Sanctions vs Russia’s car market. Who wins?
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
- Life in Russia for ordinary people has been significantly reshaped by sanctions, especially when it comes to buying a new car. Join me and my wife as we go undercover at Moscow's largest car dealership and share revealing conversations with the staff that challenge the prevailing narratives in both Russian and Western media.
In addition, I got a chance to chat with a subscriber who's just traded in his Mercedes for a Chinese SUV - a trend that's picking up pace in Russia. And, we didn't miss the opportunity to check out Moskvich-3, a new Russian car that - let's just put it this way - looks surprisingly similar to a mid-range Chinese crossover. Buckle up and enjoy the ride!
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The real reason for the front seat in the Jaguar is not for passengers, it's really to give your mechanic a place to ride with you.
Хорошая шутка😂
Good one
A neighbor of mine had a Jag. That's not far from the truth.
And surprisingly Jaguar is own by Indian Tata Group 😂
I used to work for a company that owned 2 jags for high ups, aaaand the maintenance was so expensive that they decided to sell those and use premium taxi services. It was simply cheaper with no headackes...
I live in the Netherlands. And if a car salesman tells me "there's nothing to worry about".
It's time to be very aware. Of course Russian car salesman are totally honest and they would never try to rip you off....
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@@Гинсбрукскийсиндром аха, попизди тут! mentiroso
@@ciprianocoppola1892 said western propaganda employee 😂
mericans also , and brits too , they never ever gonna ripped you off , no way , they are very honest . got some serious automotive production ,
tesla and that 5 tone garbage rover.
Point me to where seller don't want to rip you couple of new holes...It classic trading bruh
I used to work for a Russian exporter who does this. Buys American BMWs, Mercedes, etc., drives them around the block until they clock about 15 miles, and now the car is "used" and able to be exported. Gets put in a container and shipped to the Middle East, where it is then forwarded to Russia. They switch everything over to Metric and change the Region on the other end. New car parts get over there the same way.
The part about how they drive the car around just to get mileage was very interesting. I had know idea they do it like that. A car dealership’s salesman told us its a ‘technical mileage’ a car ALWAYS has driving from an assembly line to a parking lot and so on… Thanks for sharing!
@@RealReporter in my country they don't even have to drive it. They simply register the car. That's it, now it's used. They call it 'km zero', which is brand new, but discounted. It was done when they needed to unload the inventory.
@@DerpEyevery straightforward and simple
Is there a market in shipping wrecked cars from Canada to Russia ?
@@importedz it was business for Georgia and Armenia, cars from USA were shipped to Batumi port, and as Armenia have customs benefits from Russia, then cars moved to Russia. It was restricted yo so long ago due to sanctions. But doubt that cars were exported from Canada, it is poor country, so cars are costs more and more cheap models.
I'm just one of those Russians who recently bought a Chinese Exeed car. And I'm very happy with her so far!
This is higher quality journalism than a vast majority of other sources. Good work ! And thank you for putting some perspective out here
Thank you! Your support is much appreciated
Except he is literally lying, he is claiming 19,5million rubbles is 265k when in fact its 190k, so the price of the X7 is false, dont take my word for it, just google.
@@NjoyMoney please note the USD/RUB exchange rate has changed quite a bit since the video release
Here in the UK, a set of pads for a Vauxhall Astra, a UK equivalent to your Opel, is around £20 ($25 US) and the labour to fit them maybe £40 ($50 US) from an independent garage. DON'T BUY THE JAG! Even at home parts are ridiculously expensive and hard to find!
You didn’t mention they are so bloody unreliable!!
Opel is not popular in Russia. The economy class is dominated by the Korean Kia and Hyundai. Now they are systematically ousted by the Chinese, like everyone else. A guide on how to lose a 150 million market for the ambitions of a foreign country. 🤷♂️
Anyway rear pads cost less than front pads
@@JIeu6KaMnaHu9UK roads are making UK cars fall in to pieces. UK has become like a 3rd world country. Dirt tracks are less bumpy!
@@johnknight8152 not half as bad as Russian roads with Russian drivers. At least in the UK we have proper driving licences and tests.
Fun fact for those People who look down on Chinese cars: China has surpassed Japan and Germany to become the world's largest automobile exporter. Chery provide a lifetime warranty for the entire vehicle in China, and 10 years 1 million kilometers warranty in some country like Malaysia
They will never match Japan's quality.
@@ddvsgd9508 same shit you said to toyota cars back then lmao
@@hurrikkkanes2533and about Korean
@@ddvsgd9508actually they surpassed specially byd
@@ddvsgd9508 Russian carts easily match Japanese cars in quality and durability. It's the Korean cars that suffer from low quality.
It's not just Russia, it's world wide.
Read Forbes article
China Overtakes Japan As The World’s Biggest Exporter Of Passenger Cars
Yes. because China was already a big exporter without their cars, they were doing 12 mil cars a year long time ago, all westen brands who had factories in China.
@@slavuaurelian2277 No. From 2010 to 2020, they were exporting between 500,000 to a million cars per year. Then in 2021 they started to spike. 2021 spiked to 2 million. 2022 hit 2.5 million. And now in 2023, hit 1 million 1st quarter alone.
@@slavuaurelian2277 These numbers are for passenger cars. Total cars exports are much larger.
@@slavuaurelian2277 Excerpt :
"China’s rise in vehicle production is due to increased global demand for new energy vehicles (NEVs) as countries enact legislation limiting fossil fuel (combustion) vehicles and their emissions."
"SAIC Motor, the Chinese state-owned automaker based in Shanghai (which owns the MG brand), and BYD Auto Co., Ltd., an automotive subsidiary of the publicly listed Chinese multinational manufacturer BYD Company (backed by US investor Warren Buffett), are some of China’s top exporters of NEVs."
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In Brazil the perception of chinese cars has changed too, 10-15 years ago chinese cars were a joke, now the Chery is taking over the market with very good cars.
As Russian saying goes 'Свято место пусто не бывает' (Holy place is never empty), Chinese seized the opportunity to go into a lucrative market without ANY competition.
Business wise, Western auto brands made a huge mistake, it'll take enormous effort to return to once lost market.
