Some things that everyone has missed are that Z4M weighs in at 1485 kgs which is quite porky, whereas the Alpina is only 1320kgs, that is a difference of 165kg or 2 two of me!. That is another reason why handles better and is faster than the Z4M. If Porsche stripped out that much weight from a Boxster and fitted a hand built engine with forged pistons and a load of other racing mods, the world would be going mad for it
This Alpina is immaculate, perfectly detailed and clearly in the right hands. One of the main attractions of this car is the ownership pleasure that comes with keeping it in the best possible condition, which this owner clearly does. I am not a fan of soft tops, but this is the very first I'd own in a heartbeat - and it would be a fabulous stablemate for my Z4 M Coupe, which would be my driving choice for a fang. The Alpina for more sedate trips with SWMBO :). Such a special and rare car.
It's good to reflect on old YT videos. I was in the market to buy a Z4M Roadster last year, however I landed up buying an Alpina Roadster #98. What swung it for me were 1: the looks wheels and body kit. 2: no battery taking up precious boot space 3: everyday compliant suspension and torque delivery from the engine. It may not be as track focused as the Z4M however in my eyes it's a better performance sports car in the real World. Yes both cars are special and true bargains. Another 👍🏻s up from me Joel.
Alpinas are special!! What makes this one even more special is the fact that there was no alpina of the E89 and most certainly there won’t be one of the brand new Z4 due to limited demand nowadays..
Z4 M Coupe and Roadster: possibly the last near-analogue BMW: NA engine, 6sp manual, hydraulic steering, mechanical LSD, ITBs - raw connected drive like no BMW since, and few peers in other brands. They're not making cars like this ever again - these are very rare, get 'em before they get too hot!
Two of the cars listed may have issues hence their prices. They have also been listed over the winter period prior to lockdown. Prices for this type of car are likely to fall further at a guess.
@@Z4loorit There were 1052 RHD Z4 M Coupes built (all in Spartanburg, like all Z4 Ms). Not all came to UK, as some went to New Zealand (8 and I have one), Australia (103), South Africa and Japan, and possibly some other RHD markets. I think 578 came to UK (not confirmed). It's as rare as the Z3 M Coupe, and shares with that car, a very raw character - much more so than the E46 M3, and E60 M5. And that is part of its appeal along with rarity and unique styling.
Hey Joel, I like your channel and I have subscribed to it. I do know what Alpina is but mainly because of the B7 & B6. I did not know that Alpina Z4 and probably never see one in person because I am in the United States (Texas). Although I do own a 2003 Z4 2.5 SMG transmission with 175,000 miles and owned it since 2005 (2nd owner). I love it and it's been trouble free (just normal maintenance).
Run flats did come on the M cars, at least in the states. I just got an M Coupe a few days ago and the dealer tried to sell me run flats, and couldn't put anything else on the car, per corporate BMW's rules. Went down the street to a Big O and got some Pilot Sport 4's. Great car, and the Alpina one also looks amazing in its own way.
Run flats are horrific on the Z4M Coupe (and I presume the Roadster also). Combined with the OEM suspension, the stiff sidewalls result in a crashing ride. Every little bump is exaggerated, and any big ones crash through like you are running on the rims! Believe me, I had some on a replacement set of rims bought second hand. Replacing them with Pilot Super Sports transformed the ride!
I love Alpina, my boss drives a Alpina B7 and that thing is dope!!! Unfortunately visually It just doesn't look all that different however the engine is an upgrade so right on! Google the numbers on the Z4 Coupes, Bmw made less than four thousand of them and of those four thousand 1500 of them were z4m Coupes the the remainder were 3.0 SI coupes. so in actuality the Coupes were even rarer than the roadsters.
I've heard of this. You lied to me!!! Was gonna get one when I was looking at the M but then decided on the coupe 3.0si.....id like to say it's because wanted to and it was my choice but the truth is I'm pussy whipped.
They sound all tinny because there is no soundproofing installed to save weight. If you want your door to go 'plop' rather than 'clunk' you can retro-fit soundproofing into your doors.
@@matahari555 soundproofing the door will not make them structurally any different, so give me a lighter door over a "nicer sounding" door any day! I mean you hear it for a fraction of a second....
