The Mysteries of AM2 and AM2S - End Point Assessment

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  • @efixx
    @efixx  Рік тому +5

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  • @ainsleiparker9068
    @ainsleiparker9068 Рік тому +49

    Just a few tips for anyone sitting their AM2s close to the post date of this video. The metal conduit is a 90 from an enclosure to a through box, then a double set from the through box to another enclosure, so over egg your measurements, and pay attention to the tolerances. The maximum demand for the installation was pre filled out for my exam. The pvc conduit requires a 'bubble' over a preset piece of conduit to a 90 (20-25mm), and you can use a coupler, so my advice would be do the bubble and use the coupler, it's in the spec! You are allowed to ask for more conduit if you mess it up, to a maximum of 3 times, then you will be given a pre bent piece! However this may impact your result. Pay attention to the DOL (random conductor not connected on the start circuit) and make certain the phase rotation is correct. When doing the inspection a testing, you are allowed to put right any mistakes made during the install phase. The key from the lock out kit has a hook in your bay that it belongs on, NET have deemed that a 'safe' place. Be acquainted with using a £20 multimeter as NET deems this a better tool for fault finding rather then £600 worth of Megger/Kewtech/Metrel. And as always, read the spec!

    • @detroutspinners9933
      @detroutspinners9933 Рік тому

      Thanks for that. How did you go about conducting the global IR test? Switch off the RCBO and test the whole board? Did you take out the L and N conductors when testing the RCBO separately or can you leave them in? Any help would be appreciated.

    • @ainsleiparker9068
      @ainsleiparker9068 Рік тому +5

      @@detroutspinners9933 When doing my dead tests, I already had the conductors from the ring dismantled, so to save components vulnerable to damage, I conducted my IR test at that point. Obviously, in your schedule of inspection, circuits vulnerable to damage are a prerequisite, so you would know to list them and not try firing 500v down those conductors. I personally tested it circuit by circuit to make sure no voltage was ever present where it shouldn't be. If you think you have messed something up, don't panic, the instructor is there to help you, not hinder. If you're not sure, ask the question, there is no harm in asking, and 9 times out of 10, you'll know the answer but the nerves will be getting to you. It's really as simple as just do your job, you know what you are doing, and it is no different to any other day on site, Good luck!

    • @detroutspinners9933
      @detroutspinners9933 Рік тому

      @@ainsleiparker9068 thanks for the detailed reply, I wasn’t aware that you could test circuit by circuit - I’d heard they told you to test the whole board. If you can test them individually I’d rather do that, seems easier.
      Also, how did you go about testing the heating and CO2 alarm circuits? Test them with the FCU off? Did you test the second leg, i.e after the fused spur?

    • @ainsleiparker9068
      @ainsleiparker9068 Рік тому

      @@detroutspinners9933 The heating, I tested to the SFS, I don't know how it is ok to test it to that point, but anything from there is fused so I guess it is no better than saying that any appliance with a plug top does not comply to 7671. When I tested the Co2, I just tested the conductors between the DB and the Co2 alarm with it disconnected. Again, when filling out your schedule of inspection, all circuits vulnerable to damage you will list, so that would be the boiler, the ring, the Co2 alarm and the lighting circuit.

    • @detroutspinners9933
      @detroutspinners9933 Рік тому

      @@ainsleiparker9068 so they’re ok with you not testing after the SFS on the heating? And you tested the CO2 alarm with the fused spur switched on and conductors out? I thought they wanted all covers on?
      Apologies for the quizzing, I just want to make sure I get it right. One wrong move and it’s game over apparently!

  • @britannic2000
    @britannic2000 Рік тому +9

    One thing I do when installing accessories, sockets switches etc which I think would be good to teach at college, a socket for example, wire up then push socket into back box pull back out and re tighten terminals, the conductors in terminals move as they are pushed into the back box the amount of accessories I have opened up and the conductors have fallen out, I wished I had re trained in plastering, all you need is a hawk, trowel and a criminal record, the hassle in this industry now as a trade the rewards don’t match.

    • @shahidanwar6761
      @shahidanwar6761 9 місяців тому

      Yes but they are physically retired at about 50 that plasterers we can still keep going 😊

  • @kingofgame.official
    @kingofgame.official Рік тому +5

    I did mine at AM2 Woodford Green. Assessor was great and made me feel so comfortable. It is a few long days so be prepared. I highly recommend to go to this centre if its close by.

