While we really like the campaign and plan to continue to support it as our main focus, we think that these intermissions will help keep things fresh. Additionally, we are really excited for how each individual campaign will evolve as the Cold War scene gets more fleshed out. Let me know what you think.
you know enigma…i usually never comment but i really have to comment on this…thank you so so much for doing what you do…your server definitely made my dreams come true of being a cold war fighter pilot, and i think that all of the community agrees on that…just the insane amount of work you do for this server is truly inspiring…thank you enigma for making this amazing server and thank you, the awesome community for making our dreams come true. those modern planes might be good and more advanced but my god are cold war jets some sexy machines lol.
I really like the concept of having small intermission missions between the campaigns. I would really love to see a 1982 Falkland War intermission mission taking place on the South Atlantic map.
Please do a Korean war style map, like the event that was run on the server previously! With props, F-86, MiG15bis, and maybe the MiG17 and F100 when they come out. Although the F100 might be a bit advanced for my vision and if the AIM9B is available to the sabre then I think the MiG17 would at least give missile capability to red for, I am thinking no supersonic planes. It would provide some healthy competition to IL-2 with their announcement of Korea being their next installment.
The only thing I would suggest is consider including the FC3 planes in all scenarios. I disagree with removing the A-10/SU-25 from Cauc and would have instead limited the weapons on them in order to keep access to as many players as possible. Keep up the good work.
Exactly! Seems contadictive to talk about pay walls while removing some of the most affordable modules thus forcing people to buy new modules. I wonder who would benefit from that.
While I am not active player in MP (learning my A-4 in SP), I have to agree with the original comment. A-4 is a great module and free at that, but there is no equivalent on the red side - or at least to my knowledge. 🤷🏼 So, A-10 and Su-25 would really be awesome, IMO.
I really hope Kola makes it into the rotation when it comes out! It fits any era of Cold War and would be a nice way to balance desert vs non desert maps. Thanks for all of y’all’s hard work, ECW is a treasure to DCS.
This is exciting. Although I haven’t really been on sense the servers location changed to Europe. Looks like I might need to come back. Hopefully it isn’t too laggy. Also, @Enigma thank you for what you and your team do. You guys have set the foundation of what DCS full scale multiplayer should look like.
How come the F-15C isn't in the 80's campaign and limit it to carry the earlier aim7's? Seems odd, on a side note the '80s campaign seems a great place to put an m2000 module while I know technically it came out in the early 90s with it being fox1 only plane and all other planes at this time are fox3 it would be a nice addition to have a home to fly the mirage 2000 in a competitive environment vs a modern environment where its out classed. Just my two cents.
i think your making a big mistake with the 80's mission, it should be focused around the MiG-23 and F-4, and the MiG-29 and Mirage 2000 (and F-14) when it comes to air to air. the MiG-21 and F-5 just shouldn't be the main focus in the 80's, and i own both of them, dont make the 80's feel like the 70's
I totally understand what you're saying regarding maps. Sinai totally fits 70s and 80s Cold War, but maps are pretty expensive. And take up huge amounts of drive space.
Glad you guys are continuing to update and try new concepts. I wonder if as ecw ages and people burnout and need a break if the player population will be able to support 3 servers continuously (is it 3 servers or 1 with 3 missions?). Regardless I figure you guys are willing to change and adapt to whatever lessons become apparent.
I think you should introduce a campaign/intermission that is Mid 80s cold war NATO/Warsaw pact in the Caucasus mountains. This makes 2 grass maps/2 desert maps so it’s a bit more even to fit everybody’s tastes.
I am one of those cash-strapped players who's reliant on the base maps and the A4 - if a financial barrier to entry is a concern, why not use the Marianas map for one of the three (four?) scenarios? It might not be ideal, but is it an option? Thanks for all you do for the server and the community, hugely grateful!
Thanks for the updates, really like the evolution. Would love to see the 1950 intermission back in the mix as well, that was a real vibe. Jugs dogfighting Sabres, chefs kiss
Yeah the 1950s-early 1960s is REALLY underserviced in "Cold War" content. It enables some WW 2 a/c to join in and has some very fun possibilities, but I get it... there's only so many modules in game so far and not a lot of players have them... but damn can that be FUN! There's just something compelling about the subsonic regime, where the T/W ratios are lower, the speeds are within a tighter window (a good "bounce" can enable slower planes to catch faster) and it's just more bare bones and raw. Even the A-10, MB-339 and Harrier could be possible (although limited) if the options are limited (no AAM really evens the playing field a lot! A harrier vs a sabre really is a tough fight if JUST using guns!)
Ok I need to work on my CW planes and get use to flying them. I usually don't fly Multi but I think this is the year I will. Have you made a "Getting Started" video for ECW? Besides getting connected, what other programs would a person need? Like a voice chat server, etc. I will see you in the skies soon.
Really love the UA-cam content! I keep meaning to hop on to the server and try out DCS multiplayer. Trouble is I'm currently not very good with any DCS aircraft, and I'm not familiar with the ins and outs of how to play. Do you think it's possible you might create a short, 'server ettiquette' video in the future to prime newcomers? If not, no problem, I'll just have to get over my anxiety of playing 'wrong' while I learn haha. Thanks Enigma!