@@nickmatthews4939 It's great to have a choice (if you can find them!). For me it's the M Coupe all the way, for it's driving dynamics, and that S54 engine!! But I totally get the appeal of the Alpina - I have a mate with an E60 B5, and a E30 B3 replica he has built himself.
@@itsjoel I am just watching that video and Mark's car was an extremely clean example, probably the best E85 ever built for me.... I have owned a two tone E89 35is for a year and have never seen another since, yet.. I know E85 drivers don't typically like the E89 looks.....mine is red with black top the 369 lbs torque 500 nm makes the 1M engine in it very flexible, and people luv the 1M.
Some things that everyone has missed are that Z4M weighs in at 1485 kgs which is quite porky, whereas the Alpina is only 1320kgs, that is a difference of 165kg or 2 two of me!. That is another reason why handles better and is faster than the Z4M. If Porsche stripped out that much weight from a Boxster and fitted a hand built engine with forged pistons and a load of other racing mods, the world would be going mad for it
This Alpina is immaculate, perfectly detailed and clearly in the right hands. One of the main attractions of this car is the ownership pleasure that comes with keeping it in the best possible condition, which this owner clearly does. I am not a fan of soft tops, but this is the very first I'd own in a heartbeat - and it would be a fabulous stablemate for my Z4 M Coupe, which would be my driving choice for a fang. The Alpina for more sedate trips with SWMBO :). Such a special and rare car.
I do love the Alpina Z4! Sweet ride, the one I drove had the red and interior and was divine!
Nice to reflect on a special variant of this brilliant car 👍
I thought so, thanks for watching James
It's good to reflect on old YT videos. I was in the market to buy a Z4M Roadster last year, however I landed up buying an Alpina Roadster #98. What swung it for me were
1: the looks wheels and body kit.
2: no battery taking up precious boot space
3: everyday compliant suspension and torque delivery from the engine.
It may not be as track focused as the Z4M however in my eyes it's a better performance sports car in the real World. Yes both cars are special and true bargains. Another 👍🏻s up from me Joel.
Very interesting. So cool to be able to say you have a certain build number of a car too right? I’d definitely like to own one of these in the future
Alpinas are special!! What makes this one even more special is the fact that there was no alpina of the E89 and most certainly there won’t be one of the brand new Z4 due to limited demand nowadays..
Yeah. Editing this video has really made me want one whilst they’re still ‘affordable’
Z4M ditched runflats, aswell as electric steering.
Nice Alpina!
Z4 M Coupe and Roadster: possibly the last near-analogue BMW: NA engine, 6sp manual, hydraulic steering, mechanical LSD, ITBs - raw connected drive like no BMW since, and few peers in other brands. They're not making cars like this ever again - these are very rare, get 'em before they get too hot!
Audidude Very true! Their time surely must come soon, i.e. when it gets recognized by Carfection, Harry Metcalfe or Chris Harris! :)
Could you imagine if there was a alpina coupe
I’m kinda glad there isn’t, makes this one even more exclusive
That's a stunning example! Very nice! So cool how rare they are. I knew the numbers were low but had no idea they were that low!
Really interesting video Joel I had heard of the BMW Z4 Alphina but never have seen one. It looks a stunning car.
Looking on Ebay at the moment mate the Alpinas don't seem to be fetching a whole lot more than the E86 M coupes.
Among the M's, Coupes tend to be more than the equivalent mileage roadster. The fairer comparison would be among m roadster to alpina roadster
Yeah I compared it only to the M roadster in this video as the coupe is a slightly different type of car that might appeal to different people etc
U saying around 166 Alpinas for the UK. Wonder how many M coupes came over here.
Two of the cars listed may have issues hence their prices. They have also been listed over the winter period prior to lockdown. Prices for this type of car are likely to fall further at a guess.
@@Z4loorit There were 1052 RHD Z4 M Coupes built (all in Spartanburg, like all Z4 Ms). Not all came to UK, as some went to New Zealand (8 and I have one), Australia (103), South Africa and Japan, and possibly some other RHD markets. I think 578 came to UK (not confirmed). It's as rare as the Z3 M Coupe, and shares with that car, a very raw character - much more so than the E46 M3, and E60 M5. And that is part of its appeal along with rarity and unique styling.
