I Found Russia's Newest ELECTRIC CAR: Moskvich 3e
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- Опубліковано 6 бер 2023
- I went in search of the Moskvich 3e, the newest Electric car in Russia. Searching for Russi'as Newest ELECTRIC CAR wasn't easy, as the Moskvich car dealerships have only just opened a few days before this video was put together.
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Not ‘modeled on’ This is straight up a rebadged low end Chinese brand JAC. Just like you are a rebadged Australian turned propagandist. Don’t come back mate.
Thank you Russell, great video. You are a bit confused cause
the "excluded features" car is the LADA models row built on the same platform as Renault/Dacia, not the MOSKVITCH, which is new and produced by another factory.
Yeah, first car I ever had in 1998 for 15th birthday was a GMC Jimmy SUV (later Envoy, both now discontinued) that parents bought me. Later I went through a couple of used Japanese sedans, but afterwards got a new Nissan X-Trail (Rogue in US).
Рассел, извини, что донатнул мало, просто я пенсионер 60+, но очень люблю твой канал!😄
@@M_a_b_p Russell the Retail Guy In Russia has No Expertise other than Grocery Stores and Gift Shops. Does not own Car and is OK with living in Ant Hill Apartment with Spartan Furnishings in Outskirts of Moscow.
We in Iraq,in the Sadam era,we used to drive Moskvich,Lada, and zil,maybe not the best-looking cars,but very strong and reliable cars,stay safe mate and good luck with all your vlogs.
Thank you for the kind words. I really appreciate your comment. I am always so shocked at how far my video has reached.
It's still another way to check how things are going there,especially with this crisis. Good luck.
👍❤️
I remember riding a Mosquvitsch felt like riding a tree stump over stoney creek.
you buy cars for the looks or performance?
Russell, that's great. I like you expanding your reviews to cars, buses, apartments etc. No just supermarkets. Go on mate, you are doing a great job 👍
Thanks 👍
Hi is propaganda guy and did videos for stupid fake videos without real loyal followers
is it cold in the basement of the Kremlin?
@@KimoBruddah-ki2oo It's warm everywhere in Russia. Are you freezing at home?
В России везде тепло. А ты дома мерзнешь?
@@Glafira01 he have no gas,so he's definitely freezing
Рассел в 2 раза сильнее любит Россию, чем половина нашего населения..
Респект ❤
Просто этот объективный человек реально оценивает ситуацию и не занимается спекуляциями. Правда, вызывает искреннее уважение👍
Он просто нашёл нишу не очень занятую и пытается на этом заработать.
@@LennyNero2019 Желание заработать честно - это нормально...
Потому что ему есть с чем сравнить. А кто никогда заграницей не был, тот и думает, что там шик да блеск кругом.
@@LennyNero2019 как и все в этой жизни
Thanks for sharing Russell. I’m not a car person either but they look great! 🙏🏻👍🏻
Thanks 👍
Thank you
I'm not a car person either. Walking, cycling, and public transit FTW.
Made in china !!!
Спасибо, Расел
Ты хороший человек
Большое спасибо, вы так любезны сказать это. :)
Thank you
😂
It would be great if you could go to more car dealers to review any other new Russian vehicles, like large SUV or trucks. Russian Truck company KAMAZ has won the Paris to Dakar a record 14 times.
I am a big fan of the UAZ Patriot myself.
They all kind of suck, except for Niva, which was redone by Chevrolet, so it's comparable to maybe the worst, small cheapest US SUV, only for twice the price.
The one they win Dakar with is one of a mind spruced up special model, nothing like the conveyer production one for regular customers.
@@LennyNero2019do other companies win Dakar with conveyer models? May be we can see conveyer models at formula 1 🤔🤦🏼♂️
Это не заводской КАМАЗ, его в другом цехе собирают, но туда никого не пустят, если только на треке посмотреть.
@@lornewazny7152 когда у врага нет правильной информации, он беззубый, продолжай верить своему телевизору
Moskvich was my first car in 1965 years and I have good 👍 memories from it. 🇷🇺🇦🇫
Wow, how neat you had one so long ago.
Unlicensed German OPEL.....