I really like the idea of the PG map, however I was wondering or hoping it would be a geopolitical backstory driven campaign like you could make an Iran/Iraq war scenario set in an alternate timeline. And here it's not just generic blue vs red but proper use of factions and coalitions. For instance you can divide Iran into 2, and give the western side to Iraq, Russia, China etc. with Iraq being the main faction here and China/Russia being supporting factions. Iraq can have most of their planes, aka Mig-21, 19, 23 when it comes out, 29, Mirage F-1 along with some Hips and Hinds of course. Some of the supporting faction aircraft can be there too like Russian Su-25s, L-39s, Chinese Mig-19s, Mi-8s etc. As for Blue of course Iran being the main faction here, F-86, F-5, F-4 when it comes out and limited number of F-14As! There can be supporting planes here as well eg American F-4s, F-5s, even Saudi F-5s and F-86s, and you can also add UAE MB-339s here for good measure. Iran also has the Huey so that's another plus! I really think this is a massive missed opportunity and should be worth a try at least! Please see what can be done
Are you going to be doing a Korean War-era campaign set as well (eventually)? One that includes both first-gen (and perhaps even early second-gen) jets as well as the tail end of prop planes (so the WWII warbirds + early jets like MiG-15, F-86, and F9F mod)...?
I am currently cash trapped and cannot even afford modules as I'm stuck with the default Su-25T, and I don't know how I will be able to get in ECW, but already you keeping the map Caucasus already puts it on the prority list, thanks for understanding the community and being so generous.
On top the the fantastic and very fun A-4 community module you can buy The SU-25A for like $7.50 USD right now as you cant use a SU-25T in the cold war.
Same here! 😓 Also, I love A-4 mod, but there is nothing like it on the red side. 🤷🏼 Edit: I'm saving for Hotas, modules and maps are off the chart for some time.
I would love if we could have more mission time during dawn and dusk. Its an entirely different type of fight, especially in the latter when it gets darker and you identify targets via afterburners. Changes the whole atmosphere around the fight as well.
Part of the problem is that dawn missions rapidly turn to day, and dusk missions turn to night (at which point it's almost impossible to see, much less navigate and/or fight)
No the campaign is a curated experience and not a place for these modules that are too modern. Sorry. There has to be at least one server that does this outside the WWII servers
This sounds good. I am not a current player on enigma, but I like helicopters and the only server I have experience with is rotorheads. That site is unrealistic in that way too much AAA and not enough other targets. It’s nice to hone your skills but it’s like playing war thunder. It gives a lack of purpose sometimes
Dude. Please jump on. We need rotor boys in Enigma. We only have Gazel, Huey, Mi-8, and Mi-24 but fighting jets pushing the front might give you something refreshing to do.
Would it be possible to add p-51 to 1960’s ecw? It just seems like it would be fun flying at treetop level hiding from migs even if it’s not very effective
Great! I love how this server is developing, i have a few questions: -Why do you take some more time for the Korea and heli only intermissions? We already have a few events and they were pretty nice, as much as i remember. -Next i have a question about the timezone, if an intermission last four hours in the USA, people from Europe wont be able to partecipate because of timezones and viceversa, how is it possibile to resolve this? - Wouldn't it be cool if, for each intermission you guys decide the skins for each plane (can be one skin per plane or a few and the player decides which one to choose) and the armament, following historical accuracy? I'm really enjoying how this server is growing, both in numbers and quality. Keep it on, comrades
The time zone thing is not really something we can plan around. The intermissions are not the main focus, so they will come and go. In order for us to feel comfortable in experimenting with them, we have to limit how much they are on the server. Korea and helis will come eventually.
I'd definitely be interested in a Korea multiplayer mission. My favorite ww2 plane is the Corsair. However, really only play the game online pvp. It's not the correct Corsair for Korea, but that's no big deal. It's going to be 3-5 years until dcs will have a decently well fleshed out Pacific ww2 server I'm guessing. Even a once in a while place to fly the Corsair may be enough for me to buy it
I personally agree with your view that there are "pay walls" for maps wich splits the community BUT people mostly dont buy this maps bcs no popular servers OFFERS them and Support those maps so they just stay with the herd, It seems like people are stuck forever on cauc or syria and persian golf. And actually NOBODY can tell me that there are A TON of people who play this game arent willing to pay money if they allready buyed themself a module wich can be compared to an full price GAME in price point. DCS is no cheap hobby everybody who plays this or EVEN STARTS knows that straight from the beginning. I think that a lot more servers should have those new maps in rotation so people have an REASON to buy them.
Love the server. The only issue I have is it’s almost always full when I do get on.. and like many others my time for DCS in any day is very limited. A second server would be great, however I understand why splitting the players up to have two servers only half full is not as enjoyable, but if you think you could fill two then maybe worth considering?
please reconsider this. as you state that the beginning of the video, ecw is the go to server for cold war....if people need a break from it then they can go to a different server, one server does not need to provide everything. this is similar to what tempest did and it completely killed all fun on that server for me and my group that used to fly tempest daily, now tempest is boring as fuck to fly. and i cant help but see that's exactly the same road ecw going to end up going. I absolutely love yalls cold war server to the point iv been a patron. but i could not sit by and not speak my mind. some of my friends only have a couple days a week to fly, and if these 24 hr "intermissions" are landing on these days, which we all know that they will also seem to do, then that will be the end of our time on ecw.
