I think it’s a terrible idea to wait until 20 for a secondary job simply because you lose nothing by going into it And you can get skills for both at the same time So there is no reason to really wait
People please make therion a warrior. He becomes an evasive tank who can use incite to tank for the whole team. Level slash gives him a powerful Aoe attack that can be used for breaking. And the 50 strength plus surpassing power. Ive been doing 25000 damage to everyone with an abided therion using aebers reckoning on an armor corrosive foe. I have never seen anyone do that much damage. Edit:This is a level 40 therion btw Please make therion an offensive tank rather than another support. If you want a support use tressa, ophillia, prim or alfyn.
I feel like therion is better with runelord, since therion mostly uses normal attacks/armor/attack debuffs. Tressa is a good support role but also a great offensive character because if you spam veteran soldiers like i do, you can do a lot of damage with Tressa
ReaperZGaming well im talking about the normal subjobs here. I havent even got to the advanced jobs yet. Im just saying that until you reach the advanced jobs(which will be a long while) you should use warrior therion as it kicks ass.
@b except for the sercet job bosses... Those are the most inflexible and mind boggling bosses in the game... Your stats or a particular party doesn't help at all and you are forced to follow a pattern instead which is frustrating
I use Therion as a thief/warrior, which makes him an incredibly powerful character, essentially making him a speedy heavy hitter. With incite he can practically dodge everything.
Agreed. People look at Primrose's skill list and write her off as a buffer, but they fail to realize her elemental attack stat is nearly as high as Cyrus, with enough speed to break enemy defenses at the beginning of the round instead of the end. And after you unlock Sorcerer, Cyrus doesn't gain nearly as much by doubling down with more of the same types of spells that he already has.
Yea I like Cyrus as a merchant but I will dip in Dancer to gain SP every turn. I like that he can hit wind and then I have Ophellia as a dancer so she covers light and dark spells. But Primrose is like my back up black mage and so far she's my third or fourth best character.
Primrose makes an amazing scholar too. I use her buffs until I get enough bp to obliterate everything in one hit. Prim has a little bit less eATK than cyrus, but she has better speed which I like
at level 100 (without items equipped) Cyrus only has 28 more Elemental attack than either Primrose or Ophilia. In speed Primrose has 114 more than Cyrus. Closing the elemental gap is way easier than trying to get Cyrus to match Primrose in speed.
Primrose...starting character and I made her an odd one I gave her the Warrior Secondary Job, a supporter with massive power behind her strikes, it actually works very well with how I sticked with it Therion, Apothecary with ace, a speedy healer and a hand in hand strategising core with Warrior Pimrose, helps deny tricky status debuffing bosses
Therion can become REALLY good when used correctly! If you give him the merchant as his second, not only can he rest now, but he can also use steal sp! Combined with share sp if another gets low, that’s very useful. Plus, with high attack power, your getting a LOT of sp for every steal sp you use. Of course with super high evasion, 50% of the time he won’t even get hit, which makes him not have to heal most of the time, again saving sp!
I have Cyrus as dancer, Ophelia as apothecary, Tressa as cleric, and Olberic as thief, and the coverage is great. I know this is the wrong video, but Tressa is amazing as a cleric because she gets the 50% SP cost reduction, which means the big party heal only costs 12, and full party revive is only 25
The build I've been going with is Ophilla/dancer H'annit/warrior Primrose/scholar Olberic/apothecary I'm not that far in only completed prim and ophilla's chapter 2s but it's working better than my previous setup which was Ophilla/apothecary H'aanit/warrior Cyrus/merchant Prim/theif
I actually disagree that Primrose is” the ultimate buff character” Because she can only do one buff per turn which is not a problem for random encounters but in boss battles it sucks and it takes too long to get buffs up on everyone. And getting her to a point where she can buff your entire party in one go (via dancer divine skill) either takes 7 turns of waiting/doing other action to save boost points, or 2 turns while expending 2 other character’s turns to use resources on her. I feel like the dancer (main or sub) is best at boosting/buffing itself rather then trying to buff your party and it’s great on characters/classes that already have a near perfect kit and just need a way to get some extra damage or survivability. If you care about the opinion I’ve come to based on what I’ve tested, I’d say the best 2nd job picks for everyone in octopath is: Primrose - Scholar/Thief/Sorcerer/Starseer/Runelord Therion - Cleric/Warrior/Merchant/Hunter/Starseer/Warmaster/Sorcerer/RuneLord/Apothecary Alfyn - Cleric/Merchant/Dancer/Thief Tressa - Hunter/Warrior/Scholar/Runelord/Warmaster/Thief Cyrus - Merchant/Dancer/Starseer/Cleric H’aanit - Warrior/Warmaster/Dancer Olberic - Warmaster/Runelord/Cleric/Apothecary/Thief Ophelia - Starseer/Apothecary/Sorcerer I can explain these choices, if anyone cares to know. I know that I’m not some popular youtuber or analyst that people care to hear the opinions of.