    • @fiestamk2build134
      @fiestamk2build134 Рік тому

      im going there in 2 weeks, how did you get on

    • @kingofgame.official
      @kingofgame.official Рік тому +1

      @fiestamk2build134 can't fault the centre or assessor. Was a good experience. Just prepare yourself and take it easy. Iv passed and have my gold card. Good luck.

  • @johndillon5290
    @johndillon5290 11 місяців тому +2

    Did my AM2 in the late 80s in Enfield when it first came out. Failed first time on the testing because I had never done testing before, this was back in the days of wind up Meggers. I actually walked off the test as soon as the instructor wheeled out a trolley of multiple testers in front of me. I thought 'I'm wasting my time here' My boss wasn't too happy. I did a pre course before the next attempt and sailed through it.

  • @eddie_pegasus_electrical
    @eddie_pegasus_electrical 5 місяців тому +2

    A great guidance for learners for their AM2 / AM2S.
    A must watch if you are going through this process.
    Well done guys
    👊😎👍💙

  • @O.i5
    @O.i5 Рік тому +10

    I did my am2 just before they allowed personal tools which was annoying because I struggled a lot with the knackered side cutters they gave me, mostly because i use rounded cutters rather than side cutters in real life 🤦‍♂️

  • @steve97384
    @steve97384 14 днів тому

    In your safe isolation video, you had the lock etc ready on the top of the board enclosure, I was always to not to put anything on top at college. Great video BTW.

  • @stevespoor6567
    @stevespoor6567 Рік тому +11

    Finished mine today….. now the 5 day wait

  • @sergiofernandez3725
    @sergiofernandez3725 Рік тому +4

    Good video guys. I am sure this will help a lot of people preparing for their AM2/S/E

  • @adamthomsett4856
    @adamthomsett4856 Рік тому +3

    When measuring R1+R2 is there any particular way that the assessor prefers you to link the conductors together? Thanks in advance

  • @simthespark324
    @simthespark324 Рік тому +1

    Great information. Currently doing my 2346 Would you be able to do a video on the AM2E or is it exactly the same? Many thanks!

  • @WallsOfAbaddon
    @WallsOfAbaddon 27 днів тому

    22:52 would be interesting for you guys to make a video on (or some yt commenters to leave some examples of) more of these types of things.
    I.e. calling twin & cpc "twin and earth" etc.
    Would be keen to know what other correct vs incorrect, or just outdated terms like this exist!

  • @bernardcharlesworth9860
    @bernardcharlesworth9860 Рік тому +8

    What's really bonkers is you can't use your own multifunction meter .Nor your own null device.

    • @inputimmersion9577
      @inputimmersion9577 Рік тому +1

      Really? Wow

    • @UnimportantAcc
      @UnimportantAcc Рік тому

      Why is this a problem

    • @bernardcharlesworth9860
      @bernardcharlesworth9860 Рік тому +1

      @@UnimportantAcc function mainly ,nulling leads, two or three wire ,0 180o phase and non trip .also lockup on some meters

    • @UnimportantAcc
      @UnimportantAcc Рік тому

      @@bernardcharlesworth9860 every mft ive used has the same features, just located in different locations

  • @BodyRockerFitness
    @BodyRockerFitness Рік тому +8

    Great vid guys! Regarding the DOL/motor circuit, could the conductors be linked through for R1+R2 test and IR tests? As an alternative to doing the 2 separate readings?

  • @marcustheobald7489
    @marcustheobald7489 Рік тому +1

    Is this the test you do at the end of the 3 year apprenticeship programme or is it a test you do in your first or second year?

  • @harritucker7949
    @harritucker7949 7 місяців тому +1

    Hi gaz I got my AM2 Tuesday and feeling confident apart from testing on the motor. How would I do Zs on the motor circuit? Do I need to carry out phase rotation on the dol starter or at the actual motor?

  • @anthonystark6372
    @anthonystark6372 11 місяців тому +1

    Has anyone heard about 'GROUNDING' to your bed for health reasons? Health mats that connect to the earth in the electrical system. Would it be better to run a separate earth wire to a rod outside away from the property either to the bed or ground mat in your living room? Potentially, connecting to the mains earth wire could be dangerous with a defective circuit with largish voltages appearing on the earth. Maybe a video on this could be helpful for people who are thinking about doing this.

  • @davidclarke2513
    @davidclarke2513 8 місяців тому

    As far as I remember some years ago when I mentored an apprentice for his am2 the conduit part of the essessment you had to do 1 piece of conduit to fit a loop in system where 1 piece of conduit would have 2 90 degree bends in it without any boxes or couplers,has the test gone soft?

