Went through a lot of harmonicas when I found the G.M. that was the one for me got a full set, did want a low F . The new G.M. is not for me. I do have a low F Seydel Session Steel It took a lot of work to make it play with ease .Had one in the key of A it was so unplayable and air leaking all the other harps you mention I had the same experience.😎
I have to disagree with you, Jonah, on the Seydel Session Steel. I didn't like it at first but once the steel reeds were broke in after about a month, it responded a lot better and it played louder. Now, the Session Steel is one of my go-to harps. I just wanted to give my 2 cents on it. Thanks for your great UA-cam channel. I like it a lot.
Play what you like brother! What I've found in my brief time in the harmonica world is that everyone swears by different brands and models of harps. We just gotta find what suits us personally I guess.
@@norfolknwhey4787 maybe, but I have to disagree with your statement, at least regarding steel reeds. Steel reeds do have a break-in period, and they also need to be warm (room temp-ish)to play well. the Session’s problem, imo, is the way too delicate comb. Replace it with a Blue Moon solid cordian comb, and you got a really nice harp.
Session steel , immediately blew out a reed,also didnt like the feel, marine bands seem to sound the best but not terribly durable also, as expensive as they are I would like them to last much longer. Lee Oskar last the longer but are not the most responsive, Golden Melodys are fun , responsive but also don't have a very long lifespan. It's been my experience that once a reed flattens you can retune it but it won't last for long. If Horner would make individual screw in reed replacements then I would be happy with them. It's hard for me to justify $100 dollars for a harp when that is about what a gig pays when they used to be $6 and you would get $100. Especially when even when trying to take it easy you still blow them out. Suzuki seem to last but that might be that I tend not to play them on account of their shrill tone.I still have not found an affordable, long lasting option that is really responsive and you can get good fat tone without blowing them out, please help.
Have to say i bought a Seydel Steel in A as an emergency 3 years ago , I had a gig coming up and my usual Hohner Blues Harp had gone badly out of tune - i think a reed had broken. The Seydel is still going, still sounding good. I've played Hohner, Lee Oskar, Dannecker, Brendan Power all good harps but the Seydel is as good as any of them. Well that's my experience!😃
Hohners are good harps,but the harps and replacement parts are way overpriced IMHO. I love the feel of my (one) Seydel, but I agree 100%. They are alittle harder to play and not as responsive as many others. I won't get another one. I still stand by Eastops, although I am not affiliated with them in any way. They have a rich tone, are bendable and responsive , and are affordable.
I bought a Marine Band earlier this month to start learning and see if I'd be interested in it. I find the lower two reeds to be really poor, I thought it was my technique at first but it's just the harmonica. I'm about to oder two East tops; they seem like the best value for an intermediate or beginner-level harmonica. I'm really enjoying playing though. I've played guitar, bass, piano/keys, drums, and violin for 20 years so I'm thankfully learning fairly quickly. My biggest issue right now is with trills, I practice them slowly but I can't seem to get them fast and clean like I want to.
We all have preferences. I played quite a few, starting with Hohners when they were $5 each. I have a full collection of Lee Oskars and they last longer than others, are louder than others, and don't pull my mustache. When I was playing every week with bands, the Hohners would last 1 month, the Lee Oskars 6 months... anyway I love the LO's. Maybe try a different brand someday.
Circa 1968, I splurged on a Hohner "Blues Harp," first gen, around $7.50, LOL. The wood was darker, and though it swelled, I whittled the comb to spare the lip abrasion, held it together with dental floss when the pins fell out, and then stuck it away once plastic Special 20s saved the day; no soaking, etc. Last year I resurrected the BH, bought new Mband Deluxe cover plates, and floated a newish MBand comb in Watco Butcher Block Oil - an alkyd, which fully soaked in. Drained the excess, repeated over three or four days, then air-dried for a couple weeks. Alkyds dry hard, and non-toxic, giving a perfect combo of wood and impermeable seal like plastic. Original plates installed and after reed tuning, it plays better than ever, but mostly keep it as my heirloom trophy. Go-to harps today, Rockets all the way. Either cover style is fine.
I have only been playing Harmonica for three years but in that time I have managed to own 21 Harmonicas. The only ones I have had trouble with are the Marine Band Crossover and the Marine Band deluxe both of which had teeth that swelled and broke after a few months. Both the Special 20 and the Rocket sound and play at least as good and these are the Harps I will be sticking with in the future. Wooden combs seem to be aimed at the purist snobs and not the players who are looking for the best sound and reliability.
The Special 20 and Rockets are awesome. I think some people think the combs are cheap plastic. The ABS plastic is high quality plastic with a bit of high grade rubber mixed in I believe? I researched what ABS plastic was! The SP20 is a great instrument for sure!
@@allenhawker3911ABS despite its appearance is no doubt a great and sturdy type of plastic! Even legos use them, so they're pretty much some of the best in the industry afaik
Lee Os. Got one from Amazon and seriously thought I’d bought a fake or a toy. Really questioned it. Light weight. Shrill and not great feel in the mouth. Too deep. Rubbish. Sorry Lee O fans. I’m Rocket Girl for a reason 🚀👩🏻
I have bought two Lee Oscar’s lately, both have multiple leaky/problematic reeds. I had to mallet the reed rivet to fix the leak. And BTW they sound kinda shrill. Seydel 1847 series is VERY nice - the best I’ve played so far. On the cheaper side, Hohner Special 20s are quite nice and fun (the only thing - the brass reeds are more flexible than seydel’s stainless steel reeds, so it can be a little hard to precisely control the 3 draw bend)
Jonah, The Session Steel is actually a good harp - but with a shitty comb. With a Blue Moon acrylic or cordian comb, and some very minor tweaking of the reeds, I really like the Sessions. But you are right about out of the box playability. If you’re willing to at least remove the cover plates and adjust the reed gap, you’ll end up with a nice harp. I don’t get why the Quality Control on the Session is not at the 1847 level. …I just don’t get those metal combed harps. Why?