@@nupagadii5834 не бреши, опель был только первый из москвичей доставшийся СССР по репарациям по итогам ВОВ
I had a moskvich 427 (Estate),a right state ! in 1980. I remember going to Unipart with the motto 'We have all parts for every car'.I said 'have you a seal for a clutch slave cylinder'? for a Moskvich. Sharp intake of breath and thats a NO. Scrap yard had six Moskvich's on the heap and i got all six seals ! 5 in my pocket and 50p for the one i showed the scrapman. Great car when it was running right, 1.5 OHC and chain driven ! modelled off the T34 Tank.
It's interesting to see how the markets in Russia is developing after all the effects of geo-political measures have taken place. From your clip, I see that Russia has taken another route in retailing Chinese or China-based vehicles. In my country, Thailand, we have traditionally been a production hub and retail market for Japanese brands. The past 2 years however. Chinese makes like BYD, MG, and GWM have taken their space here with a vengeance on global legendary brands like Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi, Honda, and Isuzu. These guys are feeling thepresence of the new players on the block very clearly. I would love to see how traditional Russian brands are reacting within the Russian market.
Also soon we will see how Russia and China's partnership working I'm sure soon there will be tons of Cninease dealerships and tons of Chinese food can't wait for all thumbs up for everything Chinese on the Russian market I'm all against western junk fake food and west trash cars... Russia will only benefit without western junk tech and fake trash food
@TFactory The West will first build a factory to make its cars, and overnight it will shut down and spread the word about the decline in production in Russia. Just beautiful.
The Chinese alternative is better.
Same in New Zealand. Last 5 years Chinese brands are taking over the market, like Great Wall, MG and recently BYD. The BYD electric car is so successful that the only limiting factor is supply. In the first week BYD had 500 orders for the Atto 3. Now we see them everywhere. If this rate continues the traditional German and Japanese brands will be pushed out of the market before 2030. These traditional brands waited for way too long to shift to electric cars which are taking New Zealand by storm.
Atto 3 is extremely popular in every country it has been released
I live in Thailand and my first car here was Toyota Altis which is a very reliable car made in Thailand. Three years ago we bought MB 350e and even bad roads in Thailand now feel like European roads. Recently my Thai wife decided to buy MG ZS. She was eventually caught on a huge discount. Driving MG is totally uncomfortable and your spinal cord will be destroyed. She won't buy a cheap Chinese car ever again. I wish she could return this car back to MG and buy Peugeot 3008.
The Moskvitch 3 The vehicle is a locally assembled rebadged version of the Sehol X4 by JAC Motors, produced using semi knock-down kits in cooperation with Russian lorry and engine manufacturer Kamaz
Рассел совсем наш стал, голый на морозе!🤝💪
Thank you so much for the video. It is so great to see how the Moskvich evolved from the one I remember growing up. Visually it's a really nice car. I would love to see a test drive. i am glad Russia did not lose a beat and reopened this dealership.
But they are only Chinese garbage machines to which they have changed the logo
@@andreasankara Sounds like you live multiple decades ago. Now days the highest quality production is taking place precisely in China.
That's a Chinese EV with a Moskvich badge. It has nothing to do with Moskvich or Russia otherwise.
Definitely like a look at the KAMAZ trucks - real beasts 👍👍👍
Рассел, первый электромобиль был создан в СССР в 70-х годах XX века. Так что всё новое -это хорошо забытое старое.
«Все старое, снова новое» Похоже, мэр Москвы очень хотел вернуть эти автомобили на дороги и возродить имя марки.
Вот бы ему ещё захотелось возродить ЗиЛ, ЗиМ
Смысл в другом. Пример: Летом в жаркую погоду, вид с Пулковских высот на Питер - купол смога. Я за автомобиль, так как он дает свободу передвижения, но видя смог над городом... я понимаю необходимость электромобилей.
@@user-uu5jj1nt2f а как дети кобальт добывают в африке для батарей видел ?
Т.е. разработки Тесла, а до него других конструкторов, не считаются? Первые электромобили еще до Первой Мировой появились.
Im an amateur car guy. Really loved your energy as a non-car person.
We use to have this cars in former yugoslavia back in 80s. My parents had a Lada 😊.
Also Москвич, you pronounce it without “o” in the middle. MoskVich, not MoskOvich 😊
Simply using a Patriotic name nothing to do with manufacture
@@yfelwulf luckily for them I would like to add
Hahaa, yes , I got Lada too
He has heard the similarly sounding Jewish name, Moskowitz too much.😂
And everyone preferred Zastava (Yugo) to Moskvich. It was a much, much better car.
