F-22 Raptor vs Eurofighter Typhoon: Who Would Win?

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  • Опубліковано 21 лип 2018
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    The Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor is the US Military's crown jewel when it comes to air superiority. So are there any other aircraft that could give it a run for its money? What about the Eurofighter Typhoon? Glad you mentioned that!
    Maybe that seems like a silly comparison, given the Raptor is a 5th generation fighter, and the Typhoon is only a 4.5 gen aircraft.
    Surely with stealth, the US built F-22 should best anything in the sky, right?
    But generation designation isn't everything, and comparing these two planes is not all that crazy.
    And our conclusion on which is the winning aircraft may surprise you.
    But before we talk about combat scenarios between these two birds and declare a winner, let's take a look at some of their impressive features & tech specs.
    The Typhoon has a wingspan of 36 feet (11m) & is 52 feet long (16m).
    The Raptor's wingspan is 44 feet (13.5m) & is 62 feet long (19m).
    The Eurofighter sports 2 Eurojet EJ200 engines capable of 60kN each, and 90kN in afterburner mode.
    The F-22 is powered by 2 Pratt & Whitney F119 engines that provide 116 kN each, and 156 kN in afterburner mode.
    At Altitude, the Typhoon is able to reach speeds of up to 1550 mph (2500 km/h), and Supercruise at speeds of up to Mach 1.5.
    The Raptor comes in at 1500 mph (2400 km/h), and a Supercruise of Mach 1.8.
    The Eurofighter can climb 62000 feet per minute (318 m/s), with a service ceiling of 65000 feet (20000 m), and a Combat Radius of about 850 miles (1350 km).
    The F-22 can climb 69000 feet per minute (350 m/s), also with a service ceiling of 65000 feet (20000 m), and a Combat Radius of around 500 miles (800 km)
    The Typhoon has a 27mm Mauser cannon that can fire up to 1700 rounds per minute and carries 150 rounds.
    Where the Raptor has a 20mm Vulcan cannon that can fire at up to 6000 rounds per minutes and carries 480 rounds.
    The Eurofighter can carry several Air-to-Air and Air-to-Surface missiles, which are externally mounted, such as the IRIS-T & the Brimstone.
    Since the F-22 does not mount its weapons externally, it would typically carry 6 AMRAAMs & 2 Sidewinders for an air mission, and in a ground attack scenario, just 2 of each along with 2 precision-guided bombs.
    The Typhoon's most notable avionics feature is called PIRATE, or InfraRed Search and Track technology that can detect low-observable aircraft up to 50km away, and carries chaff to thwart radar-guided missiles.
    The Raptor's Radar system can detect aircraft nearly 200km away, and uses flares to defend against heat-seeking missiles.
    Alright, so down to brass tacks: who would win? The Raptor or the Typhoon?
    Well, the answer depends on whether we are talking about combat that is Within Visual Range or Beyond Visual Range.
    In the case of a dogfight scenario, the Eurofighter is impressive once in the merge.
    Although the F-22 has thrust vectoring and a higher angle of attack tolerance, the Typhoon is able to conserve its energy better; a significant dogfighting advantage when climbing, turning, and diving are crucial to attaining a kill position.
    So for the WVR scenario, we would give our nod to the Typhoon.
    So now let's talk Stealthy Attack.
    This is where the Raptor brings its A-Game.
    Take its Stealthy design, combined with AMRAAM missiles that have a 100km range, and a radar that can detect enemy aircraft nearly 200kms away, and it's deadly advantages are clear.
    Even with the Typhoon's PIRATE, we think most days the Raptor would take out a Typhoon before it even knew the Raptor was there.
    However, soon the impressive METEOR air-to-air missiles may be carried by the Typhoon, and with its 300km range, we will be watching to see how that plays out.
    But what are the chances these two aircraft would actually meet one another in the skies?
    Well only the US Military has F-22 Raptors in service, and is not sold to other countries or militaries.
    The Eurofighter Typhoon, on the other hand, has more than 500 planes currently in use by:
    Austria, Germany, Italy, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Spain, and the UK.
    Kuwait & Qatar have more than 50 on order.
    And while its unlikely that the F-22 would encounter a Typhoon in actual combat, it is possible in the future, particularly if one of the countries with Typhoons no longer has a good relationship with the US.
    We saw it when the US sold F-14 Tomcats to Iran, and it could happen again with the Eurofighter.
    Ultimately, the success of combat between these two powerhouses comes down to a combination of the plane's capabilities and the skill of the pilot.
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  • @aidanf1654
    @aidanf1654 4 роки тому +832

    You have to feel for the enemy cause these 2 planes will be fighting side by side lol.

    • @MegaBenjamin
      @MegaBenjamin 4 роки тому +42

      Also dont forget all the other aircraft that the US has, F/A-18, F-16, F-15

    • @e90baby
      @e90baby 4 роки тому +43

      Megabenjamin not to mention the F35

    • @MegaBenjamin
      @MegaBenjamin 4 роки тому +25

      okane Nikes yea, I just went to a air show today and saw it and now I have total faith in the F-35, it is surprisingly maneuverable

    • @0riginalFIR3
      @0riginalFIR3 4 роки тому +11

      sadas asdas no other country has the f22 and the uk is the only other country to have the f35 currently so na

    • @0riginalFIR3
      @0riginalFIR3 4 роки тому +5

      sadas asdas isreal and japan arent arab states 😂 and anyways they dont have the f35. Theyve put in orders along with south korea but currently only the US and UK have operational F35’s. And no one is getting the F22. Not for a while anyways.

  • @liechtensteinball4336
    @liechtensteinball4336 4 роки тому +675

    I hope the Typhoon and the F22 will never be against each over🇩🇪🇦🇹❤️🇺🇸

    • @f_e_d-_e_2771
      @f_e_d-_e_2771 4 роки тому +21

      bum heaven *🇮🇹

    • @stormstrains818
      @stormstrains818 4 роки тому +3

      ..army terrible a has Ireland and neutral is Switzerland

    • @stormstrains818
      @stormstrains818 4 роки тому +31

      Typo, I mean Switzerland has no typhoons and irekamd doesnt either, it's actually 🇩🇪🇬🇧🇮🇹🇪🇦🇨🇵

    • @ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo8106
      @ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo8106 4 роки тому

      @@stormstrains818 melon

    • @max-mg7gk
      @max-mg7gk 4 роки тому +2

      🇷🇺: *sobs*

  • @am_staart9544
    @am_staart9544 5 років тому +1254

    You send the Raptor when you want air superiority.
    And the Typhoon when you have it.

    • @ahnungslos7029
      @ahnungslos7029 4 роки тому +52

      Faab_am_Start why? You can also send the Typhoon, when you want/need air superiority !

    • @am_staart9544
      @am_staart9544 4 роки тому +112

      @@ahnungslos7029
      The Raptor is the better AS-Fighter.
      While the Typhoon is the better Fighter-Bomber.
      This way both aircrafts could perform in their designed role.

    • @ahnungslos7029
      @ahnungslos7029 4 роки тому +3

      Faab_am_Start another question, are you from Germany? And can you explain me, what is a AS-Fighter ? In englich or german, It doesn‘t care!

    • @am_staart9544
      @am_staart9544 4 роки тому +46

      @@ahnungslos7029 Airsuperiority-Fighter.
      Luftüberlegenheitsjäger/
      Abfangjäger

    • @themiswalkthroughs4474
      @themiswalkthroughs4474 4 роки тому +34

      Faab_am_Start In a close range dogfight Eurofighter bests the raptor but at long range the raptor is a lot better

  • @lionljb
    @lionljb 2 роки тому +46

    The Typhoon is the epitome of a multi role fighter. Just such a versatile plane with lots of options of equiped armament

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  2 роки тому +3

      true

    • @Werdnasemajjamesandrew
      @Werdnasemajjamesandrew Рік тому

      Its literally a piece of shit. Put lipstick on it cause the f22 would destroy 5v1 you think metal stops a missile?

    • @preacherF-15
      @preacherF-15 Рік тому +1

      I think the latest block vipers might have a thing or two to say about that. But keep lovin' on your 'phoon, if it makes you happy. 😉

    • @MaticTheProto
      @MaticTheProto Рік тому +2

      @@preacherF-15 boo hoo

    • @preacherF-15
      @preacherF-15 Рік тому

      @@MaticTheProto Don't cry bro, it can't be that bad. What's the problem?

  • @charleyhibschweiler4555
    @charleyhibschweiler4555 5 років тому +2202

    The Cessna 172 would rip them BOTH to shreds

    • @michaeltaylor9316
      @michaeltaylor9316 5 років тому +130

      low and slow down they go.

    • @ddruprup12ify
      @ddruprup12ify 5 років тому +80

      Funny. How about a Sopwith Camel.

    • @muz2864
      @muz2864 5 років тому +5

      Charley Hibschweiler mate wrong what about ripping u to shreds

    • @noobtube8195
      @noobtube8195 5 років тому +2

      Charley Hibschweiler no no no just no

    • @nicksiegfried4906
      @nicksiegfried4906 5 років тому +33

      Toyota of the skies

  • @marauderinchief6858
    @marauderinchief6858 5 років тому +52

    Every jet is built for a specific purpose and a specific need. The Eurofighter typhoon in the hands of a skilled, well trained pilot of a modern day air force can be the deciding factor between a military victory and a shellacking.
    The F22 is a plane that is in existence for the use of an Air force that aims not to simply win battles but dominate conflicts.
    It's as much a weapon for destruction as is it a tool for deterrence.