i find the marine bad way way toosharp in the mouth esp when i play boogie woogie 8/8 fast really really hurt the lips cant believe any hohner maker ever plays one to know how sharp the egdes are in the mouth secondlly the lee oscars with the numbers stamped on the back plate rip into your lips beccause they are raised above the level of the backplate and who can read numbers when the harp is in your mouth ! great video cheers barry new zealand
Harmonicas I will never buy again: -Lee Oskars, they are just inferior to the competition in my view, so not going to try a Tombo either. A pity, because they have lots of interesting tunnings. -Special 20, nothing wrong about them, but I very much prefer a Rocket for the price difference -Eastopp T008k, sounds good but feels cheap (they are very cheap though, so I might play that if broke) Harmonicas I tried that I will buy again: Marine Bands (any of them, yeah I am up for the change screws thingy), Rocket, Suzukis Manji and Hammond. If not mentioned above I have never tried them so no comment. I have my eyes on Seydel 1847 and Suzuki Promaster and Olive. That's all folks!!
Hey, you should try the Fender Blues Deville. It's not a bad harp for the price. It plays well. The downside for a new player is that there are no numbers to mark the holes.
I bought a Lee Oscar that has multiple reeds that do not work (without MAJOR airflow). Like you say, once you've tried it, you can't return it. So, $$ out the window. I won't buy another Lee Oscar again! Marine Band and others have been great.
I hear you about the Seydel Blues Soloist Pro. The first one I bought was my first Low F harp. I loved it. It played wonderfully right out of the box and still does 5 years later. Consequently I bought several more in other keys. Everyone of them has been leaky, out of tune, etc. I still love the first one, but the quality control of the line in general is just not up to par with Seydel's other lines.
A lot of older harp players I know swear by the Marine Band Classic, probably because it's similar to the first harmonicas they ever played. Don't get me wrong, the people I've met who play them are phenomenal, but I'm too much of a younghead to get into them. Ever since I moved to Japan, the Suzuki Manji has been my favorite "wooden" comb harmonica.
Personally, I'll never buy another Dabell Noble or Contender. The reason: I didn't find them as responsive as the [Dabell] Story. I have 4 of those in Alt. tunings...and I love how they play and sound!!
started of with a 7 box of cheep honers 20 years ago. since then i have used lee osker, then i got a sydel session steel as i had a gig coming up and blew a reed in practice, out of the box i just loved the session steel. have bought 4 more in various keys. but of late have been really liking the konsheng Mars and have bout 3 of them too.
What is your evaluation of EastTop Harmonicas...? They're priced very low and they look good, but are they...? If sharp edges on the cover plates bother you, why not just get some metal files, they come in different different degrees of coarseness and smoothe out the defects until they're comfortable. A $25.00 EastHarp with a little work can become okay for you, eh...?!
I wont buy again a Fender Blues Deluxe, very bad expirience with set of harps. I have always ask myself: how a brand knowned world wide could put their name on this piece of junk. It's a rip off.
Made in Chinese factory’s and just slap their name in that way they can get buyers on every budget, they are straight trash I bought some for my kids and they were awful, but the fender blues deville’s are not terrible for the money
About fenders. First I bought in C. With little adjustment, I made it to play good for me. Next I bought in A and G. But it was mistake. I can't make them play good in second and third holes. Now I bought Hohner Big River in G, and the difference is big!
I can't buy wooden comb harps anymore. They're ridiculously priced and I found with regular use sometimes the partition between holes eventually breaks and leaves 4 holes unusable. (3 Hohner Blues Harps later...) I have been using some Marine Band harps, but I went with Big River for cost reasons and a plastic comb to avoid the wood becoming brittle. Bought an inexpensive set of Hohner Piedmont harps in a variety of keys. (Mostly for the case heh) It was nice to have some of the odd use keys (8 diff keys in set) but they were like blowing thru weightless baskets. Some value for sure, but as you get better at playing ....you will just deepen your frown as you encounter them. Thanks for the information. 👍
I’ve got a set of Fender Blues Deluxe harps and I have to agree. They don’t sound terrible but, especially for bending, you’re really having to fight the instrument, perhaps more so than if it was made with stainless steel reeds.
watched a few of your posts.most of them are pretty useful & I recommend you or Tomlinson to my friends who want to learn. BUT I can't believe you named a marine band as a bad harmonica!!! I been playing em for years same as my dad (he's 88 & STILL playing) come on J anyone can pull a nail out mate!!!!!!
I picked up a Big River used...dirty, rusted a little, didn't work right. Took apart, cleaned very well, adjusted and.... It is WONDERFUL! Surprised, and very glad.
Yeah I don’t get why Hohner doesn’t change the marine band to use screws off the production line. Very silly. The marine band deluxe is Far superior from what I hear. I also have heard bad things about the Seydel session steel. I’ll tell ya a harp I didn’t initially like is a Manji M-20. Very airy feeling and isn’t forgiving if your embouchure isn’t great. After some time and gapping they are great now but not out of the box.
