What are trigger points in the pelvic floor and why are they important?
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
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Information contained within these videos is provided to inform you of potential therapies available, and to improve the general awareness of pelvic health physiotherapy. It is not intended to be a replacement for medical advice, and I advise you to have a full assessment with a qualified medical professional as well as seeing a pelvic health physio. Please do not try any techniques without seeing a professional first to make sure that treatment is appropriate to your needs.
What a brilliantly explained video. I came here because of my own pelvic pain, but am also thinking about applying for a physio degree, definitely coming back here!
Wow. I'm going to my first pelvic floor assessment next week. I hope I get a good and knowledgeable one like yourself. 🙏
Hey Jilly. Thanks for the video. Loved it and sharing it.
Thanks Anthony!
Love this! Thank you!
Great discussion on your work and experiences up to this video!
Any new thoughts/discoveries?
Love the openness and progression and dedication.
I’m a hands on practitioner, and the ongoing study of how best to encourage a release, balancing, and restoring one’s good energy occupies me.
I noticed early on that stress gets in the way of resolving issues.
Hence the re-activation of trigger points.
Acknowledge the source/s of the stress, and that may be a release.
The bodies good energy tends to run from pain, so making it safe for the good energy to reintegrate can help in a more lasting and healing outcome.
Thanks for your caring and sharing!
Wow amazing video!
T.m.s stres I've had pelvic pain 25 years now got it in my shoulders armpits I keep stretching but as least had OCD anxiety so keeping it going all started with broken cocyx.great work
Amazing video, Jilly! Thanks! I have been dealing with pelvic floor pain for about 10 months now and i keep trying to understand my situation. You shed light on trigger points as i am trying to explain it to my wife. Knowing this information will help us deal with it better! Thanks again and greetings from Rhode Island, USA.
Thanks Jose and all the best with your recovery.
Finding a person that does these is the challenge.
If you're in the UK you can search for one local to you here: www.squeezyapp.com/directory/ And if you're anywhere else in the world you can find the contact details for your national organisation here: www.wcpt.org/ioptwh/members
In that case, it's really fascinating that these percieved threats(by brain) are specific to each muscle.
I think we can reverse this phenomenon if we can trace how this specific area/ location is formed in each muscle.
Very Good Info.
Thank you!!
Very interesting movie with very good explanations. Considering reduced blood flow/ischemia is somewhat responsible for myofasical pain. Do you think blood dilutaers such as aspirin can further help with treatment?
I have IC however, I don't have pain. Only bladder leakage. How can pelvic floor therapy help with this?
Beautifully explained. My pelvic pain began 2 weeks after catching Delta unvaccinated last year. It was a nightmare. It’s been over 7 months now. My pelvic pain is still the most painful symptom I have left. It made sense when you said poor blood flow to the pelvic area
Are you certain that's from a respiratory virus, though? Idk, but perhaps it's a coincidence it started at the same time you caught Covid.
Fight or flight response how are you now
I’ve been working with trigger points for more than 20 years and mostly getting permanent releases, of course approaching it in a holistic manner. You don’t mention the electro chemical properties of the cells. TP certainly exist at the neuromuscular realm.
What about knots? Thanks
Question for you Jilly Bond: if we're self treating, how do we know how hard to go?
In Dr Wise's book, he mentions the level of discomfort should be:
Internal Trigger Point discomfort - 1/10
External Trigger Point discomfort - 3/10
He says he does it once a day.
In Claire Davis's Trigger Point Therapy Workout, which is mostly
external (minus 1 page on intrapelvis muscles) he says 7/10,
up to 3-6
repetitions a day with 15 deep strokes.
Im really trying to figure out how to optimize this for recovery. Thanks
well she did say in the video that it simply shouldn't hurt at all. I've heard from other therapists (not about pelvic floor specifically) that 4/10 is acceptable for exercising into pain but that manual therapy should feel good, not painful.
Is PSA test a good indicator to test if prostate is really inflamed or not? I heard that if the prostate is inflamed the PSA will rise. Does this apply to prostatitis case? Just want to make sure that I have CPPS not prostatitis. Thank you in advance!
