Timbers are sourced locally here in North Western Ontario. White Pine was used in this particular build. The timbers at the end are 6" x 14" x 17' long. They weigh approx 300 - 350 LBS each
Hi! Good question. These particular docks are installed with 4 inch schedule 40 pipe (1/4" wall thickness) and they are pilot drilled 3 feet into the bedrock, pipe installed into the 3 foot pocket, then it is smashed/hammered into place with the idea that the base of the pipe hopefully mushrooms in the hole creating an anchor. After that, its left freestanding (no mortar or concrete fill) but capped with W15 x 6 inch "I" Beam. 10 foot span max between each pipe. (Edited - correcting the auto-correct lol)
A pipe dock build of some sort is something I am interested in. I read all the comments and see that Lake of the Woods was specifically noted. I have a cabin on Oak Island in the Northwest Angle of Lake of the Woods. I am on the south side of Oak with alot of miles of open water to my south. I'm concerned about a pipe dock lasting along my shoreline, but would still like to explore the possibility of building one. I have a pipe driller that will be doing the work but am looking for any advice or concerns that someone else that has done a project like this might have. Any help would be appreciated.
@mikeringnell7913 hi there mike. Oak island in N.W.A. is just on stateside, yes? We are up to the north in clearwater bay area (and kenora). If you're on the south side of oak island then you'll have that big traverse basin to deal with which is fine for water but can be treacherous on pipedocks for the ice/thaw season. When we sled to the Angle we always pass massive ice ridges in that basin by the Angle. If that ice flows into your pipe (which are 4" schedule 40), itll shear them like butter. It all depends on the prevailing winds during the thaw. If you get pile ups of ice on your shore then a pioe dock may not survive. Its a significant investment to chance when facing the open basin ice. Your driller should be drilling 3 feet into bedrock. If i recall, that basin is 20 feet roughly and a mud bottom. If you have shallow (less than 4 feet) at shore, then youll also be contending with mud jacking every season. If you'd like to discuss further or have more questions, check out boleandbranch.ca (thats us) and drop me an email. We can chat about it further to at least point you in the right direction.
We use schedule 40, 4 inch pipe (1/4" wall thickness). We drill down to bedrock and then at least 3 feet into the bedrock then we underpin the pipe if need be but we wedge the pipe into the hole similar to the way a concrete anchor works. We hire it out to specialists. But we handle everything from thw steelwork up. Most of the guys who run these drills are guys from mines who go on their own.
@@lakelifecraftsmanis this your personal boathouse or did you build it for a client? Are all of your i beams same height, or did you have larger ones in spots and need to cut those pipes lower? Did you x brace your pipes at all? Like from top of pipe to a lower on pipe? Do you think that pipe mushrooms much and locks in or do you think that it’s so thick it doesn’t mushroom much on bottom? If the pipe was 4.5” outside Diameter what size drill bit did they use in the rock?
@ronengesether1 lots of solid questions 👍. This job is for one of our clients. For the pipe size, they use a 5 inch bit. I personally dont know if it actually "mushrooms" at the bottom like they say it does, but the drift head sure makes a mess of the tops of pipe when hammering them in place. I think it does to a certain degree as we've yet to have any issues as this is an acceptable, engineered practice. As for cross bracing , yes. Depending on the height of the pipe from base to I-beams, we will X brace below water if required. This particular project was within 8 feet of bedrock on a lake that doesn't fluctuate in water height that much. So, there are no issues with ice or height. But we box frame the steel and X brace laterally above water, too. All the I-beams are 6"W15 (6x6x1/4"), and we span a maximum of 10 feet per beam. All the pipes are laser leveled and cut to the same heights. Pipes are also placed in key areas for point loads if the structure is to be aupported as well as the boat lifts inside. There's a lot o design that goes into it for structural integrity.
wow we are not allowed to put a permitted dock here when the ice goes out does not take the docks with it we have to be 50 feet from the edge of the waterway with the dock and boat life here too of the ice piles up on share line here it's ok we can use the right tool for the job when we put and take out all of the docks and lifts to we have a crane able to lift everything out or put it in too
There's no water movement really for this area. Lake of the woods can go up or down 2-3 feet but this particular dock is on a smaller body of water. Levels only fluctuate 8 inches normally. No ice flows either to pull or push on dock. What area are you from?
Thanks! 👍. It was only my 3rd flight with it and it was just a funny angle from where I was...The drone is ok. The only damage was the props breaking. More are on order!
very good video, looking forward to part 2
Glad you enjoyed it. Part 2 coming soon.
Amazing build guys! The video was put together great!
Thank you Deanne!
Where do you get the timbers from and how heavy are those big ones at the end of the video?