The Marine Band classic is actually pretty good in the hands of good players, Jonah is a decent amateur I wouldn't;t create a youtube channel with this kind of level
One Harmonica I will not buy again is the Marine band by Honer. I don't like it at all for the same reason as you mentioned in the video. I started Harmonica playing the blues harps and i think they are a good instruments for the price range
The Seydel Session Steel is all I play now, so yeah, I disagree with your assessment of that particular harp. I am a rather large mammal and I am pretty hard on my harps, but Session Steel holds up extremely well. I liked the Hohner crossover, but at one hundred bucks per harp, it didn’t last as long as a Seydel. Oh, and here’s an easy fix for having a harmonica with a steel comb, Don’t hit yourself in the teeth with it! Thanks for the video.
Mr Fox, this is an excellent video. I agree with you completely. Despite their great reputation, I avoid wood-combed Marine Bands. Also, I avoid Seydel session steel. The steel reeds are less agile. And the Seydel Solist Pro is pure crap. My go-to harps are Kongsheng Bluebirds. Also, not really a fan of Dabell. Their minor key Story harps are good alternative to Lee Oskars but to me, the Noble and Contender are only adequate at best.
Haha seydel blues soloist pro awful harp I contacted the techs for a solution to the 2nd hole specifically which I could not get in tune no matter how much I tried adjusting the reeds they basically said oh well s-d off. I'm fairly new but all my other Harps have been fine. I also have a set of the origins that I'm saving until I can do them justice, different class.
Are you out of your mind???? Session steels bashed by pros? No They are decent and waaaay better than SP20 The Solist pro is as good as mb deluxe And the lightning? Well, it’s of the highest calibre I guess you know more than Charlie musselwhite eh Lol
I agree with almost all of your evaluations, except for the Seydel Lightning. I can understand your complaint, but I have yet to experience it myself and play my Lightning really a lot. So perhaps it is just an anatomical difference -- but I do agree that the high price makes it quite a risk to buy because the buyer could end up having the problem that you experienced. If you have the money for such an expensive harp then the Arkia Signature is an excellent alternative!
I want to try one, but they look like a taller harmonica and harps like that usually hurt me, so I haven’t been able to justify dropping $200 on a harmonica that might not work. I’m sure I will try at some point. I don’t have a review. One of my students in the past had them and really loved them.
I hit my teeth once on a brass Blue Moon comb. I still like the comb, but I am a lot more careful putting it up to my mouth! I haven't tried a Harmo or the Pure Harp. I wonder if sanding and refinishing the Pure Harp would help. I recommend against getting Fenders. That one in particular I'm not sure about the manufacture of, but several are their models are Easttops and the Easttop equivalents are cheaper. (I did get their Lee Oskar one and one of their Seydel models, but only because they were discontinued and I was able to get them cheaper than the models they were based on.) I could be wrong, but the Mars shouldn't have nickel in it. I think only the Solist has nickel in the covers. (I just destroyed my Mars trying to retune the 3 blow for Paddy. Waiting on a replacement plate from Rockin Rons since I don't have any donor harps to source a reed from.)
I'm brand new to harp: as in two weeks. Bought myself a Hohner Silver Star to see if I wanted to take on the instrument. What a piece of junk. I didn't realise this until I upgraded to a Special 20. So much less effort, no leakage, better tone... the whole thing was light years away from the SS. For $40 more.
Silver Stars and Bluesbands should be illegal, what a waste of time, how many people would have tried that and quit the instrument? Hohner shouldn't go that low.
I love my Hohner Marine Band 1896s. Yes, it’s wood but it is the Swiss Army knife of harps. The one I will never buy again are Hohner Blues. I’ve owned many and they were all the same. Uncomfortable wood and hard to draw.
Marine band 1896 and blues harp are unfinished harmonics. I sanded the wooden comb (mahogany) to blues harp and varnished. I also sanded the metal edges and now it's another harmonica much easier to use. It's nice to do something with the musical instrument, you understand it better
I don't mind da screws cuz 1897 (and also an easy fix to put some on) and I never had swelling issues. I don't really like the back being that open though, side vents, or that the scales smush easily should u decide to pocket one. So I went with the Bluesharp instead. Love it.
I had high expectations for my first Seydel - a Blues Session Standard in Low E. No bending of notes AT ALL. (and they call it a "Blues" harmonica?) Both reeds on hole #10 were wonky, and the highest reed was flat. Not good out of the box. Unscrewed the covers to have a peek - 3 of the 8 reed plate screws were missing. I wrote to them about the problems - never even got a reply. My conclusion? - screw Seydel. Too many other options out there. And its a shame too, because it felt good in my hands and had good tone.
I can bend a session standard Low E, technique is key on the harmonica and Jonah has very little so you can't really trust is opinion it would be like trusting me to buy a formula 1
@@harmonica_guru I don't have much technique either. In fact, I'm mainly a guitar player, I play harp as a second instrument. But I'm speaking from first hand experience, not somebody else's opinion. This is my opinion. I can bend notes on a Low D and a Low C from Lee Oskar, and a Low F from Easttop, and pretty much all other keys of other brands of harps. I like Harmo-Polar harmonicas a lot. As I said, just too many better options available, and some of them (Easttop) are 1/4 the price of Seydel. The Seydel harp I got was a poorly crafted and difficult to play instrument, and their "customer service" is non existent. If you like Seydel harps, you can have them.
@@harmonica_guru Made in China by Easttop and (allegedly) inspected / tuned by Harmo in USA. I tried the equivalent harps sold by Easttop under their own name, and while they are okay, I like the feel (and look) of the white enamel painted Polars. And I admit, the Polar harps do sound better. But for about 1/2 to 1/3 the price, the Easttop version is good. And the Easttop Marine-Band clones are excellent.
In this video you tell us that the seydel session steel is not good. In another video of you"my ten favourite harmonicas" you tell us that it is a very good harp. What should i believe? I have a seydel session steel and i like it, but i must say that i am a beginner in playing harmonica and maybe my opinion is not so important.