Muy bien. Y los helicópteros cuando? Porque ahora son carne de cañón en el servidor, no te puedes defender y las distancias son aburridas. En Cáucaso por ejemplo los helicópteros sufren para volar sobre las montañas, y se hace muy aburrido el viaje. Hace falta más acción cercana.
i truly hope you will let the kiowa warrior in so i can fight hinds and other helis with the gau19 (if they add it) ive bought the hind the f5e and syria map so i can play on your servers soon (after my buddy tutors me the how tos) Heli pvp and dumb munition runs are what i love same goes for the F5E i share your passion about fluid and dynamic engagements that arent just bland MFD management the modern age is cool (i have the f18) but it gets old quick
Will F14 get its AIM-54 in the Persian Gulf 1980 scenario? Would be flavorful...
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If you ever add a 4th map, I hope it would not be another of those "DCS Grand Desert" maps. Maybe waiting for Kola Peninsula or Vietnam to come out, or using South Atlantic or Marianas.
The issue with that is that we have to create missions that can last and persist through resets and that makes thing so much more complex. If we find that people like these we can play around with things.
Thanks for the update Enigma! Are there any other plans of integrating any community planes into the mix? Are there any plans to have two campaigns running seperately in different servers?
1) There are no plans to integrate any more community planes. We are keeping close eye on the Cobra mod. In general people should automatically assume that we will not put something on the server and this extends to both modules and mods. 2) No. We would rather have one big server instead of two semi populated servers. Additionally, we do not have the time to support two servers.
@Enimga89 Having the option for maps to be licensed to server hosts is a very wise idea. Do you think that would be welcomed in subscription form by large server hosts, or would a single payment be preferred? Obviously, enforcing a license model on every server is a horrible idea, subscription-based or not. Some people just want to play with their crew, and I'm sure ED wouldn't want to punish them for doing so. Considering that larger servers already have recurring hosting payments, and that modern businesses benefit from predictable and consistent income, I could see this idea being mutually beneficial. More players could join those servers, which any large public server wants, and ED could gain a stable income flow. I personally avoid subscriptions as an end user as much as I can, but SaaS models are proven to be productive for business to business (can I call large, public servers volunteer businesses?) if the conditions are agreeable. As far as disclosure, I only hope this question produces feedback without offense. I have no investment in whether it's implemented beyond potentially being able to play on maps I can't afford at the moment.
Woiuld it be possible to have the Harrier in the 1980s campaign? I love that aircraft and much prefer atg to ata missions, and with longer flight times I'd love not having to slug around in the A10
What does garnish actually mean? If there is no restriction players won't care and I don't see any difference in planeset between scenarios 1 and 2, apart from the Su-25 and A-10. I find that a bit odd, since the F1, 21-bis, F5 and Viggen are 70s planes. I would not call that scenario "early cold war". I think Scenario 1 would be a lot more interesting, if these aircraft would not be included once the Mig-17 and Super Sabre are out. F-86, F-100 as cap, F4 multirole and A4 as attacker on blue vs. the 3 Migs on red as multi-role, with the Huey and Mi-8 as Helos is more then enough variance for a scenario, while it would be a bigger distinction from scenario 2 and incentivise more people (not only the chads) to fly older models like the Mig-17 or F-100 without inferiority-fear.
Heavier weapon restrictions most likely but we will feel our way through it. The idea is not so much to stay to a rigid timeframe but more give different modules a time to shine as the cold war gets more fleshed out
@@Enigma89 Thank you for answering, was just stating my opinion, but I am also a bit of a historical accuracy nerd. Maybe sometime in the future a real early cold war scenario will come to fruition 🙂, with even more aircraft coming for that timeframe (Fiat G91, Corsair II, Skyraider)
I love your server. However I am woefully under skilled and play haphazardly. Do you have a video of how best to connect with squadrons to optimize the experience?
I think you may like Yappy's training server. He has a channel on YT and they are pretty easy going over there. Mainly they fly "training" planes, including the F5 and A4, and others.
Just please don't lose what you got. I was so disappointed to see the Tempest servers switch up their map styles to that story driven stuff. Tempest and ECW were the two best covering CW and SARH servers respectively. I wish we had old Tempest. :(
I love the idea of these little “in between” missions. Do you have any plans to make any of them centered on ww2? I understand there are significant paywall challenges with dcs ww2, but with the influence of ecw I feel like it could lead to some interesting scenarios!
Enigma, Will we see the cold war server coming to the Kola peninsula map when it is released? I and I think MANY others would absolutely adore this region for a server such as yours
Now just need to work on server stability instead of adding more and more things to slow it down. The first few days after the 2.9 update the servers were butter smooth even with 70 players. Now it crashes consistently or has very low performance often. Thanks for the server. Keep up the good work.