  • @richardpugh8702
    @richardpugh8702 Рік тому +3

    Great content as usual - question regarding R1+R2 on the Motor circuit. Assuming test centre doesn't allow manually provoking the contactor and you undertake the test in 2 stages as demonstrated, I'm guessing the assessor will expect you to un-null the MFT and then re-null it in conjunction with any Ceenorm/Probe adaptor they lend you before taking the readings of the contactor downstream leg?

    • @ainsleiparker9068
      @ainsleiparker9068 Рік тому +1

      My assessor asked me to stop splitting hairs and just record my findings, I had nulled my leads and questioned the R1+R2 readings I was receiving as 2.5mm twin from point A to point B should not be that high, and in a real world situation, I would be investigating why? I think all they want to see is that you have the capacity to look at your findings and know it is ok and know that if you think something is wrong, recheck what you have done and make sure an idiot error is not in play. When conducting my dead tests on the DOL, I tested from the source to the DOL, and then from the DOL to the motor, and added the two. It takes a couple of minutes more to do it that way.

  • @ЮрийПомаленкин

    На 22:45 потолок будет закрыт и это получится скрытая проводка, а разве у вас возможна прокладка кабеля по горючим материалам, разве не в железных трубах должна была смонтирована. В США в некоторых штатах разрешено у вас в Британии тоже 🤔🙄 На 18:30 интересное решение с блокировкой и запрещающим плакатом, у нас такого нет 💪

  • @thoughtful_criticiser
    @thoughtful_criticiser Рік тому +6

    If someone has the regulation's qualification and a degree in Electrical and Electronic (Honours) Engineering as well as post-graduate modules, allowing full membership of the IET using MIET the post nominal, alongside their BEng(Hons). How would you recommend they obtain an on the tools position?

    • @RustyOrange71
      @RustyOrange71 Рік тому +1

      Best path is to do your apprenticeship before you do your degree. Think of it as personal development. 4 years isn't really much time but it's enough to decide where you want to take your career. During a degree, there will be time between semesters when you can continue working for either your previous employer, another employer or through an agency, if you're worth your salt. Or you could take a gap year, volunteer or study abroad. If you're at university doing this degree then presumably you're seeking a top tier job, so think carefully and be sure that the work you do between semesters is relevant to your career path, ie, in a relevant industry and not just bar work. Chances are that this will dictate your career path. Best of luck.

  • @y3lks
    @y3lks Рік тому

    can you guys do safe isolation of a 3phase commando socket circuit with live DB please. AM2S coming up and there is nothing on correct procedure

  • @jurassicsparks5220
    @jurassicsparks5220 Рік тому +5

    Did mine 16 years ago. MICC was still in on the install and I messed up doing an earth loop impedance test without a “D lok” function and tripped out the RCCB’s for the other AM2 bays. When I should have asked the instructor to isolate my bay only.

  • @jensensquirrell705
    @jensensquirrell705 5 місяців тому

    Would I fail if I forgot to write about what could be damaged on the remarks page

  • @charliesteer5886
    @charliesteer5886 Рік тому +2

    Really helpful video, got my am2 coming up in a month. Worrying about the heating system quite a bit, can anyone recommend a good video on it?

    • @O.i5
      @O.i5 Рік тому +5

      Its as simple as following a to b, the drawing for the heating is just a a bunch of points you follow for example point c to point b3, no actual knowledge required, theres about 15 points if I remember right

    • @user-wk7wv8rn8h
      @user-wk7wv8rn8h Рік тому +1

      Yeah thats it, it's simple only one link to put in also; to see what's a link look what goes into one terminal and loops into another

    • @tommarshall5627
      @tommarshall5627 Рік тому +2

      Best thing to do mate is look at the wiring diagram , tells you what cable type/ where to take it too, then use the highlighters and tick the ones you’ve ran in. You have 2 hours for it but you can do it wayyyy quicker it’s mostly push fit connections

    • @ainsleiparker9068
      @ainsleiparker9068 Рік тому +1

      It's literally paint by numbers. You get a full wiring diagram.

  • @alexanderevans1434
    @alexanderevans1434 Рік тому

    Can you just do just 4 global insulation resistance for the exam instead of doing it at each circuit

  • @scottsaul
    @scottsaul Рік тому

    I've got my am1 and city and guilds part 1 and 2 so what would I be graded as please ?