First, I have an updated top 10 video where I don't include it. After time and trying a few, I just don't like them. They are reliable enough to perform with but they function poorly in comparison to other harps at their price.
Ive played harp for over 50 years. Ive played most major brands. For someone to say the Session Steel is not a good harp If you don't like the shape its one thing. It happens to be my favorite shape . To say they are unresponsive is just total bs. I currently have 6 of them and working on ger a full set. They are the best sounding and most responsive f all I have tried. Definitely better than any of the junk hohner has ever put out.
I wholeheartedly agree with your inclusion of the original Marine Band. I don't like wooden combs due to my sensory sensitivities (so that's out of the question for me), they have nails which make it hard to disassemble, and they aren't tuned the way I want them to be. Also every example I've heard of a Marine Band being played, it sounds like a dying duck even when tongue blocked. I pretty much prefer the original Hohner Golden Melody as it's everything I want in a harmonica: a plastic combed harp with an ergonomic design that's easy to disassemble and reassemble due to it having screws and it's Equal Temperment tuned which makes playing the bluesy Terry McMillan-style licks work in my favor.
I really wanted one of those GM’s. Now they redesigned them and I’m not seeing much positive about the redesign. I kind of wish they had just stuck with the original. I’m assuming yours are? Guess I’ll have no choice. I’m sure I’ll still like it. It’ll work!
All brands will eventually have a reed go out of tune. That's just the nature of metal vibrating over long periods of time. Even Boeing 747's wings become weaker over time due to the flexing over 1000's of hours. Same holds true with reeds that flex micrometers over time. That's just the nature of the beast.
Hey, Jonah! Great video. My first set of harmonica was the infamous Fender Blues Deluxe--pure junk after playing for a few months. Next worse--Marine Band Classic--spend more money and get the Deluxe. Seydels--I love the sound, but if you have a beard those suckers will yank out your beard hairs by the root. Also, the Seydel Lightening literally cut my tongue with its pure stainless steel comb because I tongue block. My favorites--Yonberg (because it is super easy to take apart and no chance of it yanking out my beard hairs because of the design) and the Arkia Signature--which makes bends, overdraws and overblows so easy. Also, the best overall harmonica for the price, size, etc., is the Kongsheng Baby Fats. I love those little suckers! Cheers.
Gone are the days when my lips bled from playing my Marine Band too long. I remember when my harmonica friends and I discovered the NEW Golden Melody. I do like the Seydel session steel. I can get overblows on the Torpedo on 5 & 6. That’s one more than I can get on other harps.
I just think steel reeds are more rigid on both inhales and exhales for both single notes and chords compared to brass ones. Brass feels more fluid to me. I have no scientific data to back this up just personal experience.
@@harmonica_guru Ok if that is how you feel. I did get the HarpTrainer from you. Over the past 20 years, I just found brass reeds to be more loose and easier to play while steel reeds seem to me as very stiff on bends especially. This is where we part.
Best harp for me is the Marine Band 1896 modified to have screws instead of nails, because the comb has the harder squared-off edges and angles that I can get my tongue into, much more satisfying than a bland shiny rounded comb which has no angles and is too smooth and blunt.
I personally won't get a golden melody again. I know people love it, and I wanted to love it because I want some harps with that tuning, but I just hate the feel of it both in my hands and in my mouth. Maybe because I have huge hands and the golden melody feels tiny like it will slip away from my grip. Many people say the shape of the golden melody makes it comfortable for them to hold, but I find it to be exactly the opposite in my case. I prefer the suzuki olive for a nice equal temp tuning
Hohner marine band 1896 is the harmonica I would buy again and again, if necessary! 😎
Went through a lot of harmonicas when I found the G.M. that was the one for me got a full set, did want a low F . The new G.M. is not for me. I do have a low F Seydel Session Steel It took a lot of work to make it play with ease .Had one in the key of A it was so unplayable and air leaking all the other harps you mention I had the same experience.😎
I'd love to get an arkia, but they never seem to be selling them when I check 😅
Wholly claps! Is Hohner still making a Marine Band with cover plate nails?!? Oy.
I have to disagree with you, Jonah, on the Seydel Session Steel. I didn't like it at first but once the steel reeds were broke in after about a month, it responded a lot better and it played louder. Now, the Session Steel is one of my go-to harps. I just wanted to give my 2 cents on it. Thanks for your great UA-cam channel. I like it a lot.
Play what you like brother! What I've found in my brief time in the harmonica world is that everyone swears by different brands and models of harps. We just gotta find what suits us personally I guess.
Harmonica reeds do not break-in… the player gets used to the nuances of each harp, as they are all different.
I agree,,,,at 1st didn't like em but once it's broke in plays great
@@norfolknwhey4787 maybe, but I have to disagree with your statement, at least regarding steel reeds. Steel reeds do have a break-in period, and they also need to be warm (room temp-ish)to play well. the Session’s problem, imo, is the way too delicate comb. Replace it with a Blue Moon solid cordian comb, and you got a really nice harp.
Session steel , immediately blew out a reed,also didnt like the feel, marine bands seem to sound the best but not terribly durable also, as expensive as they are I would like them to last much longer. Lee Oskar last the longer but are not the most responsive, Golden Melodys are fun , responsive but also don't have a very long lifespan. It's been my experience that once a reed flattens you can retune it but it won't last for long. If Horner would make individual screw in reed replacements then I would be happy with them. It's hard for me to justify $100 dollars for a harp when that is about what a gig pays when they used to be $6 and you would get $100. Especially when even when trying to take it easy you still blow them out. Suzuki seem to last but that might be that I tend not to play them on account of their shrill tone.I still have not found an affordable, long lasting option that is really responsive and you can get good fat tone without blowing them out, please help.
