RNVG-A "Articulating Ruggedized Night Vision Goggle
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- Опубліковано 28 кві 2023
- I run through the details of the RNVG-A.
I didn’t cover IPD stops in this video. This goggle does not have IPD stops. Although this can be a useful feature, it is unnecessary with articulating goggles.
The reason why is that it is common for your helmet to move especially during dynamic movement. The IPD stops can interfere with proper positioning due to this. By not having the IPD stops set you are able to move the pods where they need to be.
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I didn’t cover IPD stops in this video. This goggle does not have IPD stops.
Although this can be a useful feature, and some users prefer a goggle with them, it is honestly unnecessary with articulating goggles and can actually be hindrance in some situations.
The reason why is that it is common for your helmet to move especially during dynamic movement. The IPD stops can interfere with proper positioning due to this. By not having the IPD stops set you are able to move the pods where they need to be. Whereas
Lol by this logic, non-articulating goggles can interfere with proper positioning.
@@tacticallurk6959 Yes and no. A few things come into play that affect how well an articulating goggle IPD system works.
How reliable it remains in position, helmet fit & adjustment, and the activity you’re doing.
The #1 thing that affects it is helmet fit & adjustment. The majority of folks I see run their helmet on the loose side for comfort. This will cause your helmet to move and in turn change your IPD.
I haven’t found this to be as much of an issue with fixed bridge goggles. The reason is that you’re bringing the device down to your eyes as one unit and you will naturally bring into the correct position with your hand likely without realizing that you’re moving it into position.
Another thing is that due to the nature of how a fixed bridge goggle stows with more weight forward, most folks will have the helmet chinstrap engaged and the helmet tightened up.
Is this just a housing sold as is or this a full system sold with set of tubes?
Hey Will! I'm glad to see these are close to available, hopefully that means the RNVG-VG's are too, I'm still waiting on the set I ordered through you while I was in Antarctica, if you remember that. Love the channel and your customer service!
Hey buddy! I remember. AB said the RNVG-VG is about a month behind the RNVG-A. Plan for about another month or so on the VG.
great review. Seemed very honest about the pros and cons of some features.
Great video! I was trying to decide between the PVS-31A, DTNVS, and the RNVG-A, but the information you presented swayed me towards this. I just ordered my set and I can't wait to use it when I get back from this deployment!
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Awesome vid! Been waiting for your content!
Thank you sir 🙏🏼
Great Review! Cant wait for these to be available. We all know though that they'll probably introduce this system with a pano feature down the road at somepoint. I could be wrong but it wouldnt surprise me.
I wouldn’t expect it since the RPNVG already exists
I got mine with the Cadex Defense mount since the G24 was out of stock, and it works great. It has more than enough extension to clear the helmet.
Cadex makes great gear 👍🏼
Just finished the vid, awesome explanation and display of this product. Did i miss any discussion on ipd stops? Did not appear to have this feature from what I saw.
Ty for the review.
Ah, I did miss that. I must’ve missed it on the edit. I’ll add that info in the description. Thanks for pointing that out 👍🏼
Excellent review as always Will! When can we see a review on the new goggle from VShott with the 50 degree field of view?
Thank you sir 🙏🏼
Someone else is still doing their portion of our T&E. I don’t have an ETA but it will be after I finish or towards the end of my T&E.
Is it just me or should gain control and lemo port be standard on EVERY modern NVG? I think they should be. Very bummed my DTNVS's don't have either.
They’d both be welcome features. It’s easier for the mfg’s to use 10160 format tubes which is why you don’t see them
Manual gain should absolutely be an option.
@Gregory Himschoot it's literally not an option on many modern tubes.
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION Why do you say manual gain is less important on duals than a mono?
@@ericquintana1900 because both eyes are aided looking through night vision. With a monocular, gain control is a requirement IMHO because if your aided eye is at max gain then your brain cannot incorporate the image from your unaided eye unless the ambient light is very high. By lowering the gain your brain can use both images together.
With that said, a dual tube goggle with gain control can be very useful for users who are light sensitive since they can lower the brightness to a more comfortable level.
Consider that the professional users who spend the most time continually under nods are aviators and aviation systems do not use gain control.
Seems like a great set-up, but a Couple minor Questions before I make my final purchase decision:
Q1: Does the Limo port have a cover if not used w/ external battery pack? (...have not seen one pictured, ....anywhere)
Q2: The magnet on/off - If the magnets don't touch the housing, it stays off, ...right? ....if you need to adjust the eye width /separation is there any leeway or play, or is it all the way 'closed' to use only?