  • @Persojet
    @Persojet Рік тому

    I don't know much about regulation in the UK. Can you explain why do you want an AM2 certification? Do you gain a freedom in work or what?

    • @chrisrees6195
      @chrisrees6195 Рік тому

      It’s basically your end point assessment to become a qualified electrician and proven you have all your qualifications , you can apply for your Gold card

    • @Persojet
      @Persojet Рік тому

      @@chrisrees6195 what's gold card?

    • @chrisrees6195
      @chrisrees6195 Рік тому

      @@Persojet The Gold Card is designed for those who have a variety of qualifications, including an NVQ Level 3, and a wealth of experience. It will prove your identification, qualifications and occupation. If you are looking to work unsupervised on construction sites, then you will need a Gold Card in order to do this.

    • @chrisrees6195
      @chrisrees6195 Рік тому

      AM2 is a practical assessment with a short online component, taken over 16.5 hours (2.5 days). During this time candidates undertake a series of timed tasks in specially equipped booths containing typical electrical installation wiring systems.

    • @chrisrees6195
      @chrisrees6195 Рік тому

      How does it work in your country , where are you from ?

  • @HenryKnox-xo9ho
    @HenryKnox-xo9ho 6 місяців тому

    Why test continuity of CPC to each phase?

  • @dylanmckibbin8822
    @dylanmckibbin8822 4 місяці тому

    Can anyone help with validating results and fault finding finding it hard to revise for and understand what is actually required for me to do thanks again

  • @samiahmadzai4665
    @samiahmadzai4665 Рік тому

    what is the difference between AM2 and AM2E?

  • @user-wk7wv8rn8h
    @user-wk7wv8rn8h Рік тому +7

    Some notes; most centres ask for you to connect the cables in connectors or wagos through the DOL starter.
    Don't forget to put the sliders across for global IR.
    Disconnect the rcbo fully and do IR on the ring final separately
    All faults are switched in so they won't be visual like screwing down on insulation.

    • @uplightuk8924
      @uplightuk8924 Рік тому

      What do you mean out sliders across?
      My am2 centre doesn’t allow global testing we had to test circuit by circuit

    • @user-wk7wv8rn8h
      @user-wk7wv8rn8h Рік тому

      @uplightUK on the schneider acti9 boards they have sliders to turn the busbar on for that section

    • @uplightuk8924
      @uplightuk8924 Рік тому

      @@user-wk7wv8rn8h I know, but that’s irrelevant to the IR tests are you test out the top of the breakers with them all turned off

    • @user-wk7wv8rn8h
      @user-wk7wv8rn8h Рік тому

      @@uplightuk8924 not if you're bunch testing if the sliders weren't across you'd only test that circuit.

    • @user-wk7wv8rn8h
      @user-wk7wv8rn8h Рік тому

      For a bunch test, usually you test with all the breakers on.

  • @pgecontracting4969
    @pgecontracting4969 Рік тому

    how do I get a fab EFIXX lock off kit?

  • @stephencunningham8850
    @stephencunningham8850 9 місяців тому +1

    It's a cash cow all the industry now driven by all the niceic and all training centers

  • @Wezza123
    @Wezza123 Рік тому +9

    Yea it’s really out dated,I mean they still make you make off an sy cable which isn’t even a recognised cable.

    • @efixx
      @efixx  Рік тому +5

      We will cover SY cable in our livestream next Wednesday 👍🏻

    • @user-wk7wv8rn8h
      @user-wk7wv8rn8h Рік тому

      It's changing for students starting September to include new technologies

    • @sylvianorah1367
      @sylvianorah1367 Рік тому

      Why are you saying sy cable is not recognised when it is used in the installation?

    • @stevecraft00
      @stevecraft00 Рік тому +2

      ​@@sylvianorah1367 it's not recognised by bs7671.

    • @sylvianorah1367
      @sylvianorah1367 Рік тому

      @@stevecraft00 What do you mean?
      Why is it used in high profile installations?

  • @heartworkgang2110
    @heartworkgang2110 Рік тому +1

    Equans Trevor

  • @Howt-ooo
    @Howt-ooo Рік тому

    What's with the black chap at the start of the video? Not very PC.

  • @carlmynett1271
    @carlmynett1271 Рік тому

    Took my 4 weeks ago its not as bad as u make out in ur head nerve play a massive part . Take ur time and read tge spec

  • @keithjackett9895
    @keithjackett9895 Рік тому +4

    I'd love to watch this Video but Your Voice is unbearable Fella! Can you Dub it??