BSA Goldstar 650 - First Service Guide - TEC
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- Опубліковано 20 чер 2023
- Here is an in-depth walkthrough on how to do your own first service on a BSA 650 Goldstar!
See our review of the bike here: • BSA Gold Star - The Go...
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Top tip. Before removing the petrol tank, find and prepare somewhere to put it. You don't want to be stood in your garage holding a heavy tank of fuel (they are always full when you decide to do something like this) thinking, "where the hell do I put this now?".
Thank you! Very useful and informative
I hate these shim under bucket valve adjusters. When you do have to adjust them, you have to pull the cams out bla bla bla. It's an unnecessary way to adjust valves unless you just like turning wrenches all day. I much prefer the screw and lock valve type adjusters. Yeah, you have to adjust them more often, but they are SO much easier and save time.
Honda NC is the king of valve adjustments tbh - still screw and locknut but only due every 15k miles. Should've stuck that engine in a less nerdy bike.
A very useful video, thank you 👍
Thank you for the PSA on doing your own work and not voiding the factory warranty by doing so. I've given up on trying to educate people on the fact that they need to have a dealer do their repair work, or that they need to use factory oils and filters for the entirety of their warranty, etc. Dunno about other parts of the world, but in the USA, we have the Magnussen-Moss act, which states your warranty cannot be voided simply because you changed your own oil!
Also, I worked as a dealer tech back in the 90s. If you think some kid making $12 an hour, is going over every fastener on your bike with a torque wrench, you're crazy! 😅
A machine not really designed for servicing then. No centre stand is a huge design failure.
Thank you very helpful.
I understand you have to develop parts for the newly arriving models such as the meteor and interceptor, and glad that you do-but I'm also on a waiting list for the stainless clubman pipes for 10 year old T100 Bonneville, if you already have the patterns and tubes-how hard can it be to knock a few sets up and clear the backlog? Just a friendly nudge.
Interested to see the differences from the BMW clutch location.
hello, thank you for the video, for the oil level how to read, the gauge screwed in, or the gauge installed, thank you for your response
Great video where do you get the rear shocks fitted to your bike
Hello ! Could you tell me if i remove the baffle the torque IS weaker or not ?
How did you turn the engine over to check the valve clearance? Cheers. The rear shocks look good, what make?
An interesting motor. Surprised it didn't have screw and nut valve clearance adjusters like a 2006 NT700V Honda for ease of service!
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Are you still doing interceptor 650 stuff as I am waiting for the pipes still to become available it’s be ages , I have cannon ends
Thanks James
Re-air filter, Can i ask, when you get round to replacing the air filter, are you going to stick with fitting a new standard one or one of the DNA filters?
thanks.
What a palaver getting the engine cover off ,my 650 interceptor isn't much easier either and getting the cover back on again with the gasket in place can be a real pain. Interesting video by the way , as happy as I am with my bike, I'd love to have this big single.👍
Hi George, I just wondered if you are planning to do any parts for the Voge 300 Rally. Exhausts etc.
Are there any tuning parts for bsa goldstar? Cams etc
Thanks ! 👍
Checking the valve clearing at the first service, specially on a engine with shims, seems crazy to me, my suzuki bandit have done 50K miles and have been checks twice (after 20K and 40K) and both times it have been with in specs.
Manual for my bsa says first valve check 14500
I know this is off topic, please forgive me. So hopefully by the time the Speed 400 gets released in the states probably Jan '24.....you guys will have a pipe by then, DNA will have a filter and possibly some company will crack the ECU for a good tune. I think with those mods 47 -50 hp is attainable. That puts it in RE Int 650 territory....and being 48 kg's lighter it will spank that bike easily. Cheers
It's interesting that BSA went with shims for valve adjustment instead of set screws as Royal Enfield did with their 650 twins.
I wonder what the *wait time* is to get *replacement shims* from BSA.
they are the same as used in other rotax motors and easily available from lots of pattern parts suppliers
@@georgemilburn6213 -- Valve adjustment shims are available from pattern parts suppliers?
You just need the shim diameter and thickness, if it's the same size it doesn't matter what manufacturer it's from, a shim is a shim.
@@PatrickWhitaker-ls2cs - Yeah, but how standardized are shim diameters and their minimum thicknesses? A manufacturer could design them to be just different enough to be the sole source of them.
@daveinwla6360 I've used shims from various bike manufacturers on different bikes, never had an issue, they are all hardened and as long as it's the right diameter and thickness it doesn't matter -irrespective of manufacture they are designed to do the same thing
battery tip like it !
Just a word on the R.E.interceptor oil, after doing my second oil change 18 months ago I was advised to change the grade to 20/50 which I've complied with but i'd be interested to know why it was changed ?
Who advised that change from 10W/50 to 20W/50, AladinFox? And was the 20W/50 to be fully synthetic - as RE advises for 10W/50?
Do you live in a warm climate (which would not need a 10 weight at start-up)?
@@daveinwla6360.... Hi there, it's a mild climate here in the UK. I was advised about the oil grade change by the garage where I purchased the bike and they were presumably advised by Royal Enfield. Also a well known parts supplier for my bike where I purchased the oil and filter confirmed this was the correct grade.
I'll have a chat with the garage when I'm passing next time to quiz them on the reasoning behind it and let you know. 👍
@@aladinfox4098 My guess is that 20W/50 is much easier to find (and is cheaper) than 10W/50, especially in Fully Fynthetic, and RE would prefer Fully Synthetic over the wider viscosity range in climates that don't need the wider range.
Unable to see. Under bucket or over bucket shims?