I think that if more quality servers supported the new maps, more people would get them. I LOVE the faulklands map, and an enigma style server with combat around that era/war would be absolutely amazing. But since nobody supports the map yet, there is no reason for anyone to buy it.
I do honestly think serverside map licenses need to be a thing in dcs, because 70s being locked to syria immediately means i wont be able to play half the stuff i want to...
Love it. I have been out for a while. Is there a place on the discord where we can see the schedule so we can see in advance what is coming and plan accordingly?
A bit of an odd question you'll likely have answered on discord, but I'm not active on there. Is there a specific reason as to why the Hornet, F-16 and F-15's are excluded from the 1980's (or even the 1970's) plan? I can think of a couple 'maybe's', but none I'm very certain about... Is it that the cockpit and the systems are too modern and might pose too great of a technological advantage over the other aircraft? (An issue the F-14 wouldn't have) Or is it because these modules make it less likely for other modules to chosen? Is there perhaps a coding reason for it, i.e. recon range, or something in that area? I'm of course not very knowledgeable about a ton of their usage in the 1970's and 1980's, but I do know that you could technically take period-specific loadouts with all these aircraft. further adding on to the fact that I don't have a lot of info about that, to me it seems like these aircraft are similar to the F-14 in what they're capable of carrying and what they had (between the 1970's and 1990's at least). Would be interesting to know as I'm currently practicing the Viggen (and have pre-ordered the F-4) for Some games in the Enigma server.
I'm probably going to enjoy the intermission more than the campaign. Personally I love the F-14A limitation as it fits my squadron time late 70's early 80's but.. It's hard to organise a flight with the whole 500 point thing or landbase F-14. IMO 4xF-14A-GR-135 80's (-95 for the 70's) should be Carrier only (Ideally Supercarrier with a recovery tanker) and need to connect to tanker to make it to AO type of scenario instead of the point barrier. Forestal would be ideal but it's a pain in the ASS for hooking up to the cat & to get proper coms on landing. Also a Sparrow + fuel tank only available on the boat.
While we really like the campaign and plan to continue to support it as our main focus, we think that these intermissions will help keep things fresh. Additionally, we are really excited for how each individual campaign will evolve as the Cold War scene gets more fleshed out. Let me know what you think.
You are a coder?
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we'll have 3 servers running at the same time? or the campaings will rotate as it will being completed?
@@Kokiroto Rotate, ECW has zero plan of doing multiple servers.
Any reason for not wanting to run two separate servers?
you know enigma…i usually never comment but i really have to comment on this…thank you so so much for doing what you do…your server definitely made my dreams come true of being a cold war fighter pilot, and i think that all of the community agrees on that…just the insane amount of work you do for this server is truly inspiring…thank you enigma for making this amazing server and thank you, the awesome community for making our dreams come true.
those modern planes might be good and more advanced but my god are cold war jets some sexy machines lol.
Thanks, don't forget its a team effort and not just me
I really like the concept of having small intermission missions between the campaigns. I would really love to see a 1982 Falkland War intermission mission taking place on the South Atlantic map.
Ho yeah !
I'd love to see South Atlantic used more often.
Scrolled down to say exactly this.
Yeah, or a Chile Argentina war, which almost happened before the Falklands, DCS has every planed used except for the Hawker Hunter
Yep!!
Server map licences would have been a great solution
Wonder if this has ever been brought up to ED
That Mirage did that other Mirage dirty
It's how baby Mirages are made.
Please do a Korean war style map, like the event that was run on the server previously! With props, F-86, MiG15bis, and maybe the MiG17 and F100 when they come out. Although the F100 might be a bit advanced for my vision and if the AIM9B is available to the sabre then I think the MiG17 would at least give missile capability to red for, I am thinking no supersonic planes. It would provide some healthy competition to IL-2 with their announcement of Korea being their next installment.
The only thing I would suggest is consider including the FC3 planes in all scenarios. I disagree with removing the A-10/SU-25 from Cauc and would have instead limited the weapons on them in order to keep access to as many players as possible. Keep up the good work.
Exactly! Seems contadictive to talk about pay walls while removing some of the most affordable modules thus forcing people to buy new modules. I wonder who would benefit from that.
While I am not active player in MP (learning my A-4 in SP), I have to agree with the original comment. A-4 is a great module and free at that, but there is no equivalent on the red side - or at least to my knowledge. 🤷🏼 So, A-10 and Su-25 would really be awesome, IMO.
The A-4 is on the server and it's free to play
Really excited for this, rebuilding my sim pit could not have happened at a better time! Thank you for all that you do!
Thank you and your team for this server, and all the hard work. You really do the DCS community a favour.
This looks amazing. Being era focused with each era's associated planes is just awesome.
I can’t commend you guys enough for your interaction with the community.
Good to see a great step in the right direction!
Some serious Precision flying with those Mirages at the end there . I couldn't stop laughing . Thanks for the great update and ideas Enigma .
Amazing :) thanks to everyone involved.