Wesley Anthonisz Mostly because Sorc doesn’t do anything that Cyrus’s base kit doesn’t already do. All sorc does on Cyrus is make his base job useless by giving an extra hit on the elements he already has, and gives him access to Light/Dark/wind All of which can be gotten from other jobs that give other and better benefits. And sorc gives Magic crit, but crits are only a 25% DMG increase and Cyrus has no issue hitting the dmg cap without crits. Merchant allows him to be self sufficient in his mana consumption and regeneration and cure himself of status effects not named silence while giving him a bit of utility and 2 more break options in the physical weapons merchant provides plus access to Wind magic. Dancer allows him to buff himself or allies in 4 different areas, gives access to dark magic and daggers while also providing some MUCH needed speed and evasion. Starseer’s base skill allows him to hit all 3 of the elements he’s missing at one time, and provides BP battery utility and regen for long fights. I could go on if you want me to explain each class in detail, but the short is Sorc doesn’t provide him anything he needs out side of access to Light/Dark/Wind all of which can be obtained from other sources with better utility.
What if i were to make Cyrus my main Damage, by using the break damage limit skill from warrior class in conjunction with high elem attack and the other elem boosting skills? Still better of doing other stuff i assume
Wesley Anthonisz More or less the same, but I suppose that Sorc could be faster at killing things due to getting 3 hits out of his spells instead of 1-2. But I’m unsure if it’s really needed, I also advise against having once source of DMG and that source is magic... Magic can be reflected by some later bosses.
LOL you could have just made his video 5 seconds saying PATH ACTION COUNTERPARTS, THIEF, AND MERCHANT. But I’m glad you didn’t! Love the take you have on games like this. You’re so articulate, it’s a breath of fresh air. I hope we get more speculation videos soon!
So the “TL;DR” is if in doubt, use the counterpart to the character lol. I think that’s what I’m going to do. It does make sense for people who don’t try or care to find out max potential combos. Especially early on
Yeah, but doing that leaves you with 4 characters that are just copies. If tressa's a thief and therion's a merchant, then you just have two of the exact same characters
Merchant Primrose is a Support Goddess. With her high speed she can just BP up allies at the best times, then when she is finally ready you use the Dancer Divine skill. Give it to herself for massive boosts for the party, Or give it to a Cleric and have them mass cast Magic Reflectors and watch as magic based bosses start killing themselves. As a scholar she basically helps Nuke the board super fast as a Magic Sweeper.
Cyrus is terrible with Axes/Inspiration since his strength is the lowest in the party. H'annit warrior is very versatile because she now has a divine damage skill for both single and multi-target. Abide also gives her the ability to self-buff her strength which she can't normally do.
I am using Primrose as a scholar and her initial elemental attack stat is already quite high. Equip her with the right gear and watch the high numbers roll. Second Wind allows her to gain SP every turn (great for a Scholar), and once able to add in SP Saver from the merchant class, and you basically never have to worry about SP again.
Many are saying this, I’m surprised I didn’t anticipate how amazing she is as an attacker. I finished Cyrus’s story and swapped him out for primrose/scholar and I’m super impressed so far.
I use Therion - Scholar Olberic - Hunter Ophelia - Apothecary (for that ultimate heals) But I also have my Cyrus and I don't know what would be the best for him considering the rest of my team
I got Therion with apothecary sub job, when he is in 1 hp he can do 20k dmg aoe (he has advance passive to allow mx dmg) since he is fast, he will attack first almost always. when fully bp and break he can do 99 999 dmg.
Thief Cyrus is my personal faveorite early/mid game class clmbo :3 i find the Cyrus Cleric to be too obvious and slow like you mentioned. I even tried merch and dancer, keep coming back to thief
i use : Therion - Merchant (wind just to help breaking enemies - hitter - enemy breaker - pilferer) Olberic - Hunter (hitter - tanker - and also enemy breaker) Cyrus - Apothecary (have thunder - can high-heal a single ally while stacking up BP before hitting with magic) Ophilia - Dancer (have both light and dark element - myriad of supports and importantly magic buff for Cyrus) previously i used Warrior on Therion, the Incite skill is really good as enemies will hit him just to miss almost all the time)
Originally I just had noble be there rogue counterpart (example, Tressa Therion). Now I am switching things up. Right now for grinding, I have a merchant Prim, a warrior Tressa, a thief Han, and a scholar Ophil. In the tavern are a Cleric Cy, a medic Olb. The other are classless right now.
Recommending that someone train in a specific class to gain the support skills is one thing, but to recommend that class long term for a character is another. This should be specified. Like for Cyrus training as a Merchant. He WANTS SP Saver, but there are certainly better long term class recommendations for him
Interesting combinations, some more obvious than others. May I speak out a wish for another video? In that case I'd like to see a video or two about party combinations (perhaps pre and post second class) That would be so awesome!!
Another outstanding video bro. I am really excited too playthrough the game and too discover which classes works well with each character and these sets of videos has gotta ton of really useful and awesome information :-D thanks man 👍.
Just did 9999x 4 damage with Cyrus and one shotted Gareth's Boss. You use Alephan's Enlightenment (Cyrus ulti which makes all his AOE spells Single target with increased multiplier), then you use Ophelia's Aelfric's Auspices (Skills performed twice with chosen ally), and any dancer's buff Peacock Strut to boost Cyrus's elemental damage even further.
