Stephanie Mills: I Don't Think You Can Compare Beyonce to Diana Ross (Part 2)
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In this clip, Stephanie Mills and Shawn Prez engage in a friendly debate about Diana Ross and Beyonce. Stephanie argues that Diana Ross represents royalty, R&B, and class personified, while Beyonce is from a different generation that is more associated with hip-hop.
Interview by: Shawn Prez
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I agree. There was a class and elegance in Diana Ross's time that doesn't exist today. While the fame could be comparable, the rest cannot.
Agreed
Bey voice isnt as strong as stephanie, chaka, etc. Success for both. But just different
Bey is pop and hip and r&b.
Agreed. Compare a Diana Ross video and a Beyoncé video. Lol. There’s grace and something diff w Diana Ross. I also see Diana Ross as true r&b. Over the years r&b has changed and morphed into something else. Both legends in their right tho. Obviously. Lol
@@missrotf you literally said what I thought! You will never see Diana Ross, Patti LaBelle, Anita Baker, Dionne Warwick or Aretha Franklin in stage in a leotard sexing up a chair or twerking. You couldn't even imagine it because they're so classy it feels like it would diminish their class. I know that we're in a new era and dance moves have changed, but what we see from female entertainment today is heavily based in sexuality, that was not the case in Stephanie Mills era. Your voice was your presence and if you walked out on stage and never moved a limb and were covered from head to toe, your voice was enough to move people.
Stephanie Mills is an icon one hell of a vocalist
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Yes such class and elegance and voice as well
Yes she is❤
NO SHES NOT
Diana Ross also rose to fame in an era where black artists (ESPECIALLY BLACK FEMALE ARTISTS) had it WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more difficult than they do now. That's not to say there still aren't obstacles for black entertainers today but remember that during the early days of the Motortown Revue acts like The Supremes, The Tempations, The Miracles, etc. traveled to places down south where black and white people were separated during the concerts with a rope down the middle of the concert halls.
Diana and so many others helped to break barriers to allow acts like a Beyonce to rise to the top today. I love how Stephanie gave her opinion because she grew up and saw the impact of Diana and could compare it to Beyonce today. There's just a different lane in which both of these talented artists found their fame.
Class, glamor and success as an artist during the Motown days looks very different to the meaning of those words nowadays.
Very well said
Indeed! Even regular black folks back then dressed in a classy way compared to nowadays.
@@JoyHarrison Great poiny Joy! That's why I'm not surprised when I heard about violence in these urban night clubs. Most have no dress code anyway, you can come in with clean sneakers, jersey's, baseball caps, denim, etc., I mean, they walk in looking like thugs, not gentlemen. And the ladies are dressed in what a hooker would wear. I'm not surprised at the violence in that low class environment. Class today is not what class used to mean, when Diana Ross made her indelible mark.
She said what she said. You're interviewing a legend 🤫
No she’s not
only on youtube you'll see ridiculous exaggerating comments like this. nobody knows who this stephanie mills person is, she'll never be 1/10000 of what beyonce has achieved.
I agree with Stephanie.
So do I
So do I
So do I
DITTO.
You are 100 correct Stephanie, how can he say Beyonce and Diana Ross in the same sentence there is no comparison
I totally agree with Stephanie (who is legendary in her own right). Diana Ross broke down many of the barriers Beyonce is able to enjoy today. Not to take away from Beyonce either, it’s just no true comparison.
Beyoncé does stadiums. Let’s stop hating
@@checkthis5980 .... She overrated
@@redmanjohnson4616 prove it
@@checkthis5980 did you not see Diana Ross in stadiums?!
@@checkthis5980 As if Diana Ross never did stadiums lol
And on a different note, let me add here that STEPHANIE MILLS (the person the interview is truly about) was and is still one of the greatest singers of all time!
Ms. M. Moore
USA 🇺🇸
IM 46 MY SEVEN YEAR OLD GRANDDAUGHTER LISTENS TO HER
Exactly!
My favorite female singer of all time.
Oh yes, Ms. Mills can sing.
Yeah,but she's fake bougie and I don't like her anymore..
Diana Ross is the blueprint for how to be a Diva. Talent, hard work, grace. She knocked down doors for black female entertainers.Outstanding actress, crossover #1 hits,,record breaking concert tours, tv special, fashion icon, even had her own Diana doll. She inspired Oprah Winfrey(among many others) profoundly. Grace under fire and longevity.
Diana Ross, Tina Turner, and Grace Jones is who Beyonce has borrowed from which makes her one of the GOAT's!
She's overrated though
Two dolls actually lol
@@jasonallen3678 over rated if ur not looking for class, grace, elegance and style
@@dddddadadad1796 class? She slept with a married man 🙄
Thank you Ms. Stephanie for checking him! People really need to stop comparing Beyoncé to
Ms. Ross. there is no comparison, zero! Not even close.
