Gas block barrel straightening
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- Опубліковано 3 кві 2024
- First published on Patreon, we are now sharing here and on Rumble.
Randy was sent 2 barrels out of around 20 that a client needs straightened. They are barrels that had glass blocks on them and though the barrels are in excellent condition, it appears that the barrels were slightly bent when the glass blocks were forced on them, when warm.
These are two of the easiest he has ever straightened. He notes, with a grin, that he uses a Douglas Fir log. Which, IMHO, would be the ONLY type to use if you have a Douglas barrel that is bent! Also noted is that to straighten any barrel, the glass blocks, barrel bands should be removed. And it should be noted, also, that the front sights should be removed if the bend is close to the muzzle.
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Randy, my father in law purchased an old Spanish Mauser before he passed. It shots 2feet left and 2feet low . Thanks for showing this . Also I believe this is the reason for this rifle to be in such good condition. Nobody could hit anything with it so it didn't get used. I'm thrilled there is a way to fix it and I learned it from YOU! Thanks so much. It's chambered in -06. I put five rounds you could cover with a half dollar at a hundred yrds . Only problem is they are close to three feet from where I was aiming.lol
If anyone other than Mr. Selby told me this I wouldn't believe it. Randy is the gospel.
He’s laughably incompetent.
I have done this several times. Most people won't believe this is possible. Glad you made this video, maybe they will believe you since they don't believe me.
ua-cam.com/video/VB1KfwffqHM/v-deo.html
This one is also one I made about barrel straightening, but since I had the gas block barrels in, I thought I'd do one on them, also.
Thanks for watching.
My video library is growing one video at a time. I find it interesting how a steel rifle barrel actually snaps back into true just by knowing how to rap it on a good chunk of wood, but I do believe it. You're something else, Mr. Randy!
Like muscle memory, there is memory in the metal. It will, most of the time, easily return with a good, properly placed whack. ;)
Thanks for watching and adding to your library!
That method of barrel straightening blows my mind.
I truly believe, you are probably the only person in this world, I would allow to do this with my barrel.
Bill Prator taught this at Trinidad State Junior College Gunsmithing when I was there, back in the day, not sure if it is taught anymore or not.
ua-cam.com/video/VB1KfwffqHM/v-deo.html This was the first video I did on this method.
Thanks for watching.
Yeah honestly
Much quicker straightening than the first video where you demonstrated this technique. Have to be lucky sometimes😁. Cheers from NZ🇳🇿.
about fifty years ago their was an older fella that had an ffl and you could order shot guns and rifles from him. I was sitting in his kitchen eating fired onions and deer tender loin with him and a customer came in with a complaint that his new Belgium browning shot to the left. the ffl dealer excused him self and took a greasy looking kitchen towel and the shotgun out the side door and thu the kitchen window I observed him putting the shotgun barrel in the crotch of a tree and bent the barrel with slight nudge, gave the shotgun back to the customer. (customer never saw what he did). the Customer came back very happy that the browning 16 ga. shot a perfect shot pattern and asked how did he correct the shot pattern, the old fella told him it was a secret. I was shocked to see this but it worked !
Bet they don’t teach that in school. Pure experience.
Bill Prator, one of the main instructors at Trinidad State Junior College, Trinidad, Colorado, taught this back in the day when I was there [1969-71] but not sure it is taught any more.
Thanks for watching.
@@TheRealGunsmith Thank you for sharing.
That's why they call you the real gunsmith!
Wise fella never seen a trick like that
Would love to see you do some more shooting videos. You make great guns, lets see them in action.
This is Cathy, the Real Gunsmith's Wife. That is an area I'd like to do, but I've not been satisfied with my videos of the ones we've tried so far. I need more practice, which I'm going to do more of when the weather is nicer. The man who started the video work for us, and did so for 18 months or so, was a professional. His videos are the benchmark I "aim for" [pun intended but true, nontheless!] When he moved on, I took over the video production/editing, etc. An old dog can learn new tricks, it just takes us longer. ;)
Thanks for watching.