It's impossible to stay in Russia, look at the new sanctions the G7 has just imposed. Cars, and any car parts are banned from export to Russia.
As Russian you have no other choice
Как то хорошо товарищ??? Путин продал Россию Китаю. Россия должна уйти от старого Путина
@@ciprianocoppola1892
Yes, you're partially right.
But if you watched the entire video, it says the Western brands are still imported unofficially and there's even no problem with spare parts.
But I'm talking from the business POV, not the consumer's view.
It's not a mistake : if they did not withdraw there would be a serious boycott by western consumers, that would be even more expensive.
I feel like you're doing amazing work here. I actually feel like this is the way news should be reported everywhere straight, no bs, thanks I subscribed ASAP
Thank you! Really appreciate your comment, welcome aboard! 🤝
@@RealReporter imagine being Chinese and providing you pig skins with high quality cheap products and still getting racially abused for looking different than you
Eh he sounds pretty biased to me. You know when someone says “Western” they were influenced by Russian state sponsored media
@@TKUA11 But in Europe we also talk about "the west" when we mention Europe/North America. So I dont really understand your comment. Should he name every single country?
If car market Sanctions are about winning against a certain Special Opertion, someone across the Pond might want to think about their policy towards the suppliers of most of the vehicles you described.
Chinese brands are also entering to the Malaysian car market.
Geely bought over our local car brand, Proton a few years back. Now our roads are full of rebranded Geely SUVs.
Chery and Haval are set to come back by the end of 2023, for a second run.
You obviously have no clue about the US car market. The prices are INSANE.
$100K Ford F150s are not unheard of at all. The AVERAGE US car transaction price is OVER $45K, payments streched to 7 years..
Used car prices are on the average, 30-40% HIGHER. The dealer who sold me my new Jeep Compass in 2020, reached out and wants to buy it back for MORE than I paid for it three years ago. A new Jeep Compass (my model) costs $11K MORE today, than what I paid 3 years ago.
As Asian we've been seeing chinese brands for YEARS. It was pretty reliable too, it wasn't luxurious like the german in anyway, but it sure is nice with the price tag sold here. It's comfortable, it's reliable, parts are readily available, it's just scary how quickly they match the Japanese in short time.
Thanks for sharing! I've been curious to hear feedback on Chinese cars from someone who's had long-term experience with them. These brands indeed seem to be developing at breakneck speeds
Thanks for sharing! I've been curious to hear feedback on Chinese cars from someone who's had long-term experience with them. These brands indeed seem to be developing at breakneck speeds
Thanks for sharing! I've been curious to hear feedback on Chinese cars from someone who's had long-term experience with them. These brands indeed seem to be developing at breakneck speeds
They don't come close to matching American, Japanese or European cars. That's complete nonsense 😂
@@penskepc2374 you sounded like an expert on the Chinese cars, since your stament sounded like you have years of experience on it.
How many Chinese cars you have driven?
How many Chinese cars sold in your country?
The brake job wasn't bad at all. The cost, as compared to most US shops was very fair. Far cheaper. The pads seemed just a little high, but it wasn't absurd.
in the regions, the cost is much lower. And if in a friendly service it's even cheaper. The price tag on the video is unjustified
The salaries are bit lower. People from Germany near to Poland use to repair their car there for half price. My wind shield replacement did cost 150 instead of 600 in Germany
Yeah I’m sure brakes without abs are Gona be cheap to fix
ofc the job is much more expensive in the USA, look at the salaries. Its day and night, even in hungary you get more money for work than ppl in russia.
The average MONTHLY salary in russia is $700. Of course, services are cheaper.
I visited Moscow couple of months ago and was impressed by new luxury cars shop in downtown… Sanctions affects just middle class here, which had been establishing before the shit hit us. As everywhere and always - riches are getting richer, poor are getting poorer. imo, sanctions are rather rough way to influence the politicians but great way to lose the market
Exactly, luxurious cars are in abundance. Chip cars like Kia Rio now cost like VW Passat a couple of years ago. And now there are numerous chinese cars that weren't present before. So basically, popular car manufactures lost the majority of the market that has been taken over by the China.
If I were a westerner doing undercover docos, I would be very very careful.
You must have big balls.
Russia is on ah fast track to civil war, and entering the realm of North Korea.
Cheap crappy Chinese cars are not a patch on European cars.
The Russians had better get used to Chinese cars. There will not be any other options, unless Venezuela and Iran make cars competitively ? At least petrol will be cheap.
@@davidhancock91 Your intrinsic disdain for China and its products appears to lack genuineness. Have you personally experienced China, or ever utilized or tested a Chinese car? Their vehicles often exceed expectations in terms of reliability, luxury, and features, often outperforming comparable models from the US and Europe that come with hefty price tags.
@@davidhancock91 desde hace décadas los autos Europeos buenos no son opción en LATAM, los fabricados en nuestros países, Fiat, Renault, VW son muy inferiores a los del mercado de Europa y los vehículos Chinos qué están entrando al mercado nuestro son muy superiores, quien pierde? El mercado de autos tradiciónal, quien gana, China.
In big cities of Russia there is no point in a private car. Convenient and cheap public transport, cheap carsharing, cheap taxi. For long-distance trips, a private car is beneficial if there are at least three people in the cabin. But this small benefit is only in terms of spending on gasoline. And if you take into account the cost of maintaining a car (even before sanctions), it is cheaper to fly by plane or train. The only reason to have your own car is if you are a dacha or if you like to travel by car.
I agree. I live in Japan and use my bicycle or the trains and buses, its so much better. When I wanna go to the mountains or some place far away I usually rent a car for a couple days. It's a little expensive but cheaper and less stressful than owning your own car!
+1 to this. Its often very cheap to take public transport or taxi. For exaple in non busy hour Yandex drive me for ~100r (1.25$) for the most cases. And trains for long rides between cities is so much cheaper and comfortable.
That's what I thought. Moscow has excellent public transportation.
@@NorceCodine as far as I know, St. Petersburg and Nizhny Novgorod do as well.
You wanna rub shoulders with everyone in that bees nest of a city? hahaha. Get a cheap car travel in peace and quiet.