The girl group is the only thing I would compare them
Meanwhile Diana makes a surprise visit to sing happy birthday to Beyonce. Give it a damn rest lol
First off don’t disrespect Beyoncé
@@Redboi-qh3oe Oh please. It’s disrespectful to put her name in the same breath as an ICON. She is no Diana Ross.
@@mikegreen8938 Jesus Christ could sing happy birthday to her. She still does not compare to the legend Diana Ross.
Diana Ross is the epitome of a Queen in the entertainment world. Ross crosses all genres and there is no one like her. Like Stephanie said, "Diana Ross is royalty. Beyonce is an entertainer, but she will never be what Diana Ross and Aretha Franklin are in music. They both are in a class all by themselves. VLAD was trying to be messy, but Stephanie straightened him out with class.
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Lady D..Ms. Ross..Aries March 26th. My birthday as well. Cannot compare the 2. Stephanie spoke the truth. ❤❤❤
Stephanie is right you CAN'T compare and Diana was always more polished.
This is what Trick Daddy was trying to say about Beyonce when she said she can't sing. He means she can sing but she can't _sang_ like this prime example in Stephanie Mills.
@@Mont3000 Yup and just like with Trick, Stephanie and so many others that don't ass kiss Bey, THEY are trying to make them walk back their words. I've never seen such ridiculousness in my life and I lived through MJ, Prince, Whitney, Janet, etc. It just shows they are hurting for real talent today to be so pressed over 1 entertainer. Can Beyonce carry a note absolutely BUT at the same time her voice is very trill/shrill and she yells a lot.
Diana Ross can’t be compared to anybody. She is in her own lane baby. She is one of the first that did . Trendsetter for real.
Blah please subjective. She is that to people in that era. But younger generations tend to not give a shit bc they have their superstars
Did you say 4st, After Dorothy Dandridge, Lena Horn, or even Etta James?
@@dredey1971 no I didn’t. I said one of the first.
One of the firsts, after many other beautiful singing and acting black women. We just gonna throw them and all of their accomplishments away because Diana showed up to the party later? Make it make sense.
Diana's voice isn't even that great if you really listen tbh. And she slept her way to the top
Yes, Ms. Stephanie ! You told absolutely no lies here. Love me some Diana 💕
That was the nicest way, I've ever heard, someone call Beyonce a hood rat.
😄😁😆😃😅🤣
Yeah I bet that's what she was really thinking.
Hahahaha exactly
Hahahaha!
never seen Diana booty dance no time.... LOL
"DIANA ROSS" is of Elegance-Glamour-Grace and more on a level of Lady Like Class. The background decor on stage when she performed was of respectful understanding and beauty of the scenery. My parents let us look at all of her performances. I can't let my kids look at Bey because she has a side to her that I choose not to comment on. Even if when Diana played in the 'WIZ', doesn't matter is she was in her 30's and by her vocal and stage play performances AND THEN MOVIES too.... No comparison to the style that she still has today. She broke records and touched many lives. She inspired many. Bey is 💯 HIP HOP. She is beautiful too. Bey was more R&B when she was with DESTINY CHILD. Since she left DC she has been HIP HOP. "DIANA" has a style of a 'DIVA"'. They do not even compare.
Agree Diana is a Legend Forever
Diana Ross is absolutely no comparison to Beyonce. I think Stephanie Mills is right. Beyonce is nothing like a Patti, Gladys, Diana and Aretha. Beyonce is the Queen of Pop of this Generation. This era is way different.
She’s Beyoncé
@@ZAYA.21
Absolutely and in a class all by herself. She is fierce and fire like no other. 🔥
Beyonce is a wannabe and a sellout
@@mcfanrobinhood your hurting Beyoncé feelings STOP. You know she gonna read this STOP
Agreed! That level of class and elegance just doesn’t exist anymore. The last one to attempt it was Mariah Carey when she first came out but eventually her style changed.
You cannot compare I agree. Two amazing stars two different eras and completely different in singing and style.
Diana Ross has an air about her and the way she sings is so effortless. It’s almost like she wears her musical talent. As for her glamour. She is unmatched. She cannot be compared to anyone. The requirements would not meet ever.
Diana had folks, white and black in the rain in Central Park to see her perform lol that's a star 🌟
And they came back the NEXT day for more!
Beyonce could definitely pull that off.
@@ww8407 no one said she couldn’t
And scored many number one hits during a very racist time.
Diana Ross compared to Beyonce is no comparison at all.
Can you be more specific please?
@@ceeceetracey9839 it’s no comparison between Diana far exceeds beyonce
@@GuyVick i feel you but Diana Ross been in the game about 30 years longer than Beyonce.
@@ceeceetracey9839 30 years is a start but definitely longer.
