What You MUST Know About Roller Painting A Car!

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  • Опубліковано 11 жов 2022
  • This video will let you know exactly what supplies I used and where to purchase them.
    I posted a 45 minute video of my journey painting our old family Mini Van with Rustoleum Farm and Implement paint and a paint roller. The results were awesome and I wanted to make sure let everyone know exactly what supplies to use, where to buy them and how to use them.
    You can do it!
    Link to Video of Painting the Van Start to Finish - • Roller Paint Job on Ca...
    Please Like, Comment, Subscribe and Share! Thanks for watching!
    #doityourself #rustoleum #carpainting #frugalliving #cheapcars #rustycar #easy #easyfix
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  • @camperjack2620
    @camperjack2620 2 дні тому +1

    I use a brush, usually, but you have encouraged me to try a roller. I have 3 tractor painting projects coming up, and my business partner has pickup trucks that need paint. I will try!

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  День тому

      The roller is awesome! What I really suggest is thinning it out a bit and then rolling on and finishing with a brush! That’s gonna be the smoothest! The brush tips will knock down the roller texture a lot

  • @DJDAVEKHEN
    @DJDAVEKHEN Рік тому +15

    Did it on my '79 van. No mineral spirits. 4" foam roller. Barely sanded anywhere, hope it sticks! Looks great. Thanks for the info.

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  Рік тому +1

      Heck yeah!

    • @aliencat1001
      @aliencat1001 5 місяців тому

      hows it holding up 8mo later?

    • @DJDAVEKHEN
      @DJDAVEKHEN 5 місяців тому +2

      @@aliencat1001 No problems so far. Amazing paint. Gonna do my '74 superbeetle this year with John Deere colors.

  • @marcstine1788
    @marcstine1788 7 місяців тому +4

    Im about to roll paint my 48 Ford 8N tractor, thank you for the detailed process you went through and sharing, definitely boosted my confidence in the process. The old tractor is a worker not a show stopper and this will help her look just a bit nicer.

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  7 місяців тому +2

      That’s awesome. I would encourage you to pressure wash that thing first and give it a good wipe down to make sure you’re not fighting any grease. also make sure that the paint is warm and that the tractor is warm for the entire process as well as for it to dry for a day or two. Good luck! I know it’ll turn out great.

  • @alirezashirazifard8990
    @alirezashirazifard8990 11 місяців тому +5

    Every thing you said makes sense. If they don’t fallow your direction they can not complain. I did that on a unwanted door . It came out perfect now i will do my car.

  • @MrLuvgarden
    @MrLuvgarden 5 місяців тому +1

    This seems the easiest to understand. I appreciate your suggestions on supplies.

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  5 місяців тому

      Glad it was helpful! Good luck! Please go to my channel and watch the one year follow up video because there’s a few tips that I missed in these earlier videos.

  • @m3logistics
    @m3logistics 4 місяці тому +1

    Very good explanations! Thank you!

  • @robertdiehl9003
    @robertdiehl9003 Рік тому +3

    This man is an absolute expert on this subject

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  Рік тому

      Dang Robert. Thanks for the compliment. I tried to be thorough. I'll probably do my old tractor this summer and offer a few more tips I learned that I didn't mention.

  • @markopolo286
    @markopolo286 3 місяці тому

    Great explanation thx!!

  • @ronaldfarmer1208
    @ronaldfarmer1208 9 місяців тому +1

    Good advice

  • @IowaBudgetRCBashers
    @IowaBudgetRCBashers 9 місяців тому +3

    To be clear to everyone wondering It’s OIL BASED enamel, not to be confused with Acrylic Enamel.

  • @dickslocum
    @dickslocum 4 місяці тому +3

    Back in the 50s when I grew up in Dad's Body shop. Enamel was the main paint. Lacquer was for the high class folks. Love the forgiving nature of basic Enamel paint. It sprays almost as easily as the roller.