My main character is Ophelia, so I equip her with Scholar as her second job, this way I will have a healer and scholar to check on vulnerability and remaining HP at any boss. This also get my Ophelia the 2 supportive skills: Saving Grace and Evasive Maneuvers. I equip Evasive Maneuvers to reduce random encounter when I finish grinding and ready to face the boss. Then switch to Saving Grace before facing Boss. My current progression: Finished all chapter 1, and Primrose's chapter 2. Currently about to face Tressa's chapter 2 boss.
Hey, on your video of who to pick (rogue side), I challenged myself to start off as Primrose. Well, as of right now (I sadly didn't have all the time in the world to play) I'm at chapter 2 of Therion's story with a full party and Primrose is my main magic damage dealer and ultra tanky somehow. I like to let Primrose do a self-buff setup and have the others break everyone, then I wipe out all enemies at once with Night Ode at something close to 3000 damage to everyone. And those numbers were on Level 19. Admittedly, I immediately went for a mostly physical character (Therion) after Primrose's prologue, but he hasn't even come close to closing the gap in damage output between himself and Primrose yet. The reason for all of that is, of course, overgrinding in Primrose's prologue and blatant favoratism in terms of equipment, but it's working out rather well right now with a mostly magic based party :D
I honestly feel like people have there own needs with this game.. I used ophelia with rune. Cyrus with sorcerer thief with the single healer guy. And primose with seestar or w.e its called
I have a question. Does the character you picked at the beginning of the game affect which second job classes you pick for the other characters? For example, I started with the Scholar (Cyrus) and since he has to be in the party, does it make sense to use Scholar as a second job class for the other members since his abilities will always be there? Thanks for any help you can give on this question.
Maybe we could redo this video but with merchant and thief not being an option for every. single. character. You know, since only a couple of characters can equip them at once.
Good to know! I don’t use the warrior job class much, because I’m heavy spellcasting on this play through, but I’m going to give it a shot! Thanks for the heads up.
Great video! I've been trying to decide whether I should add the Merchant class to Cyrus or Therion. Cyrus already has such strong elemental attacks, the wind element would fit perfectly with him. But giving Therion the option to Donate both SP and BP would make him such a great supportive unit. Which do you think I should go with?
If not going to use Cyrus you almost need to use scholar on prim? But then without alfyn you don't have the path action.. if I use my fav 4 I find I don't have all path actions.
Olberic is my protagonist and I think he is probably a little over powered because when buffed his Holy attack could max damage enemys in chapter 2. Im in chapter 3 right now, he is level 45 and he has 500 attack
what are the nuts for are they permanent hp boost or temporay im ashamed to say im 45 hours n and havent messed with my magic nuts LOL or my essence stuff like pomegranite
Having picked Therion for my primary traveler, I found it was good to set his secondary job as hunter. It provides him decent stat buffs as well as giving him access to four weapon types and two elements, but additionally the hunter support skills really feel in line with his character. I especially like second serving for him and am working to unlock patience.
So when you do you unlock secondary classes? I'm playing my third characters opening story now (chose H'aanit first then found Cyrus and Ophelia). Is it when you get all eight?
I’ve just got this game a couple of days ago due to bad shipping (AMAZON) lol and I was wondering can you change your secondary job I just rather find out instead of finding it out the hard way thanx 🙂
Liam Garside yeah they’re interchangeable. And you can use any secondary support skill you’ve learned on that character without having the class equipped.
Just because of that she could be used in other ways Like you said you assume that no other characters are on my team otherwise the sub class ideas are endless
Helpful video! Also I kinda got a question if anyone can answer. I started with H’aanit the hunter but I grabbed everyone so I didn’t leave anyone behind and wanted to experience their stories, was this a bad decision of me? c:
Luigipokemaster 1, I did the same exact thing. Experiencing everyone’s stories is the best way to level up without grinding! Also, once you complete your main party member’s story, you can swap them out of your party. So if you don’t like H’annit, don’t worry!
Wishful Thinking Channel oh that’s awesome to hear! And I subbed as well, looking forward to more amazing videos! :D Edit: I do like H’aanit, I just feel like I over leveled her a bit too much haha 😅
Im using ophilia with scholar second class....with passives elemental augmentation ...inner strength....second wind....sp saver...with accessory and staff ...i got 669 elemental ATTACK...and with that i can cast anyspell for free except heal more(cost 1sp) and revive/aelfrics auspices since i get 11sp back each turn witch basicly gives me unlimitied sp with her and very strong healing and damaging spells for free ... my other party members setups are replies to this post
Primrose with apothecary second job...passives resist ailments...eye for an eye...second wind and encore.. so i can buff others and heal when needed and have basicly unlimited sp with her too as i get 7sp back each turn and her buffs cost 4
With olberic currently using thief second class but gonna change that later...passives eye for an eye.... summon strength... endure.... and second wind..... i gain back 12 sp a turn so i can use most of his skills for free why attack one creature with a sword attack when i can hit all of them with level slash and gain 3sp while doing it......and with 222sp i can use his higher cost sp skills alot and instead of using items to gain sp back i just use lower sp skills for a bit and gain it back
Tressa with hunter second class and passives second serving... grows on trees... second wind...sp saver i get 5 sp back per turn with her current 100sp so i can use alot of her skills for free and when i use high sp skills too much i can rest or just use some normal attacks and deal some damage and get sp back
This gives me decent weapons diversity overall and one char that has light...fire...lightning.....and ice spells one of each the others with lightning fire and ice spell one with dark spells and one with wind spells.... and instead of using basic attacks to find weaknesses i just use skill that hit all of the enemies to find all there weaknessess faster since i can cast them for free sp effectively in ophilia case i use the cheaper spells that hit all enemies and gain sp back more then spent..always using special attacks rather then regular attacks makes more damage output faster breaks on enemeys and insane sustainability
Got alot of options....and can do crazy stuff like currently with olberic hp steal.....if the enemy is weak to daggers thats 2 hits closer to breaking the enemy .. dealing some damage healing me and i gain 12sp so i effectively gain 6sp instead of spending 6sp and gain a boost point all in one action....
