Sabbath in the Orthodox Church

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  • @HikiOmo
    @HikiOmo 4 роки тому +12

    My family literally won't let me rest on Sundays.

  • @elizabethshaw734
    @elizabethshaw734 4 роки тому +2

    I always enjoy hearing your thoughts. :-)

  • @greenergrass4060
    @greenergrass4060 3 роки тому +5

    I always thought that Saturday is the Sabbath, and remained so.
    But we still worship on Sunday

    • @thekingofsomewhere
      @thekingofsomewhere 3 роки тому +6

      Saturday _is_ still the Sabbath, which is why the words for Saturday in other languages like Greek, Spanish, Russian, etc. translate to "Sabbath".
      Saturday and Sunday are also both festive days, the favored days for celebrating the Liturgy, and also days on which we either don't fast or fasts are lessened (like during Lent). Sunday is a festal day because it is the most important day for Christians when Christ rose fron the dead, and Saturday is one specifically because its the Sabbath.
      The thing is though, Sunday is in a sense, a fulfillment of the Saturday Sabbath. Great and Holy Saturday, when Christ rested in the tomb, is considered the day that Christ kept the Sabbath perfectly; His body rested in the tomb, and as God He descended into Hades to raise up the dead bound there. Saturday acts as a sort of "precursor" to Sunday, since Saturday is the 7th day, when God completed His creation, and Sunday is the 1st and "8th" day (8 being a number associated with renewal) in which God renewed mankind He created by His resurrection from the dead.

    • @marriage4life893
      @marriage4life893 2 роки тому +1

      God never changed the Sabbath day. It's still on the seventh day of the week. Yeshua claimed to be Lord of the Sabbath in Matthew 12, Mark 2, and Luke 6... and he said that on the Sabbath day long before he was in the tomb.
      In Leviticus 23, God gave appointed times, which point to Christ, Colossians 2:16-17.
      For example, Christ's sacrifice fulfills Passover. This is why Paul calls us to remember Passover, and calls Christ our Passover Lamb in 1st Corinthians 5.
      Paul also calls Christ the first fruits from among the dead in 1st Corinthians 15, which doesn't make the first day of the week special. It emphasizes the importance of the waving of the sheaf offering at the festival of First Fruits in Leviticus 23. And the Eighth Great Day is not about some man-made philosophy that points to Sunday. 8th Great Day is also found in the biblical appointed times that follows the seven day festival of Tabernacles, where God comes to dwell with His people, and the Eighth Great Day that follows points to future renewal after the reign of Christ on earth.
      Were you aware of God's calendar of times in Leviticus 23? They all point to Christ, and they start with the Sabbath. In fact, God Himself says in Exodus 31 that the Sabbath is the sign of creation; that in six days He created the heavens and the earth. That's what God said. No need to make up stuff about 8 and 1st to keep a tradition, especially if that tradition is used to void the command of God that He wrote in stone with His own hand- expressing its perpetuity.
      There's no greater or lesser Sabbath. That's only one, and it's what God sanctified at the conclusion of creation.
      Have a great and fantastic day!

    • @grey0966
      @grey0966 2 роки тому +1

      @@marriage4life893 interesting. What denomination are you ?

    • @marriage4life893
      @marriage4life893 Рік тому

      @truly blessed Hello and peace to you. I am not part of a particular denomination.

    • @RustyTheWalrus
      @RustyTheWalrus Рік тому

      @@marriage4life893 Exactly, You made YOUR own interpertation that has never been viewed at all in history. Following Leviticus 23 means following the entire chapter and book, including all sacrificial laws. There is a 1st and 8th day, because that marks the new age... when WE finally reach the 8th day... for we are still in Gods 7th day, it never ended. So infact, its is a higher theology to follow the Lords day while keeping the Sabbath still. Even if you are right, your view isnt credible anywhere else because you cameup with this yourself.

  • @elizabethshaw734
    @elizabethshaw734 4 роки тому +1

    It figures that I would decide you convert during the time of the novel Coronavirus! However I have studied so much and prayed so hard that I should have a degree in Orthodoxy by now. No word of a lie or joke. Please feel better soon my brother in Christ! I pray for you.

  • @Zevviews8
    @Zevviews8 5 років тому +2

    As a raised Orthodox Jew, who kept shabbat the Sabbath from friday sundown to saturday when the first 3 stars come out. This is commanded for the Jews to keep for all generations never to abolished for the Jews.

