Nicely done, gorgeous lock, and remember an open is an open. I loved how you gutted it knowing full well it would be tough, that's reality, and how we all learn, thanks for taking the leap. Good luck finding the springs, and thanks again I really appreciate the insight.
Really amazing that this precision manufacturing and complexity is so easily defeated. I'll make a giant bowl of popcorn to watch the Side Noob reassembly. :-)
I just picked my first real lock. It was only a cheap padlock and took me a bit to find the best tension bar as the keyway was a bit fiddly but thanks to your vids i was able to do it. so thank you :)
Thanks, Ash. Especially for Your bravery to gut this guy. Probably one of the weirdest lock designs i have seen so far. I pity the factory workers that had to put these together. Can you add some context on why one end is thicker than the other though?
@@LockNoob 'I don't know' is a valid answer. 😉 Makes me wonder where they were installed primarily, maybe that would shed some light. Anyway, always happy to watch you showing off rare stuff like this...
It never occurred to me that this lock could be raked! I also never noticed the odd spacing in the pins until you pointed it out; it's interesting that all the picking videos on YT so far have different ones - yours is between pins 5 and 6, LPL's is between 2 and 3, Culpeper Woodhull's is between 4 and 5 and tumbl3r's one has 2 gaps, between 3 and 4 as well as 4 and 5. I assume this is all for key control. Mine has the gap between 2 and 3 like LPLs.
I managed to get one of these on eBay a while ago, lots of very silly listings for locks with no keys as you say! Never managed to get anywhere picking it, but the rake technique seems to work quite nicely.
I _love_ your collection and am quite envious of it. I've got 54 locks currently and am always accumulating more though. Always on the look out for deals and interesting ones. Next month I'm going to hit up some flea markets while on holiday.
Wow, that is a cool lock, but I am totally confused. It's a double bitted dimple lock? But the key is double bitted twice, so it can be inserted either way up? And you used a rake for normal inline pins although it's dimples, instead of a dimple rake? I would also have liked to see a closeup of those tiny springs. I would bet that wafer is part of a master system, but no idea what use that ballbearing may serve. I'm thinking the 2 set screws were used to lock together the same way double nuts are used on a bolt to prevent them loosening.
They put 2 grub screws in so that they lock against each other with thred lock aswell. If it had one long grub screws it could vibrate loose with the door opening and closing and make the core come out when trying to open with the key. Well that's me thinking.
It's pretty common practice in all kinds of applications. I've used this method as a mechanic in a factory for stuff I wanted to make sure wouldn't come apart. Especially if I had to worry about interference or clearance.
I've got an access to 6 of these at work, ( I know about the lock in use rule 😁) spent hours trying rake them, bogotas, wave, snake etc... no lock even once.
Very cool! Also very surprised at how easily it raked open for you, but when you've got the touch, you've got the touch right?? 😁 always appreciate you sharing sir 👍👍
I've always kind of liked Banham locks and keys in an aesthetic sense, - it seems a little bit insufficient that this locks' entire range of bitting lies effectively within half the thickness of the key - makes you wonder how much torque force it would take to break it open...
You can pick a master#3 with a paperclip, Bobby pin, almost anything, I even opened one once by using a key for a different lock to rake it. But opening a REAL lock with improvised tools would be challenging.
@@forteandblues maybe ask LPL, he seems to accept a lot of challenges, and has shamed lock companies by opening locks with odd objects. He did a whole series of locks with pieces of an empty redbull can.
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One day. I’ll get around to single pin picking one of these. In the mean time here is a demonstration of how these locks can often be raked open 👍😃🔐
WOW| what an amazing mechanism - love to see you try to reassemble this lock.
what a design process to originally manufacture this lock
Between you and me… I lost a spring 😬
@@LockNoob I hate to think how much I would lose!
Nicely done, gorgeous lock, and remember an open is an open. I loved how you gutted it knowing full well it would be tough, that's reality, and how we all learn, thanks for taking the leap. Good luck finding the springs, and thanks again I really appreciate the insight.
Thank you 😊
Great video as always, never seen one of these raked before, good job on the dreaded cutting. Looking forward to seeing you SPP it
I need to find the time to practice the picking. It’s a tough one I hear
Really amazing that this precision manufacturing and complexity is so easily defeated.
I'll make a giant bowl of popcorn to watch the Side Noob reassembly. :-)
I think I made this video before the side channel existed :-(
I just picked my first real lock. It was only a cheap padlock and took me a bit to find the best tension bar as the keyway was a bit fiddly but thanks to your vids i was able to do it. so thank you :)
That’s awesome, we’ll don and happy picking!
BRAVE MAN 👍🏻
Nicely raked for the quick open. I certainly don't envy you putting that back together.
No it’s horrible lol
I'm assuming that is the one and only time you'll ever gut that lock. Very entertaining! 😆
Lol very possibly
@@LockNoob didn't expect to be proven wrong almost immediately, lol!
Glad I got to see what's inside one... Thanks
you have my sympathy putting it back together
It’s not fun lol
Never seen one raked before -- good job for showing that -- gutting was not to bad of a disaster, except for the "flying springs" = Oops!
It’s a horrendous gut
Cool lock!!
