I'm happy with my aircooled MSI Suprim X 4090, it's been incredible since launch. Memory temps 5c below core and hotspot only 8-10c max above core. 2895mhz stock core boost clock. I keep it undervolted though at 0.985v though. I like what MSI is doing here
Dude, thanks. Just falling in to the whole pc Subject. And love your vids. Alot more straight down the line for a lad in Yorkshire 👍. Just waiting till I can afford a decent pc to build
Been in the PC subject since I was like 10-11 (Maybe even younger), I'm 17 now, turning 18 this year, and it's been pretty great, it's a lot of interesting stuff. Started watching this guy since last year, and he feels really down-to-consumer level, while still being pretty professional, it's great! Also I live in the South of U.S., and Sweet Tea is pretty common, how good is Yorkshire tea? I know The Spitting Brit glorifies it, Idk, maybe it's worth a try 😂.
@@PcCentricHi bro, do you think ryzen 9 7900x3d or ryzen 7 7800x3d is better for gaming? I want to coordinate one of these processors with the rtx 4090 graphics card
@@امیرحسینملکی-ظ4ثI would say the R7 7800x3D, its only slightly slower than the R9 7950x3D and requires MUCH less setup and tweaking to get it working to its full potential.
@@Hydra_X9K_Music If you want to choose between these two processors, Ryzen 9 7900x3d and Ryzen 7 7800x3d for gaming, which one would you choose? And for what reason?
@@Hydra_X9K_Music If you want to choose between these two processors, Ryzen 9 7900x3d and Ryzen 7 7800x3d for gaming, which one would you choose? And for what reason?
What I really appreciate MSI has done to have a three slot back plate on their 3 or more slot cards which was something EVGA was experimenting with on their 40 series cards that never existed to makes them sag less
If that curvy good looking shroud on 4080 super Expert is made of aluminium that's it they nailed it! I think 10 years from now we are going to look back at that card and it's still going to look modern. Timeless design imo.
Do you know what, I recently (last month) treated myself to an MSI RTX 4080 suprim X (non super version). And it’s still in warranty so could technically still return it but I’m still really pleased with this card. I was a bit nervous as I knew these new cards were right around the corner. And while they are most certainly nice they don’t make me regret my initial purchase at all
Legitimately nice looking cards. Project Zero makes so much sense. Their monitors are getting really good. Cooling on the handhelds is AWESOME. Always prefer the performance over unnecessary styling. Still love my MSI Laptop, again, because of performance and cooling prioritization
Nah. I got a used 3080 for 375$ off ebay last year, I play single player games, 1080p or 1440p (if the fps are high enough). I think get what fits, for me that was keeping things affordable.
Well indeed. But that's the same for everyone tho isn't it. Get what fits. No point buying rocket fuel if all you need to do is cycle to the corner store.
BABHAHAH I THINK I saw my self in the background filming some content!!!!! CES was amazing, would have been awesome to bump into you. Whenever you get the redux are you going to try and grade cheeze on it? Also isn't it crazy they were able to basically fit the 4070ti super (basically a 4080) into a 2 fan model. I asked, and MSIi is pretty confident there will be zero issues with cooling on it. The expert was a show stealer for me.
Love the channel my guy, I was looking into building my first gaming pc using the 4070 Ti super. What motherboards and cpu combos would you recommend? Any help would be appreciated ✌🏼
Very excited for the MSI fans! Almost pulled the trigger on the Lian-Li ones, but then watched your video when you installed them and mentioned that other companies would probably make their own variations of them and drive down the price, so I've been waiting.
Why would MSI make a M.2 drive that wont work in any high end motherboard...all the high end boards have heatsink plates over the M.2 slots...that 5 inch tall heatsink will not fit under the MB plate...
New mobos will need to be designed to accommodate those hall active coolers for sure. Gen 5's will work now under your existing passive plate but under heavy/sustained workloads may need to throttle its speed to manage the heat generation . Personally I don't think the current Gen 5 speed increase are worth the cost/aggregation over a good Gen 4 atm. Real world benefit to most is inperceptible. Commercial application perhaps.....🤷🏻♂️
Well thats quite the jump skipping straight over SSDs into Nvme's. Like going from a bicycle to a Ferrari. But from there up the increments are way less perceptible (atm) A 10k Nvme is twice as fast on paper but almost impereceivable in the real world over a 5k one. 500hp may get you a 0-60 of 3.5secs. But doubling the horsepower may get you 2.8secs. Huge on paper (and cost) but not that huge a benefit in reality.