Wwiiol intermissions were awesome. Glad you’re carrying that torch into DCS
I really hope Kola makes it into the rotation when it comes out! It fits any era of Cold War and would be a nice way to balance desert vs non desert maps. Thanks for all of y’all’s hard work, ECW is a treasure to DCS.
This is exciting. Although I haven’t really been on sense the servers location changed to Europe. Looks like I might need to come back. Hopefully it isn’t too laggy. Also, @Enigma thank you for what you and your team do. You guys have set the foundation of what DCS full scale multiplayer should look like.
Brilliant man! Love your server!
How come the F-15C isn't in the 80's campaign and limit it to carry the earlier aim7's? Seems odd, on a side note the '80s campaign seems a great place to put an m2000 module while I know technically it came out in the early 90s with it being fox1 only plane and all other planes at this time are fox3 it would be a nice addition to have a home to fly the mirage 2000 in a competitive environment vs a modern environment where its out classed. Just my two cents.
i think your making a big mistake with the 80's mission, it should be focused around the MiG-23 and F-4, and the MiG-29 and Mirage 2000 (and F-14) when it comes to air to air.
the MiG-21 and F-5 just shouldn't be the main focus in the 80's, and i own both of them, dont make the 80's feel like the 70's
Cool. Don't really have anything other that the A4 to try on your severs for now, but with the F4, I'm sure it will be great!
3:42 The animosity toward the Hornet in your tone is palpable here lmao
This is great!
Late Cold War is my favorite setting, so I can’t wait to play the Persian Gulf scenario!
Sounds great - looking forward to the PG mission!
I totally understand what you're saying regarding maps. Sinai totally fits 70s and 80s Cold War, but maps are pretty expensive. And take up huge amounts of drive space.
your server is the main reason I still come back to DCS multi on a regular basis. Thank you. FZG_Immel
Any plans for the Kiowa to be added to the 80's mission when released?
Sadly i think not cuz it has mfd’s
Glad you guys are continuing to update and try new concepts. I wonder if as ecw ages and people burnout and need a break if the player population will be able to support 3 servers continuously (is it 3 servers or 1 with 3 missions?). Regardless I figure you guys are willing to change and adapt to whatever lessons become apparent.
The plan is to keep it as three scenarios on one server, game pop is too small for multiple servers and it's way too much work.
@@parab225 oh ok sounds good makes sense now
Thank you for your effort Enigma. Your server is the only reason I play DCS nowadays...
not gonna lie 1970s feels like 1960s and 1980s looks like it’ll feel like 1970s
Love the server, keep up the great work Enigma and team ❤
I think you should introduce a campaign/intermission that is Mid 80s cold war NATO/Warsaw pact in the Caucasus mountains. This makes 2 grass maps/2 desert maps so it’s a bit more even to fit everybody’s tastes.
Really looking forward to all of this
I love the idea of servers being able to buy license for maps
I am one of those cash-strapped players who's reliant on the base maps and the A4 - if a financial barrier to entry is a concern, why not use the Marianas map for one of the three (four?) scenarios? It might not be ideal, but is it an option?
Thanks for all you do for the server and the community, hugely grateful!
Thanks for the updates, really like the evolution. Would love to see the 1950 intermission back in the mix as well, that was a real vibe. Jugs dogfighting Sabres, chefs kiss
Yeah the 1950s-early 1960s is REALLY underserviced in "Cold War" content. It enables some WW 2 a/c to join in and has some very fun possibilities, but I get it... there's only so many modules in game so far and not a lot of players have them... but damn can that be FUN! There's just something compelling about the subsonic regime, where the T/W ratios are lower, the speeds are within a tighter window (a good "bounce" can enable slower planes to catch faster) and it's just more bare bones and raw. Even the A-10, MB-339 and Harrier could be possible (although limited) if the options are limited (no AAM really evens the playing field a lot! A harrier vs a sabre really is a tough fight if JUST using guns!)
Thumbs up for the smaller missions in between the campaigns.
Imo there should be a subscription that unlocks all the maps in addition to the option to purchase it at full price.
Ok I need to work on my CW planes and get use to flying them. I usually don't fly Multi but I think this is the year I will. Have you made a "Getting Started" video for ECW? Besides getting connected, what other programs would a person need? Like a voice chat server, etc. I will see you in the skies soon.
Really love the UA-cam content!
I keep meaning to hop on to the server and try out DCS multiplayer. Trouble is I'm currently not very good with any DCS aircraft, and I'm not familiar with the ins and outs of how to play.
Do you think it's possible you might create a short, 'server ettiquette' video in the future to prime newcomers? If not, no problem, I'll just have to get over my anxiety of playing 'wrong' while I learn haha. Thanks Enigma!
I really like the idea of the PG map, however I was wondering or hoping it would be a geopolitical backstory driven campaign like you could make an Iran/Iraq war scenario set in an alternate timeline. And here it's not just generic blue vs red but proper use of factions and coalitions.
For instance you can divide Iran into 2, and give the western side to Iraq, Russia, China etc. with Iraq being the main faction here and China/Russia being supporting factions. Iraq can have most of their planes, aka Mig-21, 19, 23 when it comes out, 29, Mirage F-1 along with some Hips and Hinds of course. Some of the supporting faction aircraft can be there too like Russian Su-25s, L-39s, Chinese Mig-19s, Mi-8s etc.