@@ceeceetracey9839 I'm saying Diana Ross is the greatest woman ever if we talking singing, accolades all that. Motown elite Creme-de-la-creme. That Lady sings the blues flick is timeless. But hey I'm not knocking B at all she got the ball in her court right now, she richer than Franklin Mint lol
Absolutely Correct -- There is No Comparison ** Beyonce is the biggest star of her generation -and today is a hip-hop generation (100% fact) - Diana Ross is a trailblazer pioneer and a grassroots cultural Icon. [you cannot compare that to anything that came after]
Your absolutely right bro, Ms. Ross is in a lane of her own and she is doing just fine..🙂
Stephanie Mill is wonderful her accountancy is always so solid and genuine. Ms. Ross was 32 when they did that movie and turned 33 at 0:16 and I do remember when some critics said a 32-year-old was too old to play that role. I love how Diana Ross has never let things like that stop her from doing her art as she sees it. even today. at the end of 2022, Diana Ross 78 sang in the legend slot on Glastonbury's Pyramid stage to one of the biggest audiences ever seen at the festival
Diana is phenomenal and amazing yes beauty and class! Diana is my MUSE for everything in a woman! Love her
AND SHE STOOD ON WHAT SHE SAID LETS NOT CONDEM MS. MILLS
Stephanie and Diana , two greats.
Agreed like you can’t compare the boss to nobody. She may have things in common with others but she is her own package. A true leader and who else is a megastar with 5 amazing kids. She was a working successful mom before that was considered possible.
A nobody Beyoncé sold more records and is richer
@@darrellnichols6548lol this didn’t age well
Stephanie is giving great answers. Let’s stop comparing two different people from two different eras.
It doesn't matter that it's a different era. Beyonce is doing what MJ did, she studied the greats before her and put her own thing together. She's definitely the Diana of our times.
Stephanie Mills, you are correct.
Stephanie got it right. There is no comparison between the two women.
Diana Ross is the foundation upon which these young women build and stand on today. Give her, the proper dues! I remember the time, when the little girls, and yes some women would say, make my hair like Diana Ross. I want it like Diana Ross. No comparison...
The Lemonade Braids are in the hair culture too.
People was wearing those braids before Beyoncé. She has no style or an original idea. Y’all are delusional.
@@KH-hm2cf so who does, hater?
You’re absolutely correct concerning Diana in comparison to Beyoncé. 💯
Diana Ross's Dorothy character was not a portrayal of a young girl but a grown woman.
Exactly why she shouldn’t have been in it.
@@aj25055 it’s an adaptation like they have done. Also it’s Motown production who else is an actor from Motown that could do it?!
@@aj25055 😂
Diana's catalog is far more timeless than anything the other lady will ever accomplish.
Completely agree. Beyoncé makes kleenex music. You use it , throw it away, and other one pops up to be used and thrown away again. Who's going to be listening to "Break My Soul" in 20 years? Heck, even 5 ?
Lots of ppl will it’s a motivational track and a good workout song
@@bookshika I doubt that. Other good workout songs will come and go and "Break my soul" will be long forgotten.
@@christopherdieudonne Already has.
@@user-tu6os3uq6m haha! Exactly! I was going to say that, too.
Diana Ross is a queen… Nobody will ever compare
Name 15 of her songs
Josephine Baker!
Queen of the streets
@@BSTVsports That part lmao
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It was that in that era …Diana Ross was compared to a Sinatra or Betty Davis. They were iconic. American royalty literally . Beyoncé is today just as famous. Has a tremendously large fan base all over the World yet different times . She not held like a head of state like Diana was.
Um are you serious beyonce has performed at the White House lol do you see how other celebrities act over her
@@3raafin3stI love Beyoncé but what Diana achieved in the time period she achieved it is DIFFERENT. One of the reasons we view Beyoncé as big as we do is because she doesn’t have any competition whatsoever. Like back in the days an award show category would have Whitney Houston, Janet Jackson, Madonna all in the same category. There’s no competition like that today
@@ikexbankai I agree to an extent , I just think it’s pretty impressive to see how far Beyoncé has come , she’s been out since the 90’s and to see how she’s still growing as an artist, I think it’s impressive . For this lady to label her as an hip hop artist was shady to me
@@3raafin3st ....lol did you say the White House
@@redmanjohnson4616 yes lol the inauguration! That’s a big deal , for the first black president !
Team Diana Ross and the Supremes All Day
You listen to one Supremes song and then end up listening to their entire discography 😩
Stop comparing Diana Ross to Beyonce. Diana Ross is timeless and didn't need to pop and whine her lady parts on stage. Diana can just stand up and sing without all of the theatrics. Beyonce and her music is bubblegum and NOT timeless. Beyonce's music cannot live on without all the crazy visuals going on on stage. Stop comparing a real legend to Beyonce!
Thank you!
@valerieproctor7366 I so agree with what you are saying. Timeless and classy. Beyonce is good, but I so agree!!
Facts!!💯💯💪🏾
Beyonce has added visuals as her star grew. Beyonce can command arenas with a mic and a dress. She doesn't need that. She just has the money to do the extra stuff.
Diana Ross was the first industry plant and that's because she slept her way up in the game, while Beyonce did it off pure talent and her father..