2 years ago, I bought a new Lada. Good price, brand new, tobe repaired easy....no brake downs. It is just a car, that is what I needed. Go for Lada. Missed in your report
Добрый день! Спасибо, что написали. А вы в Московском регионе живете?
The fact that you could get a bmw in Russia for less than 40k is amazing. In the US the prices you see were STARTING PRICES 10 years ago.
Here in south america, spare parts for "western" brands mostly are bought from china, and that includes brake parts, tubing, cooling systems, cosmetic replacements, etc. This applies for small vehicles and big ones, like trucks and buses. Im gonna be honest, and the only ones that are sketchy are for really high end vehicles or some americans like the early 2000 big v8 american pick ups. Gonna add that you can have some spare parts brands that says that the company its korean or japanese, but in the end all the stuff its also fabricated in china, like the iphones. (Used to work on a small family spare parts shop).
I will never trust my life with Chinese brakes.
@@RandomGuy9
Brake pads are just a piece of metal with brake material on it.
The brake disk is just a steel disc.
I'd use those even if they were made baboons in North Korea, and not have a worry in the world.
Those aren't the things in brake system that are going to fail (put your life in danger).
It's the car's hydrolic system, the calipers, etc that I wouldn't trust if it was made in China.
I don't even trust some of the usual brands.
E.g. If the car is some cheap crappy chinese car, but you install brake pads and discs made by NASA is not going to make the braking system more reliable. Because those things have little influence on braking reliability.
In other words, him buying chinese brake pads shouldn't be the main concern, buying a Chinese car should be the main concern.
How’s the car community in SA, is it lively out there are there decked out jdm’s and blacked out mercs?
@@dova238 depends on the country, Brazil has a car market but everything is 100% more expensive than in other countries.
Lot's of taxes you know, so much so that companies are actually moving to Argentina to manufacture cars and we are losing jobs.
Rich people "the extreme minority" can enjoy some good Japanese cars, the rest is running fwd entry cars (that are also insanely expensive)
Come on Mexican/Brazilian parts are just a little more expensive and are almost good as the original brands.
I though you were going to buy the Jag but I think you made the right decision, sticking with your old Opel for now.
Me, my 2000 Jeep Wrangler and 2006 Dodge Dakota are still getting me around Alaska roads, and off road as well, just fine.
My 2000 S-10 4x4 still purring like new.
Hey there! It's cool to hear from a viewer all the way up in Alaska! Yeah, I was tempted by that Jag but sticking with my trusty old Opel seems like the right move for now.
Sounds like your Jeep and Dodge are doing a great job keeping up with the Alaskan terrain! That's the beauty of old reliables, isn't it? They may not be the newest or the shiniest, but they get us where we need to go. Stay safe on those roads (and off roads), and thanks for tuning in!
@@RealReporter The North American equivalent to your Opel Astra is the Saturn Astra (thanks to badge engineering, which is why in the video you see ‘new’ Russian vehicles are Chinese designed; it is not an uncommon practice these days). Two oversimplified differences are lighting (North America has a different lighting standard), North America has a requirement for orange in the front and red in the rear for reflectors. Plus, General Motors (“GM”) owned Opel for almost a century (to be exact 1929-2017), selling Opel to PSA Group in 2017, PSA Group is now part of Stellantis.
@@ScottRothsroth0616 It was a Saturn Aura, 06-09, was a good car for the money.
Good deal, those cars with abs and airbags are going to serve you better in Canada than a Russian car without those
I am russian and I drive a 2018 Kia Optima GT right now. Bought it right before the pandemic for 2.100.000 rubles (around 26.500 USD). And I cannot say that I have any problems with spare parts! First of all, Optima (American K5) was a very popular car, so there are a lot of parts around shops. As for the filters and oil - they cost pretty good (I spent around 11k (around 138 USD) rubles to change all the filters and engine oil). During these times this price is actually OK. But 6 months ago we had to change the brake pads and discs on my mom's VW Tiguan, and the prices were a NIGHTMARE. We've spent like 50k rubles (630 dollars) on parts alone that time. But now analogs from China and less known brands have been entering the market lately and the prices are coming down slowly.
I wish everyone a great day and thank you for your great content! It's always a big pleasure to watch your videos!
@clemathieu JT I envy your prices in a good way! :)
@clemathieujt6589 In South Korea it would cost 50-60 USD
@clemathieu JT Oil and filter possibly contefeit hence price.
I'm a mechanic in the USA. I work on a lot of Kia vehicles. I generally like them I have only one warning it's a big one though. If your Kia has a gdi or direct injection engine there is a major issue with the engines going bad usually around the time you would be putting new plugs in. It is completely random many never have a issue but far to many do. It's at no fault of the owner it is a manufacturer fault. The best advice is oil changes and more oil changes on time or early.
@@sir.tacocartbearson1569 Thanks for the heads up! Will keep an eye on that!)
I've been going to russia 4 times a year since my wife lives there, and i always rent a Chery Tiggo and so far it's been an awesome car for us. very reliable, nice looking vehicle.simple but runs great.
You definitely should consider Chinese cars! I drive a 2016 Volvo which despite its Swedish origin, is now owned by Geely and manufactured in China. It’s held up great! The advancements Chinese brands have made in the past decade is insane, good quality, safety, and price! Far cry from the Chinese cars of the early 2000s. Just look up the Shanghai Auto Show in 2023 and see all the crazy improvements Chinese cars have made
China has had experience building Japanese cars for years now
I’m pretty sure most Honda sedans are built in China
That's great and I'm sure it is a good car but the reason I will not be buying one is because I do not want to support CCP. Unlike the Russians, I do have a choice which car I want to buy.
@@JasonB2025 That's the correct attitude. Sometime's we have no choice but to buy chinese stuff, but in this case? Big no no no.
@gigadude556 lol,so gullible 😅 Most things you buy are made in China,or at least some parts of them are.Its not about you supporting or not supporting CCP ,it's about Corporations who are still supporting them 😅
Geelyes are alright, i've driven the Volvo xc40, and that Geely thing that his sub has bought feels about the same. Cheaper inside maybe, but not any different for how it drives. Other chinese brands are mostly not there yet, but Geely is the priciest of the lot.