As for Blue of course Iran being the main faction here, F-86, F-5, F-4 when it comes out and limited number of F-14As! There can be supporting planes here as well eg American F-4s, F-5s, even Saudi F-5s and F-86s, and you can also add UAE MB-339s here for good measure. Iran also has the Huey so that's another plus!
I really think this is a massive missed opportunity and should be worth a try at least! Please see what can be done
DCS is just a super empty game outside of the planes. I don't really have the will to write lore into our server to cover that gap.
@Enigma89 hey maybe I can do it, or at the very least find someone. We have a large community in DCS that is very passionate! Why not use it?
@@Enigma89 I feel ya, but mostly just to give him a shoutout, I loved the lore dumps Tempest did. Pointless? Sure. Cool? Hell yea
Are you going to be doing a Korean War-era campaign set as well (eventually)? One that includes both first-gen (and perhaps even early second-gen) jets as well as the tail end of prop planes (so the WWII warbirds + early jets like MiG-15, F-86, and F9F mod)...?
Map licenses would be awesome. Cold War in Sinai is my bread and butter... Its a fantastic map
I am currently cash trapped and cannot even afford modules as I'm stuck with the default Su-25T, and I don't know how I will be able to get in ECW, but already you keeping the map Caucasus already puts it on the prority list, thanks for understanding the community and being so generous.
Get the free a-4 mod
its not free you need su 27 for it to work@@linecraftman3907
On top the the fantastic and very fun A-4 community module you can buy The SU-25A for like $7.50 USD right now as you cant use a SU-25T in the cold war.
Same here! 😓 Also, I love A-4 mod, but there is nothing like it on the red side. 🤷🏼
Edit: I'm saving for Hotas, modules and maps are off the chart for some time.
Dude really hates the tomcat. 😢
I would love if we could have more mission time during dawn and dusk. Its an entirely different type of fight, especially in the latter when it gets darker and you identify targets via afterburners. Changes the whole atmosphere around the fight as well.
Part of the problem is that dawn missions rapidly turn to day, and dusk missions turn to night (at which point it's almost impossible to see, much less navigate and/or fight)
@@djbiscuit1818 Hmm well maybe they could play around with this and the shorter interval missions
Exactly, the new shorter missions would work well with these timings@@PrincipeCharro
That Mirage...
Really no F16 for the 80ies? ( No AWACS, no Amraam = 80ies?)
No the campaign is a curated experience and not a place for these modules that are too modern. Sorry. There has to be at least one server that does this outside the WWII servers
Thank God I was waiting for the phantom as nothing else but the tomcat has any kind of Interst here for me. I've been waiting to use the big cat.
This sounds good. I am not a current player on enigma, but I like helicopters and the only server I have experience with is rotorheads. That site is unrealistic in that way too much AAA and not enough other targets. It’s nice to hone your skills but it’s like playing war thunder. It gives a lack of purpose sometimes
Dude. Please jump on. We need rotor boys in Enigma. We only have Gazel, Huey, Mi-8, and Mi-24 but fighting jets pushing the front might give you something refreshing to do.
Would it be possible to add p-51 to 1960’s ecw? It just seems like it would be fun flying at treetop level hiding from migs even if it’s not very effective
Great! I love how this server is developing, i have a few questions:
-Why do you take some more time for the Korea and heli only intermissions? We already have a few events and they were pretty nice, as much as i remember.
-Next i have a question about the timezone, if an intermission last four hours in the USA, people from Europe wont be able to partecipate because of timezones and viceversa, how is it possibile to resolve this?
- Wouldn't it be cool if, for each intermission you guys decide the skins for each plane (can be one skin per plane or a few and the player decides which one to choose) and the armament, following historical accuracy?
I'm really enjoying how this server is growing, both in numbers and quality. Keep it on, comrades
The time zone thing is not really something we can plan around. The intermissions are not the main focus, so they will come and go. In order for us to feel comfortable in experimenting with them, we have to limit how much they are on the server. Korea and helis will come eventually.
@@Enigma89 thanks for answering, this intermission things looks fun, hope to try them soon
I'd definitely be interested in a Korea multiplayer mission. My favorite ww2 plane is the Corsair. However, really only play the game online pvp. It's not the correct Corsair for Korea, but that's no big deal. It's going to be 3-5 years until dcs will have a decently well fleshed out Pacific ww2 server I'm guessing. Even a once in a while place to fly the Corsair may be enough for me to buy it
I personally agree with your view that there are "pay walls" for maps wich splits the community BUT people mostly dont buy this maps bcs no popular servers OFFERS them and Support those maps so they just stay with the herd, It seems like people are stuck forever on cauc or syria and persian golf. And actually NOBODY can tell me that there are A TON of people who play this game arent willing to pay money if they allready buyed themself a module wich can be compared to an full price GAME in price point. DCS is no cheap hobby everybody who plays this or EVEN STARTS knows that straight from the beginning. I think that a lot more servers should have those new maps in rotation so people have an REASON to buy them.