Honestly ray tracing is still in its infancy, only interested in upgrading from my 1080ti when we can play cyberpunk 70-80fps 4k with full rt and graphics on
No it can't. The most powerful GPU on the market the 4090 can 'barely' manage 60fps on max all/RT in Cyberpunk at 4k. 1080, or 1440 of course diff story. Lots of UA-cam media showing this, go look it up. 4070 not a snowballs chance in hell. Cyberpunk is a RT Everest.
Can’t believe how long 40 series cards been out I brought 3070 and promised myself wouldn’t buy a card with questionable amount of vram ended up with 4070ti 😂 what the 40 series should’ve been from launch
Love the aesthetics that are coming into the market, it's like the market is growing up and away from the RGB just like we did from the NEON pukefest of the late early 2000's. Don't get me wrong, I love vintage, retro looking stuff, but just not PC parts that were made for pure performance aka gaming etc.
I think it's super cool that I follow you on UA-cam and you're in Vegas and I live in Vegas and I'm a Uber driver here and I've been dropping people off for the last couple days all over to the convention matter of fact I just dropped off at the Venetian where you're at LOL wish I could have been able to pick you up in the rideshare
Do you know if MSI's gonna make a 4090 Expert card? Founders isn't available where I live and other 4090s are absolutely enormous.
Btw what country? Just curious
why do you need a 4090
@@3amlabs vr flight sim is pain
same here
@@3amlabsI mean if they can afford it, they should just go for it...
Idk why, but i think the reference cards from both amd and nvidia always look the best. The other cards usually look childish, cheap or has rgb puke.
yes!
Yeah I agree which is why I opted for an XFX card
xfx is not reference lol @@J_Brian
I'm happy with my aircooled MSI Suprim X 4090, it's been incredible since launch. Memory temps 5c below core and hotspot only 8-10c max above core. 2895mhz stock core boost clock. I keep it undervolted though at 0.985v though. I like what MSI is doing here
ok
The 4080 expert looks amazing. The monitors seem to be great too. Overall, an event with awesome products.
you just wasted more than 3 years by not getting a 3090 at launch. how do you feel about that?
@@dafunk420 Your reply doesn't make sense at all.
@@user.007. yes it does. you drooling over a renamed product that was available more than 3 years ago
@@dafunk420 Incorrect. The 4070 even outperforms the 3090, if you are referring to the amount of vram it is also not the same.
@@dafunk420 why would anyone buy the 3080? when the 4070 beats it?
Dude, thanks. Just falling in to the whole pc Subject. And love your vids. Alot more straight down the line for a lad in Yorkshire 👍. Just waiting till I can afford a decent pc to build
Been in the PC subject since I was like 10-11 (Maybe even younger), I'm 17 now, turning 18 this year, and it's been pretty great, it's a lot of interesting stuff. Started watching this guy since last year, and he feels really down-to-consumer level, while still being pretty professional, it's great!
Also I live in the South of U.S., and Sweet Tea is pretty common, how good is Yorkshire tea? I know The Spitting Brit glorifies it, Idk, maybe it's worth a try 😂.
my favourite part of CES was the guy you paid $999 to be your cameraman for 5 minutes
What value!
@@PcCentricHi bro, do you think ryzen 9 7900x3d or ryzen 7 7800x3d is better for gaming? I want to coordinate one of these processors with the rtx 4090 graphics card
@@امیرحسینملکی-ظ4ثI would say the R7 7800x3D, its only slightly slower than the R9 7950x3D and requires MUCH less setup and tweaking to get it working to its full potential.
@@Hydra_X9K_Music If you want to choose between these two processors, Ryzen 9 7900x3d and Ryzen 7 7800x3d for gaming, which one would you choose? And for what reason?
@@Hydra_X9K_Music If you want to choose between these two processors, Ryzen 9 7900x3d and Ryzen 7 7800x3d for gaming, which one would you choose? And for what reason?
Cameraman was the real G 😂
What I really appreciate MSI has done to have a three slot back plate on their 3 or more slot cards which was something EVGA was experimenting with on their 40 series cards that never existed to makes them sag less
You have given us a lot to bear in mind. Thank you for your service.
If that curvy good looking shroud on 4080 super Expert is made of aluminium that's it they nailed it! I think 10 years from now we are going to look back at that card and it's still going to look modern. Timeless design imo.
I got lucky enough to get the MSI Expert edition 4080 Super this morning, it is supposed to arrive on Friday.
Aio for ssds 😂 we’re getting wild now
Take.
My.
Money.
🤣
I think this looks cool!