Heads up for you. China has this year become the biggest exporter of cars in the world. And in next few years will completely bury all competition. Its a whole new world. You are too young to remember, but when i was young, people used to laugh at the Japanese products. Within 10 years , there was no one laughing anymore.
the difference is that Japanese car companies initially offered high quality and reliability for good money. There were many interesting, sometimes even unique cars in their lineup. Chinese cars are just boring unreliable shitboxes.
@@beer_coin The its not "the difference" it is the same old garbage you are spewing about Chinese cars as people did about Japanese cars. The difference is that you don't know you are indoctrinated with the same bigotry.
@@beer_coin I don't know which car market you're familiar with, but in China, which is the biggest and most competitive market in the world, Chinese cars, or shitboxes as you call them, or whatever you really want to name them, are destroying their Japanese counterparts. Maybe Japanese cars are worse than shitboxes.
@@ruemignon that's how chinese protectionism works💁🏽♂️
@@beer_coin Volkswagen was the champion of ICE cars in China for 30 years, and now Tesla is selling like hot cakes, with more than 137,400 vehicles delivered to its Chinese buyers in the first quarter of 2023. Well, obviously whoever is responsible for Chinese protectionism isn't doing a very good job.
As Russian I see a lot more Chinese "Jac" cars and trucks on roads, besides Russian "Lada" of course. I think it's fine.
Потому что у нас нет выбора, либо наш автопром, либо китайский. По крайней мере официально. Но большая часть автовладельцев покупают машины из Японии, с правым рулём. Это очень хорошая альтернатива, по цене и качеству.
@@OrdinaryEgor Я не автовладелец, и в тонкостях не разбираюсь. По-мне, если машина может довезти тебя из пункта А в пункт Б - этого достаточно. А уж какой она марки, с какими опциями - это уже не так важно.
@@alexsilent5603 Очень даже важно :) Недавно Дром брал на большой тест драйв по городам, "наш" москвич и у него уже на 20 тысячах пробега сломалась трансмиссия, машина дальше не едет.
@@OrdinaryEgor Пока рано о чём-то говорить. Нужно лет 5 подождать, тогда уже можно будет говорить о недостатках этой модели. Но вообще, я надеюсь, что люди относятся с пониманием. В нынешней обстановке не до жиру...
@@alexsilent5603ВАЗ сильно изменился с многомиллиардными субсидиями? Очевидно, что нет. А цена, как у хорошего автомобиля. Причем все службы, типа полиция, скорая, МЧС и тд не используют их по работе.
I've owned a 2019 Chinese car Honqi HS5, now I have already done 174k km, no issues at all. 2.0T makes 300hp+8 speed auto+AWD
"2.0T makes 300hp+8 speed"?? TBH, that sounds totally pointless and stupid!
I hope you can afford a new car, not just taking bs on coments@@sagradamoly4234
Let's be realistic. Most car parts are nowadays imported from China, either original or similar. Therefore, the "running out" of parts isn't that true. I have been to some countries under US sanctions, and China is their biggest source. In fact, it is most of Europe's too.
How many of you haven't bought a part for your car, vacuum, washing machine, etc....??? Because the original costs $400, and the imitation is only $50? And they look the same.
Great video! We are now waiting for the promised report from the Moskvich automobile plant and about the new Lada models, the new Lada Vesta and the new crossover from the former Renault plant in St. Petersburg
My ex wife had that model Jaguar, it was terrible and everything kept breaking and falling apart. Also, I got a new 2022 Jetta last year with some options for $24K
Hey, thanks for sharing your experience! It's unfortunate to hear that your ex-wife had a tough time with the Jaguar. I also had reservations about this model to be honest... On the bright side, congrats on your new Jetta! And, of course, thanks for watching and taking the time to share
During years Jaguar appeared at the bottom list of the reliable cars. Then it was integrated in BMW.
A car is a body with inside thousand of secondary elements that are common to many brands. Jaguar is reliable as long as it integrates the same pieces than BWM.
Eg : Lada, Nissan, Renault have all possible common components.
Some companies (ie Valeo) manufacture common elements for all brands, they are worldwide. Reason why the spare pieces market is still there.
@@invest48 BMW bought the Mini Cooper as well.
@@invest48 jaguar land rover are going downhill since an indian company bought it
@@manishgrg639at are you some india hating NRI. Land Rover is going great. Racist frick
The best Russian blogger. Very professional
Thank you! 🤌
If you like spicy prices, go to Denmark …with 200% taxes on cars they are the world champions.
For me as a non Russian I don't consider myself buying a car from a country that sanction my country, after what happening now in the world I switch my interests into Russian and Chinese market.
Thank you for making these videos. It is eye opening for a lot of people!
58 years of driving behind me - my daughter took me for a ride in my first EV. It was a Chinese BYD, and based on that experience, I rate it highly as a local runner. Long trips would require regular charging. Charging spots are sparsely spaced and the charging time involved a huge inconvenience. But it was a top class ride. I find it hard to imagine that other EVs would offer more, and many might offer less. Me? I still prefer gasoline for rural and long trips.
Hey there! Wow, 58 years of driving, that's impressive! I'm glad to hear your first experience with an EV was positive. Though, I totally get you on still preferring gasoline for rural and long trips. It just feels more reliable, I guess... Anyway, thanks for sharing your insights. Keep those wheels turning!
@armamentarmedarm1699 Maybe? but I do not see the increase in electricity production in this country. Nor do I see the necessary upgrades of the network and distribution infrastructure. Also the price of electricity is being increased much, - and that will make personal travel unaffordable, and that surely would effect the demand for electric vehicles. So what exactly will future mobility look like? I do wonder. It does not make sense that the ideological rulers dictate supposed ecological rules removal of one main energy source before ensuring a viable affordable alternative.
@@kiwikeith7633 they might have to increase their focus on hydrogen instead, depends if that area also have some huge manufacturing drawbacks or not as batteries do now
@clemathieu JT And the point is that the Chinese PHEVs are more fuel efficient than conventional ICEs, in comparison to the European ones especially.
Chinese evs spontaneously combust on a regular basis
Thank you for your work and your videos. They are great and you and your family are great too. I laughed at your wife's joke in the jaguar. Russians are good people and you can see that quite well here.