Yes… easttop 008k blues harmonica
Have to say i bought a Seydel Steel in A as an emergency 3 years ago , I had a gig coming up and my usual Hohner Blues Harp had gone badly out of tune - i think a reed had broken. The Seydel is still going, still sounding good. I've played Hohner, Lee Oskar, Dannecker, Brendan Power all good harps but the Seydel is as good as any of them. Well that's my experience!😃
Seydel is the best in my experience 👍
Hohners are good harps,but the harps and replacement parts are way overpriced IMHO. I love the feel of my (one) Seydel, but I agree 100%. They are alittle harder to play and not as responsive as many others. I won't get another one. I still stand by Eastops, although I am not affiliated with them in any way. They have a rich tone, are bendable and responsive , and are affordable.
I bought a Marine Band earlier this month to start learning and see if I'd be interested in it. I find the lower two reeds to be really poor, I thought it was my technique at first but it's just the harmonica. I'm about to oder two East tops; they seem like the best value for an intermediate or beginner-level harmonica. I'm really enjoying playing though. I've played guitar, bass, piano/keys, drums, and violin for 20 years so I'm thankfully learning fairly quickly. My biggest issue right now is with trills, I practice them slowly but I can't seem to get them fast and clean like I want to.
We all have preferences. I played quite a few, starting with Hohners when they were $5 each. I have a full collection of Lee Oskars and they last longer than others, are louder than others, and don't pull my mustache. When I was playing every week with bands, the Hohners would last 1 month, the Lee Oskars 6 months... anyway I love the LO's. Maybe try a different brand someday.
Circa 1968, I splurged on a Hohner "Blues Harp," first gen, around $7.50, LOL. The wood was darker, and though it swelled, I whittled the comb to spare the lip abrasion, held it together with dental floss when the pins fell out, and then stuck it away once plastic Special 20s saved the day; no soaking, etc. Last year I resurrected the BH, bought new Mband Deluxe cover plates, and floated a newish MBand comb in Watco Butcher Block Oil - an alkyd, which fully soaked in. Drained the excess, repeated over three or four days, then air-dried for a couple weeks. Alkyds dry hard, and non-toxic, giving a perfect combo of wood and impermeable seal like plastic. Original plates installed and after reed tuning, it plays better than ever, but mostly keep it as my heirloom trophy.
Go-to harps today, Rockets all the way. Either cover style is fine.
I have only been playing Harmonica for three years but in that time I have managed to own 21 Harmonicas. The only ones I have had trouble with are the Marine Band Crossover and the Marine Band deluxe both of which had teeth that swelled and broke after a few months. Both the Special 20 and the Rocket sound and play at least as good and these are the Harps I will be sticking with in the future. Wooden combs seem to be aimed at the purist snobs and not the players who are looking for the best sound and reliability.
The Special 20 and Rockets are awesome. I think some people think the combs are cheap plastic. The ABS plastic is high quality plastic with a bit of high grade rubber mixed in I believe? I researched what ABS plastic was! The SP20 is a great instrument for sure!
@@allenhawker3911ABS despite its appearance is no doubt a great and sturdy type of plastic! Even legos use them, so they're pretty much some of the best in the industry afaik
@@sheriffsatori Acrylonitrile butadiene styrene. There are 3 plastics (polymers) in ABS
Lee Os. Got one from Amazon and seriously thought I’d bought a fake or a toy. Really questioned it. Light weight. Shrill and not great feel in the mouth. Too deep. Rubbish. Sorry Lee O fans. I’m Rocket Girl for a reason 🚀👩🏻
I hear ya. I gave up on Lee Oskars over a decade ago. imo, leaky. I’m a Seydel fellah, but I like the Rocket Amp.
🚀 all the way
I just bought another Lee Oscar from my music store here in Nashville and I swear it is not the same.
Same. Just call me Rocketman.
I have bought two Lee Oscar’s lately, both have multiple leaky/problematic reeds. I had to mallet the reed rivet to fix the leak. And BTW they sound kinda shrill. Seydel 1847 series is VERY nice - the best I’ve played so far. On the cheaper side, Hohner Special 20s are quite nice and fun (the only thing - the brass reeds are more flexible than seydel’s stainless steel reeds, so it can be a little hard to precisely control the 3 draw bend)
Once you learn how to do overblows the Torpedo will work well, it will not teach you how to make them
I bought a Hohner Hot Metal from the store. Leaky, annoying, terrible sounding.
Jonah, The Session Steel is actually a good harp - but with a shitty comb. With a Blue Moon acrylic or cordian comb, and some very minor tweaking of the reeds, I really like the Sessions. But you are right about out of the box playability. If you’re willing to at least remove the cover plates and adjust the reed gap, you’ll end up with a nice harp. I don’t get why the Quality Control on the Session is not at the 1847 level.
…I just don’t get those metal combed harps. Why?
i find the marine bad way way toosharp in the mouth esp when i play boogie woogie 8/8 fast really really hurt the lips cant believe any hohner maker ever plays one to know how sharp the egdes are in the mouth
secondlly the lee oscars with the numbers stamped on the back plate rip into your lips beccause they are raised above the level of the backplate and who can read numbers when the harp is in your mouth !
great video cheers barry new zealand
Harmonicas I will never buy again:
-Lee Oskars, they are just inferior to the competition in my view, so not going to try a Tombo either. A pity, because they have lots of interesting tunnings.