Diana is on a different level. There are VERY FEW at that level. She’s on a tier and of a time that CREATED the foundation of what we know in regards to musical celebrity. She also did all of what she did in a time when people had to show up. They had to go places and spend real money. That’s often forgotten. Todays “stars” get numbers and accolades from streaming and clicks with very small financial investment from fans. Miss Ross and her contemporaries got people out of their seats and into stores or theaters to spend actual money to enjoy the entertainment. Many of their accomplishments STILL haven’t been beaten. Stephanie is right: not the same.
Beautiful, insightful comment. Thank you!
Diana is the pioneer. She inspired Michael Jackson to aspire to iconic status.
Beyoncé is on the verge of having another sold out world tour where ticket demand was 800% over what they had ticket wise. Her physical albums and merch sales are also very healthy, and she is still one of the few stars who will get fans to spend money and go to her events. She literally had a hotel in Dubai pay her $25 million to show up and perform at the opening. If these aren’t big financial investments I don’t know what are
Yes, very well said also remember Diana Ross did all of this before Instagram, Twitter and all of that social media stuff that helps promote the artist of today...
Stephany Mills🤗
Love her.❤
And shes right😉
First Big Gipp diss Jay Z. Now SMills diss Beyonce? She's right? Name a Beyonce Hip Hop album? Producer in Hip Hop can also do R&B. Mary J Blige is the Queen of Hip Hop Soul(not Beyonce)
@@jaykaynum5569 How did Stephanie diss Beyoncé?? She said she considers her a Diana two different genres of music and never said she was the Queen of Hip Hop just said that’s the kind of artist she considers her as. Stephanie comes from a different generation of musical where it sounds different.
@@stephaniemills_fanpage My uncle is from her generation. He still had Fantasia first CD in his car in 2011. R&B never stopped. 90s fans diss present day R&B. They just stop listening. Nas said Hip Hop is Dead(low-key diss to the artist outside of NY). S.Mill Called Beyonce Hip Hop (low-key diss to Beyonce)
@@jaykaynum5569 How is she dissing her? Stephanie has nothing to diss any artists about. You obviously don’t know her and what she’s about
@@stephaniemills_fanpage I'm going off of the interview (not her work). Chante Moore Mary J Blige Beyonce are R&B artist. S.Mill heard one Beyonce song ft Jay Z and all of the sudden she's a Hip Hop artist?. Video Music Box just played a S.Mill song on a Busta Rhymes beat and it sound better than her original. She should show more love for Hip Hop and she'll know the difference. Patti Labelle ft Big Daddy Kane feels like another One is R&B N Hip Hop together (like it should be). People still in the 70s don't know the difference between the 2
I've never been the biggest Diana Ross fan. But, you have to give credit where it's due. I've always said that Beyonce was a Tina/Diana hybrid. Diana Ross and Tina Turner walked, so Beyonce could run. Anybody with even a little knowledge about music history should know this. And those who deny it are seriously deluding themselves.
I like that comment. They walked so she could run. So true. There's a lot more who walked for her to run.
Aretha don’t forget Aretha….lol
They Paved the way…
Bey-trash box is a hybrid of raunch, and trash. I wouldn’t even de-class Tina Turner by comparison
There is nothing Diana in Beyonce. She’s more Shakira and Tina than Diana. And Shakira will outdance her.
@@globalcitizenn that It….
diana's music is serious, soulful. it has heart. it moves you like art does. beyonce's music is soulless. they're just pop songs. beyonce is an entertainer. diana is a singer.
Girl, some of Diana's music is bubblegum too. It's okay, you don't have to shit on beyonce to prop up the legendary Diana Ross.
@@JETorres88 i know it's okay and you missed the point. diana is a singer who can sing all types of music with soul, beyonce is a performer. she entertains. diana sings. beyonce is a much better dancer than diana and good for her. does that make you happy?
@@squilly00 Beyoncé is also a powerhouse vocalist. She has incredible control of her voice, but sure, she’s purely a performer 🙄
@@squilly00 you obviously don’t listen to bey’s music lol outside of radio pop songs like Single Ladies
@@lilreese240 ii used to workout to her second album. great music for exercising. and, i haven't heard any of her other cds. i don't need to. beyonce is like a trained circus performer. she's all show. there's nothing wrong with that.....good for her.
Indeed Stephanie Indeed.
Diana is the BOSS🐐
I'm sure this portion of the interview will be viral fodder for the bloggers. I get what she's saying. Diana transcends music and is a living legend who has close to 60 years of music history who's music catalog is timeless. Beyonce is an up and Comer compared to Diana.
This is sorta what I wax trying to say to someone. Diana Ross has way more years in the game than Beyonce. But I'm pretty certain by the time Beyonce is close to Ross's age she'll have achieved the same, if not more.
A lot of you all missed his point.. there was no comparison as a “who is better” or “they’re on the same level currently” he was simply stating that just as how Beyoncé is held to a high standard in the music industry and everybody “wants to be like her”, they felt the same about Diana Ross back then.
No ma’am’. Beyoncé has yet to even achieve Rihanna level of achievement. By her. 40’s Mrs Ross was a true icon. People/ drag queens emulated this woman. Ain’t nobody emulating Beyoncé. How can they when she has no originality.