Sorry! I don’t usually take that long in between videos, been on vacation in Florida without my microphone, was gonna use my iPhone headphones but the sound quality was sooooo bad! Thanks for sticking with me anyways!
Cyrus' class recommendations here are god awful. You don't want your damage dealer wasting turns being a healer or support character. You want them dealing damage.
Wait..... you're making a UA-cam help vid but don't know the benefit of Surpassing Damage? You should have already been surpassing 9,999 damage long ago if ya know what yer doing.
Primrose has awful Elemental Defense, thus she does not make a very good Cleric. Shame though cus it would fit her well as a support character. She makes a much better Scholar as she has very high Elemental Attack. It's insane that you wouldn't recommend that class for her. Awful, awful video, worst I've seen yet from you.
Cyrus: 1:35
Therion: 6:12
H'aanit: 7:56
Primrose: 9:30
Thank you so much for this! I thought I'd already done it, but I was thinking about Part One! I appreciate it, buddy :)
Andrew Craig s
Base subjobs only:
Primrose - Scholar (Second Wind means spamming high damage magic free)
H'aanit - Thief (High damage AoE, Steal SP allows spamming)
Olberic - Apothecary (Self healing for Challenges, inspiration for spamming)
Tressa - Warrior (Sidestep + Encite)
Therion - Hunter (reverse H'aanit)
Cyrus - Cleric (High Magic Defense means good healing, Light damage)
Alfyn - Merchant (Donate BP bot, Sidestep during bosses so I can always Vivify)
Ophilia - Dancer (Buff bot)
Therion with warrior and high evasion is the greatest thing ever for melee damage.
TeamRamTodd Put Incite on him and watch him Dodge. Lul
Brian Arguello ohh yeah all day. He's a beast!!
He becomes a dancer in a different sense :)
While the information was helpful, I kept getting lost as what is being said, and shown in the video, aren't the same
I think it’s a terrible idea to wait until 20 for a secondary job simply because you lose nothing by going into it
And you can get skills for both at the same time
So there is no reason to really wait
Cyrus with dancer is pretty damn good as well. Both hp and sp get healed each round
People please make therion a warrior. He becomes an evasive tank who can use incite to tank for the whole team. Level slash gives him a powerful Aoe attack that can be used for breaking. And the 50 strength plus surpassing power. Ive been doing 25000 damage to everyone with an abided therion using aebers reckoning on an armor corrosive foe. I have never seen anyone do that much damage.
Edit:This is a level 40 therion btw
Please make therion an offensive tank rather than another support. If you want a support use tressa, ophillia, prim or alfyn.
I feel like therion is better with runelord, since therion mostly uses normal attacks/armor/attack debuffs. Tressa is a good support role but also a great offensive character because if you spam veteran soldiers like i do, you can do a lot of damage with Tressa
ReaperZGaming well im talking about the normal subjobs here. I havent even got to the advanced jobs yet. Im just saying that until you reach the advanced jobs(which will be a long while) you should use warrior therion as it kicks ass.
True that
@b except for the sercet job bosses... Those are the most inflexible and mind boggling bosses in the game... Your stats or a particular party doesn't help at all and you are forced to follow a pattern instead which is frustrating
Therion is so well rounded that he becomes garbage with everything, he can do anything, but other characters do the job better.
The dancer job is insanely good with clerics and scholars because of second wind. Getting an SP boost every turn is OP
I use Therion as a thief/warrior, which makes him an incredibly powerful character, essentially making him a speedy heavy hitter. With incite he can practically dodge everything.
Primrose as a scholar is a beast access to dark, ice, fire and lightning is good coverage. The mp regen is a great skill for all the casters.
I have Primrose as a Scholar so far it's not bad.
Agreed. People look at Primrose's skill list and write her off as a buffer, but they fail to realize her elemental attack stat is nearly as high as Cyrus, with enough speed to break enemy defenses at the beginning of the round instead of the end. And after you unlock Sorcerer, Cyrus doesn't gain nearly as much by doubling down with more of the same types of spells that he already has.
Yea I like Cyrus as a merchant but I will dip in Dancer to gain SP every turn. I like that he can hit wind and then I have Ophellia as a dancer so she covers light and dark spells. But Primrose is like my back up black mage and so far she's my third or fourth best character.
