Just bought one with I5-1350P, didn't now that LG makes laptops before :) really good one, I enjoy it a lot, picked for $1k, looks like the best for that price
Very nice review, especially showing the innards of the laptop. On the US LG site, someone was asking if he can install a dual SSD and the idiots at LG replied yes, you have two SSD slots. Did not even understand the question. By the way there is also the Pro version with the RTX3050, much better machine, bigger battery, louder speakers, Variable refresh rate screen and brighter. EDIT: I also forgot the Pro has a dual fan cooling, better overall performance
Honestly, since LG has a two fan cooling solution for the chasis, they use it in the machines that have a dgpu like the 3050 in them. Chasis is all the same, they really should use the two fan cooler in all of them. Guarantee if you watch that machine on HWMonitor, you'll see it hitting throttle temps and then adjusting the CPU down. It will then stabilize into a reduced speed and throttling will die off. However, it likely is throttling as it goes, because the single fan cooler is inadequate for maximum performance, even at the reduced power limit. Just use HWMonitor and something like Aida to stress it for about 5 mins, you'll see what I'm talking about.
Ended up buying this direct from LG. This week this is the one special for Father's Day. $999, now includes Arc graphics. Also free ear buds. Reading good things about the newest Arc graphics, and good for competition. 😄 Maybe a promotion involving Intel.
The processor in this review is also arc graphics. There is a core ultra 5 and ultra 7 variants of the new intel chips with arc integrated graphics. I just ordered the ultra 7 version but I don't think there is a big difference between them, especially since wattage and cooling will limit their full potential.
I just picked up one of these on sale for $999 at Best Buy. It's a great machine if you plan on using a mouse because trackpad is a bit underwhelming. The touch screen is really good, and I love the fact that it is not super glossy like most touch screens.
I have had zero problems with either u or and have not had to engage CS For any issues. I use it for business, no gaming or streaming,and have had zero issues.
Hey, Thanks for making this video. Does LG gram support Dolby vision & audio? I want to ask what's the best laptop for the movie-watching experience? Other additional works are video editing, color correction, script writing, browsing, etc. (No gaming) What do you think about "ASUS ROG Zephyrus G16" and "ASUS Vivobook S 16 OLED"?
For LG gram lineup sweet spot is 16" with rtx gpu. It fits better in bags than 17, its a bit lighter than 17, it has dual fan shared cooling system due to having Nvidia GPU and that gives it better sustained/prolonged CPU performance, which could be nice for work (and enough rtx for some games).
I just got the 16 with the 155H and 3050. It's behaving weird. CPU refuses to go over 50% utilization in cinebench r23. And overall score is around 5000 despite the high performance fan profile. That puts it lower than a 4 core CPU from 2017. The weird behavior extends to daily use stuff too like Windows Update and Chrome together = laggy experience. I think I got a defective unit
@rayw8252 , set LG Assistant Cooling Mode to High for maximum performance. Set Windows power plan to Performance. Also check than no apps use CPU & GPU in background. For example preloaded LG Glance / Mirametrix app, if activated, uses iGPU in background for AI stuff which kills whole experience. You can see GPU usage in Win 11 task manager.
@@jchi6822to rule out the stock Windows image I tried booting to a clean copy of Windows 11 on my USB drive and managed to reproduce the same behavior. It has nothing on it other than essential drivers.
debating whether to buy this one or the 16 pro. It seems that the bottom bezel in this one is smaller and easier to the eye, do you think the laptop dimensions are the same for both models? Thanks
Thanks for the review. I have one more question though. I'm looking for a large laptop like this one to watch movies in my campervan. Do you think the audio quality will be good in the camper to watch movies? Thanks again ! Roger, Belgium.
It would be OK but the speakers aren't that great, better than some ultrabooks, not at the Mac Pro level by any means. I'd want to use a Bluetooth bar for movies personally.
I love your reviews! Sadly, the keyboard was nothing for me and the reason I needed so send it back :/ I don't like Apple Keyboards either, but better than this. My Arms hurted after 2 hours writing. Very sad, I needed the portability with 17inch for photography and graphic work. I hope they upgrade it in the future
Nice review Beau! Have you considered reviewing the lenovo yoga pro 7 with the 4060 graphics (the 14 inch model)? Really wondering how such a thin and portable system fares with that sort of power
@TechGuyBeau does this laptop leave fingerprints badly like thinkpads or more tolerable like latest macbook pro space black? LG has white version of this exact laptop but apparently that version is for selling in Korea only with Korean keyboard
On the us side, Korea and Japan both use the standard QWERTY layout for their keyboards, so it wouldn't be a problem. Only difference is usually they have extra characters and sometimes smaller enter or shift keys.
would you go with the 2024 LG gram (32gb/3050/16 inch) or the 2024 Lenovo yoga pro 9i (32 gb/4050)? plan on light gaming (have a gaming desktop), photo editing, productivity usage. what's the battery comparison like? thanks!
