Oh man, that's heavy. You gotta be like a ghost, never even give them a chance. If there's people in local, or you get snooped out, set up shop for the day in an alternative space. That was one thing that took me a while to learn, have multiple jobs for your activities in high, low, and null, that way if something is going on, you are on the other side of the galaxy. You might not be able to fight them off, but denying them a kill, or getting away is a win.
Another thing is the unscanned anomalies, they are very easy for someone to direction scan you and see where you are,identify you etc. All they have to do is look for wrecks, then see the ship you're flying (the more expensive and bigger the easier target you are), and they can warp right too you. It's not always feasible, but if you do the scanned anomalies you have to prove down, they would have to prove you down too, so you can then 360 degree scan waiting to see proves closing in on you and that's an early warning. But if you're in null undocked, ratting, with people in local you don't know, you're asking for the attention - which is a good wait to bait and counter act groups like that with enough people and firepower.
+1 to the people who recommended the Ishtar or putting an MJD on ratting BCs or BSs. In Serpentis space I can make 30m a tick on average running Havens or Sanctums, the ship+fit is around 200m and can easily tank anything that doesn't involve being webbed while putting out 700dps. Plus it has drone tracking bonuses to where you can put a single heavy drone on a frigate / destroyer / BC rat and it'll shred it within 30 seconds. Super quick wave clearing!
If you are standing still next to your mtu, sentry drones might be a good idea. You will save on flight time and you can pick them up fast if you need to leave in a hurry
I was caught by 3 pirates in a damn WORMHOLE. I didn't know they lived in it. I had a 2++ BILLION TENGU and they setup wrecks whcih decloaked me. They were obviously pro. I was so scared of losing my only best ship so I was BEGGING them 1 BIL for release. Anyways I was halfway on my regen "600+ per sec perfect build". I was surviving and my HAMS where hurting them some some. I thought I was a goner so I FIGURE if I was gonna die, I may as well go down in a blaze of GLORY instead of begging si I said, SCREW you damn losers. I HIT OVERHEAT and was shaking in anger and fear. SUDDENLY their hit man, webber guy LIFE dropped like a FLY, he stopped and flew away. The second guys LIFE dropped also fast. I finally was left against a a battelshop I forgot exactly what kind it was as I was panicking. SO we went head to head and I was able to use my boosters again, his life dropped FAST TOO. then he warpped away. I saw the other two return and I warped away. I cloaked and from that day onward. I was NEVER ever going to stay close to the entry or anything. I would never hang close to any Structure. CLOAK was forever 99%. I would NEVER enter any wormhole randomly and if I did I would quickly warp away and Dscan like a crazy nutcase. I lucked out. Sorry for long story. Remember guys, if you're gonna die, Overheat and GO down with at least 1 of them. You never know if they will bail out or not. Maybe they had too expensive modules on everywhere too. Remember that not every Pirate or Null sec people wanna lose their ship either so just take a chance and FIGHT HARD. Get the smaller ship down fast first then finish the next weak guy. Then look at your damage on the final big guy and switch to their weakness. GO to town on them all you got.
You should use a MJD, being cap stable isn't as important when your 100kms away and not much dps pressure is on you. You should also use sentries, the travel of the heavies adds up. If they do get to close you scoop your sentries and MJD away. It also makes you harder to catch because your 100 km off the spawn. One last thing you should also expand local so you can see everyone.
The closest the rats ever get is within 30KM, but with the shields running, I’m never in any day, the lowest my shields have fell is around 50-60% Right now, it’s working for me, so I won’t be changing it until I need to. That could be viable for the system I was in, but two systems over there is on average around 400 people at any given time, I got use to the scrolling then, so it’s just something I’m use to and I have my UI sitting the way I want it.
@@Expedishun I would argue the dead rattlesnake is proof that it's not working for you. How ratters beat hunters is by not getting caught, once your tackled your playing their game. Adaptive planning is how you survive and patience. You play how you want to play we in the comments are just the peanut gallery with 20/20 hindsight.
@@casp3roo7 tbh, it was a silly mistake on my part that got me caught. I was ratting in our main system. A system that when rival corps and alliances are wanting to gank us, that’s where they go. Since I’ve moved system, I’ve seen one or two enter into system and move on instantly.