The video "BMW G 650 GS Valve Adjustment" shows that it's *shim-under-bucket* ,
which requires removal of the cam shaft to remove the followers ("buckets"),
and was designed for high rpm motors.
What about the BSA warrenty implications?
They do not trump the law!
I'm very curious as to exactly where is the second plug location, and how do you gain access?
you can see the second plug further back in the head at 8.00 next to the first one
@@markjordan899 ahh yes, I see the little sucker now 👍🏻
I thought one of the advantages of a bucket and shim set up was that it requires less frequent adjustment. 1st clearance check is at 6000 miles on my KTM 690. Why should any bucket and shim arrangement need checking at 600 miles?
24000klm on a VStrom
My manual for bsa says 1st check is 14500.
Not a criticism, but my bike's oil is checked with the dipstick not screwed in. Would make a big difference.
I agree with you on that, all the bikes I've had with the dip stick you simply rest the cap on the threads to check, not screwed in 🤔
Has using two plugs on a single been standard practice for a long time?
Two plugs on a cylinder isn't super common, but not unheard of. BMW has as well.
It has been used in bike racing for quicker fuel burn, but this application (IMHO) is to meet emission standards.
I think it must have to do with piston/cylinder size, as a larger bore needs two plugs in order to create more efficient combustion. IIRC, my 1993 Honda VT1100 had two plugs per cylinder. My 2002 VTX1800 had two plugs per cylinder, as does my 2014 KTM Super Duke 1290 R. My Super Hawk 996 had one per cylinder, as does my 2019 Triumph Speed Twin.
Nothing to do with this vido but was wondering if you are going to look at bits for the Royal Enfield 350 hunter or HNTR I have one ordered and think it will benefit from some nice bits
we already make some parts for it now , with more on the way
This appears to be rather complicated for a single. Access is tight for normal maintenance.
very informative ,, it seems a bit daft that bikes have their valves checked after one ride around the block ,, as some cars never get checked , also this engine is decades old and should be sorted by now to do 20.000 before this becomes needed ;;;
BSA UK have now changed the valve check/adjust, to first major service I have been told by my local dealer
@@georgemilburn6213 that makes a bit of sense for a change ,,
Hello, i like this new BSA, and i think may be to buy one. What is your feeling about the quality of the parts. How is reliabilty ? Merci
Some bikes (all Harleys for ex.) and almost all cars have hydraulic valve lifters, those never need to be checked and adjusted.
The b.s.a is only 47 hp ....but in India it's possible to get the bike at 90 hp !!!....why o why is that ?!
Why cant we in Europe get a b.s.a at 90 hp , it would fly out of the show rooms !.
I would buy one today , ...what do you think George 🤔, give us your thoughts 🤔.
Peace out ✌️
That’s incorrect, the bike isn’t available in India yet due to the name being owned by another company. Until that’s sorted out they can’t launch the bike in India, so UK and US markets are what they are concentrating on. The Rotax engine could be tuned to produce slightly more power but it would never be able to reach anywhere close to 90bhp.
@@timparish172,sorry but in India the bike IS sold at 90 hp ....well that's what has been stated by the ceo of b.s.a India...maybe he was lying ....or maybe one day in Europe we will see the 90 hp bike ( fingers crossed). Thank-you for your help , stay safe 👍
Well, should be possible as since BREXIT, youre no longer a part of the EU
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I think this comes from a comment he made in a video saying that they had a motor in India producing around 80 BHP. No way a motor like this would ever be sold at 80 BHP for road use and doubt even a full race spec motor could produce that with a useable powerband. It is not going to happen !
BSA TALKING ABSOUTE BULLSHIT TO GET 90HP OUT OF THAT ENGINE
OK just another small point on the oil filter, it's best practice to soak it in fresh engine oil before installation so it doesn't take an time to absorb oil on start up. 😊
@@doughoffman9463 nope, but it's just 'best practice' which ensures that the oil filter medium is already saturated with engine oil and doesn't slow the initial circulation of the oil on start up
@@doughoffman9463 look, it's entirely up to you, it's your bike do what you want and how you want, but in my 66 years this is the way I have used to save time on filling the oil filter medium, but it's your call 😉 just a side note it's also in the service manual to use semi synthetic oil at 15w50 but I switched to fully synthetic at 10w50 because it's way superior and because I'm in a colder region than India, but as I said it's entirely up to you, your call 👍🏻
@@doughoffman9463 as I said, your call 😏
What a faff, I'll stick to my Interceptor...😂
Now again another reason why I'm not a fan of that design, what idiot thought putting the chain behind the bloody exhaust was a good idea! Just makes the whole chain check/adjust harder than it needs to be 🙄 add this to no main stand and pain and arse come to mind 😮
Valve Clearance Check at first service WTAF 🤣🤣🤣🤣, No one in the car world would believe servicing requirements like that straight out of the 1950's.
Most cars made over the last 60yrs have hydraulic tappet so no valve clearance check is needed!
Easier to take bike to dealership for service
I do all my own work, including recall work and warranty work. I wouldn't trust a dealership to adjust my tire pressures! Not only do I know the sh_t is done correctly, but I enjoy wrenching on my own vehicles.
The more I see the less I want
Have a go at this cowboy you haven’t shown any one how to change shims but I guess we are in the motor now and our warranty is void with no clue what to do except go to another video because this one is useless anything to pump out another video at our expense. Why do half a video ?
Shouldn't be needing new shims after 500 miles.
Check the law, he is correct in that you can do your own servicing and retain the warranty, as long as you are competent.
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