Does your unit also refuse to go over 50% CPU usage when running cinebench r23 multi core? (Monitor task manager). I also notice that this behavior extends to daily mundane stuff like kicking off Windows Update and Chrome, task manager lags.
Definitely not. that might be an issue with your Charger. Are you in performance mode in windows and in the LG softare? you might be in balanced or power saving in the LG software tool
@@TechGuyBeau I'm using the included 90w charging brick and USB c cable. The behavior occurs with or without charger connected. I also tried changing the "cooling mode" to "max" in LG smart assistant and all that did was max out the fans but issue still present.
@@TechGuyBeaufinal cinebench score was around 5000, putting it lower than a 4 core 7700k from 2016. CPU-Z also exhibited the same strange behavior in both single and multi core tests: i.imgur / Jm9kHiY.jpeg
I bought the first Gen back in 2014 or 15 in Korea. LG didn't even sell laptops in the USA back then. So the gram line has been running for nearly 10 years already! They're much more powerful now, and still the weight blows everyone away.
Not everybody works with Word. So for programming, making builds, working with 3D Studio Max or Photoshop, this is not an 8hrs laptop. With a little extra money, better is to buy the new Asus ZenBook S16 with Ryzen 5.
It’s not easy to run. Hence why many people use it as benchmarks. This is especially true for iGPU, as the game is CPU and gpu heavy. You have dedicated graphics. Big difference
@@TechGuyBeau I don't fully agree. BG3 is benchmarked more because of its popularity, not because it's a good benchmarking game. And my point is that it's not "very heavy". It's moderate. Alan Wake 2 and Cyberpunk 2077, those are heavy or very heavy / demanding games. BG3 is more of a minimum requirement for a device to be considered ok for gaming. If it would've been "very heavy" then just passing BG3, you'd be able to say that it can play any other game just as well. Which you can totally not do. And it's true that I have a dedicated GPU, but it's a very old one, that was midrange when it launched. The fact that BG3 can run on it tells that it is NOT very heavy / demanding to run (which is a good thing). And my CPU is now comparable with a low end low power (15W) CPU. Only N100 I think it's both new and weaker than what I have. So, to summarize, my points: - I took issue with the wording that BG3 is a demanding game, when quite old hardware can run it quite well - you can't call that heavy or demanding - it is ok to use it as a benchmark, but it's mostly a sanity benchmark, to check that everything is running normally, that there isn't anything wrong - it's not that ok to use it as the single benchmark, as other than showing that your computer works pretty ok, it's not showing much. It's not a good benchmark to show truly how good a CPU or GPU or APU is, what their limits are. Hope this helps
@@Winnetou17 what i would recommend doing is playing baldurs gate, doing to the area i benchmark. and hthen just playing the game. It is VERY demanding. The game is also extremely demanding when engaging in battles. It will tax cpu and GPU more than most games out there. Sure, Alan wake 2, a notoriously poorly optimized game is "harder" to run, that doesnt make baldurs gate easy to run. When it comes down to it, people gaming on an iGPU will be looking at games like Baldur's Gate 3, which will really take an iGPU due to cpu/gpu combined demand. I doubt that most people will be picking up an LG gram and trying to rip some Alan Wake on it. And even at that, if it can run BG3, it can run some of the most demanding games in existence. Baldur's Gate is just that demanding. (i have 300+ hours in the game, and have put these hours in on everything from a steam deck, which really cant handle the game, all the way up to a legion 9i). Interestingly, the steam deck can run some of the most demanding games on the market, but can barely handle baldurs gate 3. As I said, BG 3 is the iGPU killer, as such when i test iGPUs, I always include BG3
Why PC trackpads are still shit in 2024? We should just stop accepting crappy trackpads from PC manufacturers.. Is it Apple's patents that stopping PC manufacturers from giving good quality trackpads?
