AKAI HARDWARE SAMPLER BATTLE S3000XL VS S2000
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I haven't seen any videos on this so I thought id does a definitive sound test.
In this video, we test out the sound on two AKAI samplers the S2000 Vs The S3000
See if you can tell the best Akai sampler between the two or the difference when I put these vintage samplers to the test on some good old old skool programming. not many samplers after the s612 did this.
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Really wanted these two back in the day....when I turned 50yrs old, I filled a rack with 900, 950, 1000, 1100, 3000, 3200xl....I used the excuse my Son was studying DJ and Music Production at University, but really it was a dream come true for me, and truly appreciate having them.....It was decades of waiting, but boy do I appreciate them, probably more to be honest....Love this channel, a real inspiration, and down to earth....I wish everyone was as kind and enthusiastic as this wonderful guy :-)
Hi mate
I’m 15 and I just bought an s2000 thanks to your vids and Pete cannon
Having loads of fun with it so far!
Big ups junglist massive
Nice!!
Top stuff man, thats nice to hear man! do send me some tunes once there done!
the difference is night and day!!
s2000 has a much more analogue warm sound to me
just kiddin, I mean, it's super close really, like a 0.1% difference maybe, apparently the innards are the same, same sound engine /A2D D2A converters etc, s2000 came out 1995, s3000XL came out 1997 so any difference will be..... well, tiny.
just my opinion though.
The S3000XL, S2000 and S3200XL actually came out at exactly the same time in 1995! You're right about the internals though, they've all got the exact same converters inside.
@@acidtechno Same here!
The main thing with s3000 for me is the big screen for editing is a godsend.
They should sound the same the S2000 and S3000XL use the same board, S2k is like a budget version with limited interface and missing some of the options of the S3kXL.
The S3200XL had optional MO or HDD. Apparently the S3200 (non XL) from previous series is the one to have from Akais 16-bit samplers. There used to be really cool pic of all the S samplers in a rack and the keyboard next to it.
@mystical sapling wow that’s interesting I thought it was down to the engine not the power supplies
This video was so much fun Bizzy, awesome test track! I couldn't actually tell any difference between the two, they both sounded identical to each other. Brings back memories of my S2000 actually, it was my first sampler so it's awesome to see you own one! :D
S3200xl v S3000xl would put some rumours to bed.
are they not the same inside?
be curious to know. (and vs S2000 also)
cheers!~
You can use MESA 2 with both of them. Try it you'll see why.
I own both of these. My S2000 actually sounds a little warmer, yet crisper. I do love it, yet I use the 3000xl religiously instead. The screen really makes a big difference. Plus that's the one with all the expansion cards in it...
Thanks for this! I am shopping for an Akai and have been undecided between the S2000/S3000. I think this video helped me to make up my mind finally 👊🏽😎
Listened with headphones …. This is really looking to find somewhat of a difference and if you want to find it you will most likely find or ‘hear’ it …
I don’t believe their is a noticeable difference and if this was played in a Club and both machines were playing simultaniously and you would switch back and forth between both machines then NOBODY would ever hear the difference because it’s far too small to be noticed if your not looking.
Great comparison, big ups man !
i don't know about the comparison between... but i just recycled a good 808 kick sample and was blown away... is the real 808 sounding this good? i don't know... well? it sounds even better on my S2000...
LTJ Bunken got that sample from TR-808 for the bass
wonderfully superb and appreciable presentation on s3000 vs s2000
Thank you sir , you have a great channel!
cool and superb informative presentation
thanks for sharing
Big up Bizzy!! Still OG vibin man! Massive respect ✊
Cool one B, like your new snappy video edit stylee, big up
You're using the computer keyboard to trigger the samples. I dont think you can get velocity with the keyboard. And I think the tr909 has 3 velocity zones so I dont think you will be able to hear them like that. ❤
Hi, I have both S2000 and S3000Xl from new and you really cant tell the difference especially in a full track
Hey B, the title and description say you're comparing the S2000 and the S3000, but you're actually comparing the S2000 and the S3000XL. Plz do a comparison of the S2000 and the actual S3000 🙏🏽
It would also be nice to see an S3000 vs S3000XL video to see if the engines sound different.