Hey there! Thanks for the kind words! We're thrilled that you're enjoying our videos and that we made you laugh.The whole point of these videos is to show the human side of things, the day-to-day life of people who often get overshadowed by the politics and the headlines. I'm glad to hear that comes through.Thanks again for watching, and please keep the comments coming! We love hearing from viewers like you
@@RealReporter You speak excellent American English - are you American by birth?
@@NorceCodine Nope, I was born and raised in Russia, but I've always had a real passion for English. Thanks so much for your compliment and for tuning into my videos! 🤝
@@RealReporter Wow, fooled me! :))
Yeah, so, good people You say? I live in Dnipro, Ukraine. You can come here and see how “good” they are. Jesus Christ, there is some guy in this video that want to go to the army instead to find a normal work and telling about how much money he will get for killing people in my country! It’s absurd.
I'm about 16-17 minutes into your video. One thing I think that is universal is that salesmen are not to be believed. The salesmen there are no different than the ones here in the U.S. at many dealerships. For them, the bottom line is they want to sell you something and they will do or say whatever they have to do it. You're doing the right thing by asking friends and doing some research.
China wins.
My Toyota dealer is selling Chinese cars.
What's interesting - no problems with parts, getting it from Europe, Canada, China and Japan.
The most expecive BMW car that I saw in a dealer in massachusetts USA was 160,000 and thats is a lot. My house costed me 235,000. I guess I will still buy japanes cars my mitsubishi costed me 27,000
Cars made in
Japan are the best
The Chinese Car market is really something huh. Even in the US, they've also entered it in force. South America, Africa, the Middle East, and I don't think its as big as the others but I already see Chinese brands in Europe too. It really shows how much effort their putting into there economy and making sure its seen far and wide.
So far, FAW, Howo, and Shacman are really proven brands since they are parntered with MAN, Mercedes Benz Trucks and even PACCAR Group with the Shacman 3000 models sporting the legendary US engine brand Cummins and comes with an ISM or ISX15 engines in their cabovers. Their also notorious for being insanely over specced(Their 8X4 and 8X8 dump trucks always seem to be prepared to be overloaded and abused beyond belief), comfort is not to my surprise an afterthought but they made sure these things will last till WW4 with a monkey mechanic with a wrench from 1955.
Whatever China is doing, its genius. Their taking what's best from East and West, mending it with Asian reliability and cheapness and making something in the middle. Its scary but its working.
I always see Shacman X3000 with the Cummins engine on it and man, they sound great when straight-piped. Also, other Chinese auto manufacturers that focus on diesel-powered automobiles like Foton now often use the nameplate Cummins which they put on their light trucks and Vans and it seems to be working from an advertising perspective.
Chinese ev are amazing and luxury.
Shacman's are tough
> Even in the US, they've also entered it in force
huh ? which brands ?
Thank you for your great videos 👍
Greetings from Germany 😁
Great choice! Here in Romania we don't change our cars. We fix our old cars until they are not worth fixing. My volkswagen golf 4 TDI is 24 years old and it has plenty of life left in it. It still drives like a 5 year old car.
is a 1.9TDI the best Engine.
Russia too I have a 09 trailblazer I got brand new back then (my first car ever) so recently on a weekend I rebuilt the suspension (bushings shocks ball joints tie rods etc) it drives like the day I drove it off the dealership parking lot
walking coffins lmao
@@veneps still better than newer cars that can be seen in junk yards with blown engines and 180000 kilometers on the clock.
@@lupulflamand5673 sigur, cum crezi tu
Surprisingly good report. This is how journalism should be conducted.
I love these videos! Thank you for making them! I learn so much!
Edit: The Production Value is also amazing!
Thank you! It’s really nice of you to say that 🤝
Russian. My family decided to keep our Opel Zafira 2008 as long as possible. Good car.
So did I just with my Tourer of 2014 ))
Car prices in US increased during the pandemic. Dealerships are selling cars above the sticker price because they claim demand is high and supply is low due to "supply chain issues".
Toyota Prius starts at $28k but people are actually paying $35k+.
Honda CR-V (a small SUV) technically starts at $28k but with markups, taxes, and random fees it's more like $40k+
Tesla Model 3 is around $40k (Tesla has fixed prices and doesn't negotiate price unlike other brands).
Additionally a lot of Americans finance their cars. Interest rates are going up which means higher car payments.
Currently, there are no Chinese cars in the U.S. However, that might change. BYD makes buses in the U.S and has an office in California. They're looking to enter the North American market with their electric cars. but it will be tough. It took a long time for people in the U.S and Canada to accept Korean brands like Hyundai and Kia. Hyundai and Kia had to offer long warranties because people perceived them as cheap and unreliable.
Good video mate! As a car enthusiast I enjoyed seeing a different perspective.
I can't imagine the political situation helps. Customers shopping for non luxury/performance offerings would probably buy PRC cars given the pricing is attractive. But protectionist policies probably stand in the way of that
maybe the chinese car can't enter USA in 10 years as they have to pay 25% tax
A в России машины стоят в 2 раза дороже. Я плакал когда узнал цены на тесла в Америке. Плюс у вас зарплаты выше. Россия родина слонов)
The biggest obstacle is geopolitics. Given what happened to Huawei many other Chinese companies, Chinese auto makers would be very cautious/reluctant to enter north America.
Bought recently a 1 owner Prius with 50k miles for $15k. Deluxe version with heated front seats. Great car, runs like new.
Here in Brazil people also looked at Chinese brands negatively, but this has been changing. Chery was the first to establish itself well and already manufactures cars in the country. Haval bought a Mercedes Benz plant and now BYD is negotiating to buy an old Ford plant.
I don't know about Europe (although I suspect it is even more Expensive>), but in the
Вы не поверите, но через 3-5 лет русские никогда не пересядут на европу или америку. Китайцы учатся делать машины. По гибридам и злектричкам они уже сделали Запад. Осталось довести да ума надежность и управляемость, все остальные параметры уже за ними.