Thank YOU!!
There isn’t a cover for the port. I wouldn’t worry about, most goggles that have a horizontal port don’t use them. The port on the RNVG-A is fairly protected where it’s located.
Correct, when the pods are articulated outwards the system cannot turn itself back on. There is plenty of adjustment for IPD without it affecting power via the magnets.
Does the device also auto turn off when flipped up on the mount as well or is it only individual pod shut off when pushed out?
It doesn’t have auto off flip up. The only auto-off feature is in the pods.
You mentioned that you prefer fixed bridge over articulating, what are your reasons for that? As most people prefer articulating
I do like articulating goggles and it’s a cool feature but I either want both eyes under nods or neither under nods. So moving one up while using the other I never do that. I don’t wear my helmet with nods unless I’m using them. Articulating is a very important feature for those users who will be wearing them the helmet for long periods but not under nods the entire time. They’re definitely more comfortable than a fixed bridge sticking out while stowed.
I prefer the TNVC Artemis BNVG in Anvis/ball detent format. The goggle automatically turns off when I stow it and turns on when I deploy it dead reliably with zero worry that it’s turned on when I stow it. The pivot point puts the goggle in a good position vs a dovetail fixed bridge goggle. If I don’t want to stow it and want to use eyeballs I just turn off the battery pack and look under the pods. I might have to tilt the helmet up a little. I find that works for me best.
Are you the sales manager by chance? If so… I want to say thank you for the correspondence regarding the PBM-A and helping me figure out what could be happening and why.
Yessir that’s me. You’re welcome 👍🏼
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION right on. I sent a follow up email. Did want to ask for your thoughts between the NPBM vs the Integrated Components D-14. Granted there’s a steep price difference but I do like the idea you pointed out in a video that if a buddy has a compatible mount, it can detach one of the 14’s and let him use it.
Will, what do you think of the Pano version of the RNVG, or “RPNVG” ? Looks cool I just wanna see some detailed videos and nothing yet from the usual suspects.
I had one for a week or so after shot show but didn’t have time to make a video. It’s a cool goggle but I’m honestly not a big fan of the panning feature. I think the RNVG-A will have more value for the majority of folks. Most will enjoy articulating goggles more the a panning one IMHO
If u had to pick between these and the RPNVG, which would u pick?
Does that housing auto-gate? I know there’s no manual gain, but the tubes still protect themselves right?
Autogating is a feature of the image tubes. Most tubes sold by dealers today have autogating. TNVC only sells autogated tubes
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION gotcha, wasn’t sure where the auto-gating was occurring. I assumed they look for excessive cathode current or something and clamp that down. I had assumed the tube it self doesn’t have much in the way of smarts inside and that all the HV bias, gating etc were functions of the external electronics.
More videos!
I m new to NV.. are all the variants of RNVGs made with PVS 14 tubes? Is the difference in the housing or the tubes themselves also?
No. The only RNVG variant that uses the same tubes that are are used inside a PVS-14 (properly built) is the RNVG-VG. The -VG features manual gain control like a PVS-14.
The PVS-14 uses the 11769 tube format (has a gain control ribbon cable).
The other RNVG variants do not have manual gain control and they use 10160 format tubes. These tubes do not have a ribbon cable.
There are caveats because some builders are known to reformat tubes and 10160 tubes can be used inside manual gain control housings.
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION thank you for explaining this
Did the TNVC Artemis come camouflage? And if you had it done where'd you send it?
The Artemis comes standard in FDE. You can also buy Nocorium Vinyl wraps if you want multicam etc
@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION I ordered the RNVG-A multicam wrap from TNVC when I ordered a couple steiner tor mini I.R. it should all be getting delivered tomorrow
Any plans for selling just the housings for DIYers
We will have the housings available for sale. We haven’t received them but should be in ETA 2-4 weeks
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION Thanks! 👍
so how is this different from Dual Tube systems?
The RNVG-A is a dual tube system but since you capitalized it, perhaps you’re referring to the Act in Black DTNVS? If so, the major differences are:
RNVG-A is made of 7075 aluminum.
DTNVS is made of fiber reinforced polycarbonate.
RNVG-A has a LEMO port for using a remote battery pack.
DTNVS does not have any port. A 3rd party battery adapter plug product is available.
RNVG-A does not have IPD stops.
DTNVS has an IPD stop kit that can be added (it’s an option, not included).