  • @baddboat
    @baddboat 9 місяців тому +2

    Thank you! I recently acquired a used truck fiberglass cap and I think I'm going to roller paint it. My garage is attached to my house so spraying it isn't an option. It's to cold out side this time of year to spray paint. So I will give it try with the roller. Thank you for all the great tips!

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  9 місяців тому

      That’s awesome! A truck topper is the perfect application. I’m positive you’ll be happy! Just make sure you’re painting and drying in a warm space. Also, watch my other 3 videos in this series and there are some good tips, especially the 2 year follow up video

    • @baddboat
      @baddboat 9 місяців тому +1

      @@thejoyoffixing ok thank you!

  • @EdKrebs-jb7vo
    @EdKrebs-jb7vo 2 місяці тому +2

    I was feeling pretty depressed after getting an outrageous estimate from MAACO for my old Honda. Now I know what I'm gonna do! Thanks for the great info.😀

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  2 місяці тому +1

      Heck yeah! Watch my 1 year follow up video to get a few more tips I learned.

    • @EdKrebs-jb7vo
      @EdKrebs-jb7vo 2 місяці тому

      @@thejoyoffixing Damn! I got all my supplies, started some bondo and rust sanding, and just waiting for the paint to arrive. Perfect color. Just got a notice that it was returned to sender. Not available in California!! Now I have to rethink everything.🤬

    • @johnelder4273
      @johnelder4273 2 місяці тому

      ​@@EdKrebs-jb7voOrder it delivered to a store just across the state line and pick it up in person. Every hardware store in America carries farm/implement paint.

    • @EdKrebs-jb7vo
      @EdKrebs-jb7vo 2 місяці тому

      @@johnelder4273 Ha! It's about a 500 mile round trip to the nearest border. 🤣🤣

    • @jfruser
      @jfruser Місяць тому

      @@EdKrebs-jb7vo May have a dispensation for "commercial" use. So, try ordering from Grainger.

  • @SCRAMBLER390
    @SCRAMBLER390 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks im gonna try this on our farm truck, that had the same delamination your Honds had. Used the rustoleum on our tractors on small places, never crossed my mind to do the truck!!
    THANKS again.
    Hope your medical issues get resolved.

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  5 місяців тому

      Thank you. Got a surgery coming up in April. Hoping that helps! Good luck on the truck!

    • @SCRAMBLER390
      @SCRAMBLER390 5 місяців тому +1

      @@thejoyoffixing we'll be hoping and praying for your surgery to go well keep us on your channel informed, if possible.

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  5 місяців тому

      Thanks so much.

  • @movaughn20
    @movaughn20 4 місяці тому +3

    Id recommend someone looking to try this method, paint an exterior door on your house. It's the same process, same tools, materials. And most doors could use a nice cleaning, sand fill and fill dings on there front door? Home depot even gave me a can of bondo when I complained about a dented door they delivered.

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  4 місяці тому +1

      This would work great for exterior doors.

    • @movaughn20
      @movaughn20 4 місяці тому +1

      @@thejoyoffixing I do property management, enamels the way to go for front doors...

  • @2bleavin
    @2bleavin Рік тому +1

    thank you so much for sharing good info, Im about to paint an old ford van this is very helpful

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  Рік тому +1

      Awesome! Glad this helped! Again, I'll say, I recommend using primer on any areas that are bare metal. Just to make sure your bond is good! Otherwise, everything I said I stand by! Hope it goes great! Let me know!

  • @JoeZyzyx
    @JoeZyzyx 8 місяців тому

    In the 90's I decided to remove basement composite floor tiles, many had some lose, and I wanted to replace with sheet vinyl flooring. I used a product called stripeez, which I no longer see available. The "glue" under the tiles was some sort of black asphalt, and couldn't scrape it off. So I put that stripeez on it, but it was flashing off too quick and was too strong without using a fan for fresh air, which just made it flash even faster. I was bummed out for awhile, then came up with an idea to try. So, put on sections with the stripeez, immediately rolled on motor oil. That did it. It kept the stripper from flashing off too quick and cut down on excess fumes. I was then able to scrape all that old asphalt (home from 60's) the tiles were set into, and finally able to install the vinyl sheet flooring. So, I wonder if similar approach would work well for stripping car paint, allowing the stripper underneath the oil cover to work better. I guess that stripeez is one of the older ones you mentioned no longer produced. There is one with similar name and I'm guessing that's what replaced the old version I had in the 90's.