    • @williamjordan5554
      @williamjordan5554 2 роки тому +4

      Odd last sentence. Describes any weapon.

    • @hllboi817
      @hllboi817 Рік тому

      Thing is the people in the hands of an F-22 isnt a 2nd rate Air Force, they train as well

    • @micstonemic696stone
      @micstonemic696stone Рік тому

      @@richardkrueger9097 I really liked that
      very funny

    • @SkynetT-X
      @SkynetT-X Рік тому

      @@williamjordan5554 any weapon for destruction as is it a tool for deterrence......if it works

    • @berndschreiber1167
      @berndschreiber1167 Рік тому

      Stealth per se is aggressive. Full stop.

  • @dickiemcnutsack3248
    @dickiemcnutsack3248 3 роки тому +29

    Watching the Typhoon at an airshow was an amazing sight.

  • @auraxfire
    @auraxfire 4 роки тому +232

    I’ve never seen a flying Raptor but a Typhoon flying display is the stuff of dreams. Gorgeous aircraft.

    • @MrLeet71
      @MrLeet71 4 роки тому +4

      Great videos.. just search f22 acrobatics..

    • @LRRPFco52
      @LRRPFco52 4 роки тому +23

      F-22 crushes the Typhoon for airshow displays. The first time I saw F-22 flight demo, I thought I was about to see a major disaster when it took off, lurched into the vertical, then seemed to hover without gaining altitude. Looked like it was going to do a tail slide at too low of an altitude, but the pilot just throttled forward and nosed over like it was nothing...from a standstill. The square loop, MRT, J turns, drifts, pedal turns, and high AOA maneuvers all exceed what a Typhoon can do.

    • @marcustrevor1883
      @marcustrevor1883 4 роки тому +11

      @@LRRPFco52 Idk man there's nothing like the sound of the typhoon when it screams past at 250ft

    • @marcustrevor1883
      @marcustrevor1883 4 роки тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/5BkqaXrlbsE/v-deo.html

    • @LRRPFco52
      @LRRPFco52 4 роки тому +5

      @@marcustrevor1883 The Typhoon is an impressive culmination of most of the 4th Gen fighter technology. It still behaves conventionally at the extreme edge of its performance envelope.
      When you see the F-22 flight demo, it behaves nothing like anything we had seen before on the edge of its limits, doing AOA and yaw regime maneuvers that looked like it was out-of-control, yet it is fully under control at all times.
      The only fighters that do similar maneuvers are the Su-35 and first phase Su-57 prototypes. 2nd Phase Su-57s got heavier and more sluggish, and they don't show aggressive demos with them yet that we've seen.
      The Typhoon has to be totally stripped of combat stores in order to achieve a comparable climb rate to the F-22, whereas the F-2 behaves as if it was combat-configured at all times since it uses internal weapons that are minuscule in mass compared to its fuel fraction.
      Fuel fraction is the ratio of fuel to the overall aircraft weight. The F-22A carries 18,000lbs of fuel internally.
      6 x AIM-120 and 2 x AIM-9 doesn't add up to much compared to that (1804lbs), and none of them contribute to parasitic drag like on a 4th Gen fighter, so your performance is the same with or without them, especially considering the F-22's maximum combined thrust of 70,000lb.

  • @elstevobevo
    @elstevobevo 5 років тому +393

    F-16 vs. 747?

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  5 років тому +37

      +Stephen Lode Hadn’t thought about that one 😁, though we would be in big trouble if an F-16 tried to take down a 747, especially Air Force One...

    • @elstevobevo
      @elstevobevo 5 років тому +6

      Good times! Great videos, guys.

    • @Pantone2695
      @Pantone2695 5 років тому +33

      Stephen Lode The F-16 will shoot down the 747 100% of the time.
      But I can't get up and walk around and go to the toilet in an F-16 so it's a tie.

    • @jessicasilver912
      @jessicasilver912 5 років тому +11

      Stephen Lode I'm from Phoenix, AZ and went to college at Cornell (Ithaca, NY) from 2000-2004. As you can imagine, shit was CRAZY at the airports in the northeast after 9/11. I was heading home for Christmas from Newark Int'l Airport in 2001 on either a 747 or maybe 757, and an F-16 taxied onto our runway right in front of us. We were still perpendicular to it as we waited, as were next to turn onto the runway to take off. Therefore, I had a perfect view of that single turbofan lighting up as the pilot hit the afterburner, and - no bullshit - took off completely vertically (I'm pretty sure that jet has a positive thrust-to-weight ratio). What made it infinitely cooler was he appeared to take absolutely no rolling start whatsoever. It was armed too. I could see what I can only imagine were AIM-9s on the hard points. Needless to say I got chills and was unable to stop myself as I shouted out: "FUCK YEAH AMERICA"

    • @jessicasilver912
      @jessicasilver912 5 років тому +5

      Also depends if the USAF pilots could quickly decipher Kurt Russell's Morse Code like those Navy Pilots did

  • @kevindowd8070
    @kevindowd8070 4 роки тому +108

    THIS is the video one makes when the only source of info comes from the back of a cereal box.

    • @marjanperveinis8355
      @marjanperveinis8355 4 роки тому +2

      more like Wikipedia lol

    • @kps.77
      @kps.77 4 роки тому +1

      @@marjanperveinis8355 Where do you think they get their info from

    • @marjanperveinis8355
      @marjanperveinis8355 4 роки тому +1

      @@kps.77 Dunno, maybe manufacturers official website? lol

    • @sergarlantyrell7847
      @sergarlantyrell7847 3 роки тому +4

      @@marjanperveinis8355 Even wikipedia has more info than this.

    • @randeledquilang4769
      @randeledquilang4769 3 роки тому +2

      You can't hit what you can't see....A Raptor was up against 5 F-15 in a mock dog fight and they were shutdown one by one by a single Raptor.that proves the F-22 doubters wrong!

  • @Hairysteed
    @Hairysteed 4 роки тому +196

    "Typhoon has Chaff, F-22 has Flares"
    *Facepalm*

    • @baldeagle6113
      @baldeagle6113 4 роки тому +7

      why not both

    • @illegalmemes576
      @illegalmemes576 4 роки тому +7

      Dude there different things you know that right

    • @baldeagle6113
      @baldeagle6113 4 роки тому +7

      Illegal Memes yea that’s why I’m saying it chaff for radar guided and flares for heat guided missiles

    • @cadenorris4009
      @cadenorris4009 4 роки тому +24

      When a video says that, you know they are no longer trustworthy.

    • @rakedos9057
      @rakedos9057 4 роки тому +1

      Haha yes he lost me completely at this point.
      Your comment should be on top.

  • @Buffertoob13
    @Buffertoob13 4 роки тому +37

    I love when channels like this will try to compare aircraft without knowing their purpose first lol

  • @Huski3s
    @Huski3s 5 років тому +115

    Quick edit on the F-22's top speed. What they tell you is MACH 1.8. What you don't know is this is in fact the supercruise. In full afterburner, said speed is unknown. That or the USAF won't tell us.

    • @ericcastillo4026
      @ericcastillo4026 5 років тому +8

      yea when they were first telling the public about them they fuck up and gave some specs they shouldn't have but that what happens when you don't check on the public relations people lol, cruise speed was 1.8 and with afterburner it went all the way up to 3.4 or higher, couldn't find the video when they were competing for the contract.

    • @shrayesb
      @shrayesb 5 років тому +3

      I suppose that the top speed of the Raptor must be similar or faster than the F-15's, given that the thrust of the raptor is actually HIGHER than the F-15, and the weight is also down at MTOW compared to the F-15

    • @tde1964
      @tde1964 5 років тому +1

      Huski3s Flying the raptor beyond Mach 2 would heat its skin and make it visible in infrared like a flare, negating its stealth advantage. So top speed is definitively a moot point.

    • @pyroromancer
      @pyroromancer 4 роки тому

      @@ericcastillo4026 i remember that documentary produced by the USAF with various interviews with engineers from both the yf-22 and yf-23.
      The yf-23 was faster with the General Electric engines than the yf-22 during the trials, only after the yf-22 won the contract and started producing production models did the F-22 outpace the yf-23.
      the USAF wanted a dogfighter which the raptor was better at, but the strategy of stealth kills from afar, came into view during the production model trials. which the YF-23 would have been superior at as it was faster and stealthier.

    • @6point8esspcee68
      @6point8esspcee68 4 роки тому +1

      @@ericcastillo4026
      I caught those same specs back in the day.

  • @steverobbins8964
    @steverobbins8964 5 років тому +55

    i have never seen a f22 in real life but i watched a typhoon in an airshow, and it scared the shit out of me

    • @martinw245
      @martinw245 4 роки тому +3

      I regularly go to the RIAT show in Fairford. And yes the Typhoon is phenomenal but the F22 is pretty mind blowing with vectors thrust. That's an airshow though, which isnt comparable to combat.

    • @lmao.3661
      @lmao.3661 4 роки тому

      i see them most days fly over

    • @bluejay4812
      @bluejay4812 4 роки тому

      steve robbins If you think the Typhoons scary the F22 is so much more dangerous and scarier

    • @JulesD92
      @JulesD92 4 роки тому +3

      @@bluejay4812 weird how even a Viper kicks its as..
      I'll take the Typhoon.