If you know of another 17" machine of that power and resolution below 3lbs. Please share, otherwise, you already know the advantages. If it's what you need, they can be found for reasonable prices. What makes it not worth the money is the inadequate cooling solution they use for the proc. Personally the 16 with the 1360P, 32GB of RAM and a 3050 built in, for under 1k is a much better deal. But that's for my use case.
Just bought one with I5-1350P, didn't now that LG makes laptops before :) really good one, I enjoy it a lot, picked for $1k, looks like the best for that price
Bro wtf , you should buy this
Very nice review, especially showing the innards of the laptop. On the US LG site, someone was asking if he can install a dual SSD and the idiots at LG replied yes, you have two SSD slots. Did not even understand the question. By the way there is also the Pro version with the RTX3050, much better machine, bigger battery, louder speakers, Variable refresh rate screen and brighter. EDIT: I also forgot the Pro has a dual fan cooling, better overall performance
Last! I remember working on an LG Gram back in 2019 at my job at the last store I worked at. Blew my mind how thin and light it was.
Honestly, since LG has a two fan cooling solution for the chasis, they use it in the machines that have a dgpu like the 3050 in them. Chasis is all the same, they really should use the two fan cooler in all of them. Guarantee if you watch that machine on HWMonitor, you'll see it hitting throttle temps and then adjusting the CPU down. It will then stabilize into a reduced speed and throttling will die off. However, it likely is throttling as it goes, because the single fan cooler is inadequate for maximum performance, even at the reduced power limit. Just use HWMonitor and something like Aida to stress it for about 5 mins, you'll see what I'm talking about.
Ended up buying this direct from LG. This week this is the one special for Father's Day. $999, now includes Arc graphics. Also free ear buds. Reading good things about the newest Arc graphics, and good for competition. 😄 Maybe a promotion involving Intel.
The processor in this review is also arc graphics. There is a core ultra 5 and ultra 7 variants of the new intel chips with arc integrated graphics. I just ordered the ultra 7 version but I don't think there is a big difference between them, especially since wattage and cooling will limit their full potential.
I just picked up one of these on sale for $999 at Best Buy. It's a great machine if you plan on using a mouse because trackpad is a bit underwhelming. The touch screen is really good, and I love the fact that it is not super glossy like most touch screens.
I would like to see LG make 18-inch gram style with the new AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 with AI features.
Have a 16 and a 17, great laptops for business. This from a long time Lenovo user, never going back.
Is the laptop durable? Hows the customer service experience if you have?
I have had zero problems with either u or and have not had to engage CS For any issues. I use it for business, no gaming or streaming,and have had zero issues.
Thanks for your feedback. What's the screen wobble like when working on your lap? is it a big issue?
I don't use it on my lap. The speakers could be better that's my only beef.
according to LG the refresh rate is variable and can go from 31 Hz up to 144 Hz
Hey, Thanks for making this video. Does LG gram support Dolby vision & audio?
I want to ask what's the best laptop for the movie-watching experience? Other additional works are video editing, color correction, script writing, browsing, etc. (No gaming) What do you think about "ASUS ROG Zephyrus G16" and "ASUS Vivobook S 16 OLED"?
4:20 Thinkpad vibes 100%
It's just missing the red trackball 🖲️
For LG gram lineup sweet spot is 16" with rtx gpu. It fits better in bags than 17, its a bit lighter than 17, it has dual fan shared cooling system due to having Nvidia GPU and that gives it better sustained/prolonged CPU performance, which could be nice for work (and enough rtx for some games).
I just got the 16 with the 155H and 3050. It's behaving weird. CPU refuses to go over 50% utilization in cinebench r23. And overall score is around 5000 despite the high performance fan profile. That puts it lower than a 4 core CPU from 2017. The weird behavior extends to daily use stuff too like Windows Update and Chrome together = laggy experience. I think I got a defective unit
@rayw8252 , set LG Assistant Cooling Mode to High for maximum performance. Set Windows power plan to Performance. Also check than no apps use CPU & GPU in background. For example preloaded LG Glance / Mirametrix app, if activated, uses iGPU in background for AI stuff which kills whole experience. You can see GPU usage in Win 11 task manager.
@@jchi6822to rule out the stock Windows image I tried booting to a clean copy of Windows 11 on my USB drive and managed to reproduce the same behavior. It has nothing on it other than essential drivers.