-Special 20, nothing wrong about them, but I very much prefer a Rocket for the price difference
-Eastopp T008k, sounds good but feels cheap (they are very cheap though, so I might play that if broke)
Harmonicas I tried that I will buy again:
Marine Bands (any of them, yeah I am up for the change screws thingy), Rocket, Suzukis Manji and Hammond.
If not mentioned above I have never tried them so no comment. I have my eyes on Seydel 1847 and Suzuki Promaster and Olive.
That's all folks!!
Hey, you should try the Fender Blues Deville. It's not a bad harp for the price. It plays well. The downside for a new player is that there are no numbers to mark the holes.
I bought a Lee Oscar that has multiple reeds that do not work (without MAJOR airflow). Like you say, once you've tried it, you can't return it. So, $$ out the window. I won't buy another Lee Oscar again! Marine Band and others have been great.
Yes i bought 5 pack session steels. Ohh my gosh worst i ever ever played
I hear you about the Seydel Blues Soloist Pro. The first one I bought was my first Low F harp. I loved it. It played wonderfully right out of the box and still does 5 years later. Consequently I bought several more in other keys. Everyone of them has been leaky, out of tune, etc. I still love the first one, but the quality control of the line in general is just not up to par with Seydel's other lines.
Love my marine band
A lot of older harp players I know swear by the Marine Band Classic, probably because it's similar to the first harmonicas they ever played. Don't get me wrong, the people I've met who play them are phenomenal, but I'm too much of a younghead to get into them. Ever since I moved to Japan, the Suzuki Manji has been my favorite "wooden" comb harmonica.
Personally, I'll never buy another Dabell Noble or Contender. The reason: I didn't find them as responsive as the [Dabell] Story. I have 4 of those in Alt. tunings...and I love how they play and sound!!
Absolutely wrong when it comes to the Seydel session steels.
started of with a 7 box of cheep honers 20 years ago. since then i have used lee osker, then i got a sydel session steel as i had a gig coming up and blew a reed in practice, out of the box i just loved the session steel. have bought 4 more in various keys. but of late have been really liking the konsheng Mars and have bout 3 of them too.
What is your evaluation of EastTop Harmonicas...? They're priced very low and they look good, but are they...? If sharp edges on the cover plates bother you, why not just get some metal files, they come in different different degrees of coarseness and smoothe out the defects until they're comfortable. A $25.00 EastHarp with a little work can become okay for you, eh...?!
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I wont buy again a Fender Blues Deluxe, very bad expirience with set of harps. I have always ask myself: how a brand knowned world wide could put their name on this piece of junk. It's a rip off.
Made in Chinese factory’s and just slap their name in that way they can get buyers on every budget, they are straight trash I bought some for my kids and they were awful, but the fender blues deville’s are not terrible for the money
About fenders.
First I bought in C. With little adjustment, I made it to play good for me.
Next I bought in A and G. But it was mistake. I can't make them play good in second and third holes.
Now I bought Hohner Big River in G, and the difference is big!
HOHNER meisterklasse has become a favorite in terms of maintenance for me.
I can't buy wooden comb harps anymore. They're ridiculously priced and I found with regular use sometimes the partition between holes eventually breaks and leaves 4 holes unusable. (3 Hohner Blues Harps later...)
I have been using some Marine Band harps, but I went with Big River for cost reasons and a plastic comb to avoid the wood becoming brittle.
Bought an inexpensive set of Hohner Piedmont harps in a variety of keys. (Mostly for the case heh)
It was nice to have some of the odd use keys (8 diff keys in set) but they were like blowing thru weightless baskets.
Some value for sure, but as you get better at playing ....you will just deepen your frown as you encounter them.
Thanks for the information. 👍
What is your opinion on the Suzuki Music Bluesmaster 10H D?
I’ve got a set of Fender Blues Deluxe harps and I have to agree. They don’t sound terrible but, especially for bending, you’re really having to fight the instrument, perhaps more so than if it was made with stainless steel reeds.
watched a few of your posts.most of them are pretty useful & I recommend you or Tomlinson to my friends who want to learn. BUT I can't believe you named a marine band as a bad harmonica!!! I been playing em for years same as my dad (he's 88 & STILL playing) come on J anyone can pull a nail out mate!!!!!!
But why should you have to?
Jonah should take lessons from Tomlin
Fender makes better harmonicas
Seydel..no sir, didn't like them.
I picked up a Big River used...dirty, rusted a little, didn't work right. Took apart, cleaned very well, adjusted and.... It is WONDERFUL! Surprised, and very glad.
What's your opinion on the Hohner Rocket Amp and the Hohner Rocket Low?
the rocket is great, very smooth and large holes make it easier for me to play
Yeah I don’t get why Hohner doesn’t change the marine band to use screws off the production line. Very silly. The marine band deluxe is Far superior from what I hear. I also have heard bad things about the Seydel session steel.
I’ll tell ya a harp I didn’t initially like is a Manji M-20. Very airy feeling and isn’t forgiving if your embouchure isn’t great.
After some time and gapping they are great now but not out of the box.
I agree with you 100% on the Marine Band classic.
The Marine Band classic is actually pretty good in the hands of good players, Jonah is a decent amateur I wouldn't;t create a youtube channel with this kind of level
One Harmonica I will not buy again is the Marine band by Honer. I don't like it at all for the same reason as you mentioned in the video.
I started Harmonica playing the blues harps and i think they are a good instruments for the price range
I have a Seydel solist pro have no problem with it. What I won't buy again are Johnson harmonica and any harmonica made in China.
The Seydel Session Steel is all I play now, so yeah, I disagree with your assessment of that particular harp. I am a rather large mammal and I am pretty hard on my harps, but Session Steel holds up extremely well. I liked the Hohner crossover, but at one hundred bucks per harp, it didn’t last as long as a Seydel. Oh, and here’s an easy fix for having a harmonica with a steel comb, Don’t hit yourself in the teeth with it! Thanks for the video.