  • @mikeloki2064
    @mikeloki2064 Рік тому +3

    For the acetone, get regular/not disposable, nitrile gloves to protect your hands. The acetone can't eat through those.

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah. I have had acetone on my hands hundreds of times. It’s not bad. What’s bad is when it melts something to your hand. Not great.

  • @emilyh4892
    @emilyh4892 3 місяці тому +1

    I am about to test this out on a van too. So excited.

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  3 місяці тому

      Watch all the videos first. The long edit and the 1 year follow up

  • @diycast6914
    @diycast6914 6 місяців тому +1

    Hey man thanks soo much for these videos, knowledge/experience- sharing, and being an inspiration to fellow DIYers. I used regular gloss white rustoleum to roll onto my 21 year old car and it held up 4-5 years before specks on the roof started flaking off. The car was never garaged, rarely ever washed, and never clear-coated. But now I'm interested in using this Tractor paint on a different vehicle for better longevity.
    Quick question though....you mentioned wiping down the car with BOTH rubbing alcohol and then acetone before painting. Is that really necessary, or can you just use one or the other?

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  6 місяців тому +1

      Acetone cleans off oils and adhesives really good. But rubbing alcohol is good. Just hit raw metal with a little primer!

  • @paulkemp6459
    @paulkemp6459 6 днів тому +1

    I noticed you made a comment about painting a black car, with the black paint, which is exactly what I was planning on doing, so what should my reservations be? I would be ok with semigloss in place of high gloss if that is available. I would appreciate your advice. Thanks Paul

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  5 днів тому +1

      If you’re using this tractor paint, I don’t think it comes in different gloss options. It’s glossy because there’s so much enamel in it. If you need something else you’re going to end up going with maybe one of the other enamel rust oleum. You might have to do a little more research on that.

    • @paulkemp6459
      @paulkemp6459 5 днів тому +1

      @@thejoyoffixing ok thanks for the reply 👍🏼

  • @robertdiehl9003
    @robertdiehl9003 Рік тому

    Excellent explanation...

  • @micwell2247
    @micwell2247 10 місяців тому +1

    Great info. I have a utility trailer I built out of hot rolled steel to which spray balm paint just does not stick to. Gonna do the implement paint yet this year...thanks for the info

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  9 місяців тому +1

      Oh dude this is the key to a tough clean trailer. I have one I just picked up…. Maybe I’ll paint it with the leftover black!

  • @danstiverson
    @danstiverson 9 місяців тому +1

    Hi. Thanks for this.
    How many coats did you do? How smooth was it? Can you show close up pics of the sheen? Did you sand between coats? Why not spray it on?

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  9 місяців тому

      Almost all these questions will be answered multiple times in other comments. I’d repeat them, but I know it’s really well explained if you just scroll and read replies on the “short edit” of the actual car painting video I posted. I’ll be doing an update video in the next few weeks as well.
      Thanks for watching, Dan!

  • @fortheloveofnoise
    @fortheloveofnoise Рік тому +1

    I wish they had the Rust-Oleum engine block paint in a bucket and not just spray cans....talk about heat not being an issue.

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  Рік тому

      That would be awesome. That stuff is bullet proof

  • @JoeZyzyx
    @JoeZyzyx 8 місяців тому +1

    What "nap" did you use? The 1/4 or 3/8 inch?