Thank you, Russell, your smile and cheerfulness make every video so appealing. Way to go!
Great report! Thanks Russell
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks.
Thanks!!! Great report! Very interesting!!!❤️👍
Nice Tour,Thank you Russle🥰
As I understand regarding these Moscvich branded cars...these are simply JAC (Chinese brand) cars rebranded with the Moscvich name...as far as parts and assembly, the only part which is assembled in Russia is the tires, the rest is made/assembled in China
no, all the parts assembly in Russia. Tyres are made in Russia
The tires are Vietnamite
@@andreasankara no kidding...interesting!
Exactly...only the tyres are fitted once the car gets to Russia...
You still underestimate the intelligence of Russians to do anything good for themselves.
Happy to hear the news..
One of my loving countries😍😍😍
Весёлый Рассел с утра)))) 👍🤝
Спасибо, моя жена сказала то же самое, когда мы проснулись этим утром, поэтому всегда удивляюсь, как я 24 часа в сутки 7 дней в неделю. :)
Beautiful car!
from looking at it for the first time i agree.
Launching a new production in less than a year is a great success.
Except it's a Chinese car with a Russian badge.😀
Don't forget they acquired the factory for 2 rubles also, less than 1cent. They did have a good head start, but still to change over the composition is a big deal for sure.
@@anthonyferris8912 This is a good start, maybe you thought it was possible to make a new car in a year under sanctions from Russian components? Everything is ahead. This is already a success.
Maybe you were trying to pass it off as totally Russian car, which it most defiantly is not.
You people will believe anything! I swear you all have brain worms. This is a rebadged Chinese car - Russia probably didn’t even manufacture the badge.
Thanks for the video ! We had a Moskvich in the the 1970's My dad loved it, we hated it !
Great video, Russell. Thumbs Up!
I really appreciate your hardwork in this harsh winter weather and your so honest talks. I really appreciate made in Russia cars and Moscowich, I really appreciate your tour of made in Russia trucks exhibition. Prayers for you and your family, Good luck.
Oh wow I was just going to suggest going to look at cars... My entire lifetime Russia has had some pretty amazing cars. Also the engineering improvement has been amazing. I would like the Lada 4 x 4. Being in the United States I guess I will never have one. Also repairs and parts would be a problem.
It’s not Russian car ,it’s rebranding Chinese electric cars ,they bough them and after put logo Moscvich on it
@@greshnik2705 Source?
@@MargaritaMagdalena Nobody hides this, yes it is.
@@2x2WF I'd like a source please.
@Greshnik according to your logic, the iphone is not an american smartphone, but a chinese one, because it is made by the chinese from components from all over the world and even the sapphire crystal of the iphone is made in Russia.
Looking forward to a test-drive of the Moskvich 3. 😀🚗
You and me both! I am trying to set one up for when i get back to Moscow in a few weeks.
@@TravellingwithRussell That would be splendit. 😀
My father had a Moskvitch car in USSR times. Now it looks really better :) I would like to test a new version of this car. Thanks for the video!
Go to the info resources of Chinese automaker JAC...
It's just another badge engineering trick ...
Communists made plane jane cars, but were honest !
Nowdays bureaucrats make only simulacrums...
Этот "Москвич" на самом деле китаец, поинтересовались бы хоть что это за машина и откуда её привозят. 😁
@@Leo-eh8hm но красивая)))
Those R Chinese SUV's.....
It's quite refreshing when a presenter is so objective in presentation. All the best in your future videos.
oh Russel) yours "Moskooovich" and "kUsno i tochka" astonishing))
It's my Australian accent, i will remove the 3 "O"s for the next video.
@@TravellingwithRussell oh no no, that's nice)
А мне симпатичнее "Кама-1" от Камаза.
Ну думаю, что не всё сразу, хотя для такой большой страны нужен свой автопром - просто необходим.
Наличие отверток и гайковертов еще не делает слесарную мастерскую автопромом
@@kvadik я конечно не специалист в этом вопросе, но насколько я знаю из истории, что некоторые автопромы как раз и начинались со слесарных мастерских.