    • @bluejay4812
      @bluejay4812 4 роки тому +2

      Julian Duepre I find it funny how the Viper doesn’t beat it, the F22 was and still is the best air superiority fighter.

  • @sergarlantyrell7847
    @sergarlantyrell7847 3 роки тому +13

    Hardly a fair comparison... the Typhoon costs roughly $185 million each (program cost for the UK divided by the number of aircraft) compared to $360 million each for the F-22 (calculated in the same way).
    So the F-22 is effectively twice as expensive as the Typhoon, so a fairer comparison would be 2x Typhoons vs 1x F-22.
    Also, comparing stuff like length and wingspan is meaningless and shouldn't be used in any comparison beyond the toddler's edition of top trumps. What you neglected to factor in was mass.
    The F-22 might be much more powerful but it's also a much heavier aircraft, weighing about 29 tonnes loaded compared to 16 tonnes for the Typhoon, so the F-22's power to weight is only 1.08 vs 1.15 for the Typhoon (both in fighter configuration with full internal fuel).
    And then there is wing loading, which affects manouverability (if they get to winin dogfighting range). Again the F-22's mass hurts it badly, with 377 kg/m^2 vs 312 kg/m^2 than the smaller and lighter Typhoon.
    Then there is the stealth question, a 300km missile isn't going to do the Typhoon much good if it can't see the F-22 till it's 20km away. Equally, the "200km radar" (which doesn't actually mean it will see Typhoon at 200km, just something like a B-52 or Tu-95) of the F-22 will be practically useless, because as soon as it turns it on, it's sending out a beacon for the enemy to locate it, so it will be relying on targeting info from AWACS (come to think of it is the perfect target for a 300km range missile...) or ground-based radar.
    It will be a bit like a game of cat-and-mouse, each side trying to take out each other's radar spotters.

    • @spectermad9180
      @spectermad9180 2 роки тому

      Well its about the Country the USA spend alot because there ready to protect us the American people...and we help out many other Country...its just we get it... we can never like Europe go to sleep... And let everything happen and not be able to do nothing about nothing... The United States don't work that way if there's a problem we fix it...or we put are Boot in someone ass...remember the world looks to America for help with everything..we even take care of Europe...

    • @jameskester7745
      @jameskester7745 Рік тому

      I believe this is incorrect, the thrust to weight ratio of an F22 is around 1.72. I believe it is the most of any fighter, and is why it can super cruse without the use of afterburner. It's also why it can come to a complete stop in the air, and then regain its energy w/o having to point its nose towards the earth.

    • @dazhibernian
      @dazhibernian Рік тому +2

      I heard the Typhoon has a more comfortable seat & an extra cup holder.

    • @remulsive9558
      @remulsive9558 3 місяці тому

      Not really on the last part, the F-22 has AESA radar with LPI characteristics. It won't be easy for the typhoon to pick up

  • @warpdriveby
    @warpdriveby 3 роки тому +13

    With a significantly larger total wing area, double the available thrust, and vectoring, wouldn't the F-22 be able to turn inside the Typhoon? How did you calculate the performance of each fighter? You awarded the typhoon for climbing but at 318 fps, its slower than the F-22's 350 fps!! That's just... moving on! What do you mean by energy conservation? Are you saying that the Typhoon has less drag? What characteristics and properties does it have and what type of energy is conserved? The Typhoon is an excellent and gorgeous fighter. The F-22 can and has won training games against multiple F-15Cs... If you let that sink in I think it looks like this is not an evaluation that gives us insight into the best deployment of these two. The F-22 would play the dominant air superiority role, intercepting and killing whatever needs dead. The typhoon is a fantastic multi-role fighter and even lacking true stealth capability, is a formidable and deadly fighter.

    • @W1ckedRcL
      @W1ckedRcL Рік тому +1

      @Kilian Klaiber Although your assessment is technically correct, your lack of knowledge in ACM as it applies to the performance of each aircraft is severely lacking.

    • @preacherF-15
      @preacherF-15 Рік тому

      @@W1ckedRcL really? I thought he was pretty accurate. I've spent a lot of time hassling upstairs, where would you say he falls so short?

  • @legitwalrus7639
    @legitwalrus7639 5 років тому +55

    Eurofighter is beautiful piece of engineering 😍

    • @carlitoxb110
      @carlitoxb110 4 роки тому +2

      they both are, it's a shame they are deadly killing machines

    • @TboneI989
      @TboneI989 4 роки тому +1

      Carlitox b I’m the opposite, I think the Raptor is an absolute beaut and menacingly cool looking 😎

  • @ProjectDaVinci
    @ProjectDaVinci  5 років тому +61

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    • @tungbui8448
      @tungbui8448 5 років тому

      1st

    • @nedimharacic1809
      @nedimharacic1809 5 років тому +1

      Pls do SAAB JAS Gripen vs Eurofighter typhon

    • @tradfi950
      @tradfi950 5 років тому +2

      The F 22 trashed the typhoon in mock dogfight

    • @littlesebastian4389
      @littlesebastian4389 4 роки тому +1

      F-22 v Chengdu J-20, who would win? Just a shame the Russian SU-57 is not looking likely unless Russia can get India to help them pay for it. Obviously I never want any of these nations to use these planes against one another, but as machine this are breathtaking.

    • @jashargubetini2477
      @jashargubetini2477 4 роки тому

      @@tradfi950 other way around dude...

  • @noseefood1943
    @noseefood1943 4 роки тому +18

    Saw F-22 at the Point Mugu air show and convinced it uses alien technology.

    • @halcionkoenig243
      @halcionkoenig243 4 роки тому +2

      It's first reveal showed its ability to climb vertically was nuts, and there were older videos showing the plane flying upside down, backwards, and hovering.
      So to be honest, I'm not sure what it's capable of, but the Airforce's secrecy almost got it replaced by the inferior F-35.

    • @That_Awesome_Guy1
      @That_Awesome_Guy1 4 роки тому +1

      @@halcionkoenig243 The f35 was never going to replace the f22. The f35 and f22's will always work together. Also, the f35 is only inferior in speed and maneuverability, but that's not what its meant for anyways. It can see anything hundreds of miles before it can see them making it a perfect companion for the f22.

    • @geemonster9179
      @geemonster9179 4 роки тому

      I prefer the YF-23 now that's a futuristic bird

    • @Doflaminguard
      @Doflaminguard 3 роки тому

      @@That_Awesome_Guy1 inferior in maneuver and stealth.

  • @oes2546
    @oes2546 4 роки тому +18

    Why model the two seater Eurofighter?
    (The normal one is so damn beautiful!)

    • @Ruffstantin
      @Ruffstantin 4 роки тому

      They are for flight education, but can be used for all types of missions that the single seater can do with a little less range, because the internal fuselage is smaller at the two seater.

  • @hansgruber788
    @hansgruber788 5 років тому +378

    The Supermarine Spitfire would annihilate both ;)

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  5 років тому +23

      I guess anything is possible

    • @bfx20018f
      @bfx20018f 5 років тому +28

      P-51 Mustang would do them all in.

    • @znaz9012
      @znaz9012 5 років тому +7

      Brent Fox a b17 with a LOT of guns

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  5 років тому +42

      A camouflaged Wright Flyer with a Bazooka might have a chance...

    • @lavolpe8525
      @lavolpe8525 5 років тому +22

      Chuck Norris with an umbrella and a boomerang leaves no chance of survival.

  • @r2dxhate
    @r2dxhate 5 років тому +23

    I'm glad this happened in a youtube simulation, because it's something that should never happen in real life.

  • @patrolpilot3756
    @patrolpilot3756 4 роки тому +17

    The Typhoon is a wonderful aircraft and I'm glad they are on our side, but you can't hit what you can't see. I'm going Raptor in this one.

    • @s5c517
      @s5c517 4 роки тому +1

      True but the noise of the typhoon sums it up

  • @George-xb5ey
    @George-xb5ey 4 роки тому +5

    F 22 just looks incredible.

  • @michaelshort7297
    @michaelshort7297 5 років тому +159

    Umm no! You're comparing apple's to oranges. The F-22 is a purpose built air superiority fighter. The odds of these 2 meeting in the merge are simply astronomical. F-15 pilots have gone up against 1 F-22 and were completely outclassed. 5 and 6 to 1 odds and they were (killed) without ever having seen the F-22.
    Part of it's ability is psychological, if an opponent believes there is a stealth fighter in the area and has no chance of locating or much less targeting it things become very unpleasant for that individual.
    It was a fun video though.

    • @trainboyben7718
      @trainboyben7718 5 років тому +3

      Michael Short well the Eurofighter is an interceptor fighter which can carry payloads for ground attack they’re for the same purpose but one is stealth

    • @michaelshort7297
      @michaelshort7297 5 років тому +20

      @@trainboyben7718 my point being, the F-22 would kill it before the other pilot even knew he was under attack.

    • @trainboyben7718
      @trainboyben7718 5 років тому +6

      Michael Short i guess your right their either way their both beautiful beasts

    • @michaelshort7297
      @michaelshort7297 5 років тому +7

      @@trainboyben7718 Yes, very much so!!