Hey Joel, I like your channel and I have subscribed to it. I do know what Alpina is but mainly because of the B7 & B6. I did not know that Alpina Z4 and probably never see one in person because I am in the United States (Texas). Although I do own a 2003 Z4 2.5 SMG transmission with 175,000 miles and owned it since 2005 (2nd owner). I love it and it's been trouble free (just normal maintenance).
Hey, thanks so much. Great to hear that you’d never heard of the Alpina roadster!
I am only starting to find out about Alpinas - so thanks
Excellent, glad the video was of some interest
It's a stunning example, I went out in this car for a while and really loved it.
Yes, it really is. Grey with red leather has to be the best combo!
Alpina wheels are something special
I agree!
The alpina z4 is faster than a z4m but no one is ready for that conversation LOL
Run flats did come on the M cars, at least in the states. I just got an M Coupe a few days ago and the dealer tried to sell me run flats, and couldn't put anything else on the car, per corporate BMW's rules. Went down the street to a Big O and got some Pilot Sport 4's. Great car, and the Alpina one also looks amazing in its own way.
Great choice
Run flats are horrific on the Z4M Coupe (and I presume the Roadster also). Combined with the OEM suspension, the stiff sidewalls result in a crashing ride. Every little bump is exaggerated, and any big ones crash through like you are running on the rims! Believe me, I had some on a replacement set of rims bought second hand. Replacing them with Pilot Super Sports transformed the ride!
@@itsjoel I'm almost certain that the Z4Ms never came with run flats. The ride cost on the M suspension was just too much!
Love this car 👍
It’s so beautiful
I love Alpina, my boss drives a Alpina B7 and that thing is dope!!! Unfortunately visually It just doesn't look all that different however the engine is an upgrade so right on! Google the numbers on the Z4 Coupes, Bmw made less than four thousand of them and of those four thousand 1500 of them were z4m Coupes the the remainder were 3.0 SI coupes. so in actuality the Coupes were even rarer than the roadsters.
I've heard of this. You lied to me!!! Was gonna get one when I was looking at the M but then decided on the coupe 3.0si.....id like to say it's because wanted to and it was my choice but the truth is I'm pussy whipped.
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Really liked this one, very interesting! 🙂
Glad you liked it, thanks for watching!
Do these come with an LSD?
Wish there was a facelift Alpina Z4!
Joel., what are the doors sounding like on the Alpina?, Normal Zed's are terrible sounding & super Tinny
They sound all tinny because there is no soundproofing installed to save weight. If you want your door to go 'plop' rather than 'clunk' you can retro-fit soundproofing into your doors.
@@matahari555 I know, I did mine last week, I just wondered on the Alpina, whether this issue was rectified as stock, thats all
@@matahari555 soundproofing the door will not make them structurally any different, so give me a lighter door over a "nicer sounding" door any day! I mean you hear it for a fraction of a second....
@@Audidude I agree with you. Soundproofing appeals to those who want their doors to make plop rather than twang. And this can be done. That's all.
Heard of them, never seen one, but have deliberated for many hours over whether I prefer the Alpina or the Z4M.
It’s incredible how rare they are!
It's Joel I like rare, but they’re pretty special too. But I really like the Z4m coupe too.
Both cars are really special. Please read my comments left here as to why I went for the Alpina. 👍🏻
@@nickmatthews4939 It's great to have a choice (if you can find them!). For me it's the M Coupe all the way, for it's driving dynamics, and that S54 engine!! But I totally get the appeal of the Alpina - I have a mate with an E60 B5, and a E30 B3 replica he has built himself.
This is my next car , with out a doubt!
I hope this dream comes true for you. I absolutely love mine 👍🏻
I know this alphina, I recognised the wheels immediately....very nice... :-)
Wheels have to be one of the best bits!
@@itsjoel I am just watching that video and Mark's car was an extremely clean example, probably the best E85 ever built for me.... I have owned a two tone E89 35is for a year and have never seen another since, yet.. I know E85 drivers don't typically like the E89 looks.....mine is red with black top the 369 lbs torque 500 nm makes the 1M engine in it very flexible, and people luv the 1M.
I love the wheels! But as a car, I’ll stick with my M.
Alpina alloys? May this be the Z4 Alpina S we never heard of? Next to which an M with a 3l engine looks decidedly anorexic.😂