    • @BanterWithBojan
      @BanterWithBojan  5 років тому

      What are your experiences with it? :-)

    • @bonniejohnstone
      @bonniejohnstone 5 років тому +5

      Zevviews8 Sometimes people think that Christians have changed the Sabbath to Sunday which isn’t the case. Sunday is the Day of Resurrection (the Lords Day).
      At first the Apostles and followers of Christ went to the Temple and synagogue of Saturday like always. They met on the first day of the week also for the Eucharist and teaching.

    • @marriage4life893
      @marriage4life893 Рік тому +2

      In Acts 2:42, during the time of Shavuot, it says those in Jerusalem worshiped in the temple and met in each other's homes daily to eat a meal. So, they not only observed the festivals of the Lord, but they fellowshiped all other days. They didn't disregard the Sabbath for the first day of the week. The Sabbath is still blessed and sanctified by God. Calling the first day the Lord's day is tradition that should not take precedent over what God sanctified since creation, when there was no death or sin.
      I fear many Christians have made void the command of God for the sake of their tradition.
      Some will say Sabbath is a lesser Sabbath and the first day is greater. That's false. There is only one Sabbath, and it's the seventh day.
      What's worse is that many will blame Christ's resurrection for their disobedience to God's command to keep the Sabbath holy. It's really scary and sad.
      Have a blessed Sabbath this week, and may the Father bless you with many more.

  • @oj6919
    @oj6919 5 років тому +1

    Thank you my brother. God bless

  • @matthewferguson1846
    @matthewferguson1846 5 років тому +1

    At 6:06 it is recorded how "God" sent Gabriel of book of Daniel fame to tell the man not to throw stones at dogs.

  • @wiktorb1223
    @wiktorb1223 Рік тому

    As ethiopians were Jews before ,they have sabbath and sunday free

  • @megusultracool
    @megusultracool 5 років тому +7

    3:07 he burps

    • @luisnuke8389
      @luisnuke8389 5 років тому +1

      Thanks

    • @BanterWithBojan
      @BanterWithBojan  5 років тому +8

      Best comment ever.
      Now that I listen to the video, I make enough mouth sounds to qualify for a TED Talk.

  • @joelscott4384
    @joelscott4384 4 роки тому

    Well done.

  • @PrenticeBoy1688
    @PrenticeBoy1688 2 роки тому +2

    I am a Reformed Protestant, but my issue with the Eastern prospective on the Sabbath as you've stated it, I think, is down to the differences between East and West rather than a Protestant/RC+EO issue. We view the Jewish Sabbath as one of the elements of the Law that was fulfilled by Jesus Christ. As you stated towards the end of your video, we hold to the belief that our entire life is the Sabbath following the Incarnation, crucifixion, resurrection and Ascension of Our Lord. Clinging to the Sabbath of the Old Covenant would suggest that our better Sabbath is deficient. We view Sunday, the Lord's Day, separately from the old Sabbath.
    I agree with your statement that the Lord's Day is greater than the Jewish Sabbath. It certainly is!!!

    • @GabrielLukeCraig
      @GabrielLukeCraig 2 роки тому +1

      I get that, truly. But the practicality of the sabbath to me was to have physical rest from hard labor done through the week and to have a day where you can just focus on him without worrying yourself with the rest of life's troubles. So I feel like it is necessary to keep that to some degree, because no one can do this every single day. Unless you're a monk, and there really aren't protestant monks for the most part, which was a huge pull to the EO church for me. Would love you hear your thoughts. May God bless

  • @user-to7qd5gk5k
    @user-to7qd5gk5k 4 роки тому +1

    As a jew I really never understood why christian holy day is Sunday and not Saturday. Thanks you bery much!
    I know you don't say this like this but it is much funnier

    • @bonflew4848
      @bonflew4848 4 роки тому +2

      It's because of Constantine, probably he just wanted the Christianity more "Roman Friendly" so he made a few tweaks to adopt it for his empire.

    • @user-to7qd5gk5k
      @user-to7qd5gk5k 4 роки тому +1

      @@bonflew4848 why do your days end at midnight also?

    • @bonflew4848
      @bonflew4848 4 роки тому +2

      On our church we follow that 24 hours-day, but from Friday sundown to Saturday sundown we observe Sabbath. It's very unique from most of the Christian churches today.

    • @justiniand6a788
      @justiniand6a788 3 роки тому +9

      @@bonflew4848 , actually, the practice of Sunday as the Day of Worship goes back to the Apostles. In the Acts of the Apostles, it mentions the Apostles congregating on the First Day of the Week to "Break Bread" (an obvious reference to the Eucharist). The notion of Sunday as the Lord's Day which supersedes the Sabbath is reiterated constantly in the Early Church Fathers. By the time Constantine declared Sunday a Civil Day of Rest for the Empire, he was not making the Church Rome-Friendly (he would not have such authority to do so nor would the Bishops consent if he changed anything in Christianity) but make the Empire Church-Friendly.