    • @stupidburp
      @stupidburp 4 роки тому +7

      It depends on some other factors. An F-15X with the aid of data links from supporting modern ground and air radars would be able to detect and track an F-22 at medium range while having vastly more firepower that could overwhelm the stealth fighter pilot. In a more neutral scenario with both unassisted the F-22 has an advantage but the gap is much narrower than with older legacy F-15C. Typhoon has some upgrades that have significantly improved performance and it could also have some chance against an F-22 in a scenario where it has local support.
      Of course none of these fine aircraft should ever go up against each other anyways. The more pertinent question is how they would fair against likely opposition such as Su-27 derived aircraft. In that case The F-22 is likely to have a larger advantage but the Typhoon will nevertheless result in more enemy kills and F-15X having the most kills because of weapons loads available. F-22 and F-15X working together could result in the most kills with the least losses as the stealth aircraft designates targets for the F-15X to take down from extreme range.

  • @martijn9568
    @martijn9568 5 років тому +132

    Wow, people that compare energy retention. You don't hear that to often. Nicely done guys!

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  5 років тому +9

      Thanks for noticing the nuance. There were so many other details we wanted to bring into this video, but we didn't want to take forever getting videos out.

    • @angloempire6935
      @angloempire6935 5 років тому +2

      Wombat
      I love energy fighter warbirds

    • @kyde9921
      @kyde9921 5 років тому

      Energy fighting is so important to dog fighting. Armchair pilots often dont speak of this

    • @J7Handle
      @J7Handle 5 років тому +4

      I find the consideration of energy fighting a bit nonsense.
      The purpose of energy fighting is to gain a position the enemy does not have enough energy to get on target. This usually means that you are trying to get above the enemy.
      However, the F-22 has thrust vectoring, so if the Typhoon were to attempt extending the distance, the F-22 would get a radar lock, and if the Typhoon tried to gain altitude over the F-22, the F-22 would simply use its high TWR, thrust vectoring, and angle of attack to get the nose up and fire.
      I simply don't see the Typhoon winning any dogfight.

    • @danzervos7606
      @danzervos7606 5 років тому +1

      I wonder about that. A canard with a delta wing supposedly bleeds off energy quickly in maneuvers.

  • @Matze239
    @Matze239 3 роки тому +39

    To quote a german airforce fighter after Red Flag: "Yesterday we´ve had Raptorsalad for lunch."

    • @vkqtran4721
      @vkqtran4721 3 роки тому

      F-22 Pilots: *smirk

    • @Matze239
      @Matze239 3 роки тому

      @@vkqtran4721 just go Google it if you don't believe me💁‍♂️

    • @vkqtran4721
      @vkqtran4721 3 роки тому

      @@Matze239 That’s not the point of my comment... *facepalm

    • @ser43_OLDC
      @ser43_OLDC 3 роки тому +3

      Also Spanish pilots of typhoon win against f22

    • @danielasare1165
      @danielasare1165 2 роки тому +2

      Of course the typhoon is not a bad plane it's very impressive so it's expected it will make a win and it did. But have you checked the Raptor's WVR wins against the typhoon? And do you know the American plane is not allowed to operate in the full spectrum of it's capabilities during these exercises? Did you know? Take all of that into account and rethink your stance.

  • @blazinggamez5512
    @blazinggamez5512 4 роки тому +3

    Not to mention the F22 is one of americas Exclusive jets that no other country has..its just too superb

    • @maceo1923
      @maceo1923 4 роки тому +1

      Eurofighter with mach 6 scramjet AA rocket meteor shout down everthing

    • @noodles169
      @noodles169 4 роки тому

      Yeah, so amazing that the f22 is being fazed out and replaced by the f35

    • @Sedna063
      @Sedna063 4 роки тому

      @@noodles169 It won't be replaced.

  • @greigsanderson
    @greigsanderson 5 років тому +17

    Depends on the pilot.

    • @kenbarney3843
      @kenbarney3843 4 роки тому +1

      At the most recent joint exercises, Typhoon pilots said they had no idea tbd Raptors were even there.

  • @RRaymer
    @RRaymer 5 років тому +8

    Once the proposed Tempest specifications are out, that would be an interesting jet for sure

    • @SuperGeronimo999
      @SuperGeronimo999 5 років тому +1

      Yeah... see you in 20 years!

    • @RRaymer
      @RRaymer 5 років тому +3

      SuperGeronimo999 They of course would show specs way prior to when the jet will be operational.

    • @SuperGeronimo999
      @SuperGeronimo999 5 років тому +1

      See you in 10 years then. Haha, just kidding!
      But you think so? I believe the requirements will change a hundred times, and the specs will be final once the bird is near-operational. And most likely there will be a LRIP, and the proposed engine isn't ready just yet (just look at the Su-57 and J-20) and will change later on.
      I don't take any specs for granted, until this bird is flying as is.

  • @alelupo77
    @alelupo77 4 роки тому

    Great video! Looking forward for more.
    Being a F-22 Pilot has been my dream since I was a kid.

  • @picklerick7953
    @picklerick7953 4 роки тому +4

    I've always been fascinated with the f22 it's such a sleek good looking death machine

  • @kirad2234
    @kirad2234 5 років тому +11

    Yes it may depend on the aircraft being flown but the main difference and factor is how skilled the pilot is. If u put a highly skilled pilot against a less skilled one, no matter which Jet they're flying, the highlh skilled pilot would win. Its all down to how good the pilot is and how well he can conserve his weaponry aswell as use of his technical abilities

    • @SuperGeronimo999
      @SuperGeronimo999 5 років тому +1

      Exactly. Unless we have AI controlled unmanned fighter jets in future, it still mostly depends on the pilot.

  • @goatee01
    @goatee01 5 років тому +5

    Impressed by the animations and models, takes these vids to the next level.

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  5 років тому +1

      So glad to hear it! It’s a lot of work for just the two of us but we have a lot more planned!

  • @antonio3026
    @antonio3026 4 роки тому

    Most informative aviation site so far, great job guys.

  • @leopard2109
    @leopard2109 2 роки тому

    Where did you get the 50km from ? I see data which shows 185-210 km of range for pirate

  • @TheOriginalMrShadow
    @TheOriginalMrShadow 5 років тому +12

    Being a Brit you'd think I would be biased? Not at all. I think it could be quite a close cut comparison, both of the tools having their own good and bad points. The thing that scares me the most with the Raptor (aptly named) is the bloody price, but shoving that out of the way. The Avionic suites on both of the tools are quite impressive, for the time they were designed. Somewhat backward of what is available today. In reality it is all down to the skill and experience of the lucky sod sat in the operators seat. It would certainly be beyond incredible to watch (if they were in visual, of course) these beautifully cut pieces of composite material do the things they were designed to do. Both the U.S of A and the Brits have had for a long, long time an ability to manufacture battle winning Aircraft. I would have to say both the Tools, under the right conditions could well be upon par. What would have been a better comparison would have been how the two would match up to the notorious SU37/57/T50 (pac fa). Now I think that would be a challenge deffo for the Typhoon (maybe) and perhaps more of a challenge for the equally stealthy Raptor. The way that Russian aircraft seems to defy the forces of gravity is something well worth watching. In peace time of course, hahahaha. Nuff said!! ;-o

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  5 років тому +5

      Well said. And it's US and Aaaaaey (Borat reference). We were impressed at how capable the EFT was, as you just look at the two planes and assume based on looks that it can't be that great. Anyhow, hopefully these two guys never have to meet for real.

    • @wadopotato33
      @wadopotato33 5 років тому +3

      The last Raptor off of the assembly line cost 138$ million. The current price of the Eurofighter is 140$ million. Had the Raptor continued in production the prices would have been similar. The F-22 has similar turning abilities as the Russian planes.

    • @mrbrainbob5320
      @mrbrainbob5320 5 років тому +1

      You literally said nothing the f22 is superior to the EFT

  • @glee_bus
    @glee_bus 5 років тому +8

    Both planes are good in their case. Comparing them is not entirely correct, but in this video it turned out quite well. Thanks to the author.

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  5 років тому +4

      Thanks for the comment, and yeah, comparing them to each other in terms of head to head is kind of fantasyland, but what about if one or both of these (working together) came up against something else, like a MiG or something from China? That could be another video...

    • @glee_bus
      @glee_bus 5 років тому +3

      Two Bit Aviation, I'm looking forward to it ;D

  • @noodles169
    @noodles169 4 роки тому +10

    I'm American, but I have to say, I love the typhoon. It looks like a shark of the skys

    • @DeHerg
      @DeHerg 4 роки тому +3

      I'm European(German) and I have to say the F22 still wins because it is superior in the first (long range) round and in A2A there are no second rounds.

  • @tonygeddes9558
    @tonygeddes9558 2 роки тому +16

    The Eurofighter plus Meteor is perfectly capable of taking on the F-22 Raptor. I’m sceptical about just how stealthy the Raptor really is. Regardless of what you’re flying, Good Luck if you go up against a Eurofighter equipped with Meteor.

    • @joshuabarnhart9601
      @joshuabarnhart9601 Рік тому +6

      There’s no way the F 22 doesn’t win.

    • @XTCyMAN
      @XTCyMAN Рік тому +2

      @@joshuabarnhart9601 in your mind..