Clarification about halfway through your video. You are saying tension in the body/muscles is normal. Needed to generate forces, movement, etc, but tension myalgia is not, correct?
Trigger points may not exist. But painful palpatory areas do exist. And I’ve discovered a set of hands on procedures that eliminates them as fast as flipping a light switch. It’s really cool.
Are you in UK treating
I get your point about threat and pain but what about tension which causes other problems like urination and defacation issues?
hello. How interesting your videos have been. Looking for improvements or greater improvements for my pain I found you. I had surgery for my stress incontinence, in 2022 it was a TVT sling and since that moment I have suffered from chronic pelvic pain. Would these therapies help my pain? Even if this sling tape is still there? My doctors do not recommend that I remove the sling as they cannot guarantee that the pain will go away. difficult situation I find myself in, while I seek to improve my quality of life. Thank you for reading.
Fabulous as always Jilly. Treating 'TP's" is absolutely fine, how we treat them and how we describe them or deliver information/details on them is central to long term recovery
Can you tell me where the next video you talk about here, my pelvic pain has had me on the floor for the last 6 months even with Pelvic Floor Therapy. I also have the wand and it does nothing tbh. This only hurts during intercourse. No other time. But Im feeling at a loss here. Thank you so much.
Make with 3d marking please
I can't find the myofascial release video.
Did you find it
🥰😇🥰😇#TY SO MUCH
HALLELUJAH!! I'm showing this to all my Mayo Specialists...I've hypothesized about my having Fibromyalgia any why couldn't it cause the same type of neuropathy in that area too since Fibro basically is myofacial autonomic pain due to "crossed wires" in the brain? Answers: The pelvic floor doesn't work that way. ME: 💭...well it cradles my colon AND bladder, the two problems we are investigating, I've got IBS/IBD and have NO SENSATION I NEED TO PEE UNTIL IT'S FULL ON COMING OUT! 🤔 Correct me if I'm wrong (Which I'm not😏) The bladder and the colon/rectum share a common wall thats technically muscle correct!?
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Do you think that the pelvic floor has this many problems because the supporting muscles are faulty? Like if you have a basket 🧺 like the pelvic floor is woven together muscles and then you're pulling on one handle but it's meant to be carried by two and so the fibers are torsioned out of place and they're always working in a way that they were not designed to function. By doing this you will affect the supporting structures like the arteries and the relays for the nerves. Also, since they're out of place and they're grinding against each other, you're going to get longer lasting effects. Some will not immediately go away by say fixing the core muscles and realigning the body.
The leg muscles have something to do with this too as there's a tendon that goes across the pelvis to hold the bones into place.
Women might have it extra bad because they have the womb on top of everything else and their genitalia go in. So it's more weight that needs to be supported by already tired fibers😅
I like your theory but I think it corresponds to a basket 🧺 and the woven effect being out of place. Just think if you go to a chain link fence and you want to do the securing wire and then you pull up on it. All the wires will bend to a degree. Some of them might even touch and rub against one another. If this is a nerve and it's using electricity, it will cause the body to perceive pain. It's an irritant. It's something that needs to be fixed and that's what the body is usually saying you need to do when you're getting a pain signal.
By having them operate I'm not angle. They're not supposed to. You're going to strain them quite easily. 😅 And when I get completely tired out and the various layers can no longer support what's there you'll get distortion😅 just like if you tickle your belly button, the nerves run down to your vagina or to your penis. If you're a male, they're all intertwined from your abdomen to your leg muscles.
Still dont explain where the trigger point are
Have you looked how many who have had OCD before this and hypomobility.
Hi doctor. I need your help I hope you see my text. I have penile pain post ejaculation and bowel movement for 2 years, do you recommend the wand
hey there
Do you recommend the injections and can they cause any long term sexual disfunction?
Most pain is Referred pain !
Is bottoming bad for prostate? I’m gay and I usually bottom. Can bottoming cause damage to the prostate and induce prostatitis?
You’re beautiful wow.
Carry on
Who caares !