Same here. Scholar Primrose is a TERRIFYING spellcaster early- to mid-game. Can't wait until I unlock Sorcerer for her.
I decided to check this combo out for myself, and I must say I’m impressed! Thanks for the heads up!
No problem man. That's for the nice guide on classes
Primrose makes an amazing scholar too. I use her buffs until I get enough bp to obliterate everything in one hit. Prim has a little bit less eATK than cyrus, but she has better speed which I like
at level 100 (without items equipped) Cyrus only has 28 more Elemental attack than either Primrose or Ophilia. In speed Primrose has 114 more than Cyrus.
Closing the elemental gap is way easier than trying to get Cyrus to match Primrose in speed.
Easily breaking damage cap with Therion’s Divine. 12-20k on average
Primrose...starting character and I made her an odd one
I gave her the Warrior Secondary Job, a supporter with massive power behind her strikes, it actually works very well with how I sticked with it
Therion, Apothecary with ace, a speedy healer and a hand in hand strategising core with Warrior Pimrose, helps deny tricky status debuffing bosses
Therion can become REALLY good when used correctly! If you give him the merchant as his second, not only can he rest now, but he can also use steal sp! Combined with share sp if another gets low, that’s very useful. Plus, with high attack power, your getting a LOT of sp for every steal sp you use. Of course with super high evasion, 50% of the time he won’t even get hit, which makes him not have to heal most of the time, again saving sp!
I have Cyrus as dancer, Ophelia as apothecary, Tressa as cleric, and Olberic as thief, and the coverage is great. I know this is the wrong video, but Tressa is amazing as a cleric because she gets the 50% SP cost reduction, which means the big party heal only costs 12, and full party revive is only 25
Good picks! Glad you found something that works :)
I made Ophelia finish the dancer skill line and then rushed the merchant skills for the 50% SP reduction
The build I've been going with is
Ophilla/dancer
H'annit/warrior
Primrose/scholar
Olberic/apothecary
I'm not that far in only completed prim and ophilla's chapter 2s but it's working better than my previous setup which was
Ophilla/apothecary
H'aanit/warrior
Cyrus/merchant
Prim/theif
I actually disagree that Primrose is” the ultimate buff character”
Because she can only do one buff per turn which is not a problem for random encounters but in boss battles it sucks and it takes too long to get buffs up on everyone.
And getting her to a point where she can buff your entire party in one go (via dancer divine skill) either takes 7 turns of waiting/doing other action to save boost points, or 2 turns while expending 2 other character’s turns to use resources on her.
I feel like the dancer (main or sub) is best at boosting/buffing itself rather then trying to buff your party and it’s great on characters/classes that already have a near perfect kit and just need a way to get some extra damage or survivability.
If you care about the opinion I’ve come to based on what I’ve tested, I’d say the best 2nd job picks for everyone in octopath is:
Primrose - Scholar/Thief/Sorcerer/Starseer/Runelord
Therion - Cleric/Warrior/Merchant/Hunter/Starseer/Warmaster/Sorcerer/RuneLord/Apothecary
Alfyn - Cleric/Merchant/Dancer/Thief
Tressa - Hunter/Warrior/Scholar/Runelord/Warmaster/Thief
Cyrus - Merchant/Dancer/Starseer/Cleric
H’aanit - Warrior/Warmaster/Dancer
Olberic - Warmaster/Runelord/Cleric/Apothecary/Thief
Ophelia - Starseer/Apothecary/Sorcerer
I can explain these choices, if anyone cares to know.
I know that I’m not some popular youtuber or analyst that people care to hear the opinions of.
Why not Sorceror on Cyrus?
Wesley Anthonisz
Mostly because Sorc doesn’t do anything that Cyrus’s base kit doesn’t already do.
All sorc does on Cyrus is make his base job useless by giving an extra hit on the elements he already has, and gives him access to Light/Dark/wind All of which can be gotten from other jobs that give other and better benefits.
And sorc gives Magic crit, but crits are
only a 25% DMG increase and Cyrus has no issue hitting the dmg cap without crits.
Merchant allows him to be self sufficient in his mana consumption and regeneration and cure himself of status effects not named silence while giving him a bit of utility and 2 more break options in the physical weapons merchant provides plus access to Wind magic.
Dancer allows him to buff himself or allies in 4 different areas, gives access to dark magic and daggers while also providing some MUCH needed speed and evasion.
Starseer’s base skill allows him to hit all 3 of the elements he’s missing at one time, and provides BP battery utility and regen for long fights.
I could go on if you want me to explain each class in detail, but the short is Sorc doesn’t provide him anything he needs out side of access to Light/Dark/Wind all of which can be obtained from other sources with better utility.
What if i were to make Cyrus my main Damage, by using the break damage limit skill from warrior class in conjunction with high elem attack and the other elem boosting skills?
Still better of doing other stuff i assume
Wesley Anthonisz
More or less the same, but I suppose that Sorc could be faster at killing things due to getting 3 hits out of his spells instead of 1-2.
But I’m unsure if it’s really needed, I also advise against having once source of DMG and that source is magic...
Magic can be reflected by some later bosses.