    • @jameskester7745
      @jameskester7745 Рік тому

      @@XTCyMAN oh stop, the Eurofigher wouldn't last ten seconds against the raptor. The F22 has every advantage, and could fly circles around any 4th gen aircraft. To even believe the Eurofigher would even stand a chance, is just saying your a fan boy, because it's a pipe dream

    • @XTCyMAN
      @XTCyMAN Рік тому

      @@jameskester7745 he stealth advantage is not so clear it is on the paper i want to see in the real life...why the B 2 is substituted by b 21?.....the 4.5 4.3 5 .6 gen all of this are only based in suppositions on the paper..if f 22 is detected and bleive me it is not so impossible right now the EF 2000 is 55% vs 45% in shoot down capacity to each other

    • @NathanLFord
      @NathanLFord Рік тому

      Yeah I think you have way to much doubt. The F-22 is a plane that in my opinion with a well trained USAF pilot would put all fighters in the ground quicker than they could blink an eye.

  • @chrisyboy666
    @chrisyboy666 5 років тому +186

    Total waste of time 2 different Aircraft completely designed for different roles can’t compare them on and eggs vs eggs basis

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  5 років тому +33

      Comparing eggs vs eggs is always a dangerous job.

    • @ausintune9014
      @ausintune9014 5 років тому +11

      both multiroles..

    • @viccao8431
      @viccao8431 5 років тому +10

      Ausintune f22 is mainly air superiority

    • @wadopotato33
      @wadopotato33 5 років тому +15

      Both were designed for air superiority and as top cover aircraft in the high and low mix. Absolutely this is an apples to apples comparison. Although both have become multirole.

    • @joegallo8620
      @joegallo8620 5 років тому +7

      @@wadopotato33 f22 is not a multi role by any stretch of imagination. The f22 is air superiority and only that. They keep those things so locked away that they don't even use them for interception when Russia buzzes the border. A way better comparison would have been the F/a and F 18's vs the typhoon. During wargaming exercises between the F22 and the typhoon. the Europeans said they won 2/6 of the sorties when they were magically placed in proximity of the F22. during real scenarios they said they got shot down before they even saw the F22

  • @lfly6700
    @lfly6700 5 років тому +38

    How about Spitfire vs bf 109.
    Amazing Video

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  5 років тому +7

      Thanks for the kind comments and suggestion. Our next video might be something helicopter-related, but then after that it's wide open. I am more of a WWII guy myself, and so we will add this to our list!

    • @martijn9568
      @martijn9568 5 років тому +3

      Might I ad that you can't directly compare a Spitfire and an bf109. Since a Spitfire mk24 is a totally different beast from the mk 1, the same goes for the bf109.

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  5 років тому +2

      We might also be looking at some of the lesser known WWII aircraft, and maybe even other nations besides US, Britain, Germany, and Japan, which had some interesting planes. Like Russian Yaks, some Italian planes, etc.

    • @MoccaLG
      @MoccaLG 5 років тому +2

      I have seen a report of an old spitfire pilot who told his story about an crashed bf 109. - In the end the winner was who has a better rate of climb. The one who has its enemy first at its 6 o clock position wins. BUT he said after taking a look on a bf109:"If I would have knewn about how bad the visibility is in this cockpit was I would have attacked more agressive"

    • @tesstickle7267
      @tesstickle7267 5 років тому

      Two Bit Aviation Britain had plenty of amazing aircraft, Lancaster bomber, mosquito fighter bomber,avro vulcan nuclear bomber. Alot of which aren't massively known to many people

  • @danielfronc4304
    @danielfronc4304 4 роки тому +4

    It always depends on the pilot and their experience when going against one another. Also, the AWACS is a trump card.

  • @KevinSmith-qi5yn
    @KevinSmith-qi5yn 4 роки тому +8

    Currently the only match for the F-22 is the YF-23. But I am fairly certain the US is developing 6th generation fighters.

    • @coty.ott0359
      @coty.ott0359 4 роки тому

      Nahh they canceled f22 because it’s to advanced and don’t need so we made the f35 which is still better

    • @babyyoda3497
      @babyyoda3497 3 роки тому

      So you think the us is working on a 6th Generation Fighter after they finished their F-35 programm? Ok I don't think so

    • @KevinSmith-qi5yn
      @KevinSmith-qi5yn 3 роки тому

      @@babyyoda3497 It's been nearly 30 years since the YF-22 began development. Yea I think they are working on a replacement.

  • @IC3XR
    @IC3XR 5 років тому +137

    F22 wins. In 1st world modern air warfare you’ll almost NEVER see within visual range combat. The F22’s full capabilities are also much more secretive and would likely dominate.

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  5 років тому +11

      We have gotten the secretive comment a lot. I guess it's not surprising that governments don't really like to give out real specifications!

    • @IC3XR
      @IC3XR 5 років тому +7

      Indeed. Great video though, I thoroughly enjoyed it

    • @anthonyortiz264
      @anthonyortiz264 5 років тому +1

      But it's literally fucking huge and loud it may be steslthy but that would be against cold war aa which russia has modernized or change completely modern aa are built to find the gaps than the plane itself

    • @IC3XR
      @IC3XR 5 років тому +13

      Karl Marx loudness and size of an aircraft doesn’t mean jack shit in a modern air to air engagement. And this is a head to head scenario, not with fucking aa

    • @anthonyortiz264
      @anthonyortiz264 5 років тому

      Kinda of does hell if some one could hear the plane screeching before the missle even fires

  • @firehomefireq8
    @firehomefireq8 5 років тому +152

    The better pilot will win obviously

    • @ghostmourn
      @ghostmourn 5 років тому +30

      Maybe not in this case. Stealth is an unfair advantage.

    • @atitop408
      @atitop408 5 років тому

      Their is no advantage in Stealth, we can see that in the 90s. F-117A shootdown and America thout they cant see us.

    • @ghostmourn
      @ghostmourn 5 років тому +21

      Well you are either stupid or just uneducated. We dismantled Iraqs whole Air defense system with the F-117 and didnt loose a single plane. At the time Baghdad was the most well defended area on earth next to Moscow. Traditionally (Pre stealth.) this would cost hundreds of planes.

    • @atitop408
      @atitop408 5 років тому +3

      How you talk with me? Stupid or uneducated? Wow. First of all Attacking Baghdad is like stealing a loli from a kid. From Old 72A tanks against Abrams? F-117 Vs old Aircrafts? Okay. Maybe a lot of Stuff of Defense but doesnt matter, Iraq force just have Bullshit equipment and an Army without courage. Let me now if America wins a war against an equal enemy. Ahh stopp never done in History.

    • @ionizedbeam8089
      @ionizedbeam8089 5 років тому +10

      +Atabek Top well it's bomb bay was open so it lost the stealth.

  • @DrKnow-ye6rv
    @DrKnow-ye6rv 4 роки тому +79

    You failed to mention that carrying weapons externally severely limits all of those performance parameters.

    • @nerfwatson5747
      @nerfwatson5747 4 роки тому +6

      well it is still insanely manueverebel even with extra drag from bombs and missles so yeah I am also saying that because I am british and it is a british jet

    • @hueydevotedUH1
      @hueydevotedUH1 4 роки тому +8

      And increases radar visibility.

    • @sergarlantyrell7847
      @sergarlantyrell7847 3 роки тому +4

      Performance parameters (unless otherwise stated) are usually calculated with a "fighter"/"interceptor" armament (ie 2 IR guided short-range missiles, and 4 AR guided medium range missiles) and internal fuel (either full or half capactiy).

    • @jalfrezimonster
      @jalfrezimonster 3 роки тому +2

      I'm not sure you will find a more agile jet than a Typhoon.

    • @jalfrezimonster
      @jalfrezimonster 3 роки тому

      @Bobby Brady im not sure you completely understand. The f16 is an amazing aircraft, no doubt. It cannot and doesn't touch a Typhoon in any form. It is considerably slower, its flight envelope isn't as large, its ceiling is lower, its rate if climb is massively slower, its weapons systems are not as impressive or advanced. Have a quick look at operation red flag👍 The f16 is however a fantastic airframe, desired the world over. It can pull 9 g's, it is cheap to produce. Can it live with a Typhoon? Not in the same bracket

  • @almightyIrie
    @almightyIrie 5 років тому +3

    Pretty sure the typhoon has a proper radar as well and IRST is just a bonus.. That being said, F-22 all day, even after the merge.. Thrust vectoring + 9X = quick end WVR

  • @mikgol81
    @mikgol81 5 років тому +3

    "our conclusion on which is the winning aircraft may surprise you" - it did! didn't expect no conclusion :p

  • @jackhiggins233
    @jackhiggins233 5 років тому +3

    Smart videos bud good job 👍

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  5 років тому +2

      Thank you for the kind comment. What planes or versus videos would you like to see in the future?

  • @3dmax911
    @3dmax911 4 роки тому

    thanks a lot !!
    can you make a video about su35s vs f22 raptor ?

  • @maverick8697
    @maverick8697 3 роки тому

    What is your source saying that the Typhoon is better at climbing, turning (is it ITR or CTR) or energy conservation?

  • @zeppirl
    @zeppirl 5 років тому +4

    Eurofighter was the best in its day a decade ago. It needs a update in the next decade. Tech needed has advanced.

  • @bronzebackwrangler
    @bronzebackwrangler 5 років тому +3

    Definitely a video about the a10 warthog

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  5 років тому +2

      The A10 is most definitely coming. Because it's a "Feature" like the V-22 video, it takes longer than the "VS" videos which are shorter. But it's coming, as the A-10 has got to be in my top 5 aircraft of all time.