Jaguar has high depreciation and the reason behind it is the expensive maintenance and spares because of which resale value is low but overall it's really good. In India we get cheap jaguars but because of these reasons people who are involved in luxury car rentals for weddings and hotels & resorts buy these stuff a lot because they earn massive in every drive that expense is nothing for them.
Get an extended warranty, this is a British product in the end. Sincerely a Land Rover owner :)
And yes, what the Chinese car dealer told you is correct. Parts and maintenance even in a non sanction environment is expensive af. Waiting time for a part that is not already in your country is also up to a month.
And who would sell and honour such a warranty in Russia if sanctions are continued or further escalated?
@@notroll1279
i don't understand why the so called privet western componies are following the gev political will..... isn't that why they hate on socialism
my car Chevrolet Lacetti is with me forever 😅😂😂😂
У меня был Chevy Cruze 2011 года с пробегом 128747,52 км. Я сбил оленя на концерте в честь своего дня рождения в Северной Каролине, он отлично поехал.
Skoda is leaving China very soon too. Before 2010, China's domestic brand cars were really trash. Even the road network was designed to handle poor performance vehicles.
After 2015, domestic brand is becoming an option here. Also China's foreign brand cars are also joint ventured with domestic brands (EXCEPT TESLA, it get a special permit by Shanghai gov).
BTW, the most selling price category for personal cars in China is 100k~200k CNY (12.5k~25k USD). Also China is pushing for BEV and HEVs. What you see here are all kinds of outdated options and brands. It's much more common to see a BYD, Tesla, GuangQi and other foreign brands' EV or HEVs.
Also, Haval, a sub brand of Changcheng aka, Greatwall, is having a really bad marketing right now. (The tech is still good, but marketing is killing itself) We are not looking good on it. Avoid it if you can.
Thanks for the informative report! I was wondering about this.
Brilliant. Love that Moskvich, after all discounts.
Chinese Trash
its JAC
@@Chaldon-hl6yk Yep. Looks good and drives good. Overpricing of the Moscow retailers is unfortunate. But I am pretty sure there are a lot of people just buying these cars in China and driving them over Amur river to sell instantly just like before with japan cars in Vladivostok.
@@ThatGuy-fq8cn Amur River is a long way from Moscow!!
They'll just buy Chinese cars, they're just as good if not better than western cars at this point. The car show in Shanghai this year was an eye opener. People in the west haven't even heard of some Chinese car brands that are making spectacular cars on the level of the premium western car makers already.
Skvělé video. Právě jsem objevil váš kanál a časem si prohlédnu všechna vaše videa...!!! Jsem z České republiky a u nás se o Rusku hodně lže. Politici a novináři jsou v České rep. velcí lháři !!! Držím vám palce !
Hey! Glad to hear I have viewers tuning in from Czech Republic. Thanks for your support, it means a lot! 🤝🇨🇿
Welcome to the JAg club, bro! Those are.... I mean i had 3 already! :))) 230 bgn or 115 euro. Gearbox oil change -> around 350 bgn or 170 euro.
Never, ever buy a British car. Unless you can buy two - one for the repair shop, one for your garage.
It's kind of strange that you completely ignored Russian domestic carmakers - Lada and UAZ. They are still producing quite a lot of vehicles, even though some of them are now lacking some important features like ABS or automatic transmission. The cheapest Lada Granta costs around 1 mln RUB new, and it is comparable to an old Opel Astra in comfort, safety and cost of spare parts.
сравнивать Гранту и Астру, это очень надо постараться. это машины из разных классов, Астра это Ц класс, а Гранта это Б- класс, даже не смотря на возраст
@@timmy_whitebear Вы уверены?! По поводу Опелей в Германии есть поговорка: проснулся плохой инженер и придумал Опель.
They're basically renaults. That's why.
Is that the cars without ABS and Aiebags? Id even buy something “made in china” before I buy a coffin on wheels
Вы ему еще Оку посоветуйте )))
Brazilian here. Haval, Chery and JAC (the JS4) are sold here as well.
They are 3 different companies, so there are different ups and downs.
But in general all of them have good material quality, but its too soon to know about reliability.
Some parts from Chery takes a while to ship.
Haval and GWM are on advanced stages of concluding the structure of building their vehicles here that was Ford's.
Volkswagen owns 49% of JAC as a way to evolve the EV products.
The JS4 are a promising car, I hope in a short future Chinese cars have some "trust" and good price like Opel and other european brands that are not too expensive.
Thank you for your work! I'm in awe of your pronunciation!
As a petrolhead I have to say that the white Geely Coolray you showed as a part of this video is a fine example of a well-made Chinese car. Some go as far as comparing it to Volvo XC40, but these two are not the same and in the end you always get what you pay for. Nevertheless, it is a great choice if you are on the budget because the steering and acceleration are superior to many Chinese competitors in this price range. Also, the interior looks quite nice. Not to mention this model has been on the Russian car market for 3 years already, so it was competing with well-known car brands even before the sanctions...
P.S. A proud owner of a `09 Honda Jazz which was bought used in June 2020 as a first car and now costs more than it did three years ago here in Russia 🤣
Guess I will stick to my car either 🤷♂
Hey, thanks for the comment and the compliments!
I totally get what you mean about the Geely Coolray. From what I've seen and heard, it's really quite impressive, especially considering its price point. And hey, congrats on your `09 Honda Jazz holding its value - always a good sign! Seems like we're both in the "stick to our cars" club for now! 😂
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and being a part of this community! Drive safe!
Lotus and Volvo already belong to the Chinese.
Its compareable to Volvo since Geely makes their stuff hand in hand with Volvo now, same goes for Polestar which is just a styling name for Volvo turned into its own company under the Geely umbrella
So far, Wuling being the most succesful Chinese brand car in Indonesia overall. It could be so easy to find Wuling on Indonesian road for last 5 years.
And now wuling Air EV being the most selling EV in Indonesia after Hyundai Ioniq5, meanwhile Japanese brand still have less demand on EV models because all of them still imported meanwhile hyundai and wuling already locally assembled their EV.
For now there are several Chinese brands exist in here, wuling, DFSK, MG, Chery, NETA and recently GWM group such as Haval, ORA, and TANK. And don't miss the Maxus brand, and BYD will reportedly come to Indonesia next year.