My interest is piqued by how you seem to have Tressa as a magic caster. What reason is that for?
I have an olberic with all evasive gear with cleric as his secondary job. So OP
LOL you could have just made his video 5 seconds saying PATH ACTION COUNTERPARTS, THIEF, AND MERCHANT. But I’m glad you didn’t! Love the take you have on games like this. You’re so articulate, it’s a breath of fresh air. I hope we get more speculation videos soon!
Make Me Play This made me laugh harder than I should have. You’re right! I wasted my time! lol
Another good one for ha'nit is apothecary... having last stand in her arsenal is very solid
So the “TL;DR” is if in doubt, use the counterpart to the character lol. I think that’s what I’m going to do. It does make sense for people who don’t try or care to find out max potential combos. Especially early on
Yeah, but doing that leaves you with 4 characters that are just copies. If tressa's a thief and therion's a merchant, then you just have two of the exact same characters
Merchant Primrose is a Support Goddess. With her high speed she can just BP up allies at the best times, then when she is finally ready you use the Dancer Divine skill. Give it to herself for massive boosts for the party, Or give it to a Cleric and have them mass cast Magic Reflectors and watch as magic based bosses start killing themselves. As a scholar she basically helps Nuke the board super fast as a Magic Sweeper.
Cyrus is terrible with Axes/Inspiration since his strength is the lowest in the party.
H'annit warrior is very versatile because she now has a divine damage skill for both single and multi-target. Abide also gives her the ability to self-buff her strength which she can't normally do.
I am using Primrose as a scholar and her initial elemental attack stat is already quite high. Equip her with the right gear and watch the high numbers roll. Second Wind allows her to gain SP every turn (great for a Scholar), and once able to add in SP Saver from the merchant class, and you basically never have to worry about SP again.
Many are saying this, I’m surprised I didn’t anticipate how amazing she is as an attacker. I finished Cyrus’s story and swapped him out for primrose/scholar and I’m super impressed so far.
I use
Therion - Scholar
Olberic - Hunter
Ophelia - Apothecary (for that ultimate heals)
But I also have my Cyrus and I don't know what would be the best for him considering the rest of my team
I got Therion with apothecary sub job, when he is in 1 hp he can do 20k dmg aoe (he has advance passive to allow mx dmg) since he is fast, he will attack first almost always. when fully bp and break he can do 99 999 dmg.
Thief Cyrus is my personal faveorite early/mid game class clmbo :3 i find the Cyrus Cleric to be too obvious and slow like you mentioned. I even tried merch and dancer, keep coming back to thief
i use :
Therion - Merchant (wind just to help breaking enemies - hitter - enemy breaker - pilferer)
Olberic - Hunter (hitter - tanker - and also enemy breaker)
Cyrus - Apothecary (have thunder - can high-heal a single ally while stacking up BP before hitting with magic)
Ophilia - Dancer (have both light and dark element - myriad of supports and importantly magic buff for Cyrus)
previously i used Warrior on Therion, the Incite skill is really good as enemies will hit him just to miss almost all the time)
Originally I just had noble be there rogue counterpart (example, Tressa Therion). Now I am switching things up. Right now for grinding, I have a merchant Prim, a warrior Tressa, a thief Han, and a scholar Ophil. In the tavern are a Cleric Cy, a medic Olb. The other are classless right now.
Recommending that someone train in a specific class to gain the support skills is one thing, but to recommend that class long term for a character is another. This should be specified.
Like for Cyrus training as a Merchant. He WANTS SP Saver, but there are certainly better long term class recommendations for him
For the 99999 damage skill, I’m doing 22k+ in a single hit with olberic: str boost, armour down, and divine skill at level 36
Silver DAMN! What damage do you do without the 99999 damage skill?
Wishful Thinking Channel it caps at 9999
Silver I recently got 9999 damage with H'aanit. Strength buff from soldier and her default special.
Damn silver, ur doing 22k+ at level 36?? I only reached that point at around level 45
ReaperZGaming depends on weapons and accessories too I suppose, I do have the forbidden sword...so kinda OP
Very well made content. Subscribed good sir
Interesting combinations, some more obvious than others. May I speak out a wish for another video? In that case I'd like to see a video or two about party combinations (perhaps pre and post second class) That would be so awesome!!
Another outstanding video bro. I am really excited too playthrough the game and too discover which classes works well with each character and these sets of videos has gotta ton of really useful and awesome information :-D thanks man 👍.
Just did 9999x 4 damage with Cyrus and one shotted Gareth's Boss. You use Alephan's Enlightenment (Cyrus ulti which makes all his AOE spells Single target with increased multiplier), then you use Ophelia's Aelfric's Auspices (Skills performed twice with chosen ally), and any dancer's buff Peacock Strut to boost Cyrus's elemental damage even further.
i have Therion with hunter and is a lot of fun focus on damage he is fast and hits pretty hard
My main character is Ophelia, so I equip her with Scholar as her second job, this way I will have a healer and scholar to check on vulnerability and remaining HP at any boss. This also get my Ophelia the 2 supportive skills: Saving Grace and Evasive Maneuvers. I equip Evasive Maneuvers to reduce random encounter when I finish grinding and ready to face the boss. Then switch to Saving Grace before facing Boss.