RNVG-A’s lanyard/bungee loops are located on each pod.
DTNVS’ lanyard loops are located on the bridge.
RNVG-A uses push buttons.
DTNVS uses a single knob.
RNVG-A does not auto shutoff when stowed/flipped up using the mount.
DTNVS auto shuts off when stowed.
RNVG-A is about 20oz.
DTNVS is about 18oz.
RNVG-A is made in the USA.
DTNVS is made in Europe.
There are subtle differences in other areas and differences in how operation etc. but these are the most significant differences.
Is there a way to stop them from turning on when you stowe them at full articulation on top of the helmet?
It seems like the magnet is sensing the steel in the G 24.
Somethings not right if it’s turning on when fully articulated. The pods are nowhere near the mount 🤷♂️
I’d get with the vendor you got them from about it
If you don't peel them all the way its fine but its something with the magnet sensor. I was hoping somebody else with a set had worked out a solution. Last thing you want is to open them too far and be burning battery while they're stowed
@@jalowery1246 no, haven’t come across that myself
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION I figured it out. There's magnets embedded in the dovetail side of the G24. No idea why they're there but if you hold a piece of steel near either of the squeeze tabs used to slide the nods in and out you'll notice the magnetic pull. Wierd...🤔
good video, although the first quarter of the video was spent going over the pros of articulaution where i feel a lot of people already know this stuff, still VERY good video!
There are always people new to something. Instructing/teaching/informing is about understanding that.
Were is your shop???
TNVC HQ is in Southern California
As an owner of the RNVG, I've been really curious about this unit. I was wondering what the cost would be to swap my current TNVC RNVG guts over.. I might have to jump to these..
Give me a buzz Monday and I’ll run through it. Basically cost of the housing plus some labor and shipping. I think you’ll really love the new housing 👍🏼
Might have to do this as well…
Has anybody dealt with the rayvn rail for the PVS14 and FLIR Breach?
Their website just seems real sketchy…
I haven’t but I think Nick @ TFB did a post about it
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION right on, thanks bro. (Love the channel by the way. 😄👍)
@@DieselDoktor thank you sir 🙏🏼
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION you’re very welcome. The video you did on the FLIR/PVS14 got me convinced that I needed that in my life lol.
Went ahead and ordered the rayvn rail to see what it’s all about. Haven’t been able to find almost ANY reviews on them. But I just can’t say no at that price lol
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Update:
just got the rayvn rail tonight, and absolutely love it!
I can get the images to mesh close up (within about 10ft) but am having trouble getting them to merge further out.
It’s usable, but not perfect. Haven’t run through *all* of the settings and adjustments I can yet. But it’s close enough for under $400. 😄👍
Why do you prefer the RNVG over these?
The goggle I personally prefer is the Artemis in ANVS configuration. I’m a fan of the ANVS interface for its auto on/off function when stowed. I also prefer a fixed bridge for its reliable IPD spacing whenever I flip it down. I run it farther from me eyes which allows me to see under it just fine if I need to.
With that said, articulating goggles are preferred by the majority of users, and I also like them.
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION well said, thanks for taking the time to reply
@@Grizzly_Bear2018 🤙🏼
Hi 👋
2k$ for a housing without ipd stops and still integrate the useless IR. No thanks 😂
Would you get the pvs31A vs RNVG-VG?
This is great question! They have different features and price points but mainly the price point is what will make most folks decide. The RNVG-A is $2,800-$3,700 less expensive (depending on tubes and housing color).
Another thing is the warranty. The standard warranty on the 31A is 1 year from L3Harris and this is what most vendors offer. At TNVC we extend it with another 5 years. This is for tubes and everything. The RNVG-A has Limited Lifetime Warranty which means 10 years for the tubes and Lifetime for everything else (housing, lenses).
If price is no issue then the BNVD/31A has manual gain control and includes the battery pack. The fixed rear diopters IMHO are a plus for a single user as long as the diopters are correct for them. It’s nice not ever have to mess with them.
31As have a bad rap IMHO. We’ve sold a ton of them (seriously, A LOt) and we’ve had only a couple come back for repair due to being broken.
With that said, the RNVG-A will undoubtedly be stronger, so if that’s what you’re wanting is as bombproof as possible then RNVG-A is the way to go. 🤙🏼
I think a closer comparison would be the ARNVG vs PVS31A. In that case, its a toss between variable gain and super rugged. Shame there isn’t currently such an option because that with a properly placed LEMO port would be the perfect dual tube set up.