@@user-iu9bz6pv7t Это допустимо для китайского или индийского автопрома. Российский автопром имеет более глубокие корни, чтобы его позорно подменять отверткой
@@kvadik я не говорю чтобы что-то или кого-то подменять "со старыми корнями", но возможно "родится" что-то ещё из тех же слесарных мастерских или производителей тракторов, но с чего-то начинать надо, ведь те же китайцы и индусы получали советский автопром и использовали его, но они не бились и не бьются в истерика по этому поводу 😁
Ещё ENEVA есть. Прикольная штучка.
Рассел, спасибо, что разместил это. Я живу в Москве, мы всегда критиковали нашего нынешнего мэра, он не москвич, мы, москвичи, всегда были им недовольны. Но то, что он сделал с московскими производствами! Он - молодец! Благодаря ему тысячи людей не остались без работы, он настоял на том, чтобы завод по сборке Renault не закрылся из-за санкций. И работает завод, огромный завод! Я полностью пересмотрела мое отношение к нему.
That is way nicer than I expected!
"Variator" in english is CVT, or continuously variable transmission. Not to be too technical, it's when instead of classical "gears" you have just one that can change its gear ratio. It's usually done by two cones, but you can look all thetechnical stuff yourself, I guess :)
CVT is a Dutch development…patented by van doornes transmissions..
Basically it sucks, makes the car howl like mad. 😁 I have two, one with 'regular' 6 speed automatic, and one CVT.
eCVT IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ANIMAL THAN THE REGULAR CVT
@@LennyNero2019 Many asian manufacturers use CVT, they are popular and well accepted here in Thailand. I have owned new Nissan Almera cvt and now a MG XS auto. Cannot agree with your 'basically it sucks'. The Nissan was a joy to drive over 60,000km and I would rebuy, but we needed the hatch. Yes the MG sounds more like a regular auto but the cvt is not unpleasant.
Yeah you're right on how it works, but mostly they are total crap. Nissan had a series of cvts that were absolutely horrible, had one myself and constantly broken transmission
Moskvich 3e i completely assembled in China as Jac 3 - then after some parts tuning shipped to Russia in the container where they put Moskvich 3e label.
And new price
Interesting video Russell thank you.
Your pronunciation of moskvich is so funny. Love it, even it is wrong. BTW I' m German but grew up in East Germany and learned a basic Russian.
Да, это китайский автомобиль. Но и Жигули ( Лада) это тоже Fiat был в начале. Так что не трагично. Расширят линейку, придумают новые модельки и забудем, что первый Москвич был крупноузловой сборкой. Ну а Рено, Форды, БМВ, Хундай и прочие Мазды, как бы западная автотехника, собирались в России. Как говорится, "вам ехать или шашечки?" Спасибо Рассел. Хороший обзор!
加油俄罗斯！
Только цены явно не для простых россиян, а кровососы из кремля его не купят
Лада, хоть и Фиат, но производилась полностью в СССР, начиная с самых мелких деталей. А тут колеса, да двигатель прикручивают, вот и вся сборка. Позорище.
Надеюсь начнут думать над другими моделями. Эти кроссоверы не дёшевы, согласен.
@@user-tl3lz3fw3g Вы сподвигли меня почитать несколько статей -воспоминаний о первых шагах Автоваза. Узнал много интересного. Вот один небольшой отрывок из воспоминаний бригадира, который в 1970 году работал на заводе привыпуске первых Жигулей.
"На первых порах у итальянцев приходилось закупать довольно значительный объем комплектующих. Производство коробки передач и заднего моста была освоено на Волжском автозаводе позднее. По словам Бахтова, в то время как в Тольятти запускали ВАЗ, в Турине постоянно дежурили несколько советских самолетов, чтобы немедленно доставить всё, в чем дополнительно возникнет нужда."
Спасибо за видео 👍
Hey Russell, thanks for the video. I’m sure you had that large suitcase of cash. Just waiting to be deposited for your new ride lol.
Another nice vid Rusty. Good to hear an Aussie voice!
You meant to say "Chinese cars re-branded with a Moskvitch Label and sold to Russians for double what the original cars sell for in China"?
Exato.
The original version of this EV car comes from JAC E40X(Chinese Auto Company)
Very good presentation and very good starting for Moskovich
Нифигасее )))
Рассел молодец !!
Ahh Australia is so far behind when it comes to... Everything!!! This is really cool to see mate, thanks for sharing. I reckon the cars are alright 👍
Australia still has freedom of speech. Safe windows for all political opinions.