My current progression: Finished all chapter 1, and Primrose's chapter 2. Currently about to face Tressa's chapter 2 boss.
I’m excited for you! This is where the game really picks up!
My set up
Olberic : Warrior
Cyrus : Scholar
Tressa : Merchant
Ophelia : Cleric
Primrose : Dancer
Alfyn : Apothecary
Therion : Thief
H'aanit : Hunter
Hey, on your video of who to pick (rogue side), I challenged myself to start off as Primrose. Well, as of right now (I sadly didn't have all the time in the world to play) I'm at chapter 2 of Therion's story with a full party and Primrose is my main magic damage dealer and ultra tanky somehow.
I like to let Primrose do a self-buff setup and have the others break everyone, then I wipe out all enemies at once with Night Ode at something close to 3000 damage to everyone. And those numbers were on Level 19.
Admittedly, I immediately went for a mostly physical character (Therion) after Primrose's prologue, but he hasn't even come close to closing the gap in damage output between himself and Primrose yet.
The reason for all of that is, of course, overgrinding in Primrose's prologue and blatant favoratism in terms of equipment, but it's working out rather well right now with a mostly magic based party :D
Therion isn't the best character for damage anyways. He is a thief, not a warrior nor assassin.
I honestly feel like people have there own needs with this game.. I used ophelia with rune. Cyrus with sorcerer thief with the single healer guy. And primose with seestar or w.e its called
Same I find cyrus more fitting with sorcerer
I have a question. Does the character you picked at the beginning of the game affect which second job classes you pick for the other characters? For example, I started with the Scholar (Cyrus) and since he has to be in the party, does it make sense to use Scholar as a second job class for the other members since his abilities will always be there? Thanks for any help you can give on this question.
Maybe we could redo this video but with merchant and thief not being an option for every. single. character. You know, since only a couple of characters can equip them at once.
well i commented on the last video, but i feel there is more missed potential here. so ii'm offering my 2 bits
Start playing few days ago. Qusetion: Can the characters got hidden jobs after getting secondary jobs?
The wait is on for part 3! :)
Just subbed, great info and nice sounding voice.
Great info! Thx
Olberic's divine skill is INSANE. At higher levels you'll be consistently one shotting even bosses. It's crazy strong
Good to know! I don’t use the warrior job class much, because I’m heavy spellcasting on this play through, but I’m going to give it a shot! Thanks for the heads up.
I like how you spent 5 minutes with 3 different jobs suggestions for Cyrus, then spent only 1 minute for Therion, H'annit, and Primrose each.
My therion is a hunter for debuffs and the random arrow hits to break single targets that are weak to bow
For Therion, I'm thinking Merchant. Steal their money, AND their items!
Thx m8 I was waiting for this
There isn't really any reason to wait til Level 20 to get these, other than the areas they are acquired in being more dangerous.
My main character was therion and I gave him the scholar secondary job and it was lit.
Sir Groucho I did the opposite. Those classes pair decently well together.
Congrats on 1,000 subs and great video
Great video! I've been trying to decide whether I should add the Merchant class to Cyrus or Therion. Cyrus already has such strong elemental attacks, the wind element would fit perfectly with him. But giving Therion the option to Donate both SP and BP would make him such a great supportive unit. Which do you think I should go with?
1:31 Wait! What!? You can use support skills from other classes without equipping the job? does it work with magic?
Abra........ Cadabra?
Wait I already knew about support skills, I was under the impression you said that you could use normal skills from other classes.
Benschachar oh, no. I thought you were being sarcastic! Lol. Only supports
If not going to use Cyrus you almost need to use scholar on prim? But then without alfyn you don't have the path action.. if I use my fav 4 I find I don't have all path actions.
Damn i know about this and im aware they will get OP. But can i just pick what Job they really meant to be? I hate cross job hehee
Olberic is my protagonist and I think he is probably a little over powered because when buffed his Holy attack could max damage enemys in chapter 2. Im in chapter 3 right now, he is level 45 and he has 500 attack
Me: watching a secondairy job guide
Also me: choose random job because i like the outfit change.
Damn, my kind
what are the nuts for are they permanent hp boost or temporay im ashamed to say im 45 hours n and havent messed with my magic nuts LOL or my essence stuff like pomegranite
Anything that isn't equipment is temporary
Having picked Therion for my primary traveler, I found it was good to set his secondary job as hunter. It provides him decent stat buffs as well as giving him access to four weapon types and two elements, but additionally the hunter support skills really feel in line with his character. I especially like second serving for him and am working to unlock patience.
Funny, I was putting H’annit as a Thief Secondary for a while for this same reason!
So when you do you unlock secondary classes? I'm playing my third characters opening story now (chose H'aanit first then found Cyrus and Ophelia). Is it when you get all eight?
Griffnix at any time! The shrines are just hidden. I put footage of the location of each classes secondary job class in both videos if it helps!
I’ve just got this game a couple of days ago due to bad shipping (AMAZON) lol and I was wondering can you change your secondary job I just rather find out instead of finding it out the hard way thanx 🙂
Liam Garside yeah they’re interchangeable. And you can use any secondary support skill you’ve learned on that character without having the class equipped.