If you put 909 files in the s2000 dont you think the envelopes need to match?? If i have piano envelopes that might wrong for drums???❤
Top video as per usual. I've got a similar midi box switch between Amiga or MPC, god send!
Thanks, tey are very handy!
I must say Bizzy..... Your videos have kept me going through lockdown! showing how to use octamed on the Amiga etc.. Its inspired me to get my old A600 out of the loft and use it again as I never made music on it before. Bought a copy of octamed 4 Pro and your vids have being very helpful and informative in how the program works. I have 2 akai S2000's one is maxed out apart from the eb16fx card. As you point out the s2000 has a unused area on the board saying s3000xl only. It can indeed feature a internal hard disk or Sd conversion inside by soldering a scsi connection on. I've being wanting to do this to one of mine but wondered if I could purchase a populated card with breaks to go in my machine that you have made as the software side of things really confuses me. Is there a website where you sell your sd cards and floppy emulators? Best regards, Nick.
Been missing ur videos man, bn outa way for a while. Probably got a lot of raking through all the videos ive missed haha
Aren’t the internal digital sound paths for both these machines identical, but the S2000 just has a cut down display? It’s the older S3000 that is different.
s2000 user for lifeeeee i love this lil thingy it can do ANYTHING.
but yea s2000 sounds slightly different than the s3000xl to me for some reason, like maybe the preamp has something to do with it bc it sounds slightly more compressed+high end feels slightly cut off, which kinda makes it sound heavier honestly and i love that. at the same time the difference is so minimal it's hard to tell if it's really there or if i'm just biased towards the s2000 lol. both sound classic as fuck to me tho, i've been wanting to get my hands on an s3000xl someday too. awesome video bizzy!
I'm not sure if you can use the 8out board and eb16 in the s2000 at the same time.
They are essentially the same sampler sharing the same main boards etc.... Just the s3000xl has a nice fancy screen. They both sound great. A timeless pair of classic samplers.
Good point! thanks for that, I hope all is good your end
@@TheBizzyBScience Cheerz Bizzy! All good in da hood.
Much love to ya' BizzyB love your tutorials on❤️🎹
They are literally the same sampler.
Amazing Collection, Regards Poland and Austria.
Cannot wait for you emu sampler video and any help going through a hardware mixer would help i.e do you use the submix outputs for separate faders on the mixer for processing separate kicks and snares
Thanks a lot for this video!! I'm a very new owner of s2000 and I can't even use it properly yet ;)
They sound very close to me. I'd pick the 3000XL over the 2000 not because of the sound but because it's much more user-friendly with that big screen
it make no sense to me how someone can justify spending £3,517.00 on a Allen and Heath Qu-32 mixer
who uses crappy budget monitors it would have made more sense spending the money on a decent pair of high end studio monitors that doesnt mask frequencies and has a fast transient response which is needed for drum&bass
You know, you've really got a point there. It's almost as if someone decided to focus on the heart of their studio setup, trusting the Allen and Heath Qu-32 to bring out the best in even the most modest monitors. Imagine the potential when I do upgrade to those high-end monitors you mentioned - the clarity and precision will just be out of this world, especially for those soulless drum & bass tracks that demand the best. It's like they're setting the stage for an epic sound evolution. Can't wait to hear how it turns out!BTW:Kiss my ass
hey dude! what software are u using? Looks like AMIGA Pro Tracker. Nice demo!
the 3000xl def has a bit more body and bass
Renoise kept asking me for a password the first time I installed it. Since formatting my system and reinstalling it, this problem no longer occurs. Seems that some people fixed this or a similar issue by moving the license file into the Applications folder. That's where it is located for me too at the moment. Good luck!
As for the sound: they sound very similar. I feel like the S2000 sounded a bit heavier on the bass, but that's probably just my imagination. I have an S3000XL myself!
78 with mine... go guys! Thumb UP!
S2000 is a bit darker and not as defined. S3000 is just a tad brighter, crisper and more clear. Very small difference and both can fly, depending on what the final, desired sound is. Any processing put onto either however, can really change things up further, or have them sound even more similar.