Mr Fox, this is an excellent video. I agree with you completely. Despite their great reputation, I avoid wood-combed Marine Bands. Also, I avoid Seydel session steel. The steel reeds are less agile. And the Seydel Solist Pro is pure crap. My go-to harps are Kongsheng Bluebirds. Also, not really a fan of Dabell. Their minor key Story harps are good alternative to Lee Oskars but to me, the Noble and Contender are only adequate at best.
I once threw up into a Marine Band following a heavy, greasy breakfast. ☹
Haha seydel blues soloist pro awful harp I contacted the techs for a solution to the 2nd hole specifically which I could not get in tune no matter how much I tried adjusting the reeds they basically said oh well s-d off. I'm fairly new but all my other Harps have been fine. I also have a set of the origins that I'm saving until I can do them justice, different class.
I love the Honer stuff but the edges are so sharp. It cuts my hands and the edges of the cover are kind of sharp.
Are you out of your mind????
Session steels bashed by pros? No
They are decent and waaaay better than SP20
The Solist pro is as good as mb deluxe
And the lightning? Well, it’s of the highest calibre
I guess you know more than Charlie musselwhite eh
Lol
Jonah is an entry-level amateur, Charlie Musselwhite was raving about the Harmo Torpedo I made for him
I agree with almost all of your evaluations, except for the Seydel Lightning. I can understand your complaint, but I have yet to experience it myself and play my Lightning really a lot. So perhaps it is just an anatomical difference -- but I do agree that the high price makes it quite a risk to buy because the buyer could end up having the problem that you experienced. If you have the money for such an expensive harp then the Arkia Signature is an excellent alternative!
Jonah do you have a video on those yonberg (spelling?) harmonicas?
I saw them on Rockin rons website and am intrigued.
I want to try one, but they look like a taller harmonica and harps like that usually hurt me, so I haven’t been able to justify dropping $200 on a harmonica that might not work. I’m sure I will try at some point. I don’t have a review. One of my students in the past had them and really loved them.
I hit my teeth once on a brass Blue Moon comb. I still like the comb, but I am a lot more careful putting it up to my mouth!
I haven't tried a Harmo or the Pure Harp. I wonder if sanding and refinishing the Pure Harp would help. I recommend against getting Fenders. That one in particular I'm not sure about the manufacture of, but several are their models are Easttops and the Easttop equivalents are cheaper. (I did get their Lee Oskar one and one of their Seydel models, but only because they were discontinued and I was able to get them cheaper than the models they were based on.)
I could be wrong, but the Mars shouldn't have nickel in it. I think only the Solist has nickel in the covers. (I just destroyed my Mars trying to retune the 3 blow for Paddy. Waiting on a replacement plate from Rockin Rons since I don't have any donor harps to source a reed from.)
Pure Harp is a great harmonica Jonah is just a beginner player
I'm brand new to harp: as in two weeks. Bought myself a Hohner Silver Star to see if I wanted to take on the instrument. What a piece of junk. I didn't realise this until I upgraded to a Special 20. So much less effort, no leakage, better tone... the whole thing was light years away from the SS. For $40 more.
Silver Stars and Bluesbands should be illegal, what a waste of time, how many people would have tried that and quit the instrument? Hohner shouldn't go that low.
I love my Hohner Marine Band 1896s. Yes, it’s wood but it is the Swiss Army knife of harps. The one I will never buy again are Hohner Blues. I’ve owned many and they were all the same. Uncomfortable wood and hard to draw.
Marine band 1896 and blues harp are unfinished harmonics. I sanded the wooden comb (mahogany) to blues harp and varnished. I also sanded the metal edges and now it's another harmonica much easier to use. It's nice to do something with the musical instrument, you understand it better
I don't mind da screws cuz 1897 (and also an easy fix to put some on) and I never had swelling issues. I don't really like the back being that open though, side vents, or that the scales smush easily should u decide to pocket one. So I went with the Bluesharp instead. Love it.
What does 'da' mean?
I love marine band i wanna buy it again
I also dislike the Marine Band.
What does a premium price look like?
Some harmonicas straight out of the box can be dog's regardless of the make, no two are the same.
Definitely. It’s really hard to compare harmonicas for this reason.
I've got a pure harp , love the sound but find I play my special 20 far more often.
I just got a special 20 a few weeks ago. I always thought they were a beginners harp. It's a great harp! Great sound. Responsive.
not a single note ?????
good video. very helpful.
FINALLY
Very controversial opinion on the MB Classic! (For example, I do not agree 😂) Everyone should try one and make up their own mind!
Bought one in a key I wanted loved it so much I had to buy a new C MB to replace my Lee oskar C
The Pure Harp and Torpedo are great harmonicas this video is junk
Great vid! Crossovers ftw
I had high expectations for my first Seydel - a Blues Session Standard in Low E. No bending of notes AT ALL. (and they call it a "Blues" harmonica?) Both reeds on hole #10 were wonky, and the highest reed was flat. Not good out of the box. Unscrewed the covers to have a peek - 3 of the 8 reed plate screws were missing. I wrote to them about the problems - never even got a reply. My conclusion? - screw Seydel. Too many other options out there. And its a shame too, because it felt good in my hands and had good tone.