I had already set the LG assistant to "high" performance mode
Just because it charges at 65 watts does not mean that the CPU is running at a different wattage then a gaming computer with the same CPU
debating whether to buy this one or the 16 pro. It seems that the bottom bezel in this one is smaller and easier to the eye, do you think the laptop dimensions are the same for both models? Thanks
Thanks for the review. I have one more question though. I'm looking for a large laptop like this one to watch movies in my campervan. Do you think the audio quality will be good in the camper to watch movies? Thanks again ! Roger, Belgium.
It would be OK but the speakers aren't that great, better than some ultrabooks, not at the Mac Pro level by any means. I'd want to use a Bluetooth bar for movies personally.
I love your reviews!
Sadly, the keyboard was nothing for me and the reason I needed so send it back :/ I don't like Apple Keyboards either, but better than this. My Arms hurted after 2 hours writing. Very sad, I needed the portability with 17inch for photography and graphic work. I hope they upgrade it in the future
20:05 AMD next gen in a LG gram could go crazy
Nice review Beau! Have you considered reviewing the lenovo yoga pro 7 with the 4060 graphics (the 14 inch model)? Really wondering how such a thin and portable system fares with that sort of power
I don’t think it’s possible to buy this model in Canada unfortunately
10:20 man that screen is pretty
You are killing it with all these good reviews
Thanks! I have… so many more laptops in my house to review too
Thanks for a great informative review. This is what I am ordering from a deal at Best Buy.
@TechGuyBeau does this laptop leave fingerprints badly like thinkpads or more tolerable like latest macbook pro space black? LG has white version of this exact laptop but apparently that version is for selling in Korea only with Korean keyboard
It leaves fingerprints yes, and it’s kinda bad. Not as bad as a thinkpad, but still bad
thanks
On the us side, Korea and Japan both use the standard QWERTY layout for their keyboards, so it wouldn't be a problem.
Only difference is usually they have extra characters and sometimes smaller enter or shift keys.
That battery is clearly wider than the 2023 gram 17's, yet holds less charge.
would you go with the 2024 LG gram (32gb/3050/16 inch) or the 2024 Lenovo yoga pro 9i (32 gb/4050)? plan on light gaming (have a gaming desktop), photo editing, productivity usage. what's the battery comparison like? thanks!
The yoga stomps
@TechGuyBeau sorry for my ignorance, but this means that you would prefer the yoga pro 9i over the LG Gram? I'm having the same dilemma.
Thank you!!
@@Albertolopez084 I think that's what he means. Probably meaning the yoga would stomp all over this one.
What features do the USBC support? Do they both support charging and video out? Are they both thunderbolt?
Usb4 basically so 40gbps, video, and pd
A very fair review. Nice!
5:30 lol I googled it. They call it "advanced nano carbon with magnesium" chasis
I like it
Does your unit also refuse to go over 50% CPU usage when running cinebench r23 multi core? (Monitor task manager). I also notice that this behavior extends to daily mundane stuff like kicking off Windows Update and Chrome, task manager lags.
Definitely not. that might be an issue with your Charger. Are you in performance mode in windows and in the LG softare? you might be in balanced or power saving in the LG software tool
@@TechGuyBeau I'm using the included 90w charging brick and USB c cable. The behavior occurs with or without charger connected. I also tried changing the "cooling mode" to "max" in LG smart assistant and all that did was max out the fans but issue still present.
Final cinebench score was 5000 something. CPU-Z also exhibited weird behavior in both single and multi core i.imgur . com / Jm9kHiY.jpeg
@@TechGuyBeaufinal cinebench score was around 5000, putting it lower than a 4 core 7700k from 2016. CPU-Z also exhibited the same strange behavior in both single and multi core tests: i.imgur / Jm9kHiY.jpeg
nice laptop
Can you have external GPU on this laptop?
Nice video keep up the good work
5:00 with that many screws and the hidden one, not great for businesses to upgrade/repair eh
Is it significantly improved over the 2023 model?
I didn’t review that model, but I can say that Intel core ultra is an immense improvement over P and u series 13th Gen CPUs
@@TechGuyBeau I checked on ntebookcheck, actually it is not much better, some cases even worth than 2023 model.
No backlight on the keyboard? That should be standard in laptops now.
Yes it has a backlit keyboard
how is the hinge / screen wobble compared to a macbook pro?
That’s a tough comparison…. A MacBook Pro is much heavier
@@TechGuyBeau its crazy so many brands miss the mark on this
Man I remember how these were the hottest thing back around 2017. You barely hear about the gram these days
I bought the first Gen back in 2014 or 15 in Korea. LG didn't even sell laptops in the USA back then.