Not much in it TBH but if I had to call it the 3000 sound a tad brighter, and I mean ever so slightly it's almost unnoticeable. I would say the difference is due to one of two things, and improved engine via a different CPU, not sure if it's different or not, or a different or improve output stage or quality of components. Output stages are really obvious if you compare a MPC 3000 to a S3000 or an MPC 60 to a S950, there are technically the same engine but obviously the outputs stages have been tuned for drums on the MPC meaning there are darker and compressed.
nice...more curious if most DnB was done using a tracker program or Atari cubase and how. the "jumping/jump cuts" inside the sample when triggered is done...how can you get the same effect in a DAW...simply cutting the loop and rearranging gives the same effect i know, but it's as if it never really gives same sound. I guess big part is the pitch of the sample when speeded up/pitched etc. Is there a good video on this, then id. love to see :)
I'd say they sound the same, but the example is slightly volume mismatched
Great video!. I think the 3000 sounds a little cleaner. Quick question do you commonly use 20 steps in a sequence?. I usually see people use devisions of 16, was quite interesting to see that!
It’s hexadecimal two zero (1F base zero, 20 base 1), that’s actually 16 in decimal.
@@kikencorp ah ok cool!
I was just noticing i can drop wave files with the s2000 and i dont think i could do that with the s3000xl in mesa.
You can , as mesa works with wav files , I have used it on tge s3000 xl and 3200xl also
@@TheBizzyBScience I dont know for some reason I downloaded soundapp to convert wav to aiff. I thought my s3000xl did not read wav files and I had to convert all my wav files to aiff to see them on the g3. Well I think now the g3 does not see wav files but Mesa does. When you go to import files there arw 3 options. Aiff sc2?? And wav. So I guess I can import wav although the g3 does not see them.
Actually it sees something called realplayerfiles. It converts to realplayer. I never heard of them before.
Ok I try with the tr909 files and save to floppy on the s2000. 👍👍
I love my s2000
Do ypu use recycle at all to chop up samples and send them to the akai througb the midi?
I have used recycle for most of my 1994/5 music era. Before that I chopped beats manually
the s3000 sounds more wider abit louder in sound the s2000 has more mono sound flat sound , but they was both recorded in mono but was listen in headphones
Im not sure my tr909 samples sound as good as a real 909
I mean I've had a listen to various tr909s now that I've set up samples in the s2000 and done a little loop thing and it doesnt seem to be as good as a tr8s or a rd8 thingy. I think I may have done something wrong like used the wrong envelope or perhaps there should be different envelopes for each sample. And then there is normalization and possibly I need some compression as well!!! 🙄🙄🙄
I believe only the Akai samplers up to s900 and s950 have "a sound", if you use them to sample they will color the samples, specially going up and down the keyboard.
The s1000 absolutely has a sound.
the s2000 can load samples from the akai s950 if any one is still on floppy disks like me lol
do you know what rack can load mpc60 dicks?
Hey dude I've got a problem with my s3000xl maybe you can help me out? Do you see in the scsi settings? My s3000xl is set for scsi id 5 and the sampler id 6 but I try to set it to 7 because it's the end of the chain but every time I turn it on it resets to 6??? Is there a battery or something that I have to change because every time I turn it on I have to reset it??? Love the channel. ❤❤❤
I would set your scsi chain around your samplers default scsi id
@@TheBizzyBScience that doesnt work.
@@TheBizzyBScience yea I do that. I dont want to try to remember what number the zipdrive is every time I turn it on. I also have a s1000 on the chain a HD and two CD.
@@amonster8mymother I will upload a vid about my scsi setup , which works for me
Jungle Genious
funny i found your video looking for akai samplers and you are also an Amiga user
Oh cool!, thanks for watching
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No Difference to my ear . As my s3200 blew up few months back i discovered it's second filter board fitted the S 3000xl would you adam and eve it lol. ATB mate.
The Akai s2000 have a timestretch fumction?
Good question, yes it does , its the same as the s3000XL
i think the 2000 sounds great 😎🤘😎🤘😎🤘
Just bought these samples......my S2800 is singing as I type. Sounding fat!!
Thanks for your support matey!
Nobody gonna tell you but them beats is horrible,
The s2000 is faster.
E-mu yes please as have a couple of E4k's