I can bend a session standard Low E, technique is key on the harmonica and Jonah has very little so you can't really trust is opinion it would be like trusting me to buy a formula 1
@@harmonica_guru I don't have much technique either. In fact, I'm mainly a guitar player, I play harp as a second instrument. But I'm speaking from first hand experience, not somebody else's opinion. This is my opinion. I can bend notes on a Low D and a Low C from Lee Oskar, and a Low F from Easttop, and pretty much all other keys of other brands of harps. I like Harmo-Polar harmonicas a lot. As I said, just too many better options available, and some of them (Easttop) are 1/4 the price of Seydel. The Seydel harp I got was a poorly crafted and difficult to play instrument, and their "customer service" is non existent. If you like Seydel harps, you can have them.
@@anthonypanneton923 I agree with you on the Polar they are very good!
@@harmonica_guru Made in China by Easttop and (allegedly) inspected / tuned by Harmo in USA. I tried the equivalent harps sold by Easttop under their own name, and while they are okay, I like the feel (and look) of the white enamel painted Polars. And I admit, the Polar harps do sound better. But for about 1/2 to 1/3 the price, the Easttop version is good. And the Easttop Marine-Band clones are excellent.
In this video you tell us that the seydel session steel is not good. In another video of you"my ten favourite harmonicas" you tell us that it is a very good harp. What should i believe? I have a seydel session steel and i like it, but i must say that i am a beginner in playing harmonica and maybe my opinion is not so important.
First, I have an updated top 10 video where I don't include it. After time and trying a few, I just don't like them. They are reliable enough to perform with but they function poorly in comparison to other harps at their price.
Ive played harp for over 50 years. Ive played most major brands. For someone to say the Session Steel is not a good harp If you don't like the shape its one thing. It happens to be my favorite shape . To say they are unresponsive is just total bs. I currently have 6 of them and working on ger a full set. They are the best sounding and most responsive f all I have tried. Definitely better than any of the junk hohner has ever put out.
Jonah is a beginner too
I wholeheartedly agree with your inclusion of the original Marine Band. I don't like wooden combs due to my sensory sensitivities (so that's out of the question for me), they have nails which make it hard to disassemble, and they aren't tuned the way I want them to be. Also every example I've heard of a Marine Band being played, it sounds like a dying duck even when tongue blocked. I pretty much prefer the original Hohner Golden Melody as it's everything I want in a harmonica: a plastic combed harp with an ergonomic design that's easy to disassemble and reassemble due to it having screws and it's Equal Temperment tuned which makes playing the bluesy Terry McMillan-style licks work in my favor.
I really wanted one of those GM’s. Now they redesigned them and I’m not seeing much positive about the redesign. I kind of wish they had just stuck with the original. I’m assuming yours are? Guess I’ll have no choice. I’m sure I’ll still like it. It’ll work!
@@allenhawker3911 Yeah. I own a couple of the original GMs. I've been playing them since 2020.
@@goldenteledy2002Thats good you have the originals.
Every harmonica recording from the 50s and 60s sounds like a dying duck?
I had a Seydel solist pro, this has and was the only harmonica that had a reed go out of tune.
All brands will eventually have a reed go out of tune. That's just the nature of metal vibrating over long periods of time. Even Boeing 747's wings become weaker over time due to the flexing over 1000's of hours. Same holds true with reeds that flex micrometers over time. That's just the nature of the beast.
@@MrSpanky2001 agreed, but not within 6 months and I play straight harp.
I agree about the MB Classic.!
I went MB deluxe.
I am self taught, have played harp offand on for years, your advice I find so helpful, thank you. !!
MB classic is better because the comb on the Deluxe and Crossover is too round and smooth and blunt.
Hey, Jonah! Great video. My first set of harmonica was the infamous Fender Blues Deluxe--pure junk after playing for a few months. Next worse--Marine Band Classic--spend more money and get the Deluxe. Seydels--I love the sound, but if you have a beard those suckers will yank out your beard hairs by the root. Also, the Seydel Lightening literally cut my tongue with its pure stainless steel comb because I tongue block. My favorites--Yonberg (because it is super easy to take apart and no chance of it yanking out my beard hairs because of the design) and the Arkia Signature--which makes bends, overdraws and overblows so easy. Also, the best overall harmonica for the price, size, etc., is the Kongsheng Baby Fats. I love those little suckers! Cheers.
the author of the video is too picky due to the money he has got to spend on different harmonicas 🤫
@terrohood24 Do you have some better suggestions?
What ?
Gone are the days when my lips bled from playing my Marine Band too long. I remember when my harmonica friends and I discovered the NEW Golden Melody. I do like the Seydel session steel. I can get overblows on the Torpedo on 5 & 6. That’s one more than I can get on other harps.
I hate the seydel session steel. Junk
do you even play harmonica?
built like a tank and seem to last forever@@richardpierce7168
Stay away from steel reeds...
Why?
I would say stay away from this channel
I just think steel reeds are more rigid on both inhales and exhales for both single notes and chords compared to brass ones. Brass feels more fluid to me. I have no scientific data to back this up just personal experience.
@@harmonica_guru Ok if that is how you feel. I did get the HarpTrainer from you. Over the past 20 years, I just found brass reeds to be more loose and easier to play while steel reeds seem to me as very stiff on bends especially. This is where we part.
Best harp for me is the Marine Band 1896 modified to have screws instead of nails, because the comb has the harder squared-off edges and angles that I can get my tongue into, much more satisfying than a bland shiny rounded comb which has no angles and is too smooth and blunt.
I personally won't get a golden melody again. I know people love it, and I wanted to love it because I want some harps with that tuning, but I just hate the feel of it both in my hands and in my mouth. Maybe because I have huge hands and the golden melody feels tiny like it will slip away from my grip. Many people say the shape of the golden melody makes it comfortable for them to hold, but I find it to be exactly the opposite in my case. I prefer the suzuki olive for a nice equal temp tuning