@@KH-hm2cf “Ain’t nobody emulating Beyoncé” Beyoncé is one of the most emulated artists out there 😭 do you even pay attention to today’s drag community
Think about it: If Beyonce can be shown out on stage by a 70-something year old Tina Turner, how can Beyonce's body of work even dare to compare to Diana Ross?
Beyonce, despite her lifelong aspirations of being an entertainer, is NOT in the same league as a Diana Ross, nor for that matter a Tina Turner.
yet
I always viewed Beyonce as the comparative to Tine Turner. From the clothes to the stage performance to the dance moves.
Right! He made me mad when he compared them.
She already surpassed them in a lot of areas already 🤷🏾♂️
You’re old, so ofc you’d say that. Y’all underplaying Beyoncé is so 🌽
Diana is in a class of her own. She's not the best singer, but the music that she chooses fits her voice.
Diana's actually a great singer, when she feels like singing up to her ability.
Check out any concert from her prime years in the 70s and 80s, especially her 1979 Caesars Palace concert.
What???
Diana is a great singer. Her tone is incredible and she’s a real singer. Beyoncé can sing, but nothing special or unique there.
@@Kenyon712which is why Beyoncé winning all those Grammys is a joke. They should be going to REAL MUSICIANS like Alison Krauss.
@@Kenyon712 Kenyon, we are on the same page. I agree Beyonce can sing, but I personally don't care for her tone, nor do I find anything special about Beyonce's voice. I like singers who draw me into a song like Phyllis Hyman, Chaka, Stephanie, Natalie, and so many more.
I’ve paid to see Diana Ross….. I would never pay to see Beyoncé. Not saying Beyoncé isn’t a great entertainer, but Diana Ross can flat out sing. She sang live and sounded just like records she made in the 60’s. Legend!!!
What do you think Beyoncé does
Beyonce is a great performer. One of the greatest concerts I have been to.
So what do y’all get from tearing this woman down unprovoked ☠️
@@r.a.l.p.h nobody tore her down. Everybody is not a great singer that’s it. Nobody would pay to see me sing ……. I’m smart enough to realize that though.
Beyoncé is the highest grossing black touring artist of all time. She has 4 octaves range and sings better than Diana ever did
To be fair, and full disclaimer I was born in the early 90's, so I grew up watching and listening to Beyoncé, whilst Diana came from an earlier time, so most of my knowledge is not first-hand, but through looking back and respecting history.
Ms. Ross in my opinion was a pioneer in many ways. She opened the door for black women like Whitney, Janet & Beyoncé (just to name a few) to have the kind of careers where they could be major recording artists, star in feature films, partner with international brands and have worldwide success. Before Diana Ross that kind of career as a multifaceted performer touching every aspect of the entertainment industry and being considered an "icon," was not seen at that level from black women.
The ladies after did not have to tear down walls for the public to view a black woman in that light as Ms. Ross had been there, done that and left the door ajar for everyone else to come through.
By the time Beyoncé came a long, thanks to Whitney & Janet that was wide open and there was already a blueprint she could follow.
Ms. Mills is correct, there is no need to compare. They are different and should be appreciated for their individual artistry.
Im sensing Stephanie Mills (Love her) definitely has her guard up, in case these Vlad interviewers ask ridiculous questions like this one 😂
I think I get what she's saying. She's from the Diana era and it is probably a different type of fame to Stephanie since she grew up during that time. It's just like how people want to compare every artist to Michael. It's just different for each generation.
no she was very clear what she was saying. and Beyonce will agree she no Diana Ross. LOL see you a youngin. Yall feel the need to try to clarify. no clarification needed, Ms Mills was very clear. Beyonce dont project the image that Ms Ross.
No MJ is the ultimate entertainer, there’s nobody who set more trends in modern music, culture, fashion or music business than MJ. He is the standard. Only Prince rivals in artistry then maybe Shuggie Otis.
@@beyourself2444 🤨 really? Wth you talking about🤷🏾♂️ they are talking about WOMEN!!!!!!
@@cjjonez Shut up. I'm agreeing with her, grandpa.
I get what she's saying about the difference between Diana and Beyonce but at the end of the day it all probably just has to do with it being a different era.
I 100% agree with Stephanie Mills, Beyonce can never be in Ms Ross league. They don't call her Ms Ross for nothing!
Can't compare beyonce to these divas from 1960s are you kidding
Diana didn't need social media
😂you sound dumb
See let me say this comparing is never good and Beyoncé is great. But DIANA WAS AND IS A TRU TRU SUPERSTAR WHETHER U LIKE HER OR NOT. She was doing things that other black female artist couldn’t do or get. She was doing the most elaborate shows and she was the one who started the changing clothes for every set and wearing the furs. She had been on every international magazine that u can think of and in the late 70s getting 300,000 a week for a show. By 1981 she was getting that a show and then by the late 80s double the amount. She was the first to have the biggest recording contract EVER! I have seen her 29 times and I’m telling u she was jus so different and raw. No one is like her NO ONE.