@TheRealGunsmith thank you for response. Look forward to the videos.
Looks like a barrel of fun
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and skills and keep your videos coming please.
Thanks for this, very helpful.
good eyes and skill.👀👍
Barrel truing by tuning them off a log?
Cool!
It's all in the world of concentric rings.
He’s just bending them in the gas block area by hitting it. Ppl seem to think harmonics are doing it but it’s just slightly being bent
This video is nonsense. You’re not bending an AR barrel by tapping it on a log 😂
RANDY IS A MASTER CRAFTSMAN!!! THE AMOUT OF INFORMATION THIS MAN BAS FORGOTTEN IS MORE THAN MOST OF US WILL EVER AQUIRE!!!!!
IF I COULD BACK UP 35 YEARS OR SO, I WOULD BEG THIS MAN TO ALLOW ME THE HONOR OF SWEEPING HIS SHOP, JUST IN THE HOPE THAT HE WOULD SOMEDAY TAKE ME ON AS AN APPRENTICE!!!! UNFORTUNATELY I AM 57 NOW, AND UNABLE TO DO MOST OF THE TASKS, DUE TO MULTIPLE INJURIES.
THE LOSS OF KNOWLEDGE THAT WILL HAPPEN UPON RANDY'S DEATH IS TRULY GOING TO BE CATASTROPHIC!!!
I saw a video on 1903 Springfield barrel production they’d just stick it between 2 posts and flex em a bit to straighten em they spent about 5-6 seconds per barrel . So I had a good idea it was a quick easy thing. I’ve never personally needed to or saw the need. Oh I did do a ak once that was shooting a bit to the side and didn’t wanna crank my front sight post over. Atleast not to far.
Hi, The real shock? your eyes are still good enough to see the difference in the shadows.
From The Real Gunsmith's Wife: His eye sight is amazing and he can look at something and tell if it is 1/1000" off! I am lucky to tell if it is 1/2" off!! ;)
Thanks for watching!
Honestly I had to check if this video was posted on April 1st cuz it sure seems like he’s messing with us 😂
From Cathy, The Rea Gunsmith's Wife: I'd not thought about the date fooling with anyone. It was originally published on Patreon on 9-30-2020.
Our other video on straightening barrels ua-cam.com/video/VB1KfwffqHM/v-deo.html was published in June of 2019. As crazy as it seems, it works great!
Thanks for watching!
Where did you get a bunch of bent barrels?
A client who collects and sells had a bunch of them, all from the same lot. He contacted me and sent the work up.
Thanks for watching.
Experience ...😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
I have an old AR15 barrel that shoots so far to one side that I had to crank the rear sight all the way to the left to compensate. I'm going to pull it and put it on my lathe to check for wobble. If I find any, I may try your whacking method to tune it.
Let us know your results!
Thanks for watching.
@@TheRealGunsmith I pulled the barrel and stripped it, then eyeballed the bore but saw no bend. I checked the bore with my 2" long rod gauges. The largest one that would slide all the way through was 0.219", however .220" gauge went in about nine inches from the breech before encountering strong resistance. A three foot long 0.2188" diameter rod also went in about nine or ten inches from the breech. I then mounted the barrel on the lathe with the muzzle in a live center and the back shoulder trued up on a four jaw chuck. Since this is an old tapered M-16 barrel that someone chopped to 16.5", it was impossible to take consistent measurements along its length, so I ran the lathe at 200 rpm and looked for wobble. I saw very little but I did mark a spot 8" from the breech three times with a Sharpie. I measured this high spot as being .009" out of round from the low side, located between the 10 and 11 o'clock position when viewed from the breech. Since the rifle is shooting to the right, I'm not sure if this corresponds with the problem. I'm now wondering if the issue might have been due to the barrel nut being too loose or the fact that one of the front sight base pins was extremely difficult to remove. Before reinserting the FSB pins, I reamed the holes so that gorilla force was not required to insert or remove them. I also torqued the barrel nut to about 50 pounds. One or both of these measures had the desired effect and the rear sight is now back to a near center position and putting rounds in the black.
