R.C. Sproul Vs. Greg Bahnsen Debate on Apologetic Methodology Part 1

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  • R.C. Sproul Vs. Greg Bahnsen Debate on Apologetic Methodology Part 1
    Greg Bahnsen and R.C. Sproul Debate Apologetic Methodology
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  • @joshhigdon4951
    @joshhigdon4951 Рік тому +13

    Awesome! Sproul is and may always be my favorite theologian of all time, but his apologetic methodology is weak when compared to Bahnsen. Sproul admired Aquinas to a fault. And it showed in his classical defense of God.

    • @gfbc1689
      @gfbc1689  Рік тому +4

      Semper Reformanda

    • @joshhigdon4951
      @joshhigdon4951 Рік тому +3

      ​@@gfbc1689 semper reformanda brother!

    • @blackpatriot3
      @blackpatriot3 6 місяців тому

      And the fact that presup is not logical and cannot be adjudicated is more of a critical thinking issue .

    • @joshhigdon4951
      @joshhigdon4951 6 місяців тому

      @blackpatriot3 I'd challenge you on that. As I learned the Scripture from my dad, so to shall I bestow the gift of knowledge to you.

  • @gkolkman4
    @gkolkman4 Рік тому +3

    I remember listening to this in 1996 ish on cassette tape. Thank you for posting

  • @thevoiceofprophecytoday
    @thevoiceofprophecytoday Рік тому +2

    Great Job of Christian Growth. God bless 🙌 you for the upload

  • @dabish2888
    @dabish2888 Рік тому

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    • @joshhigdon4951
      @joshhigdon4951 Рік тому +3

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    • @dabish2888
      @dabish2888 7 місяців тому

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  • @EleazarDuprees
    @EleazarDuprees Рік тому +5

    Evidence must be evaluated by presuppositions. To put the evidential approach over against presupp is to 1. misunderstand the distinction. 2. To put logic & science as independent of God (bad idea). 3. leaves with probability only, where presupp leaves apodictic certainty. 4. (etc...) Sproul should have learned presuppositional apologetics from Bahnsen and utilized it.

    • @fndrr42
      @fndrr42 Рік тому +1

      Sproul is much more versed in the philosophy and simply recognizes the extremely obvious mistakes Bahnsen is making. It’s a flawed method and embraces post modern idealism

    • @EleazarDuprees
      @EleazarDuprees Рік тому +2

      @@fndrr42 Bahnsen had a Ph.D in Philosophy and teaches a history of Western Philosophy and Logic courses. The fact is Bahnsen has a keener understanding on these disciplines than Sproul. Sproul thinks presupp commits the simple circular fallacy because he doesn't understand evaluating worldviews is circular by necessity.

    • @fndrr42
      @fndrr42 Рік тому

      @@EleazarDuprees - he certainly does, he just thinks reality is not worldview dependent and to suggest it is requires an acceptance of subjectivism

    • @EleazarDuprees
      @EleazarDuprees Рік тому +3

      @@fndrr42 By definition your worldview includes all your experience, all metaphysics and all possibility. Reality might simply be synonymous with worldview. So, we might be talking past each other at this point. The scriptures provide the explanation of how sense perception is possible (God puts wisdom in the inward parts, reveals himself through creation). Everyone uses sense perception and rationality but only Christianity can explain how. In short- the fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge.

    • @fndrr42
      @fndrr42 Рік тому

      @@EleazarDuprees here is where the difference is. I argue there is an objective reality that is accessible and meaningful independent of preconceived notions or worldview lenses