  • @judmaierm7752
    @judmaierm7752 4 роки тому +5

    The Eurofighter Typhoon has Chaff/Flare capability even from the first iteration

  • @Naveseya
    @Naveseya 4 роки тому

    Is there a specific reason you're showing the double-seater (trainer) version of the Typhoon in the video?
    fyi: both the Typhoon and Raptor have flares AND chaff to counter heatseeking missiles and radarguided missiles respectively - not just either one of these.

  • @octoman_games
    @octoman_games 5 років тому +138

    A LOT of the F22's capabilities are unknown..so..

    • @ryannichols8315
      @ryannichols8315 4 роки тому +15

      That's the problem with these comparison videos. 50 years ago the Raptor would be a classified aircraft that nobody even knew about. But it's nearly impossible today to have a secret aircraft. But they keep some of its capabilities secret.
      Most of the time the f22 flies without it's full stealth capability. So nations like China and Iran can't practice tracking it.

    • @isaiahlee2902
      @isaiahlee2902 4 роки тому +9

      @Repent_And_Follow_Jesus World umm, sure, but I think you're in the wrong comment thread...
      Edit: you might want to work on your punctuation too...

    • @thomaswijgerse723
      @thomaswijgerse723 4 роки тому +3

      @Repent_And_Follow_Jesus World wrong video mate...

    • @raytrench2265
      @raytrench2265 4 роки тому

      If they are unknown how do you know?

    • @raytrench2265
      @raytrench2265 4 роки тому

      @Alex Tourigny that could be true of any aircraft - full capability not known. I recall a German Typhoon pilot saying they had 'Raptor salad for lunch'

  • @ClarksonsinUSA
    @ClarksonsinUSA 5 років тому +36

    2 kinds of Aircraft,Stealth and Targets!!!

  • @panzerkampfwagenvitigeri2080
    @panzerkampfwagenvitigeri2080 3 роки тому

    So much information in a 5 minute and a half video, nice!

  • @unitedkingdomboyunitedking327
    @unitedkingdomboyunitedking327 4 роки тому +1

    Ave seen a typhoon training off the north west coast of England just out at sea ,it was nr the deck then just went virtical on the spot , straight up , the speed and the way it moved made it look like something out of this world , it was something to see

    • @davidsoltai8905
      @davidsoltai8905 4 роки тому

      united kingdom boy united kingdom boy Yeah the Sombitch got scared by a Raptor WANKERS

    • @unitedkingdomboyunitedking327
      @unitedkingdomboyunitedking327 4 роки тому

      @@davidsoltai8905 I hope the raptor is even better than the typhoon 🇬🇧🇺🇸👍

  • @RapperFlo
    @RapperFlo 5 років тому +9

    How can you say that the Typhoon has better energy conservation and an advantage in climbing if you stated in your own comparison 1 min ago, that the F22 has double the thrust and higher climbrate???

    • @xxnightdriverxx9576
      @xxnightdriverxx9576 5 років тому +2

      the F22 is also a lot heavier. So double the thrust does not mean anything. The F22 is also not designed for a dogfight, but the Typhoon is. I personally think that it comes much more down to the split second decisions the pilots have to make.

  • @forzaisspeed
    @forzaisspeed 3 роки тому +3

    The Eurofighter is just the best end of, not to mention out of the 2 the Eurofighter has a positive win rate over the F-22.

    • @ALLAHALLAHism
      @ALLAHALLAHism 2 роки тому

      Definitely not.

    • @forzaisspeed
      @forzaisspeed 2 роки тому

      @@ALLAHALLAHism
      Kid the Eurofighter is better deal with it.

    • @ALLAHALLAHism
      @ALLAHALLAHism 2 роки тому

      @@forzaisspeed cope

    • @forzaisspeed
      @forzaisspeed 2 роки тому

      @@ALLAHALLAHism
      Kid grow up.

    • @ALLAHALLAHism
      @ALLAHALLAHism 2 роки тому

      @@forzaisspeed as soon as you stop being wrong and simping for clearly inferior fighter crafts. You must honestly be on some amazing drugs to think the the eurofighter would ever beat an f22 let alone detect it before being shot down.

  • @ioannistsagas5290
    @ioannistsagas5290 4 роки тому

    Very nice video - thumbs up. We are expecting to see also similar videos coming up from your channel - for example Rafale VS F-16, F-35 VS SU, F-35 VS F-16, etc

  • @TRD_Marc
    @TRD_Marc 4 роки тому

    @Two Bit Aviation it would be cool to see some transport aircraft on your channel like the Pilatus Porter PC-6 or the new Airbus A400M

  • @carlosspicy-wiener6727
    @carlosspicy-wiener6727 5 років тому +273

    I'm German and even my super German dad says that the raptor it's better xD

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  5 років тому +29

      You and your dad are awesome, if for no other reason than you have the last name Spicy-Wiener ;-)

    • @schwanzelstock1071
      @schwanzelstock1071 5 років тому

      That's probably why his mom is married to an American now.

    • @blackorange5091
      @blackorange5091 5 років тому +5

      Lol? They always masturbate to themselves how "great" they are, so stop talking shit

    • @stronkgermanium5198
      @stronkgermanium5198 5 років тому +13

      @@blackorange5091 hmm thats new to me

    • @LeikiBogbat
      @LeikiBogbat 5 років тому +9

      I thought they discontinued the super-german back in 1945.

  • @muammargaddafi2740
    @muammargaddafi2740 5 років тому +3

    What i think the media gets wrong about stealth technologie that it doesnt make a plane invisible, its just harder to dectect from further away and in close range its easily visible on a low frequency radar. And as soon as a Stealth aircraft activates its radar it can be detected by Planes with a radar warning receiver.

    • @nolanolivier6791
      @nolanolivier6791 5 років тому +1

      Yeah... something that someone should have explained to Donald Trump...

    • @SuperGeronimo999
      @SuperGeronimo999 5 років тому +1

      Not 100% true. Usually stealth aircraft have an LPI mode, which doesn't trigger RWR.

    • @muammargaddafi2740
      @muammargaddafi2740 5 років тому +1

      Thanks for the information

    • @Pantone2695
      @Pantone2695 5 років тому +1

      Low freq radars might locate a stealth (sometimes true, sometimes not. Depends on the conditions) but it will not be able to lock up for a firing solution.
      In other words, you might see the stealth even out of your canopy glass but you won't be able to shoot it down because you won't be able to get a radar lock.
      And both F-22 and F-35 (as well as FA18) has late generation Aesa Radars, which make it one of the best LPI radars on the market.
      The other plane will not know it is being scanned.
      Oh by the way, low freq radars are at a minimum, the size of a big truck. No fighter can carry it.

    • @tsu8003
      @tsu8003 5 років тому

      The problem with stealth is that, as is often claimed, whilst it can reduce a planes radar signature to the size of a small bird how many small birds can fly at mach 2?

  • @Suo_kongque
    @Suo_kongque 2 роки тому +1

    I’ve just got to say, everyone in the comments is being very mature and respectful.
    These 2 are tied for my favourite plane, and I could never choose a favourite child.

  • @thodorisvlastos6304
    @thodorisvlastos6304 4 роки тому

    Can someone explain to me how the f-22 which has a veeery good thrust to weight ratio amd has thrust vectoring be inferior in wvr to the typhoon that can maintain energy a bit better ? I mean the moat important would be who is at who's 6 cause then with both aircraft being actually Incredible at dogfighting it wouldn't take long for a heat seeker to lock.(i dont know much about aircraft so thats why i am asking)

    • @dumdumbinks274
      @dumdumbinks274 4 роки тому +1

      They are pretty much equal when it comes to maneuverability. The Typhoon however has full off-boresight missile capability. The F-22 can carry off-boresight missiles but does not have the helmet that enables off-boresight targeting.

  • @pumagepard9592
    @pumagepard9592 5 років тому +4

    J-37 VIGGEN AGAINST GR4 TORNADO OR F-15E AGAINST MIG-31.
    thanks for super video.

  • @go4usc21
    @go4usc21 5 років тому +7

    The name of the video should be 15 typhoons vs 2 F-22s and why the typhoon gets waxed.

  • @arsenalsniping1711
    @arsenalsniping1711 3 роки тому +19

    When European pilots and USA pilots went head to head during a joint training drill American pilots accepted that Eurofighter Typhoon pilots are better than F 35 and F 22

    • @isziahs5951
      @isziahs5951 3 роки тому

      Really? Lol, it looks better too imo

    • @TheBigChad
      @TheBigChad 3 роки тому

      Negative lol. I can see it being better than the f35 seeing how it’s not a fighter jet. But the f22 is fucking crazy. It can do super low speed maneuvers where it almost seems like it’s hovering and then it can kick it into super go fast mode and disappear. I hate these comparisons because the vast majority of civilians have never seen how insane the f22 really is. I’m stationed at Eglin afb in Florida and they’ve done demos for us on those cheesy “morale boost” days. But this thing legit boosted morale. To see it totally dominate an f16 was unbelievable.

    • @a-10thunderboltii24
      @a-10thunderboltii24 3 роки тому

      I would like a link for that. The F35 is worse at dogfighting, but the F22 is better than both in BVR and wvr

    • @TheBigChad
      @TheBigChad 3 роки тому

      @@a-10thunderboltii24 people always clump the f35 into that group and it pisses me off because it’s not a fighter. They can talk all they want about the new mig vs the f35 and I’m like yeah because the f35 isn’t a fucking fighter. That’s what the f22 is for. People are just stupid

    • @isziahs5951
      @isziahs5951 3 роки тому

      @@a-10thunderboltii24 wvr? Yeah right 😂

  • @seanclark6438
    @seanclark6438 4 роки тому +1

    I wouldn’t want to see them come up against each other, although it would be interesting to see a friendly simulated dogfight, kind of a top gun style see who can get a lock on who in a WVR battle

  • @RFGfotografie
    @RFGfotografie 5 років тому +25

    As a Dutch man, European, I want the Eurofighter to win. But I know the F22 will win, just basics...