Timbers are sourced locally here in North Western Ontario. White Pine was used in this particular build. The timbers at the end are 6" x 14" x 17' long. They weigh approx 300 - 350 LBS each
Who did all the welding on the frame?
Welders were local hired from the area
What size pipe do you use for the legs? Do the legs get grouted or cemented or are they free standing in the bedrock?
Hi! Good question. These particular docks are installed with 4 inch schedule 40 pipe (1/4" wall thickness) and they are pilot drilled 3 feet into the bedrock, pipe installed into the 3 foot pocket, then it is smashed/hammered into place with the idea that the base of the pipe hopefully mushrooms in the hole creating an anchor. After that, its left freestanding (no mortar or concrete fill) but capped with W15 x 6 inch "I" Beam. 10 foot span max between each pipe. (Edited - correcting the auto-correct lol)
A pipe dock build of some sort is something I am interested in. I read all the comments and see that Lake of the Woods was specifically noted. I have a cabin on Oak Island in the Northwest Angle of Lake of the Woods. I am on the south side of Oak with alot of miles of open water to my south. I'm concerned about a pipe dock lasting along my shoreline, but would still like to explore the possibility of building one. I have a pipe driller that will be doing the work but am looking for any advice or concerns that someone else that has done a project like this might have. Any help would be appreciated.
@mikeringnell7913 hi there mike. Oak island in N.W.A. is just on stateside, yes? We are up to the north in clearwater bay area (and kenora).
If you're on the south side of oak island then you'll have that big traverse basin to deal with which is fine for water but can be treacherous on pipedocks for the ice/thaw season. When we sled to the Angle we always pass massive ice ridges in that basin by the Angle. If that ice flows into your pipe (which are 4" schedule 40), itll shear them like butter.
It all depends on the prevailing winds during the thaw. If you get pile ups of ice on your shore then a pioe dock may not survive. Its a significant investment to chance when facing the open basin ice.
Your driller should be drilling 3 feet into bedrock. If i recall, that basin is 20 feet roughly and a mud bottom. If you have shallow (less than 4 feet) at shore, then youll also be contending with mud jacking every season. If you'd like to discuss further or have more questions, check out boleandbranch.ca (thats us) and drop me an email. We can chat about it further to at least point you in the right direction.
Can you tell me the diameter of the pipes and wall thickness? How deep did you drill in the rock? Did you drill them yourself or hire that out ?
We use schedule 40, 4 inch pipe (1/4" wall thickness). We drill down to bedrock and then at least 3 feet into the bedrock then we underpin the pipe if need be but we wedge the pipe into the hole similar to the way a concrete anchor works. We hire it out to specialists. But we handle everything from thw steelwork up. Most of the guys who run these drills are guys from mines who go on their own.
@@lakelifecraftsmanis this your personal boathouse or did you build it for a client? Are all of your i beams same height, or did you have larger ones in spots and need to cut those pipes lower? Did you x brace your pipes at all? Like from top of pipe to a lower on pipe? Do you think that pipe mushrooms much and locks in or do you think that it’s so thick it doesn’t mushroom much on bottom? If the pipe was 4.5” outside Diameter what size drill bit did they use in the rock?
@ronengesether1 lots of solid questions 👍.
This job is for one of our clients.
For the pipe size, they use a 5 inch bit. I personally dont know if it actually "mushrooms" at the bottom like they say it does, but the drift head sure makes a mess of the tops of pipe when hammering them in place. I think it does to a certain degree as we've yet to have any issues as this is an acceptable, engineered practice. As for cross bracing , yes. Depending on the height of the pipe from base to I-beams, we will X brace below water if required. This particular project was within 8 feet of bedrock on a lake that doesn't fluctuate in water height that much. So, there are no issues with ice or height. But we box frame the steel and X brace laterally above water, too. All the I-beams are 6"W15 (6x6x1/4"), and we span a maximum of 10 feet per beam. All the pipes are laser leveled and cut to the same heights. Pipes are also placed in key areas for point loads if the structure is to be aupported as well as the boat lifts inside. There's a lot o design that goes into it for structural integrity.
wow we are not allowed to put a permitted dock here when the ice goes out does not take the docks with it we have to be 50 feet from the edge of the waterway with the dock and boat life here too of the ice piles up on share line here
it's ok we can use the right tool for the job when we put and take out all of the docks and lifts to
we have a crane able to lift everything out or put it in too
There's no water movement really for this area. Lake of the woods can go up or down 2-3 feet but this particular dock is on a smaller body of water. Levels only fluctuate 8 inches normally. No ice flows either to pull or push on dock. What area are you from?
Looking good! Shame about your drone though
Thanks! 👍. It was only my 3rd flight with it and it was just a funny angle from where I was...The drone is ok. The only damage was the props breaking. More are on order!