Great open😄
Not a lock you want to gut more then once!!!😬
🐾🐈🐈⬛🐾🇬🇧🍻
It really isn’t lol
I have wanted one for years but if I found one, it cost too much. Shame its so easy to rake. Maybe they will be cheaper after your video.🤔👍😁
That are crazy expensive it’s weird
Thanks, Ash. Especially for Your bravery to gut this guy. Probably one of the weirdest lock designs i have seen so far. I pity the factory workers that had to put these together. Can you add some context on why one end is thicker than the other though?
I’m not sure. Looks I’m guessing?
Maybe anti pull!
@@LockNoob 'I don't know' is a valid answer. 😉
Makes me wonder where they were installed primarily, maybe that would shed some light.
Anyway, always happy to watch you showing off rare stuff like this...
LOVE THAT PINNING TRAY
Yeah!
It never occurred to me that this lock could be raked!
I also never noticed the odd spacing in the pins until you pointed it out; it's interesting that all the picking videos on YT so far have different ones - yours is between pins 5 and 6, LPL's is between 2 and 3, Culpeper Woodhull's is between 4 and 5 and tumbl3r's one has 2 gaps, between 3 and 4 as well as 4 and 5. I assume this is all for key control. Mine has the gap between 2 and 3 like LPLs.
Just rewatched LPL's; I totally forgot he also raked it :-P
That is a very interesting observation!
that is the coolest video I have seen this week
I managed to get one of these on eBay a while ago, lots of very silly listings for locks with no keys as you say! Never managed to get anywhere picking it, but the rake technique seems to work quite nicely.
Worth a try for sure!
I _love_ your collection and am quite envious of it. I've got 54 locks currently and am always accumulating more though. Always on the look out for deals and interesting ones. Next month I'm going to hit up some flea markets while on holiday.
You never have enough lol
@@LockNoob I've had to explain that to the missus a few times in jest.
Cool lock. Good job!
Thanks 😊
Wow, that is a cool lock, but I am totally confused.
It's a double bitted dimple lock?
But the key is double bitted twice, so it can be inserted either way up?
And you used a rake for normal inline pins although it's dimples, instead of a dimple rake?
I would also have liked to see a closeup of those tiny springs.
I would bet that wafer is part of a master system, but no idea what use
that ballbearing may serve. I'm thinking the 2 set screws were used to lock together the same way double nuts are used on a bolt to prevent them loosening.
Yeah it has 2 rows of opposing pins. It’s an odd mechanism too and I can’t explain it properly here. I’ll have to do a video tat some point to clarify
@@LockNoob that would be nice😊. That lock was a bit confusing. At least to me.
They put 2 grub screws in so that they lock against each other with thred lock aswell.
If it had one long grub screws it could vibrate loose with the door opening and closing and make the core come out when trying to open with the key.
Well that's me thinking.
It's pretty common practice in all kinds of applications. I've used this method as a mechanic in a factory for stuff I wanted to make sure wouldn't come apart. Especially if I had to worry about interference or clearance.
Interesting thanks
What a fiddly lock. It looks to me like it might be shimable from the front with come core shims to help set the pins for raking?
No, no front shimming possible
I've got an access to 6 of these at work, ( I know about the lock in use rule 😁) spent hours trying rake them, bogotas, wave, snake etc... no lock even once.
They aren’t easy that’s for sure
Very cool! Also very surprised at how easily it raked open for you, but when you've got the touch, you've got the touch right?? 😁 always appreciate you sharing sir 👍👍
Thanks friend!
Thank you ☺️
I have this time of lock in my house but with holes on all the sides
Very cool Ash mate I remember when I had one of these i was scared of it😂😂🇬🇧😊🤟👊👍
I still am a little scared lol
I've always kind of liked Banham locks and keys in an aesthetic sense, - it seems a little bit insufficient that this locks' entire range of bitting lies effectively within half the thickness of the key - makes you wonder how much torque force it would take to break it open...
I never thought of that
My neck of the woods kinda locks, nice! I’ll hook you up !
It really does surprise me when people rake these locks! I have a hidden video describing picking this lock SPP if you are interested?
I am. Can I have a link?
@@LockNoob what’s the best way for me to pm you?
@@GxAxV probably email locknoobcontact@gmail.com
Nice one 👌
Thanks 🙏
I just uploaded a video of me picking a master 3 with a hair clip. You think you could pick a paclock or something harder with one?
You can pick a master#3 with a paperclip, Bobby pin, almost anything, I even opened one once by using a key for a different lock to rake it.
But opening a REAL lock with improvised tools would be challenging.
@@parapicktog7734 exactly, I’m new. I was hoping lock noob could do something impressive!
@@forteandblues maybe ask LPL, he seems to accept a lot of challenges, and has shamed lock companies by opening locks with odd objects. He did a whole series of locks with pieces of an empty redbull can.
I need to do a hair clip vid at some point for sure
If you have ever looked at how much they are new...
Eye wateringly expensive
That's somewhat embarrassing against Banham's long standing reputation of quality craftsmanship, have they not heard of rake attacks?
Well it still takes a bit of practice
@@LockNoob Yeah With rake! 😁