Yeah, we could rebadge a cheap Chinese car and try to convince people it was Australian but you know what.....
So you like the 40th ranked Chinese car Brand that costs more than a Tesla is in Australia?
:-):-):-)
@@worer850 that's the funniest joke I've read today
Шикарный москвич, я удивился даже, какой он годный
Там от москвича только имя. Все остальное китайское. Но местные схавают эту басню.
@@user-ni8rm6bt2y да пофиг, выглядит круто
@@kotolampa на все 26 тысяч долларов.
Жаль, на практике зиму не переживает. Все же в Китае погода более щадящая
Да, интересное видео, как будто сам все пощупал, спасибо
Ну ваааааще 🤗
Мы его ещё не видели, а Рассел тут как тут
I would love to see a test drive from someone who 'isn't' a car guy and get a review of an electric vehicle from the perspective of an everyday person on the street. Thankyou!
Well, soviet VAZ also started from copying FIAT. Hope in 2-3 years we will get a car with more localization
It was not a copy, it was a localized Fiat 124 with full support from FIAT. Then that car did stick around for far too long! But people kept buying it..
Nice video, covered all aspects...
Ещё 20 раз напишите что это китайский автомобиль!!Вечно недовольны чем-то.
Кажется, я никогда не смогу победить, независимо от видео. Ручка, которой вы подписываете документы на право собственности, была российского производства. :) :)
Согласен 👍....живу в Германии купил мацду тоже много чего китайское......так же и другие модели.......люди вечно чем то недовольны.....👍
Сейчас всё Китайское. Это не значит плохо. Китайцы научились делать всё не хуже западников, а где-то и в чем-то даже получше. Уж получше всяких жигуль который тоже был сделан/скопирован на базе иностранного автоконцерна, а именно Фиат.
@@el.padre. согласен 👍
Сейчас вся Европа будет в Америки производиться, заводы туда переезжают. Сами понимаете нехватка энергоресурсов.
Здоровья Рассел) и всем Австралийцам)
Wow 👏🏾. Love 💘 😍 it. Russia 🇷🇺 keeps on impressing each day. Keep going. With love 💘 and respect from Mozambique 🇲🇿.
7:00 red suv looks amazing, I would definitely purchase it
You have done very well. Videos like these bring real peace. Show the humanity, potentials and attractiveness of the country.
I have had two new vehicles. One was a small truck and the other a small compact. Glad to hear that they had an automatic car.
How are you doing Asian Daughter
Hello, a wonderful, clever Russell. I am glad to see you again. I see that you love my Russia too.
Thank you very much. And Good Luck !!!
He will need it
Woo Great one guys 👍 👍👍👏👏👏✌✌✌.
Thanks.
Russell, the cars are made in China and rebadged in Russia. They sell for twice as much in Russia then in China.
They will be a bit cheaper.. because Russia will made a bit of basic production next year
the car dealer is Russian company who determined the car price
CVT = Continuosly Variable Transmission. It's an automatic transmission that relies on two pulleys connected to a steel belt or chain. The pulleys change ratios (one side bigger, the other side smaller, and vice versa) when the vehicle accelerates and picks up speed.
Nice googling skills.
Interesting. Thanks. Let's see more of these vehicles. Actually cheap considering prices in Europe.
Forecast. In the current conditions of sanctions pressure, Russia will not chase the world's best car manufacturers. Russia will "jump over" this stage and begin mass production of electric vehicles. It is in this area that Russia has a chance to reach high indicators both in terms of quantity and quality of products.
This car is all-Chinese parts assembled in Russia. With non-export features, incl. those related to safety.
@@99solutionsit10 Why are you writing about this, Captain Obvious?
Рассел одевайся теплей, а то осмелел, не лето же.
Это была только первая внешняя часть, я вошел, снял куртку, снял несколько минут и вернулся внутрь. Извини.
Great video. Well done!
Thank you so much.
Nicely done👍🍻
Nice car ❤.... love from 🇮🇳
but this car literally built in china by JAC (Sehoy E40X if be accurate), then disassembled, shipped by train to russia, where it then reassembled. original sehoy even cheaper that it re-baged version.
thanks for video
No worries at all !! :)))
Great video!
These look really familiar, aren't these JAC cars?
Edit: Turns out Moskovich produces rebadged cars from JAC motors, no wonder they look so similar to Sehol X4. Jiayou Russia!