  • @nehpetsrellek2750
    @nehpetsrellek2750 Рік тому +1

    Good info, I'll be painting my 1998 dodge 350 van wagon come summer. I liked the video and subscribed. TKS.
    I am considering a textured look, got any ideas on how to do it, do they make a four inch roller that leaves a textured look?

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  Рік тому +1

      Don't do the textured look. It'll end up uneven. Get yourself some primer and make sure to hit any areas that are down to bare metal. If you're going for a flat paint, I recommend the Rustoleum Enamel Paint applied the same way. Use the foam roller.
      Thanks for subscribing. I have some cool new content coming after the new year.

    • @nehpetsrellek2750
      @nehpetsrellek2750 Рік тому +1

      @@thejoyoffixing 👍 TKS.

    • @PatricellisParadise
      @PatricellisParadise Місяць тому

      ​@nehpetsrellek2750 how did your van hold up? I'm about to roller paint my 00 ram 3500 van

  • @Bonafide_SMOKE
    @Bonafide_SMOKE 9 місяців тому +2

    So i use the paint, can i wet sand or dry sand, to smooth it out, so i can compound and polish it? Please respond....because i really need to try this.....

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  9 місяців тому +1

      I’ve not done either. Read the comments in this video: ua-cam.com/video/Yw9O2mNKfkg/v-deo.htmlsi=03L3DIb00iWHsbFO
      Look at comments about “roll and tipping”. Thinner paint more coats.

  • @JoeJoe-gq5ff
    @JoeJoe-gq5ff Рік тому +1

    Would adding a hardner be good?

  • @imaouima
    @imaouima 10 місяців тому +2

    Lots of people use Rustoleum, has anyone used something like Total Boat? Since it has UV protection, it might last longer than Rustoleum?

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  10 місяців тому +1

      That's an interesting question. I've never heard of "total boat" but i'll look into it.

  • @alanobrien3138
    @alanobrien3138 9 місяців тому +2

    How many cans of paint you think you need for a 4 runner.

  • @awee5816
    @awee5816 10 місяців тому +5

    Hey man are your Farm tractor 🚜 Restoleum Roll paint jobs on your cars still good?

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  10 місяців тому +5

      Absolutely. It handled direct impact from 2 different cars and literally took almost no damage. a Wet rag to clean up scuffs left from the OTHER cars paint and it was back to the way I had it. This paint has been BEYOND the toughness I expected.

    • @awee5816
      @awee5816 10 місяців тому +1

      @@thejoyoffixing wow! That's amazing! Thanks 👍 for the info bud. Maybe you should do an update on the paint.

  • @scotthorn2868
    @scotthorn2868 4 місяці тому

    I have a gallon of Acetone would that be fine to thin the paint with before rolling?

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  4 місяці тому +1

      I’m not sure how acetone reacts with the enamel. I’d imagine it’s fine but you should check with rustoleum

  • @Stocks824
    @Stocks824 2 місяці тому

    Will 400 grit sand paper work for this? I’ve sanded with this and feel it’s ready but wondering your thoughts

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  2 місяці тому +1

      Seems a little light. I’d go rougher

    • @Stocks824
      @Stocks824 2 місяці тому

      @@thejoyoffixing you think 320 grit will work? Or what’s your recommendation?

    • @Stocks824
      @Stocks824 2 місяці тому

      For context, I used 400 grit to prep my car hood that had minor sun damage, I then used primer, painted it black with a spray can, and then a clear coat but it turned out bad. Flakes everything etc. I sanded it with 400 grit and there’s clearly no clear coat now and down to the black coat. What should I do? 320 on it then paint with the Rust-Oleum tractor and implement? I have the paint but want to make sure it sticks. Like I said it’s 400 grit sanded now. Thanks for your videos and input!

  • @rickyitterly6560
    @rickyitterly6560 4 місяці тому +1

    How long does this paint take to dry?

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  4 місяці тому +2

      About 24 hours -48 hours for full cure. Dry to touch in 8 hours.

  • @TheIndianscout
    @TheIndianscout 5 місяців тому +1

    Can this paint be mixed into any color or is it limited colors?