Love the server. The only issue I have is it’s almost always full when I do get on.. and like many others my time for DCS in any day is very limited. A second server would be great, however I understand why splitting the players up to have two servers only half full is not as enjoyable, but if you think you could fill two then maybe worth considering?
Intermission sounds so cool
In the 1980's Server will you be able to fly the T-Variant of the SU-25? Because it is a very 1980's plane!
Intermission #2 would be awesome if Mi-8s could deploy sams like they could on Alpen
We are not introducing slinging
please reconsider this. as you state that the beginning of the video, ecw is the go to server for cold war....if people need a break from it then they can go to a different server, one server does not need to provide everything. this is similar to what tempest did and it completely killed all fun on that server for me and my group that used to fly tempest daily, now tempest is boring as fuck to fly. and i cant help but see that's exactly the same road ecw going to end up going. I absolutely love yalls cold war server to the point iv been a patron. but i could not sit by and not speak my mind. some of my friends only have a couple days a week to fly, and if these 24 hr "intermissions" are landing on these days, which we all know that they will also seem to do, then that will be the end of our time on ecw.
Muy bien. Y los helicópteros cuando? Porque ahora son carne de cañón en el servidor, no te puedes defender y las distancias son aburridas. En Cáucaso por ejemplo los helicópteros sufren para volar sobre las montañas, y se hace muy aburrido el viaje. Hace falta más acción cercana.
i truly hope you will let the kiowa warrior in so i can fight hinds and other helis with the gau19 (if they add it) ive bought the hind the f5e and syria map so i can play on your servers soon (after my buddy tutors me the how tos) Heli pvp and dumb munition runs are what i love same goes for the F5E i share your passion about fluid and dynamic engagements that arent just bland MFD management the modern age is cool (i have the f18) but it gets old quick
Will F14 get its AIM-54 in the Persian Gulf 1980 scenario? Would be flavorful...
If you ever add a 4th map, I hope it would not be another of those "DCS Grand Desert" maps.
Maybe waiting for Kola Peninsula or Vietnam to come out, or using South Atlantic or Marianas.
tbh i think all of these intermission scenarios should be 24 hours! they sound fun
The issue with that is that we have to create missions that can last and persist through resets and that makes thing so much more complex. If we find that people like these we can play around with things.
Thanks for the update Enigma!
Are there any other plans of integrating any community planes into the mix?
Are there any plans to have two campaigns running seperately in different servers?
1) There are no plans to integrate any more community planes. We are keeping close eye on the Cobra mod. In general people should automatically assume that we will not put something on the server and this extends to both modules and mods.
2) No. We would rather have one big server instead of two semi populated servers. Additionally, we do not have the time to support two servers.
Please no.
@@Enigma89 Understandable. F-4, F-104, and BO-105 will hopefully come at one point available AND accepted as ECW modules :-)
@Enimga89 Having the option for maps to be licensed to server hosts is a very wise idea. Do you think that would be welcomed in subscription form by large server hosts, or would a single payment be preferred? Obviously, enforcing a license model on every server is a horrible idea, subscription-based or not. Some people just want to play with their crew, and I'm sure ED wouldn't want to punish them for doing so. Considering that larger servers already have recurring hosting payments, and that modern businesses benefit from predictable and consistent income, I could see this idea being mutually beneficial. More players could join those servers, which any large public server wants, and ED could gain a stable income flow.
I personally avoid subscriptions as an end user as much as I can, but SaaS models are proven to be productive for business to business (can I call large, public servers volunteer businesses?) if the conditions are agreeable. As far as disclosure, I only hope this question produces feedback without offense. I have no investment in whether it's implemented beyond potentially being able to play on maps I can't afford at the moment.
I think the subscription model is fair and reasonable to be honest.
Any chance we get to play around more with the harrier seeing as it was an 80s aircraft?
Woiuld it be possible to have the Harrier in the 1980s campaign? I love that aircraft and much prefer atg to ata missions, and with longer flight times I'd love not having to slug around in the A10
What does garnish actually mean? If there is no restriction players won't care and I don't see any difference in planeset between scenarios 1 and 2, apart from the Su-25 and A-10. I find that a bit odd, since the F1, 21-bis, F5 and Viggen are 70s planes. I would not call that scenario "early cold war". I think Scenario 1 would be a lot more interesting, if these aircraft would not be included once the Mig-17 and Super Sabre are out.
F-86, F-100 as cap, F4 multirole and A4 as attacker on blue vs. the 3 Migs on red as multi-role, with the Huey and Mi-8 as Helos is more then enough variance for a scenario, while it would be a bigger distinction from scenario 2 and incentivise more people (not only the chads) to fly older models like the Mig-17 or F-100 without inferiority-fear.
Heavier weapon restrictions most likely but we will feel our way through it. The idea is not so much to stay to a rigid timeframe but more give different modules a time to shine as the cold war gets more fleshed out
@@Enigma89 Thank you for answering, was just stating my opinion, but I am also a bit of a historical accuracy nerd. Maybe sometime in the future a real early cold war scenario will come to fruition 🙂, with even more aircraft coming for that timeframe (Fiat G91, Corsair II, Skyraider)
Will the M2000 be in the 80s campaign? It seems tailor made for it.