30 years from now I don’t think Beyonce work will carry the same weight as Diana Ross’....elegance at her finest in the perfect era!
Y’all said the same thing about her career but she’s 25 years in selling out stadiums worldwide. Diana’s music doesn’t carry any weight in this generation, I don’t know a single friend who says let’s play Diana’s music anywhere
@@emmaivan8618 Never said she wasn’t good or relevant....what I said was I don’t think her music will stand the test of time like MOST if not ALL of Motown’s catalog, still being played 50 years later.....
@@tthomas4977 how long is the test of time? Say my name came out in 1999, that’s 24 years ago but the song is still played in movies, on Spotify, and is sampled by many new artists. Her first solo single came out 20 years ago, and the song is still played, referenced, and stream like a true classic. Her songs already stood the test of time. Beyoncé’s work is way too impactful to not carry the weight of time
Beyoncé has songs that are being played 20-30 years later that the mainstream knows, loves, and enjoys. The Motown hits that are known and played in the mainstream are the same 15-20 “classics” from a few main groups or singers that are only trotted out during nostalgia parties, family events for the old heads to listen too, or perpetually on the oldies radio station (in a world where radios audience is shrinking massively).
Diana Ross is not a name or artist that people regularly pick out when they wanna go down memory lane songs wise for the mainstream. Compared to some of her musical peers/other divas Diana is seriously lacking in the recognition department. And it’s not just a “oh this generation doesn’t know talent” thing because I will see people listen to her peers readily before they even think of her. How timeless can someone’s catalogue be if it’s been that easily forgotten by the masses?
@@LP-ct9nk i guess we’re gonna have to agree to disagree I’m 57 I do listen to everything that’s out but for my personal preference older music 60’s, 70’s, 80’s is what’s in my rotation. I guess I’m an “ol head” then. I’m sure you’ve heard people say “when music was music” or when “hip hop was hip hop” that’s what I relate to
She is right you cannot compare the two.
Diana is a huge star actress singer glitter glamour fashion d designer she always seeks perfection in whatever she did. No comparison Diana came up when it was harder for Black women to gain stardom. I also see Beyonce as hope hop and there is nothing wrong with that. Diana Ross can belt out a song like many can't do.
Stephanie hit the nail on the head. Do eloquently stated💯💯🙌🏾🙌🏾
Well it's the truth and sometimes the truth hurts!
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Diana was there when our community was still trying to find our lane. Very disrespectful to even think of putting Beyonce in the same anything with Diana Ross
What was the interviewer thinking? That was like a kid question.
Amen amen amen amen!!!! You said it spot on!!!!
Love Stephanie right on 🎯 Diana is Classy..
NY dudes love to hear themselves talk shut up Prez!!!
He speaks very unarticulated
@@valerieproctor7366 Thats cool but let the guest talk. 🤷🏿♂️
You're 100% Correct Stephanie!!
I completely agree. The women of that era were an entirely different level of class/elegance and grace. The closest comparison in our generation would be…Toni Braxton.
No…whitney
Hmmmmm...Toni has delivered some great songs, but is she the closet in our generation
@@mariarodgers5387 Whitney had the voice and the big machine behind her.
If Stephanie Mills is catching heat for saying Beyoncé cannot or should not be compared to Diana Ross she is 100% correct in her assessment. There is no comparison between the two...not in any way. Diana Ross is music LEGEND and ROYALTY. Her extraordinary charm, talent, steadfastness and perseverance oozes out of every pore and the niche she carved out for herself, with the help of Berry Gordy and many more still stands today as the standard those in the business strive to attain. The acting ability of Ms. Ross outshines Beyoncé by several miles. I'm sure Beyoncé would have been pleased to be the "next" Diana Ross but in the end she never got there. She chose to go another way and I believe it harmed her overall career. I cannot say Beyoncé has no talent for she does however, her shows are smoke and mirrors...while the performances of Diana Ross are one woman with a wonderful voice and putting her music across to every race, creed and ethnicity imaginable. That and a microphone is all she needs. Yes, she is glamorous and also wraps herself in it but that magic "IT" is always there and knows no bounds. The glamour is a bonus but it comes down to the voice, the presentation and a delightful personality that holds her audiences in thrall. Ms. Ross has that in abundance! Yes, it is another time and place however, the choices one makes dictate the future you will have. Beyoncé cannot EVER hope to fill those shoes and I doubt she will ever fulfill the dreams she once had. By the way Stephanie..I still have & play your debut album!
You can't raise copycats over originals.
Say that again!
fast forward to 09/04/2023, diana sang happy birthday to beyonce on stage at her concert. STAY MAD lol.
I get what she is saying...yes diana ross & beyonce are 2 totally different lanes...u cant compare them
She never heard a Beyonce record I bet
@@jaykaynum5569 She has probably heard the ones with the f-word in them and that's why she's calling her hip hop.