    • @ultimatexi7491
      @ultimatexi7491 5 років тому

      Remco F. Gerritsen Hahaha you make me laugh comparison is equal between the two

    • @babuu3060
      @babuu3060 5 років тому

      Aese radar's same nearly . If raptors has no 100+ mis.. than Typhon will win dog fight . Su 35 and Typhon best dog fight . Typhon many problem but really best after su 35 for dog fight . ( I m Napoli f 35 engineer )

    • @kennebecsmitty
      @kennebecsmitty 5 років тому

      Two different aircraft designed for two different roles.I'm American & I'd support having more Typhoons,and our F-16,F-15,A-10,look at how much money an F-22 costs,worth it,but I'm saying we'd be better off with more,less expensive aircraft.

    • @predator-mx7zf
      @predator-mx7zf 5 років тому

      Dude,before you post something , be more informed.
      The Eurofighter already won over Raptor in dogfight. What the americans say, its just speculations!
      The Raptor might be better in stealth but Typhoon already won in real dogfight.

  • @coverfish4672
    @coverfish4672 5 років тому +53

    the f-22 Looks cooler

    • @admiralkipper4540
      @admiralkipper4540 5 років тому +1

      i disagree, im biased toward my nations look but hey the f15 on the other hand is the best looking fighter ever made i think

    • @RobinZur
      @RobinZur 5 років тому

      I agree

    • @pretzelboi64
      @pretzelboi64 5 років тому

      @@admiralkipper4540 The F-22 certainly looks the most hi-tech compared to any other fighter, though. It looks futuristic yet it's not.

  • @paulnaylor6035
    @paulnaylor6035 3 роки тому +2

    Seen a typhoon fly at air shows in the uk a few times the noise and speeds are incredible would love to see a raptor or better yet a top gear drag race between the two I would pay to see that ...

  • @l3gionmusic814
    @l3gionmusic814 4 роки тому +4

    If I'm still actually alive when it is put in to service, I'd love to see how the RAF Tempest compares.

    • @smd1011
      @smd1011 4 роки тому

      L3GION MUSIC 2035

  • @virginialoverproductions1226
    @virginialoverproductions1226 4 роки тому +6

    Two beautiful birds. It would be a shame if they would have to kill each other.

  • @CLVASHJBHWFS
    @CLVASHJBHWFS 5 років тому +4

    Why show the two seat trainer version of the Typhoon. No one knows how good these aircraft are anyhow.

  • @james1seattle
    @james1seattle 4 роки тому

    I like stats. Thanks for the video.

  • @jxsnn
    @jxsnn 2 роки тому

    I love typhoons, hear them fly over me every single hour since I live right near the UK's typhoon airbase

  • @saturnvmoon8592
    @saturnvmoon8592 4 роки тому +24

    That doesn't include the upgraded avionics being put into then RAF typhoon which can detect the f22 from the 300km of that missile and track and engage

    • @johanlassen6448
      @johanlassen6448 4 роки тому +10

      Lol, what nonsense. There are no upgrades that allow Typhoons to detect, let alone track, an F-22 from 300km of range. That is just your fantasies.

    • @ClarksonsinUSA
      @ClarksonsinUSA 4 роки тому +2

      :) right !

    • @saturnvmoon8592
      @saturnvmoon8592 4 роки тому +4

      @@fexilsehn6445 the mbda meteor is a ramjet mach 4 plus missile with a radar guidance system similar to the asraam which with mid flight course corrections given by datalink until the small radar on the missile can pick up the f22
      It has a no escape range of over 150km and is expected to have a maximum range over 400km however it might miss if evasive manuvers but will likely 'threaten' the f22 far enough out that they might not want to go in for a fight

    • @Max-np6wi
      @Max-np6wi 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, no, dream on.

    • @thesaint5619
      @thesaint5619 4 роки тому

      Raptor would be unbeatable end of story dude

  • @iwydadi
    @iwydadi 3 роки тому +3

    The difference is the F-22 Unknown and Typhoon well known!

  • @Aviator27J
    @Aviator27J 3 роки тому +1

    Which one has more cup holders? But seriously, the F-22 is awesome but it's equally amazing what the Typhoon is capable of given its powerplant and probable lower cost. I'm curious how maintenance costs are for each, although it's only comparable when geography isn't taken into account since Airbus has more logistics structure in the EU and Lockheed has theirs in the US (not unlike how Boeing support can be superior in the US and Airbus in the EU).

  • @paulzx10
    @paulzx10 2 роки тому

    @ 0:25 why does the Typhoon have an arrestor hook? there is no navalised version....

  • @garvincentcia5873
    @garvincentcia5873 4 роки тому +3

    I'm thinking the typhoon with infrared tracking could possible track heat signatures of the air and turbulence friction heat around the F-22 fuselage in far distance fight so the f-22 would have to close the gap low flying do to air temperature's above 1,000 feet .

  • @yourmother1921
    @yourmother1921 5 років тому +5

    Typhoons are used for OTH. However RAF pilots are trained to dogfight aswell.

  • @markmoen8272
    @markmoen8272 2 роки тому

    Thats a tough one! Both have their definate attributes, both are well engineered.

  • @curlywurly1987
    @curlywurly1987 3 роки тому +1

    i see the euro fighter as a interceptor aircraft design to take on a fight when it comes, the f-22 sounds more like a aircraft used to enter enemy airspace and fight for dominance.

  • @ogmrpanini7580
    @ogmrpanini7580 5 років тому +3

    Do a video of the A-10 warthog 😍

  • @gentlemen.7621
    @gentlemen.7621 4 роки тому +3

    Oh, and let the A-10 Warthog deal with other competitors preparing on the ground.

  • @Gen_Kael
    @Gen_Kael 4 роки тому +2

    I worked for a contractor on the Savannah airport. I got to watch the f22s take off from the airbase that's right there. And when they take off, they go straight up. But what really blew my mind was watching them turn. It literally looked like they were going 45 miles an hour through a round about. Amazing how it didnt crash. That thing turned on a dime.
    No disrespect to the eurofighter, but the raptor would win before he even saw it. And in the odd chance he didnt, that thrust vectoring will make all the difference.

    • @DG-EditsMediaEtc
      @DG-EditsMediaEtc Рік тому

      You sound like an airshow enthusiast

    • @adrianh332
      @adrianh332 7 місяців тому

      Also the F-22 pilots are forbidden from performing or showing everything the aircraft is capable of even when engaged in wargames with allied nations, that's how secret some of the technology still is.

  • @leewainwright3526
    @leewainwright3526 Рік тому

    more than likely to see these two fighting side by side than against each other

  • @navynightranger6517
    @navynightranger6517 5 років тому +12

    Fully load the typhoon then compare

    • @webbit1518
      @webbit1518 4 роки тому

      Its about distance...The Raptor can see 200 more miles and it will position itself accordingly. The Raptor wont purposely put itself into a one on one dogfight.

    • @zacharycrosier9296
      @zacharycrosier9296 4 роки тому +1

      Fully loading the typhoon would only slow/weigh it down. Diminishing the only advantage it would have, dogfighting.

    • @bingusbongus7313
      @bingusbongus7313 4 роки тому

      Tony Beard twat

  • @Messerschmidt_Me-262
    @Messerschmidt_Me-262 5 років тому +4

    You should do the 787 vs A350, which is more efficient

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  5 років тому +3

      We are probably going to focus on Military for the next few months, but will add this to our idea list. Thanks for the suggestion!

    • @jonivogel3188
      @jonivogel3188 4 роки тому +1

      787 is more efficient on shorter hauls and the a350 more efficient on longer hauls.

  • @martinallen4798
    @martinallen4798 4 роки тому

    the f22 stats when it comes to top speed seem to be incorrect? I've seen quite a few videos and the numbers vary but never as low as mach 1.8, usually, i see Mach 2, or extremely close too?