It’s the Wild West. Death is part of the game and with each, hopefully you get smarter next time. I’ve lost billions, once literally fell asleep on my couch and was a sitting duck in low sec.
Falling asleep losing marauders or jumping a marauder into a triple elite edencom fleet make my worse days or getting a proximity decloak in a camp even when travel fit , dc in abyssals not good .... Still minecraft can be brutal too if your daughter sets a trap so you fall in lava and lose all your diamond kit..sigh . Eldon ring is super brutal , no warnings of things behind you at all , no minimap ,no pointers ,no record of npc conversations and very unbalanced bosses yet all the more fun for it .
Years ago the Rattlesnake was my good ol' mission ship, but the price has doubled since so I trained into the Golem for the same price and way more power. Not that it would save me on a bad day like yours, if they want you dead, you'll be dead. I hope you pick up the pieces and move on!
Lost 2 Paladins in a week thanks to Blops. You just have to make it harder for them to find / catch you and of course watch that local. ( they usually log off manticores in systems so intel might be useless ) Just be present and not semi afk and you can get out.
@@Expedishun I'm training for Dreads now. They can't drop with 7 people on a Dread. But yeah, I kinda was mad about the first Paladin I lost, it was almost 3bil.
ok, not sure why youtube suggested this vid to me and i only skipped through it for maybe 2-3 min tbh but there are so many issues with your overview, local, missing intel chan etc. that i think you should talk to someone who actually knows his way around the space you live i'm not sure your corp members are the place to go there from the limited feedback i got from what i've seen in this vid.
I’ve said it many times, when I’m using videos from the part of space I live in, I purposely hide a lot of the stuff that could give away where I am, for the privacy of the rest of the corp
@@Expedishun Yeah I was also going to mention this. the high BRM is tempting, but having to constantly sift through 400 people in local is a nightmare. Also, as others have said, you can change your local window to just show names and the blue/neut/red icon next to them to show more at once. I also want to add to that to say, always, always, always have your Local window expanded high enough you can see to the bottom-most people with room to spare. There have been many times that that one single rule gave me just enough time to get my Hulks and Porpoise off grid when neutrals showed up. If I had to scroll to see them, 100% guaranteed I would have lost all three ships. People really do hate us because 'grr goons' - We need to act accordingly and take all the necessary steps. One at a time, you'll definitely get there too.
Why don't you use an Ishtar for ratting the combat sites. Cheaper to buy and dose the job.... So If you get hot dropped you can easily buy a new one and continue. Just a fort because I know how you feel losing so much ISK :)
100% bud, but due to the majority of my early game being focused around mining, I haven't had a lot of skills in combat ships up until recently. So, I'm still a bit away from Ishtar. In saying that, I seen a video of an Ishtar running Havens recently, it scared me ngl. The fact its so hands off, makes me feel uneasy, but one day I will run it.
Hehe your bad day sound like a normal month in eve for me. Hence why I always wonder how come people have 100 of million in their wallet/asset. Im constantly poor.
@@Expedishun I would be happy if my wallet could have 3bill for longer than a week. Still I keep playing questing my sanity. I mean the game pisses me of more than anything at least for now. But it´s fun and good to watch your videos and others.
Oh man, that's heavy. You gotta be like a ghost, never even give them a chance. If there's people in local, or you get snooped out, set up shop for the day in an alternative space. That was one thing that took me a while to learn, have multiple jobs for your activities in high, low, and null, that way if something is going on, you are on the other side of the galaxy. You might not be able to fight them off, but denying them a kill, or getting away is a win.
Another thing is the unscanned anomalies, they are very easy for someone to direction scan you and see where you are,identify you etc. All they have to do is look for wrecks, then see the ship you're flying (the more expensive and bigger the easier target you are), and they can warp right too you. It's not always feasible, but if you do the scanned anomalies you have to prove down, they would have to prove you down too, so you can then 360 degree scan waiting to see proves closing in on you and that's an early warning. But if you're in null undocked, ratting, with people in local you don't know, you're asking for the attention - which is a good wait to bait and counter act groups like that with enough people and firepower.
you can compact your local list so it only shows names and not icons that way you see way more people
Yea that's been done, was actually done before this video went up, its just the footage was older than that
+1 to the people who recommended the Ishtar or putting an MJD on ratting BCs or BSs. In Serpentis space I can make 30m a tick on average running Havens or Sanctums, the ship+fit is around 200m and can easily tank anything that doesn't involve being webbed while putting out 700dps. Plus it has drone tracking bonuses to where you can put a single heavy drone on a frigate / destroyer / BC rat and it'll shred it within 30 seconds. Super quick wave clearing!