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  5 місяців тому +2

      You have to mix it yourself using the base colors they sell. For our color I mixed ford blue and black

    • @TheIndianscout
      @TheIndianscout 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@thejoyoffixingok .Thanks for the reply.Nice job on the van.

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks

  • @DiscoTex-fv1om
    @DiscoTex-fv1om 4 місяці тому +2

    I'm going to to this to my 2007 Crown Victoria that the factory paint has peeled off in some areas to bare metal. Old police car, the factory paint sucks.

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  4 місяці тому +1

      Those interceptor crown vics are awesome. Do it 2 tone, brother! Also, watch my 1 year follow up video for a few more tips so you get the best results!

  • @bmds9151
    @bmds9151 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm thinking of doing this. How much paint did you need? I'm wanting to paint my Chevy Silverado.

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  3 місяці тому +2

      I don’t think I even used an entire gallon.
      Make sure to watch the 1 year follow up video for a few extra tips

    • @bmds9151
      @bmds9151 3 місяці тому +1

      @@thejoyoffixing I have. More than once. I think I'm obsessing too much. (Being clinically OCD doesn't help, lol) Anyways... I'm thinking Rust-Oleum farm paint because of the affordability and the durability. And I'm leaning towards a dark Olive green. Since they don't have that, I'll have to mix black and yellow. Just wanting to make sure I have enough to do it right. Thanks.

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  3 місяці тому +1

      Dark green olive is a personal favorite. I have an old John deer gator I’m about to get working on and I’m gonna probably paint it.
      Black and yellow will make the olive green? No blue? I’m curious.

    • @bmds9151
      @bmds9151 3 місяці тому

      @@thejoyoffixing yep. I think there's a couple of methods. But the simplest is yellow and black. I'm experimenting with it now. I think a 3 part yellow and 1 part black looks pretty good. I tried a 2:1 yellow to black, but it came out a bit dark. I bought a couple of bottles of paint from Walmart for like 60 cents a piece so I could try it out. I want to do the body Olive green, and the hood and rims and grill black. I think it'll have a military look.

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  2 місяці тому

      That sounds awesome. You better post it and let me know. I’m excited to see it

  • @sergioberlin7836
    @sergioberlin7836 Рік тому

    Can i use a spray gun? Please advice 3:54 😊

  • @Gangstawalk1
    @Gangstawalk1 Рік тому +2

    Is primer paint really necessary?

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  Рік тому

      I didn’t use any but honestly it’s such an easy step I’d recommend it. However, this paint has held up just fine so far.

    • @Gangstawalk1
      @Gangstawalk1 Рік тому +1

      @@thejoyoffixing interesting, where i live (reunion island) i dont have the brand rustoleum, but a local brand paint oil with antirust propertie for metal use

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  Рік тому

      @@Gangstawalk1 Krylon would also be acceptable. What you're describing sounds ok. Might just apply a little different than what we used.

  • @nopriors
    @nopriors 14 днів тому

    Where did you get the Farm paint?

  • @williambailey9917
    @williambailey9917 Рік тому +3

    home depot has 2 quarts for $25

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  Рік тому +3

      I feel like if you had a black car, and you sanded it down really good, and you just wanted 1 coat of flat black.... you could get the quart and come out looking like a champ.

  • @deano1223
    @deano1223 Рік тому +1

    Thought I'd give this a go , I prepped as I would to spray , for some reason I just cannot get rid of the roller marks ! I've tried to wet and dry after a few day . Maybe it's because I'm going sheen black

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  Рік тому

      Yeah this is why I would roll on the paint then go back and roll out the roller lines.