And let’s not act like Beyoncé was not studying tapes of Diana Ross & The Supremes during her training days. That’s because Diana is a blueprint. Every company was trying to package and model their female acts like a Diana Ross+ … Beyoncé is great… but Diana Ross constantly and persistently sends more positive vibes through my chakras
Not every company modeled their female singers after Diana though many singers were influenced by Diana. Many companies kept looking for next Aretha as far as voices.
@@glenrushing5361 Who said they didn’t want the Aretha’s they were looking for to be modeled like a Diana Ross? That’s how we got a Whitney and so on type thing. The glamour, the stage presence, the consistency with great singing. The transition into movies! Yes…. so many stand on Diana Ross shoulders. Something I’m sure she didn’t exactly foresee as she was just trying to be her own success. I’m going to add Dionne Warwick in there because she did break down doors as well. But Diana was opening another kind of door all together.
@@AlkalineInsides Clive Davis mentioned Whitney had the Elegance of Lena Horne and The Voice of Aretha...let's keep it real. On addition, Chaka, Natalie, and more were strongly influenced by Aretha. Diana is awesome, but let's keep the facts straight. And yes, Dionne was the Pop Princess back in her day
@@glenrushing5361 Clive has said he always tried to bottle the appeal of what Diana Ross gave. Cut it out and dive deeper. You keep trying to diminish any impact Diana Ross has had and it’s just unrealistic.
I am not even thinking about Beyonce. I am not a fan though I would say Beyonce is also strongly influenced from Tina Turner.
You really can't compare Beyonce and Diana Ross. Their only connection is that they both came from successful girl groups and went on to have successful solo careers. They are not the same type of performers. But I don't see Beyonce as hip hop. I mean, she always been connected to the hip hop world but she is not hip hop. Beyonce has tapped into almost every musical genre.
Aptly captioned 👍🏼👌🏽
Agree with most of what you said here except the last part about Bey tapping into almost every musical genre. Her music is completely linear in terms of genre - it’s a meld of r&b and pop, now with a sprinkle of hip hop, nothing more. Not jazz, not county, not reggae, not classical, not rock, not metal, etc.
@@Thigster you haven’t heard Lemonade then. That album alone has R&B, Alternative, Country, Ballad, and Rock.
@@starrysigh Actually Ive heard all of her albums and while there may be elements of certain sounds in some of those songs, that hardly qualifies as “tapping into a genre”. So I disagree. Also, I am a music major so my assessment on the matter may be a bit more nuanced than most.
@@starrysigh PS. A “ballad” is a type of musical composition, not a genre.
Diana was 33 filming The Wiz ! and what does age have to do with finding self discovery. The story of Dorothy can be told through the eyes of many different ages.
DIANA ROSS IS THE BLUEPRINT 💯💯
Mills and Baker were some bad girls that could take your soul when they sang
You've seen the live video of them together, yes? So good!!!
They don’t have to sing about breaking their soul….. neither😂
Can't compare a living legend Diana to anyone, except Dionne Warrick due to different generation. Breyonce sounds like she was saying a few times is present legendary status.
Agreed💯 Beyoncé’s name shouldn’t be mentioned at all in comparison to Diana Ross
Two royal black beautiful queens that are legendary in their own unique way. Can’t take away from either of them … just two different generations.
How is Beyoncé legendary? Her whole image is Tina Turner, Dianna Ross and Michael Jackson. Not a legendary album, song, fashion business or movie to her name. Y’all love mediocrity.
@@KH-hm2cf so because her dance moves are inspired by people before her it takes away from her legendary status? Yet Michael Jackson took moves from James brown. Tina turner was influenced by Mahalia Jackson. Etc. Beyoncé songs doesn’t sound like Michael, Tina or Diana Ross.
Whitney Houston was the only Diva that came the closest to the level of class and elegance as Diana Ross. When Whitney first debuted in 1985 and till her Bodyguard fame in the early ‘90s people at that time were saying Whitney was the “new Diana Ross”.
Diana made it with her clothes on..
I hope you’re a woman saying this 😂
I agree… Diana came up in a very different time… cannot compare the two at all
She is telling the truth ! Bey is beautiful women don’t get me wrong but even in her newest song she is talking about her private parts being pink - that’s definitely hip-hop ! Diana would NEVAAA!
Thank you Stephanie Mills!!!!!!
Diana Ross created what we call pop diva all by herself. Before her rock and roll singers didn't dress like glamorous movie stars from the 1930s...they didn't have lavish shows and multi costume changes....Beyonce, Cher and all the rest drive in the lane of pop diva that Diana Ross created.
Exactly!
There was a great show on Vh1 at one point in time called “Divas” even Mariah humbled herself to Diana Ross on that episode. She’s still The Boss but nothing against Bey. They’re both iconic
Well cher came out the same time Diana did
@@devanshepard9118 No Cher didn't come out the same time that Diana Ross and The Supremes came out. They came out in the 60's, and Cher came out in the mid seventies with her ex-husband, Sonny. The Supremes had been performing on a show that was called The Ed Sullivan show, in the sixties long before The Sonny & Cher Show. The Supremes performed on The Sonny & Cher Show.