Ishtar is currently being skilled into right now, sadly its just a waiting game at this point.
If you are standing still next to your mtu, sentry drones might be a good idea. You will save on flight time and you can pick them up fast if you need to leave in a hurry
It’s something that I have been messing around with, will see how it works out.
I was caught by 3 pirates in a damn WORMHOLE. I didn't know they lived in it. I had a 2++ BILLION TENGU and they setup wrecks whcih decloaked me. They were obviously pro. I was so scared of losing my only best ship so I was BEGGING them 1 BIL for release. Anyways I was halfway on my regen "600+ per sec perfect build". I was surviving and my HAMS where hurting them some some. I thought I was a goner so I FIGURE if I was gonna die, I may as well go down in a blaze of GLORY instead of begging si I said, SCREW you damn losers. I HIT OVERHEAT and was shaking in anger and fear. SUDDENLY their hit man, webber guy LIFE dropped like a FLY, he stopped and flew away. The second guys LIFE dropped also fast. I finally was left against a a battelshop I forgot exactly what kind it was as I was panicking. SO we went head to head and I was able to use my boosters again, his life dropped FAST TOO. then he warpped away. I saw the other two return and I warped away. I cloaked and from that day onward. I was NEVER ever going to stay close to the entry or anything. I would never hang close to any Structure. CLOAK was forever 99%. I would NEVER enter any wormhole randomly and if I did I would quickly warp away and Dscan like a crazy nutcase. I lucked out. Sorry for long story. Remember guys, if you're gonna die, Overheat and GO down with at least 1 of them. You never know if they will bail out or not. Maybe they had too expensive modules on everywhere too. Remember that not every Pirate or Null sec people wanna lose their ship either so just take a chance and FIGHT HARD. Get the smaller ship down fast first then finish the next weak guy. Then look at your damage on the final big guy and switch to their weakness. GO to town on them all you got.
You should use a MJD, being cap stable isn't as important when your 100kms away and not much dps pressure is on you. You should also use sentries, the travel of the heavies adds up. If they do get to close you scoop your sentries and MJD away. It also makes you harder to catch because your 100 km off the spawn. One last thing you should also expand local so you can see everyone.
The closest the rats ever get is within 30KM, but with the shields running, I’m never in any day, the lowest my shields have fell is around 50-60%
Right now, it’s working for me, so I won’t be changing it until I need to.
That could be viable for the system I was in, but two systems over there is on average around 400 people at any given time, I got use to the scrolling then, so it’s just something I’m use to and I have my UI sitting the way I want it.
@@Expedishun I would argue the dead rattlesnake is proof that it's not working for you. How ratters beat hunters is by not getting caught, once your tackled your playing their game. Adaptive planning is how you survive and patience.
You play how you want to play we in the comments are just the peanut gallery with 20/20 hindsight.
@@casp3roo7 tbh, it was a silly mistake on my part that got me caught. I was ratting in our main system. A system that when rival corps and alliances are wanting to gank us, that’s where they go.
Since I’ve moved system, I’ve seen one or two enter into system and move on instantly.
@@Expedishun What system is that,I am looking for a ratting spot myself? o7
@@adnan4688 Currently on a break from the game, so technically not ratting anywhere
It’s the Wild West. Death is part of the game and with each, hopefully you get smarter next time. I’ve lost billions, once literally fell asleep on my couch and was a sitting duck in low sec.
You fell asleep? Hahahah
I love blops fleets, got about 80% of my fit trained
Falling asleep losing marauders or jumping a marauder into a triple elite edencom fleet make my worse days or getting a proximity decloak in a camp even when travel fit , dc in abyssals not good .... Still minecraft can be brutal too if your daughter sets a trap so you fall in lava and lose all your diamond kit..sigh . Eldon ring is super brutal , no warnings of things behind you at all , no minimap ,no pointers ,no record of npc conversations and very unbalanced bosses yet all the more fun for it .