Most aftermarket cards look super ‘gamery’
Do you know what, I recently (last month) treated myself to an MSI RTX 4080 suprim X (non super version). And it’s still in warranty so could technically still return it but I’m still really pleased with this card. I was a bit nervous as I knew these new cards were right around the corner. And while they are most certainly nice they don’t make me regret my initial purchase at all
5 percent loss performance than the super. Don’t worry about it
Im doing thisj
return it, get the new one for 200 dollars cheaper and 5% performance gain and easier resellabiltiy in the future.
couldn’t help but notice the top right rgb not working on the Ez120 fan around @9:30
Disappointing that none of the QDOLED displayed Runescape 3, that's where the colours really pop!
MSI has some amazing products this year! Good coverage PC Centric!
I loved the video bro. I wish to see more vlogs.😎👍❤
More to come!
Legitimately nice looking cards. Project Zero makes so much sense. Their monitors are getting really good. Cooling on the handhelds is AWESOME. Always prefer the performance over unnecessary styling. Still love my MSI Laptop, again, because of performance and cooling prioritization
So funny and cool how we’ve reached the point where nvme ssd’s have become so fast, they need giant radiators to cool them 😂
The card in the thumbnail is a prototype and isn’t available for sale per MSI consultant
Do they have a white 4080 super card in the lineup?
Ngl this GPU is clean af like I'll get one for my oc and another one as a collection.
the new motherboards look sick
Respect to the "new" cameraman!
Hey Guys, i like the fans from 6:50 can someone tell me which one these are please? :) Have a nice day! :)
Exciting! Certainly looks cooler than my FE 4080, thanks for giving us insight!
The 4080 expert looks like a Cheese Grater to me
Shout out to the emergency camera man :)
The expert one looks so Clean
Some good content here, are MSI going to release RRP pricing on their new SUPER cards?
13:18 this is just the steam deck and the ROG Ally rolled into one. Someone was working the night shift when they came up with it
why is centric so majestic here 😂😂
It’s not a case you need but a house extension!
I can’t wait to check their booth out!
Your presentation skills are great man! Very engaging
Gotta give it to ya Markus sure has charisma
i want that Expert on a 4090 card
Nah. I got a used 3080 for 375$ off ebay last year, I play single player games, 1080p or 1440p (if the fps are high enough). I think get what fits, for me that was keeping things affordable.
Well indeed. But that's the same for everyone tho isn't it. Get what fits. No point buying rocket fuel if all you need to do is cycle to the corner store.
i bought the 4070 ti super version of this expert card
BABHAHAH I THINK I saw my self in the background filming some content!!!!! CES was amazing, would have been awesome to bump into you. Whenever you get the redux are you going to try and grade cheeze on it? Also isn't it crazy they were able to basically fit the 4070ti super (basically a 4080) into a 2 fan model. I asked, and MSIi is pretty confident there will be zero issues with cooling on it. The expert was a show stealer for me.
9:35... why did the LEDs on the fan not completely ligjt up.
Btw, not one security cable tag on those GPUs 😮
Love the channel my guy,
I was looking into building my first gaming pc using the 4070 Ti super.
What motherboards and cpu combos would you recommend?
Any help would be appreciated ✌🏼
Are you able to confirm if the new cards will comply with the new ATX V3.1? Come with an updated power connector?
4080 expert -incredibly good looking card
LOL he said some "a little more expensive": refering to the motherboard with the covers
Be careful what you wish. I can not forget anything and there are lots of things I wish I could forget.
Very excited for the MSI fans! Almost pulled the trigger on the Lian-Li ones, but then watched your video when you installed them and mentioned that other companies would probably make their own variations of them and drive down the price, so I've been waiting.
eh lian li ones perform poorly compared to other fans
Any 4070ti supers that are true two slots you’ve seen?
Woah, it's like a british Trevor Wallace.
Great presentation. Thankyou!!
I'm a big fan of the look of the Expert 4080. Too bad it sounds like MSI is limiting the run. Not like I need to upgrade from 4080 to 4080 tho x.x
Ok I don't actually own any MSI products (yet) but their logo is the coolest logo of all the tech companies
Please MSI make RTX 4070 Ti Super EXPERT or Suprim. Regular RTX 4070 Ti had Suprim version. RTX 4070 Ti Super deserves one too.
NVIDIA came out with a card on the same level as the 7900xtx for the same price... Impressive 😂
I’m loving the CES content!!!
Great video, lots of content 👌
Yey for the camera man
I love watching this video after planning out a new MSI build and ordering a motherboard from them 🥲😅
Great coverage buddy!
Which is the hotel that hosted the event?
The 4080 expert totally looks like the old GTX 480. I definitely think they did that on purpose!
pcs turning into modern day transformers bruh
oh im definitely buying that rtx 4080 msi expert for the looks
Excellent presentation. Love it.