Wishful Thinking Channel thanks a lot keep up the great vids
I'm making prim a scholar it just balances my team better
Just because of that she could be used in other ways
Like you said you assume that no other characters are on my team otherwise the sub class ideas are endless
Honestly, there is zero reason to ever use the HP+500 support skill over Saving Grace, for pretty obvious reasons.
Helpful video! Also I kinda got a question if anyone can answer. I started with H’aanit the hunter but I grabbed everyone so I didn’t leave anyone behind and wanted to experience their stories, was this a bad decision of me? c:
Luigipokemaster 1, I did the same exact thing. Experiencing everyone’s stories is the best way to level up without grinding! Also, once you complete your main party member’s story, you can swap them out of your party. So if you don’t like H’annit, don’t worry!
Wishful Thinking Channel oh that’s awesome to hear! And I subbed as well, looking forward to more amazing videos! :D
Edit: I do like H’aanit, I just feel like I over leveled her a bit too much haha 😅
is scholar a good pick for Primrose?
Why not have the damage spell/dancer combo
Im using ophilia with scholar second class....with passives elemental augmentation ...inner strength....second wind....sp saver...with accessory and staff ...i got 669 elemental ATTACK...and with that i can cast anyspell for free except heal more(cost 1sp) and revive/aelfrics auspices since i get 11sp back each turn witch basicly gives me unlimitied sp with her and very strong healing and damaging spells for free ... my other party members setups are replies to this post
Primrose with apothecary second job...passives resist ailments...eye for an eye...second wind and encore.. so i can buff others and heal when needed and have basicly unlimited sp with her too as i get 7sp back each turn and her buffs cost 4
With olberic currently using thief second class but gonna change that later...passives eye for an eye.... summon strength... endure.... and second wind..... i gain back 12 sp a turn so i can use most of his skills for free why attack one creature with a sword attack when i can hit all of them with level slash and gain 3sp while doing it......and with 222sp i can use his higher cost sp skills alot and instead of using items to gain sp back i just use lower sp skills for a bit and gain it back
Tressa with hunter second class and passives second serving... grows on trees... second wind...sp saver i get 5 sp back per turn with her current 100sp so i can use alot of her skills for free and when i use high sp skills too much i can rest or just use some normal attacks and deal some damage and get sp back
This gives me decent weapons diversity overall and one char that has light...fire...lightning.....and ice spells one of each the others with lightning fire and ice spell one with dark spells and one with wind spells.... and instead of using basic attacks to find weaknesses i just use skill that hit all of the enemies to find all there weaknessess faster since i can cast them for free sp effectively in ophilia case i use the cheaper spells that hit all enemies and gain sp back more then spent..always using special attacks rather then regular attacks makes more damage output faster breaks on enemeys and insane sustainability
Got alot of options....and can do crazy stuff like currently with olberic hp steal.....if the enemy is weak to daggers thats 2 hits closer to breaking the enemy .. dealing some damage healing me and i gain 12sp so i effectively gain 6sp instead of spending 6sp and gain a boost point all in one action....
so i made therion a hunter for all the debuffs and the crits is that good
LOL how is Merchant more attack based than Thief? This could not be more false.
Lol why would you NOT count Light & Dark as elements?😅 How silly.
Why are they called the rogues? Especially Cyrus
im 2 years late but they’re called rogue because their party actions can lower your reputation as opposed to the noble characters who do not do that
A beginner praying for help. A video of weapons for beginners 😂😂.
Do we have to pick a sub class?
Nah, go vanilla bro.
Literally all characters should have Saving Grace.
YAY FINALLY
I couldn't wait any longer and just equiped secondary jobs myself but I'll still enjoy this
Sorry! I don’t usually take that long in between videos, been on vacation in Florida without my microphone, was gonna use my iPhone headphones but the sound quality was sooooo bad! Thanks for sticking with me anyways!
Oh it's fine😅, I used the noble counterparts anyways, but I still enjoyed the video nonetheless
make tressa the warrior or olberic the merchant then incite and sidestep to be the best tank in the game
Cyrus' class recommendations here are god awful. You don't want your damage dealer wasting turns being a healer or support character. You want them dealing damage.
PART THREE: ua-cam.com/video/jszcLc0S3bg/v-deo.html
SP Saver (Merchant Support) + Second Wind (Dancer Support) = OP Scholar Cyrus
Its really the only way to make him viable further into the game as his spells become too costly to spam as much as you'd lile
Wow.
All my characters are like level 80.. I no lifes this game
Lifed**
Wait..... you're making a UA-cam help vid but don't know the benefit of Surpassing Damage? You should have already been surpassing 9,999 damage long ago if ya know what yer doing.
The recommendations for both Cyrus & Therion here r just awful. Therion should be your Hunter.
The recommendations in this vid are seriously horrible.
Primrose has awful Elemental Defense, thus she does not make a very good Cleric. Shame though cus it would fit her well as a support character.
She makes a much better Scholar as she has very high Elemental Attack. It's insane that you wouldn't recommend that class for her. Awful, awful video, worst I've seen yet from you.
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