You gotta get compact mode on your local so that it doesnt load all the pictures, let's you see 3x the number of names
Already done :)
Hey, good videos change local chat to compact so you don’t see portraits much easier to see that way
Years ago the Rattlesnake was my good ol' mission ship, but the price has doubled since so I trained into the Golem for the same price and way more power. Not that it would save me on a bad day like yours, if they want you dead, you'll be dead. I hope you pick up the pieces and move on!
A golem is what I will be in one day, gotta work up to that.
welcome to EvE. i lost 2 mackinaws and a porpoise last night to blops. win some lose some.
Oooof, that’s rough bud!
Lost 2 Paladins in a week thanks to Blops. You just have to make it harder for them to find / catch you and of course watch that local. ( they usually log off manticores in systems so intel might be useless ) Just be present and not semi afk and you can get out.
Yea, rough going getting Blops'd, all part of the null sec life I suppose.
@@Expedishun I'm training for Dreads now. They can't drop with 7 people on a Dread.
But yeah, I kinda was mad about the first Paladin I lost, it was almost 3bil.
@@alinn.4341 Almost 3 bill lost, that had to sting bud!
ok, not sure why youtube suggested this vid to me and i only skipped through it for maybe 2-3 min tbh but there are so many issues with your overview, local, missing intel chan etc. that i think you should talk to someone who actually knows his way around the space you live i'm not sure your corp members are the place to go there from the limited feedback i got from what i've seen in this vid.
I’ve said it many times, when I’m using videos from the part of space I live in, I purposely hide a lot of the stuff that could give away where I am, for the privacy of the rest of the corp
you shoulnt be ratting in 1dq anyways haha
Trust me, I have learnt that lesson the hard way haha
@@Expedishun Yeah I was also going to mention this. the high BRM is tempting, but having to constantly sift through 400 people in local is a nightmare. Also, as others have said, you can change your local window to just show names and the blue/neut/red icon next to them to show more at once. I also want to add to that to say, always, always, always have your Local window expanded high enough you can see to the bottom-most people with room to spare. There have been many times that that one single rule gave me just enough time to get my Hulks and Porpoise off grid when neutrals showed up. If I had to scroll to see them, 100% guaranteed I would have lost all three ships.
People really do hate us because 'grr goons' - We need to act accordingly and take all the necessary steps. One at a time, you'll definitely get there too.
Why don't you use an Ishtar for ratting the combat sites. Cheaper to buy and dose the job....
So If you get hot dropped you can easily buy a new one and continue.
Just a fort because I know how you feel losing so much ISK :)
100% bud, but due to the majority of my early game being focused around mining, I haven't had a lot of skills in combat ships up until recently. So, I'm still a bit away from Ishtar.
In saying that, I seen a video of an Ishtar running Havens recently, it scared me ngl. The fact its so hands off, makes me feel uneasy, but one day I will run it.
Gila will work too and less skill intensive. Make sure it’s a passive fit though cause bloods will neut you in the one of the last waves of havens
@@Benjaminthecool_ the Gila is the ship I used before going to Rattlesnake
Change chat settings to small without portraits ať least..
This was what came to my mind throught the video too.
When I die, as a solo player, I usually just do a different kind of content, buy plex, or log off haha. I really need to get into a better corp.
I definitely would suggest looking for a different corp if thats what you are doing when you die hahah
don't spaff in 1DQ :)
I don’t anymore 😂
u made quite some rookie nulsec mistakes nowhere is unreachable in nullsec people being called is every corp
Hehe your bad day sound like a normal month in eve for me. Hence why I always wonder how come people have 100 of million in their wallet/asset. Im constantly poor.
As long as I don’t fall under 3 billion in the wallet, I’m happy hahah
@@Expedishun I would be happy if my wallet could have 3bill for longer than a week. Still I keep playing questing my sanity. I mean the game pisses me of more than anything at least for now. But it´s fun and good to watch your videos and others.
@@ZeroWalker26 I’ve been there a good few times where I am questioning why I am still playing 😂