    • @deano1223
      @deano1223 Рік тому +1

      Ok thanks , I'll give it another coat in a few days ! In the UK so not blessed with the gine weather 😅😅😅

  • @franceskeith4934
    @franceskeith4934 Рік тому +2

    i had to do my 2016 charger outside if u have to make sure your dad dosent decide to cut the grass

  • @mr.gutwrench
    @mr.gutwrench 10 місяців тому +4

    @4:00 Really? People made meth out of aircraft stripper? I remember in the 1980's I was working at a tractor trailer dealership in Orlando FL. The boss had these 2 morons using aircraft stripper on a semi-trailer, they were not wearing gloves. After a while the skin on their hands was blistering up just like the paint does. They were in a world of pain when they asked the shop foreman to have someone drive them to a clinic. He said no, I'm not wasting another worker just to drive you 2 to the clinic. It was too late to save the skin anyway, but I could hear him crying while trying to drive the shop truck w/out power steering and manual trans. as his skin stretched loose from his fingers. Both of their hands looked like something from a horror movie. They came back with mummy wrapped hands. That's not the end of the story, but all that's relevant to the comment section...

    • @Rick-qf5de
      @Rick-qf5de 10 місяців тому +2

      Tools are disposable , when they break you throw them in the garbage and you hire another tool.... 😮

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  9 місяців тому

      It’s true

    • @MissElaineous247
      @MissElaineous247 9 місяців тому

      @@Rick-qf5de LOVED that comment! All jokes aside though, some people are just idiots. If they intentionally ignore safety instructions and refuse to take basic and necessary precautions with chemicals and machinery, then terrible things like this happen. I feel absolutely stupid wearing eye protection, gloves, and boots when I'm working on projects but it's saved me many trips to the ER :)

  • @EdKrebs-jb7vo
    @EdKrebs-jb7vo 2 місяці тому

    For some reason Amazon cannot ship this paint to California.😭

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  2 місяці тому +1

      Sounds like time to get out of California.
      Sadly you might need to take a long drive to a neighboring state to get your paint.

    • @EdKrebs-jb7vo
      @EdKrebs-jb7vo 2 місяці тому

      Well after much searching, I found 2 quarts on eBay that are already in CA. Ford Red. I'll send a photo when it's done.
      Oh, and I live in a little slice of coastal paradise that I would never consider leaving. 🥰

  • @davidhenderson3252
    @davidhenderson3252 2 місяці тому

    Can a hardener be used for more gloss and how much do I add, along with, say penetrol?

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  2 місяці тому

      Watch the 1 year follow up video. Also read comments in the short edit video. There’s tons of answers there! It’s worth checking out.
      Big fan of penetrol and “brush and tip”

  • @grandpasmountain
    @grandpasmountain 7 місяців тому

    Tractor supply paint or Rural King paint is GARBAGE.
    I made the mistake of repainting our horse trailer with their "house brand" paint.
    Color faded first year very badly and paint started to fail after 2 years.
    I'd like to hear about this Rust-Oleum after 3 or 4 years.
    Cheap automotive paint, which is far superior to Rust-Oleum is available for just a little more and it will last a long time.

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  7 місяців тому

      Not my experience, but open to all experiences here! We all have seen things from our own eyes.

  • @williamrobinson6680
    @williamrobinson6680 8 місяців тому +6

    No no noooo. There's so many body shops heavily invested in education, equipment and shop space. Just pay them the $6000 and give back to the community. Money isn't everything. We've got to look out for one another.

    • @thejoyoffixing
      @thejoyoffixing  8 місяців тому +8

      I’m good, buddy

    • @glasshalfempty1984
      @glasshalfempty1984 7 місяців тому +7

      Wait you aren't serious are you? You got to be joking This can't be a serious comment.

    • @silentscream0512384
      @silentscream0512384 4 місяці тому +5

      Money isn't everything, but when you don't have enough. You do what you gotta do. Plus painting by hand is fun.

    • @emilyh4892
      @emilyh4892 3 місяці тому +2

      you forgot the /s for sarcasm homie

    • @LeviticusMoriarty
      @LeviticusMoriarty 15 днів тому

      Oh sorry, because I have 6 grand to “give back to the community”