So the gram line has been running for nearly 10 years already!
They're much more powerful now, and still the weight blows everyone away.
May i ask your mic being used..¿
Fifine mic
How can it last you a full 8h work day if it only lasts 5h on UA-cam?
Because streaming UA-cam is more demanding than doing word processing by a lot
Not everybody works with Word. So for programming, making builds, working with 3D Studio Max or Photoshop, this is not an 8hrs laptop. With a little extra money, better is to buy the new Asus ZenBook S16 with Ryzen 5.
7:20 interesting that it can't Even fit double sided m.2 nvme drives
how about battery life
Decent. Check the batter section of the video
"Baldur's Gate is not an easy game to run" | "very demanding"
My almost 8 year old laptop with i7 6700HQ (quad core) with GTX 1060 6GB - you WHAAAT ?
It’s not easy to run. Hence why many people use it as benchmarks.
This is especially true for iGPU, as the game is CPU and gpu heavy.
You have dedicated graphics. Big difference
@@TechGuyBeau I don't fully agree.
BG3 is benchmarked more because of its popularity, not because it's a good benchmarking game.
And my point is that it's not "very heavy". It's moderate. Alan Wake 2 and Cyberpunk 2077, those are heavy or very heavy / demanding games.
BG3 is more of a minimum requirement for a device to be considered ok for gaming. If it would've been "very heavy" then just passing BG3, you'd be able to say that it can play any other game just as well. Which you can totally not do.
And it's true that I have a dedicated GPU, but it's a very old one, that was midrange when it launched. The fact that BG3 can run on it tells that it is NOT very heavy / demanding to run (which is a good thing).
And my CPU is now comparable with a low end low power (15W) CPU. Only N100 I think it's both new and weaker than what I have.
So, to summarize, my points:
- I took issue with the wording that BG3 is a demanding game, when quite old hardware can run it quite well - you can't call that heavy or demanding
- it is ok to use it as a benchmark, but it's mostly a sanity benchmark, to check that everything is running normally, that there isn't anything wrong
- it's not that ok to use it as the single benchmark, as other than showing that your computer works pretty ok, it's not showing much. It's not a good benchmark to show truly how good a CPU or GPU or APU is, what their limits are.
Hope this helps
@@Winnetou17 what i would recommend doing is playing baldurs gate, doing to the area i benchmark. and hthen just playing the game.
It is VERY demanding. The game is also extremely demanding when engaging in battles. It will tax cpu and GPU more than most games out there.
Sure, Alan wake 2, a notoriously poorly optimized game is "harder" to run, that doesnt make baldurs gate easy to run.
When it comes down to it, people gaming on an iGPU will be looking at games like Baldur's Gate 3, which will really take an iGPU due to cpu/gpu combined demand.
I doubt that most people will be picking up an LG gram and trying to rip some Alan Wake on it. And even at that, if it can run BG3, it can run some of the most demanding games in existence. Baldur's Gate is just that demanding.
(i have 300+ hours in the game, and have put these hours in on everything from a steam deck, which really cant handle the game, all the way up to a legion 9i).
Interestingly, the steam deck can run some of the most demanding games on the market, but can barely handle baldurs gate 3. As I said, BG 3 is the iGPU killer, as such when i test iGPUs, I always include BG3
Vsync on double buffer 17:28 :p
Oh yeah, we ain’t hitting 60fps here lol. Gotta avoid that screen tearing
That's not even the ultra thin version
Proper good job m8..u are detroning jarrodtech
Great video cutie patootie 😍
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FIRST!
Why PC trackpads are still shit in 2024? We should just stop accepting crappy trackpads from PC manufacturers.. Is it Apple's patents that stopping PC manufacturers from giving good quality trackpads?
no theres quite a few windows device with big glass haptic touchpads. check out spectre x360 and lots of lenovos have the option to get haptic instead
One company making shit trackpads ≠ all windows laptop manufacturers trackpads, look at lenovo or Asus for example
@@elderman64 do any pc manufacturer have force touch trackpad
We can see how Beau tries to find advantages, but we also understand that this laptop isnt worth the money. Just a thin laptop for a high price.
If you know of another 17" machine of that power and resolution below 3lbs. Please share, otherwise, you already know the advantages. If it's what you need, they can be found for reasonable prices. What makes it not worth the money is the inadequate cooling solution they use for the proc. Personally the 16 with the 1360P, 32GB of RAM and a 3050 built in, for under 1k is a much better deal. But that's for my use case.