its a regular car. and lexus is expensive toyota. why could not a seiko be 4600??
It has nothing to do with getting very expensive. If you are used to a Toyota Camry you can't just say Toyota is getting expensive with the Lexus
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?
YEP! Too expensive :(
Personally I think the affordable Seiko5 is the signature of Seiko, so why paid more if you can get a more qualified watch for the same money.( Tudor, Longines ..etc)
Like other watchmakers Seiko has found that you can incrementally raise watch prices by introducing new models every year even if the new versions really aren't worth the higher price.
It is not a revelation that watch geeks will pay way more than a watch is really worth. Just look at Rolex.
$4600 !!!
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Not ceramic.
Getting? Lol it's been like this for at least 5 years. The SLA017 was the prototype.