I love your server. However I am woefully under skilled and play haphazardly. Do you have a video of how best to connect with squadrons to optimize the experience?
I think you may like Yappy's training server. He has a channel on YT and they are pretty easy going over there. Mainly they fly "training" planes, including the F5 and A4, and others.
Just please don't lose what you got. I was so disappointed to see the Tempest servers switch up their map styles to that story driven stuff. Tempest and ECW were the two best covering CW and SARH servers respectively. I wish we had old Tempest. :(
Would love a modernised version of the server that just restricts certain newer technology weapons like fox 3s, maybe jsow and jdam weapons.
Modern is not playable, too much missing
Is there no place for a harrier?
Will Scenario 3 (1980s) see the KA50 BS3?
so 1980s but the F-14 doesn't have the AIM-54?
I love the idea of these little “in between” missions. Do you have any plans to make any of them centered on ww2? I understand there are significant paywall challenges with dcs ww2, but with the influence of ecw I feel like it could lead to some interesting scenarios!
Enigma, Will we see the cold war server coming to the Kola peninsula map when it is released? I and I think MANY others would absolutely adore this region for a server such as yours
Depends on the quality of the map
@@Enigma89 Fair enough, but if it is of good quality, do you think you guys will give us a campaign on it?
Weekend gaming
Thank you for your passion and support
Now just need to work on server stability instead of adding more and more things to slow it down. The first few days after the 2.9 update the servers were butter smooth even with 70 players. Now it crashes consistently or has very low performance often. Thanks for the server. Keep up the good work.
That's for ED to fix really.
Will scenario 3(advanced) include the Kiowa upon its release? (Or perhaps in the intermission scenarios)
Yeah I just can't afford all of these new maps. Thanks for including that in your selection.
It’s the only Cold War server that matters.
Anybody else think the mig23 and f4 should be grouped together since they are both gen 3?
Just hope the intermissions don't mostly fall on the weekends.
I think that if more quality servers supported the new maps, more people would get them.
I LOVE the faulklands map, and an enigma style server with combat around that era/war would be absolutely amazing. But since nobody supports the map yet, there is no reason for anyone to buy it.
I would love a 4th campaign in the Nevada map, as a fictional invasion of the USA, would be very fun!
I would strongly reccomend to add a sinai permanent server, In the comming years will be as owned as Syria today.
Placing an f-16 in the thumbnail is peak clickbait
Why don't you organize dynamic campaigns like "Tactical air war" in IL-2 ?
Alpenwolf style missions need to return
any plans for the f15c to be added, ik the f15e is wayyyy too late but the c would be really cool especiall in pg
So i have the f4 but only the caucasus map does that mean i cant play the server
I do honestly think serverside map licenses need to be a thing in dcs, because 70s being locked to syria immediately means i wont be able to play half the stuff i want to...
Love it. I have been out for a while. Is there a place on the discord where we can see the schedule so we can see in advance what is coming and plan accordingly?
A bit of an odd question you'll likely have answered on discord, but I'm not active on there.
Is there a specific reason as to why the Hornet, F-16 and F-15's are excluded from the 1980's (or even the 1970's) plan? I can think of a couple 'maybe's', but none I'm very certain about...
Is it that the cockpit and the systems are too modern and might pose too great of a technological advantage over the other aircraft? (An issue the F-14 wouldn't have)
Or is it because these modules make it less likely for other modules to chosen?
Is there perhaps a coding reason for it, i.e. recon range, or something in that area?
I'm of course not very knowledgeable about a ton of their usage in the 1970's and 1980's, but I do know that you could technically take period-specific loadouts with all these aircraft.
further adding on to the fact that I don't have a lot of info about that, to me it seems like these aircraft are similar to the F-14 in what they're capable of carrying and what they had (between the 1970's and 1990's at least).
Would be interesting to know as I'm currently practicing the Viggen (and have pre-ordered the F-4) for Some games in the Enigma server.
A lot of the planes you mentioned are modern variants not relevant ones for our scenarios.
@@Enigma89 Roger, thanks for the clarification!
I'm probably going to enjoy the intermission more than the campaign.
Personally I love the F-14A limitation as it fits my squadron time late 70's early 80's but..
It's hard to organise a flight with the whole 500 point thing or landbase F-14.
IMO 4xF-14A-GR-135 80's (-95 for the 70's) should be Carrier only (Ideally Supercarrier with a recovery tanker) and need to connect to tanker to make it to AO type of scenario instead of the point barrier.
Forestal would be ideal but it's a pain in the ASS for hooking up to the cat & to get proper coms on landing.
Also a Sparrow + fuel tank only available on the boat.
Good concept, nice to see some changes. Btw why on the 80´s scenario the f15 is not there?
Forgot to tack it on. It's in the Lebanon mission. We will prolly add it into campaign when we get mig23
What was that whole thing with the Mirage F1 crashing into the other Mirage F1? Kinda just tossed that in there with no explanation lol
Do you guys know any server that follows the same rules and persistance but allows modern planes like the F16?
Yep, we allow it on Contention.