Yes
You're right.But they promised that in the future they would produce our machines (designed in Russia)
@@user-ds1rh7yc4j of course and you believe that. I’ll bet you what ever amount you want in USD that these models of car will not be built in russia in the next 12 months. Let’s go we can escrow!
You didn't even watch the video, did you?
7:45
@ufo_ninja I might have to take you up on that bet, i have a friend who's worked in the factory for the last 4 years. But then it would be insider secrets.
Рассел тебя только,что по НТВ показали!)💪👍
Только вы столько знаете о России,о чём я не слышал,вы большой молодец💚
I hope you get to test drive one! Let us know if it's something you would buy and how it compares to budget/mid priced known brands.👍🏽👌🏽
How can you be standing there without a Jumper Russell. Its freeeeeezing.
They look great very nice❤❤ from malawi 🇲🇼 Southern Africa
Nice car ! Best Regards from Bulgaria
The distance travelled is mainly done on a dynamometer to make sure that everything does what it is supposed to do. ie. road test
Great job and good luck
Thank you!
Great video, would love to see a test drive!
Coming soon! unless you can find the video secretly on the channel already, its not listed or published. But there is a hint about where it is in the community tab post from a few days ago.
good review
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks.
Все будет хорошо
it looking good
i remeber for the moskwich from the 60s
sharp corners
but they were good
Great video. Very interested in seeing more of Russia
👍👍👍🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺💪💪💪
Спасибо, Расселл!!
That would be great if you can request a test drive and review it 👍
Russell excellent presentation.❤❤❤
As a person who knows nothing about cars I still find this video quite interesting!
Thank you. :)
The car is assembled in Russia it’s a Chinese car
Well yea thats how it works in a lot of places. But assembly in Russia is good for jobs and such things 😅👍🏻🇺🇸❤🇷🇺
Great video! Even though you don’t know much about cars 😅. Watching from Jamaica 🇯🇲. One Love ❤️ 😎
Very positive impressions.
It would be interesting to see if he concept of electric vehicles actually gets off in Russia. Changing consumer habits is a challenge anywhere. Are drivers willing to switch and change their mindset!!
I am curious to know if the Russians have adapted to electric concept infrastructure. That’s, charging stations, service, maintenance etc.
thanks mate, good video
It's almost absent here, plus Russian culture is masculine to the limit, so driving an electric "cart" is viewed as girlish or childish by vast majority
На юге России вполне можно ездить на электромобилях.
@@AndreiBerezin Thanks mate, I thought so :)
I strongly doubt that electric vehicles will take root in Russia. Here, in most of the country, most of the year is winter. And quite harsh in places. And as you know, batteries do not feel very good at cold temperatures.
Big Market in Russia for Used Cars as New Models are too expensive for most Russians ! Yuan is higher than Ruble so.Import Cost is going up!
Russell, could you please make a video where you're doing a testdrive of Moskvich car?
Russell it looks great car.... looking forward to see one here in California.
Wow this is great
Interesting video I liked it.
In 1992 I was in Moscow for the first time, in the evening we were taking the metro and was passing a big factory area that was dark, no light at all, I asked the local guy that was with us what this was, "It is the Moskvich factory, it is closed, they have no engine to put into the cars, so closed it is", I was like wtf and asked about why no engines, and well it was because there were no bolts to hold the engine parts together, so that was apparently the end of Moskvich.
Hunger, poverty, unemployment, closed factories, all that is called in the West the "new era of freedom and true democracy" is gone and will never return. The factories didn't close "of their own". They were forced into bankruptcy and closed in order to create a niche for the supply of export goods. We haven't forgotten that.
The 90s are the worst time for Russia. Come on a tour right now. Putin has done a great job, no matter how much dirt is poured on him
Our car industry is bad. What really deserves attention is Kamaz trucks. It seems they have plans to produce passenger SUVs. They can do it.
And Moskvich is a Chinese copy. UAZ - low quality.
URAL - just idiots) Such a legendary truck brand has been ruined)
Moskvich switched to Renault engines in the 80's, I don't know what tale he was telling you. But the engines wasn't the reason.
@@petermoller4610 вы точно разбираетесь в том что говорите!? Уверен?
@@s7i5941 Последние 4 года моим местом работы является Волгоградский пр-т., 42, к. 36, Москва. Так что да, я кое-что знаю.