You're on the right track staying in your beater son! Do like I'm doing with my '06 Buick Lucerne CXS with a Northstar V-8, and drive it til the wheels fall off!
Great job on the video! I just bought a used 2017 Volvo xc60 t5 model in Florida last fall for like $24k or $28k after all the taxes and fees, and it was like you had to spend $25k just to get a decent car, back in the day it was $10k, seems like 10 years ago $20k would get you a decent normal car.
Hey, thanks for the kind words! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. It's crazy how prices have changed over the years, right? Cars definitely aren't as affordable as they used to be. But hey, at least you were able to snag a good deal on your used Volvo! It sounds like a great choice. Enjoy your new ride and thanks again for watching!
so cheap. In China xc 60 like double the price.
worth of money went down .....50y back 20k was a supercar money like a jag e type or ferrari :D
As far as I'm concerned, you can buy a new decent car in the US for around 17000 dollars. It's the Nissan Versa.
We have had Chinese vehicles in South Africa for over 20 years and they are not too shabby. Many have survived our harsh conditions. Also we have had just as good experience ce with Indian vehicles. Russia should look into that too.
Indian vehicles are not really for the Russian market since those tend to be made out of cardboard and less interesting to look at than burning cigarettes
@@Axel_sms 🤣
@@Axel_sms nice joke. Look at the Indian cars now. Tata and Mahindra is two solid brands. Heck even Toyota and various other european brands tried to secure Mahindra diesel engines for their cars because of their incredible performance.
Несколько месяцев назад менял на солярисе задние колодки.
Hi-q, комплект 3000р ($37).
Работы - поддомкратил и поменял не спеша, в сервисе взяли бы в районе 1000р ($12).
“This Skoda costs a whopping $38000 dollars!”
Meanwhile in Singapore, where you need to pay up to $90000 USD just for the right to legally own a car:
OMG 😱
@@RealReporter The Singaporean government imposes a very high tax on the purchase of passenger cars. Due to the small size of the country, it is not possible to provide enough roads and parking lots for private cars.
Great video! Yeah, the chinese brands have smoothly entered our market. We bought a new Chery Tiggo 7 Pro at the beginning of 2022 for 1.7 million rubles before the prices skyrocketed (now the new one costs around 2.6 million rubles). And my dad is currently choosing between a few car models, specifically a new Exeed RX when it's going to come out.
How’s your Chery doing after one year?
@@RealReporter no problems occured except for one - the windshield, it is very fragile. We often go to Moscow, the road is long and quite bad, so little stones often fly into the windshield, yet there were no problems on other cars, like Opel or Kia. And in the case of Chery - the windshield has cracked twice on different months. We only replaced it once (40k rubles) and now decided to wait untill the crack becomes bigger 'cause otherwise we'd probably have to spend money on a new windshield veery often.
@@fersotic Rich people have such difficult lives!
A 78 000km Jaguar is a shitbox regardless of the price.
Ja englische Autos haben noch nie was getaugt immer Reperaturanfällig
I am looking for second car for the wife, but the prices here in Australia are through the roof. You have given me impetus to see what Chinese brands are offering.
> see what Chinese brands are offering.
EVs
Глядя на всё это, я пожалуй и дальше буду ездить на своём Ford explorer.
Currently in Singapore. A BMW X7 will cost USD$485,610 to get on the road. There is Mercedes X350d (diesel version) here running for around USD $361,000.
lil
those are the normal prices for the cars 5:20. We pay 400K USD for a mercedes S600 here in asia with NO SANCTIONS in singapore.
Chinese cars quality nowadays, way ahead of any usa made car quality, even compared to japanese cars,.a normal Geely Binyue interior like in this video, at the same level as lexus or luxury european cars , not just cheap plastic interior like toyota.,even their green 3 cylinders engine not as shaky as japanese made engine..I wont be surprised if u bought a Geely after owning BMW or Mercedes.10 years ago, I was laughing at chinese fake imitation cars video, now I am truly impressed, how the times have changed In the blink of an eye.No wonder USA feels threatened by China.
It's amazing how quickly Chinese brands began to conquer the Russian market, but it's not so easy to break me, just for the sake of a cat-wife
its really because the russians don't really have very many options.
" it's not so easy to break me, just for the sake of a cat-wife"--- What does that mean?
@@levinszki 8:35
@@tmuuuuur ahhh so thats what he meant I see бро
It's not just Russia.
Read Forbes article :
China Overtakes Japan As The World’s Biggest Exporter Of Passenger Cars
In Greece for an older car you can find brake pads for 10 to 20 euros depending on what is in stock
And usually the mechanic, as long as the brake disks are OK will ask around 20€ for his work
But to be honest Judging from the practices of spare parts shops in my country that keep years worth stocks
And by the fact that most expendable parts are made in countries like China and Turkey and that many many parts are interchangeable between brands
I will be surprised if Russian shops found them selves without spares
I have an old Sportage 2, 2006, diesel, four-wheel drive. A set of original Korean front pads, in the store where I constantly buy spare parts now cost 3,990 rubles, and about six years ago, I looked at the receipts, I bought them for 3,100 - 3,300 rubles. However, six years ago the ruble to dollar exchange rate was 58 rubles, and now it is about 90 rubles per dollar, which is almost twice as high, and the price has hardly changed - miracles.
@@vladimirnikolskiy probably has to do with having stock from before the war, I mean at least in my country those places literally by entire shipping containers that can last for years
@@Pavlos_Charalambous No, it's not. There are different proposals. Those in which delivery takes 1-3 days are Russian warehouses, and those in which 10-15 days are from abroad. Shop EXIST RU.
Chinese car prices in Brazil are almost the same price in Russia and we don't have any sanctions.
If anyone is being robbed by daylight, I think its not russians.
Wow! That’s interesting. Thank for sharing
It’s actually really nice to know I have viewers all the way from Brazil 😁
@@RealReporter There's a big interest about Russia in Brazil.
I use to follow a russian youtuber called Sergey Baklykov, who have a UA-cam channel callled "Real Russia". Its quite interesting until he became notorious and started to publish videos about how to earn money with bitcoin and something like that, then I stop to follow him.