The barrel band, some feel the Ruger NO1 is not tremendously accurate because of the barrel band. What is your thoughts on this? Another great video, keep them coming.
can't beat a free floated barrel. just sayin
BS. It's the high amount of pressure on the barrel by the fore end. It must be floated and the hanger made rigid for accuracy. I've done this, quite successfully, with hundreds of rifles, some of my own, many for happy clients.
Thanks for watching.
Dang Randy, I see you’re still pumping the iron these days! Is that your secret to being able to shoot a Wapiti express?
From The Real Gunsmith's Wife, Cathy: His "pumping iron" is work. His exercise is walks [or horse/mule rides] in the mountains. No need to go to a gym with his work ethic.
I saw a video of the factory trueing a barrel. The barrel is put in a hand press and then pressed. The operator looks down the bore just like Mr. Selby did.
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Selby, but yes, it works.
Looks like the Bill Prater method to me.
Yes, it is. As is the other video I did on straightening barrels. My instructor at Trinidad State Junior College back in the day.
Thanks for watching and a special thanks for recognizing Bill Prator [whom the college named their shooting range after!]
Polite question,do they stay straight after firing again?
Of course.
Thanks for watching.
What do you think about polygonal rifling?
Polygonal rifling is no more or less accurate than any other. It is the dimensional uniformity of a barrel, worked up loads, that dictate the accuracy, along with the shooter's capability.
Thanks for watching, and thanks for the email, Manuel.
@@TheRealGunsmith yeah randy you are great.
Randy is their any specific type of log you use to tap them on
Well, a Douglas fir for Douglas barrels, obviously! ;) I just use fir or spruce logs, which is what we burn in our fireplace insert.
Thanks for watching!
@@TheRealGunsmith That's funny Randy on the Douglass barrels .But it might be a good idea to get a old blown out barrel and do that to all your logs before you carry them into the woodbox it might knock the spiders and bees out so they don't crawl out in your house.I think I'll try it on mine .Thanks for the reply
So just dropping a rifle 12-inches onto a log will bend the barrel? -C
Good question.
It may flex a bit in the gas block area where the hole is drilled. I’d imagine they weren’t to bad. Their typically flexed using fixtures like your bend a pipe but with a gentle nudge.
It won’t. Which is why this video is total BS.
This method does work well.... needs a bit of finesse.... let's hope that they don't bend them putting all the bits back on them.
Like you, I think the barrels want to be straight, and were when made..... It was the fitting of tight fitting bits on them that created the stresses.
No they’ll be curved some times new I’ve seen videos of mass war production were they were all checked and bent using a crude fixture to straighten them. The curve usually is placed upwards if the maker has the ability
when they heat up they they will move . iff'n you cyo them they will not
Hello, he's saying gas blocks, not 'glass blocks'.
How does a barrel become NOT straight or bent in the first place? A factory flaw, over torqued barrel band, firearm mishandling, etc?
I need to listen. Randy said how gas block driven on barrel. Guessing that mishandling would not normally bend a barrel.
The gas barrels I had in here, since they were old manufacturing, and 20 of them, a factory error.
The hunting rifle barrels that I had in that were bent, and not just by a tad, one had been dropped from some height, onto a rock, in a fall; several were rolled on by horse or mule, one was still on the horse, tied by the back of the trailer and the gate was open, horse moved in such a way that the rifle, in the sheath on the saddle, got in between the gate and the trailer and then the horse moved, had quite the bend in it. Straightened it and it shot as good as ever. Still in use.
Thanks for watching.
Straighten a shotgun barrel, used several blocks , went slow
More care needs to be used with shotguns as the walls of the barrel are much thinner than with a rifle barrel.
Thanks for watching.
@TheRealGunsmith I rigged up 3 v blocks of wood , got it back to point of aim
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