    • @marriage4life893
      @marriage4life893 2 роки тому +1

      The Christian holy day is Sabbath, not the first day. Yeshua never changed the day. It's purely a tradition, but Sabbath remains the day God sanctified and commanded to be remembered. The seventh day, not the first.

  • @marycayburkindine1003
    @marycayburkindine1003 Рік тому

    I was wondering what His means? In your drswing.

  • @mement0_m0ri
    @mement0_m0ri Рік тому

    I never knew Orthodox Churches had Divine Liturgy on Saturday! Is this true? In my parish we only have vespers on Saturday. I don't know any parishes where I live that have Divine Liturgy on Saturday.

    • @Tornadospeed10
      @Tornadospeed10 9 місяців тому

      Never heard of that too. My church specifically won’t do liturgy on Saturday and only vespers as well

    • @awesomesocks42
      @awesomesocks42 9 місяців тому

      @@Tornadospeed10 That's kind of disturbing. Maybe it's just for practical reasons? We only have Saturday liturgy in my parish (technically it doesn't even have a status as its own parish) once a month or so, as we only have one elderly priest and a depleted choir.

  • @szymongrala3810
    @szymongrala3810 5 років тому

    Hey Boyan! Which website you recommend, where you have a huge number of Orthodox Icons to buy? Please, give me a respond.

    • @BanterWithBojan
      @BanterWithBojan  5 років тому +3

      Here: www.uncutmountainsupply.com/

    • @bonniejohnstone
      @bonniejohnstone 5 років тому +1

      That’s a good question! Depends on where you are and which Saints your looking for too. There are more obscure Saints that are harder to find (some of the Irish, Scots and North American Saints...Chinese Saints etc.).
      There are different styles too. (I love Nikola Saric). Mull Monastery’s website in Scotland has Celtic Icons in a Celtic style. Nicholas Papas in America writes Icons from many, many areas of the World in an interesting style (he’s a friend) see his Facebook page. St. Vladimir’s Press has a large variety of icons. (Most Parishes have bookstores that order Icons here in America). So, For over here, the above resources are worth a look.

    • @karenbartlett1307
      @karenbartlett1307 5 років тому

      @@BanterWithBojanThanks, Bojan. I looked at their site-they have a beautiful icon of Christ Pantokrator from St. Catherine's Monestary. Registered with them and will order sometime soon, I hope.

    • @karenbartlett1307
      @karenbartlett1307 5 років тому

      @@bonniejohnstone Thanks, Bonnie. Stephen posted in another video the link to Mt. Athos-they also have icons. I ordered one and a prayer rope from them.

  • @scented-leafpelargonium3366
    @scented-leafpelargonium3366 Місяць тому

    "Sun"-day is not greater than "Saturday" as you say i.e. the 7th day Sabbath, and there is no "8th day" anywhere in Scripture! This is man-made conjecture and totally un-Biblical. 🙃
    Look at Jewish Biblical timings of sunset-to-sunset days & Yeshua's prophecy of 3 days & 3 nights and the Scriptures reveal that Yeshua was crucified on Wednesday (not that it matters what day of the week it happened on, but Gentile Christendom has made a doctrine out of pinning events to a day of the week instead of to Biblical dates and holy days - "MOADIM" = "Appointed Times") and 72 hours later rose just before sunset at the end of the weekly Sabbath just BEFORE the onset of "Sun"-day (named in honour of the SUN, not the Son) making Him truly Lord of the Sabbath and not "Sun"-day at all which is the first day of the working week all through Scripture, and is neither holy nor commanded by Yeshua/God.
    The first visitors prove this on "Sun"-day morning when they saw that He was ALREADY risen, so it happened some time BEFORE they arrived as no one saw Him actually rise.
    Thus incorrect interpretation of Biblical time-frames has produced a counterfeit Sabbath.
    "Sun"-day is not holy, and is not the resurrection day. Only the Sabbath of the LORD is. 🕎
    This can be corroborated if you look into it and not just blindly accept the teachings of men. Yeshua never even asked us to venerate His resurrection on a specific day weekly or annually (or both as the Gentiles do) anyhow, nor did He ask anyone to remember His birth on a "birth-day" like the pagans do, but rather He only instructed to remember His atoning death on the Day of Passover (Nisan 14th) "as often as ye do THIS" i.e. commemorate Passover - not "do this as often as you like", which is what goes on in most churches today.