@@kathystuvaints9698 cher first song was from 1963 so i stand by what i said
I agree with her. And I like Beyoncé, but these last few albums have me confused too. Especially her last one, I just don’t like it🤷🏾♀️
Beyonce is no way a Diana Ross, more a Tina Turner. Can't imagine Diana ever singing "I don't think you're ready for this jelly" while twerking. No way, no how
I don’t think you’re ready for this jelly is a destiny child’s song. Beyoncé is the epitome of a artist that does everything. She’s fierce but also classy and elegant, she knows when and when not to do things like that. Diana was all class but Beyoncé can do EVERYTHING
I totally agree. I see why she says that!!
Can't compare the two 🤷🏾♂️ Diana Ross recorded her music in front of a 10 piece band while Beyonce goes in a booth an let's the computer/engineer do the rest .....imagine having to sing a song 50x before you get it right
Exactly
Beyoncé, despite how the media hypes her up to be this perfect goddess with a flawless, groundbreaking body of work (none of which is true), is no Diana Ross.
Stephanie MIlls SAVED the Chaka Khan Versus 100%. real class act woman.
She did .., a true sister ,friend to the end ..God Bless her beautiful heart 😍
Sure did. I wonder if he’s gonna ask her about that cause…lawd. Chaka is my favorite of all time but damn. Ain’t no way she should have went on with that show in the shape she was in.
Yes! Stephanie certainly did save Chaka (my favorite female singer) during the Verzuz...and she NEVER made a negative comment about her. No shade at all. That's because she is a class act.
Diana Ross/Aretha Franklin/Stephanie Mills/Donna Summer/Tina Turner/Patti Labelle/ Whitney Houston/ALLLLLLL paved the way for Bey🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Beyoncé is a great talent Miss Diana Ross is incomparable plus she is never vulgar. She does not use the N-word and hip-hop is a vulgar art form.
It's Ms not miss. Get it right ✅️
Yep. Ms. Ross never used the f-word in her music like Beyonce does. Their music should never be compared.
Diana Ross is a gifted actress as well, can't say the same about Beyonce.. However, both women are very talented and different.
I do agree with Miss Mills on Beyonce being Hip Hop because Bey will get gutter in her music..
😂 beyonce definitely needs some acting lessons. Beyonce definitely has a hip hop edge to her. In the same breath, even in her prime Diana wouldn't have been able to put on the type of high energy/high power show as Beyonce. Beyonce is a full fledged stage performer.
@@ceeceetracey9839
I agree... But booty shaking, dancing like a cheerleader was never Diana Ross' thing..
Whats gonna happen when Beyonce can no longer shake her ass on stage? The same with J-Lo and all the other chicks that incorporate dance into their performances..
Beyonce can definitely stand center stage and just sing, but are you gonna pay $500 for that?
@@mamadouaziza2536 what?? What did Diana Ross (just Sing).
@@ZAYA.21
What are u talking about?
@@mamadouaziza2536 I'm not paying $500 to see either one of them. They aren't my favorites, though both of them have songs and qualities I like. However, Beyonce's whole show isnt centered around dancing or booty shaking. She has some great music and she can sing and her fans ADORE her. When she stops doing all of the "cheerleading" 😄I think she'll still be able to pull in a crowd and big bucks.
Stephanie Mills was trying to offer him some better sense but he refused it.
Beyonce doesn't sing good enough to be compared to Diana Ross
Ok😂
If you aren’t familiar with Diana’s works music movies etc . You’ll never understand Stephanie’s point . I agree with her!
I agree with Stephanie. Granted Beyonce has her fans but not everyone loves Beyonce. Those Beyonce fans and the Taylor Swift fans and the megan-thee-stallion fans they all loved Diana Ross. I'm sorry but Beyonce is not even the same class as Diana Ross for that reason alone. Everyone loved Diana not everyone loves Beyonce
Not everyone loved Diana Ross
I agree 100% with Stephanie's comparison of Diana & Beyonce. Even in what they sing and the way they dress.
I love you Stephanie, but nahh I don't think Bey is considered hip hop, r&b and pop maybe but not hip hop. She has spit a few verses but I still wouldn't consider her hip hop.
And in regards to it being no comparison I see both sides
It was a lot harder in the days for Diana Ross, The Supremes all the Black girl groups. Please stop the comparison thing. They worked hard, couldn’t even sing on a record until the voice was solidly there unlike today. The words in songs were soft innuendo today blatant. Different times, different everything. Those ladies and all that talent in those days should never be placed in today’s talent. Although many are still working because they didn’t make the big bucks like today and didn’t understand what they were signing away. Nope no comparison original elegance, class, royalty all those ladies including Stephanie Mills. Nothing given, just hard work underpaid!! Let’s not even talk about the racism!
I'm just waiting for the 1st Beyonce fanboy or Bey Hive member to show their anger now. 👀🤣👀
Hahahaha! Let them eat Cake!
@@valerieproctor7366 lol