Theres even russian UA-camrs who live or lived in Brazil and make videos in portuguese.
Thank you for your great content. Just become a follower! ;-D
Well dont think Russians would be hit or anything, Every european car is over priced, does not last more than their warranty and costs an arm, leg and also kidney to repair if broken down, which they do liberally. That is why all those suckers are closing one by one in India. It has become a joke saying "ok your kid got a licence to drive, Well just buy him some german luxury brand used box, They would be available for say 1/80 of their new price anyway. And since they do not run a long way with the fuel, The kid wont be running anywhere long for the time.
tht Ferari F430 is CHEAP! the same year and Km here is $270,000- 350,000 Australian ..... i just checked.
Unfortunately, Russia is too cold.
So the good electric cars made by the Chinese are difficult to adapt to such extremely cold weather.
But with oil prices so cheap in Russia, you don't need to drive an electric car. maybe TANK300 OR 500 A brand owned by the Great Wall can adapt well to the Russian situation.Their cars cost a lot of gas but are very durable。it cost 200000RMB in china.
In my view as a Chinese, the price of Chinese cars sold in Moscow is not quite reasonable maybe50%higher？, but This is the best you can get right now。
Here in our country oem brake pads to a similar model to your optra (like a civic or corolla) would cost around $30 to $35 US dollars. We have cheaper brake pad brands which are "replacement" brands that cost half but still getthe job done more or less. Labor for replacing the pads here would cost just around $10 or less(much less sometimes). These are all repair shop prices and local auto supply stores. Dealerships charge more.
And your country is...?
@@alexmonster2007 philippines 😁
@@jannzerochanneland your salary is..?
@@de..vision roughly only 1000 dollars a month. Minimum wage earners at about 300 dollars a month usually can afford low cc bikes wherein brake pads can cost as little as 3 to 4 dollars. Usually easy to DIY but you can just give a mechanic 1 dollar to have the pads replaced on a low cc bike.
That brake pad set is same as here in New Zealand. The labour charges is same.
In Romania, if a car salesman tells you there's nothing to worry about that's usually when you run to the other side of the country for your life.
The biggest issue with Jaguars (and Land Rovers) are they are complete garbage in the reliability department even with all the parts in the world. Run from these brands.
The reality is, the Chinese cars are fine and getting better every year. And better looking, too. Remember that Hyundai/KIA and Honda used to be considered junk brands. Now they are excellent. Chinese cars are not far behind.
But the best car brand is the car you already have. Get some bodywork and new paint and the Opel will be fine!
Korean cars are OK, NOT EXCELLENT
My dad has a new Tiggo 7 Pro and it was the first car ive been in that felt really comfortable and futuristic in a sense. It has alot of features like sunroof, heated seats, great aircon (i live near the equator so this is a must), and even mood lighting. The only issue my dad hates was the LED headlights not reaching that far. Powerwise, its great on paper. But when my dad floored it with the sport mode, there was just a small pulling feeling. Idk I was maybe expecting much coz it has a turbo. But in a practical sense where you want to go from A to B while being comfy and having extra, modern features, its a great car on its price which is around 22k USD converted.
Let’s see if it’s still running 2 years from now tho
@@bigmedge yeah let's see coz it was bought last year
Just be smart and get rid of it before the warranty expired
@@padorukurumi6572 exactly, so let’s see if a 3 year old Chinese car will still be running
@@bigmedge then you should ask a brazilian or a chilean.
In Poland its the same price. But inflation in Poland is 16,3 % , in Russia 3.8%
Jaguar is cheap in the US as well because they have one of the worst reliability reputations while not having the same prestige as having a Land Rover (which is also horrible when it comes to reliability). Alfa Romeos are also cheap, and Maserati Giblis. This last one specifically, brand new Gliblis cost 80k$ but you can get one from 2018 in the low 30k.
Very insightful content. Signing up to your channel!
Welcome aboard!
They sell very well these Chinese cars here in North Africa.
China has saved me many times when I couldn't get spare parts. Personal experience
You didn't show any Lada's
Surprisingly, there are practically no Lada cars in Moscow. Once I decided to count the number of Russian cars in the parking lot and out of 30, only one was Russian.
Лада входила в альянс Renault -Nissan, и многие компаненты были от этих автомобилей, а так же электроника от Bosch. Из-за санкций возникли проблемы с поставщиками, и выпуск машин снизился. Так же автомобили lada имеют механическую коробку передач, а жители Москвы из-за пробок и трафика предпочитают автоматическую трансмиссию😅
because it's not a car lol
13:05 That guy still bought a European car.
Geely car is the Volvo car that replaces LOGO.
Damn, a new X7 is supposed to cost around 77k here in the US, but even a base trim with no options can be around 100k. But whenever I look at the dealer markups here, I’m just glad I don’t live where they go for double or triple the price.
I think keeping your older car is the best move, recently I had the experience of driving a Hyundai Kona Electric EV, everything was so amazing at first until the first payment came due, I was able fortunately to get out of the lease and return back to my older car. While owning the new car I made up reasons to go places just wasting money to justify why I leased it, also constantly worried where to park it and waiting for that first scratch etc, when I returned to my old car I was so relaxed I didn't drive it needlessly, and I didn't care where I parked it. Also no monthly payment and parts are cheaper then the new car. It is at the end of the day a better experience and life is more relaxing in the older car
Chinese cars are way better than Korean cars now, it is well known that Kias and Hyundais after 100.000 km start having serious engine and transmission reliability issues!
True. I know someone at a dealership and confirm this.
Some Chinese auto makers have employed Japanese engineers who are tired of working for staid Japanese companies and can now be more creative working at Chinese companies and that brings Japanese reliability to Chinese brands.
Those prices are childs play compare to those in Singapore 😂
I'm from Mexico
We had a Jac frison as a patrol vehicle, after 3 months the seats were very worn off (ripped apart) note to say that vehicle was used 24/7 in mountan/urban terrain.
As service goes, we had no problem with the dealership.
Mi municipio tambien nos dio camionetas Frison para vehiculo de trabajo y si compradas con las np300 son mas vistosas pero no duran nada
Thanks for this report 🙏