Can't wait to spend $2000 for zero cables motherboard and case
Why would MSI make a M.2 drive that wont work in any high end motherboard...all the high end boards have heatsink plates over the M.2 slots...that 5 inch tall heatsink will not fit under the MB plate...
New mobos will need to be designed to accommodate those hall active coolers for sure. Gen 5's will work now under your existing passive plate but under heavy/sustained workloads may need to throttle its speed to manage the heat generation . Personally I don't think the current Gen 5 speed increase are worth the cost/aggregation over a good Gen 4 atm. Real world benefit to most is inperceptible. Commercial application perhaps.....🤷🏻♂️
The size of it is huge
thanks for the video cards update bro
the msi ventus is msi greatest innovation
Founders edition because you can actually build a house's foundation for the price they are charging for a Chip
You didn't tell us about the MSI Lava Lamp, I am so disappointed.
bro change the thumbnail, i feel comfortable seeing ur Sid-looking face from the ice age movie with a creepy expression
great vid! btw love your glasses. what brand are they? :)
is it Moscot ?
Those ssd heatsinks are ridiculous
Where do we go to buy a 4080 Super on launch day? I'm a little confused about it
B&H Photo has some listed on their website if you type in 4080 Super, but they are listing only ASUS cards for now.
Legend
What's the difference between a regular motherboard and a wifi one? What does it do different?
Has a WiFi chip on board for networking
wait so when will msi drop these new gpus will it be the same time nvidia drops theirs?
I just went from a 10+ year old HDD to a 990 Pro M.2 (7k read/write) and the difference is unreal. I can comprehend the idea of 10k+ read/write lol
Yeah I did the same and it’s crazy how fast I download games now with my 1GB internet. I have a 980 Pro, but speeds are 6.5k from doing Samsung tests.
Well thats quite the jump skipping straight over SSDs into Nvme's. Like going from a bicycle to a Ferrari. But from there up the increments are way less perceptible (atm) A 10k Nvme is twice as fast on paper but almost impereceivable in the real world over a 5k one. 500hp may get you a 0-60 of 3.5secs. But doubling the horsepower may get you 2.8secs. Huge on paper (and cost) but not that huge a benefit in reality.
Honestly ray tracing is still in its infancy, only interested in upgrading from my 1080ti when we can play cyberpunk 70-80fps 4k with full rt and graphics on
You can with even a 4070
No it can't. The most powerful GPU on the market the 4090 can 'barely' manage 60fps on max all/RT in Cyberpunk at 4k. 1080, or 1440 of course diff story. Lots of UA-cam media showing this, go look it up. 4070 not a snowballs chance in hell. Cyberpunk is a RT Everest.
that looks a lot different then nvidias own founders card
Is this oled available in the uk
Would love to see England 🏴 and stay for a while there. Hoping to find some work visa type job there to stay and explore the country.
Can’t believe how long 40 series cards been out I brought 3070 and promised myself wouldn’t buy a card with questionable amount of vram ended up with 4070ti 😂 what the 40 series should’ve been from launch
Love the aesthetics that are coming into the market, it's like the market is growing up and away from the RGB just like we did from the NEON pukefest of the late early 2000's.
Don't get me wrong, I love vintage, retro looking stuff, but just not PC parts that were made for pure performance aka gaming etc.
What about the Arous Master 4080 Super ?
wish I could come!
What's better for games? 32" curved or flat?
I prefer curve, but anything imo 32 and under the curve isn’t too aggressive.
Just what I wanted, liquid components very near my precious ssd data.
Looks like they have the PCIE x16 in the second slot again. 🤦🏽
Im old school and never cared for all the lights and crap. I just want mine to run great. Save me the money and ill stick with blacked out. LOL
I’ll keep my old ssd’s, they are fast enough and no need for these coolers
32 inch oled monitors !! It’s about dam time.. now which one 🤔
Dell if you want glossy. Otherwise, I’d say Asus or MSI. However gigabyte has one that has DisplayPort 2.1.
Nice MSI!
Thanks!
Awesome 👌 4k qd oled monitor 😮i want one😂
I think it's super cool that I follow you on UA-cam and you're in Vegas and I live in Vegas and I'm a Uber driver here and I've been dropping people off for the last couple days all over to the convention matter of fact I just dropped off at the Venetian where you're at LOL wish I could have been able to pick you up in the rideshare
Still time!
@@PcCentric what time u leaving from there
@PcCentric I'm on break right now but I'm going to start back driving at 3:00 pm
MSI, where are the AMD cars? I had to buy a different brand this time around as there are no MSI AMD cards.