    • @forzaisspeed
      @forzaisspeed 4 роки тому

      The Eurofighter is the best, it can do everything.
      Some Example's to show why the Eurofighter is king, few years reading reports and papers and speaking with pilots themselves on the matter, and all can be found online Paper's and Reports open to read.
      The Specs of the Eurofighter vs F-22 for example and some others to compare.
      Speed /
      Eurofighter - 1550 mph - Mach 2.0 TMS.
      F-22 - 1495 mph - Mach 1.95 TMS.
      Rafale - 1381 mph - Mach 1.8 TMS.
      F-16 - 1500 mph - Mach 1.95 TMS.
      F-35 - 1200 mph - Mach 1.56 TMS.
      Altitude Ceiling /
      Eurofighter 65,000 f.
      F-22 65,000 f.
      Rafale 50,000f.
      F-16 50,000+f.
      F-35 50,000f.
      The Sustained and Instantaneous Turn Rates, reports and papers that I've read over the years, state some what different numbers to others, so I've found the mid of the numbers for a ( about number ), for example the Eurofighter some reports and papers say between 26 to 31 D/S, so about 28.5 D/S and again for the F-22 between 25 to 29.5 D/S so about 27 D/S.
      But just to say that yes the F-22 uses 1D Thrust Vectoring, but the Eurofighter had the highest number, in most reports and papers, but I'll get to why Thrust Vectoring on the F-22 is not something you want to trust in, due to its quick energy bleed and loss of speed quite fast, and if it does not get in to position quickly, it's like a sitting duck.
      Sustained Turn Rate /
      Eurofighter - about 28.5 D/S.
      F-22 - about 27 D/S.
      Rafale - about 27 D/S.
      F-16 - about 18 D/S.
      F-35 - about 11 to 16 D/S.
      Instantaneous Turn Rate /
      Eurofighter - about 36.5 D/S.
      F-22 - about 35 D/S.
      Rafale - about 36 D/S.
      F-16 - about 26 D/S.
      F-35 - about 26.5 D/S.
      There where some examples of how different jet's line up, now focusing more on the Eurofighter vs F-22.
      Engine Thrust /
      Eurofighter 21,500 ibf x2.
      F-22 35,000 ibf x2.
      Plus the Eurofighter's EJ200 Engines are the most advanced, with a reliability rate of over 1000 hours and still performance like new.
      Eurofighter is lighter and smaller so a higher Thrust to weight ratio.
      The Eurofighter has better range / Combat and A to B.
      The Eurofighter Has a Better Dive/Cilmb Rate with better energy hold.
      G's and -G's.
      Eurofighter 9+ and -3.5G's.
      F-22 9+ and -3.2G's.
      Most jet's can pull 9+ G's but only some can high -G's.
      Hard Points /
      Eurofighter 13.
      F-22 8.
      Gun /
      Eurofighter x1 27mm with 150 rounds.
      F-22 x1 20mm with 480 rounds.
      Missiles BVR - WVR /
      Eurofighter BVR Meteor Missile the best in the world x2 ranges 1st 150km for fast agile Targets 2nd in testing showed to go 300km for other Targets, The Biggest NEZ of 60km, Speed of Mach 4.5, more Agile then the AIM-120D, as well the Meteor uses a ramjet meaning it maintains power to the target, WVR the ASRAAM Faster then the AIM-9X and more agile between 5 to 55km, and the ASRAAM is a 6.5inch diameter vs the 5inch on the AIM-9X so about a 70% more volume rocket propellant, meaning a longer burn time.
      F-22 BVR AIM-120D 1x range Maxed at 160km a NEZ of 20km, and a speed of Mach 4, WVR AIM-9X more agile under 5km, range 30+km.
      And both AIM-9X and ASRAAM use a IR seeker, so heat seeking and the ASRAAM and newer 9X's able to be used as LOAL and LOBL with the ASRAAM being able to outperform the 9x in 180 over the shoulder launches, and with the ASRAAM using IR imaging to better its ability.
      But no pilot will use the full range of their missile, like the 150+km on the Meteor or the 160km on the 120D due to the low chance of really hitting anything, and giving the enemy longer for the RWS's to pick it up and just do a 180 run, making the distance longer for the Missile, you'll want to fire within about 100 - 70km or even 50km, to have a higher chance for the Missile to hit and less time for the enemy to have to counter.
      This is what I find funny is that people say, ( well this jet can fire from hundreds of miles away and kill it before ) NO, it's Bullshit their are the one's that don't know fuck about RWS's - MTT or even Defences, older 3rd gen jets with old as shit RWS's yes probably, but not 4th gen or 3rd gen with advanced or one of the most advanced RWS's ever in it.
      Just to point out that the numbers on all missiles like the 120D Meteor R-77 PL-15 and so on, all have a range of what it can do with still the ability to hit a target ( effective range ), but most of the time it's in good weather conditions, so ranges will very.
      Eurofighter uses the Striker 2 Helmet more advanced and able to lock on to targets and fire with out lining the jet up with the target, and has night vision built in, with out needing a different piece of equipment on the pilots head.
      F-22 is outdated and old the hardware and software is not there to be able to use the Helmet to lock on and fire like the Eurofighter can, so the F-22 needs to line up to lock and fire.
      Radar /
      The Eurofighter uses one of the best Radars out today Captor M most powerfule in its class, able to pick up the F-35 and F-22 from distance, and able to track a multi group of targets at once, plus the new Captor E Radar will and is one of the most powerfule Morden Radars for the Future.
      F-22 has a good Radar picks up the Eurofighter from distance as well but even though the F-22 may see the Eurofighter at about 200km the 120D's range is 160km max and no pilot will use max range, and with the Eurofighter jamming for example in some exercise the F-22 was not able to get a lock until about 30km away from the Eurofighter, and same with F-22 and most jet's having jamming to stop the lock on's, but the F-22's radar cant handle as much as other radars can, but still can track lots of targets.
      Plus the Eurofighter has many different radars and systems around the Jet's body, helping it in RWS's and able to see a 360 decrease around the Jet, plus the Eurofighter's new Captor E Radar being able to fire Missiles then turn the jet more then 90 dec and still having the ability of guiding the Missiles to the target, as well as the Striker 2 gives the Eurofighter a bigger advantage in a BVR fight, but the F-22 does not have such abilitys and with just the one radar for fox 1 and fox 3's for example needs to maintain the Radar pointing at its target, meaning the F-22 is getting closer and closer to its target, and does not have IRST like the Eurofighter so the F-22 is blind in the heat seeking area, plus with the Eurofighter's IRST Pirate has a range of over 70 - 100km and able to pick up a stealth jet like the F-22 at 50+km, meaning the Eurofighter can fire a ASRAAM at the F-22, and it being a Imaging IR missile it is harder for the F-22's RWS to pick up on, not impossible but harder to see, the F-22 does not have other systems around the body to help guide any missile after it turns beyond its radar sight, so making the F-22 again having to stay pointing at the enemy getting closer and closer to it, and with the Eurofighter have IFF DASS MIDS LDP DVI VTAS HOTAS and IRST as well as the mean radar and others the Eurofighter is just getting better and better, as well as its specs and proformas.
      Plus the Eurofighter can use its IRST to help the mean Radar, for example the F-22 due to its stealth does not make it invisible, just need to get closer to see it the Captor M radar about 40+km the IRST about 50+km still BVR, but with the IRST it can if the heat from the F-22's Engines and body, then with the Radar, put all its power on at one sport with the IRST to be able to fire a Meteor missile, then can use the the IR with imaging to see the F--22 then with the radar to guide the Meteor, as well as just using the IRST to fire ASRAAM's over 50+km at the F-22.
      In War Games the Eurofighter and F-22 have both won against each other in WVR, but the Eurofighter and F-22 have not fought in BVR yet.
      Design /
      Eurofighter was designed for Air Dominance and does have some stealth in the design having the smallest RCS against the Rafale and Gripen, with the Wing Design on the Eurofighter it is 20% more efficient then your wing design on the F-22, The Eurofighter is a Swing-Roll as well meaning it can hold both air to air and air to ground payloads at the same time, the F-22 its one or the other.
      The Eurofighter can do all the F-22 can do plus more, The Eurofighter has better specs better Missiles better Hardware and Software plus is used by the best the RAF.
      Plus the F-22 is to expensive for the US to upgrade and keep maintaining, the F-22 was stop being made years ago, but the Eurofighter is still being maintained and still being updated with newer and newer Hardware and Software.
      Eurofighter King.

  • @hunterofliars9600
    @hunterofliars9600 4 роки тому +2

    The Eurofighter is not the latest aircraft. Let's wait and see what its replacement will be like and then compare it with other fighters.. The replacement has been on the drawing boards for about 2 years already. Go, Euro !

    • @arx3516
      @arx3516 4 роки тому

      The Typhoon is beautiful, they should make a Typhoon 2. In my opinion they should have also made a Tornado 2 instead of buyng the F35.

  • @Dimaz42
    @Dimaz42 4 роки тому +5

    The Wright Bros’ OG aircraft would nuke them to oblivion

  • @craig855s
    @craig855s 5 років тому +20

    Typhoon carries Chaff and Flare (and soon, brightcloud), and also ASRAAM, AMRAAM, Meteor, Storm shadow, PW IV. Im sure the F22 also carried stuff you havenet mentioned.

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  5 років тому +2

      Yeah, we wanted to keep the video short and did not go into all the armament details, but if you look at the Eurofighter Typhoon's official web page, there are a ton of armament options available. We are really interested in the future Meteor.

    • @zodsmuffin2369
      @zodsmuffin2369 5 років тому +2

      ye and at redflag the typhoon all ways beats the f22

    • @zaldyfernandez2792
      @zaldyfernandez2792 5 років тому +3

      160 bullet rounds for typoon and 400 bullets rounds for raptor the pilot training skills win at dogfight 😂😂😂

    • @zodsmuffin2369
      @zodsmuffin2369 5 років тому +2

      Zaldy Fernandez pilot training that's why the typhoon all ways wins at red flag look it up

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  5 років тому +4

      Red Flag Alaska is an interesting data point, but keep in mind these types of showdowns usually have several artificial limits in place.

  • @crisstryna_mma1622
    @crisstryna_mma1622 2 роки тому +1

    Hopefully the world stays cool and we keep breaking barriers in aeronautics and technology in general. Peace and love

  • @AmirulJLilit
    @AmirulJLilit 4 роки тому

    Please do typhoon vs f15 vs su35/27