@@KoachKrab127 Hi Koach, I have actually been streaming on Twitch for a few years. However I stopped streaming retro and challenge runs after having learned that using a RCA to HDMI converter, then plugging that into the El Gato HD60, was causing some input delay. Making some of the impossible challenges I was doing, even harder unbeknownst to me. I am amazed I was able to do them all, but vowed to never do any of that again unless there was a way to do it differently than I had been. So that's why I reacted so wildly to your video. everyone was suggesting using a framemeister, but that doesnt seem to fix the delay issue. Maybe I'm nuts, who knows. What is your channel? I'd love to see it.
My twitch name is the same as my youtube name. I stream about 3-4 nights a week, usually starting around 11pm ET. Yup, there's no delay on the CRT-TV when you do it the way my video shows. But there is a slight delay through the GV-USB2 capture card, onto your computer, but it's much less than the El Gato. The GV-USB2 delay is only about 0.03 seconds, which is noticeable, but nowhere close to as noticeable as the 1.1 second delay of the El Gato. You can sync your voice and webcam on your stream in the OBS settings, and I cover that in one of the other videos in this tutorial.
@@KoachKrab127 Perfect, I will reach out to you there. I am totally okay with there being a delay from the cap card to the pc lol. It was from playing and not realizing that was the reason why, say for instance, the Dark Sims in Perfect Dark's challenge 30, where impossible to hit, or why playing sin and punishment with turbo frameskip and hard modes all enabled really began to feel impossible. It's like a huge burden has been lifted lol! ten billion thank yous.
You're welcome, and I know what you mean. I have trouble beating games on the NES and SNES Classic, because there is about a half second delay, I guess due to the HDMI. I can't beat Punch-Out on the NES Classic because of the delay, and that game is automatic to me on the retro console.
Hey thank you so much for these videos, they were on my bookmarks since 2018 and I finally decided to plug it all recently and it was so simple. Cheers!
Thank you so much for the tutorial. I picked up this IO Data GV-USB2 capture device for $1 from my local flea market, with all of its stuff in its box. Will definitely get into streaming once I grab a splitter.
Thank you so much for this video!!!! I had to actually draw out what you were explaining because this really blew my tiny mind but I got there in the end so thank you!!!
Can I use a 6 male to 3 female rca splitter instead of the 6 female to 3 male rca splitter and plug the splitter straight into the tv and capture card? If you do it that way you don’t need to use the 3 male to 3 male cord. I haven’t seen any videos or forums that tell you to use the method I stated so I am just curious on why you do it that way. Is there some kind of reason or was it just overlooked?
Thanks this is the guide I needed! Does using splitters result in a loss of video quality? Someone online said to use a distribution amplifier. I’m clueless about this sort of thing. Do you think that would work?
Using the 6 female 3 male splitter can decrease the video quality that you get on your tube TV. It would make my screen darker. I now have a new tube TV, though, and it has a composite output as well. So I plug the capture card into the out composite from the TV to the computer. Using the splitter, I did not notice the quality decreasing on the stream from the computer, though. So your viewers will probably not lose any video quality.
Yes, there is slight lag, but it's only about 1 tenth of a second with this capture card. That's why I simultaneously play on a TV, so I don't have to deal with the lag.
@@captainrobots1 Yes, there is also a slight delay on modern TVs as well, even if you use the AV cables. It's best to find a good old CRT TV with an original console.
KoachKrab I have been wanting to stream some really old systems such as Atari 2600, 5200, Intellivision, Colecovision, and Magnavox Odyssey 2 which I believe all use the RF Switch to send audio and video signals together. Is there anyway to stream to UA-cam or Twitch? I've tried to figure it out and there must be a way but if there is I haven't figured it out yet. Thanks
Wow finally a great and helpful video. Very consise, thanks man great work. Do you know if this would work with a Razer Ripsaw? What type of cord would I need for that, if I use S Video? If you know, much much appreciated. Thanks again!
Marshall Hill - It doesn’t look like retro works with the razor ripsaw. Even if it does, you’d have to watch a different video to see what OBS settings you’d need, as they would be pretty different as well. The GV-USB2 capture card I use in this video is only $35.
I'm trying to find a way, to send my laptop display to the CRT while simultaneously recording the CRT live. I don't know what kind of setup I need to do that sort of thing.
Nice video indeed. If you didn't want to use a TV, couldn't you just go directly from the console to the PC via the capture device? Or would that have way too much input lag? Thanks
Thanks for the clear tutorial. Would it be possible to just plug the composite into the tv and the s video into the gv usb instead of using the splitters?
Hello, i use this method. Do you have color issue on your crt tv ? Because when i plug/unplug splitter cable, the quality of image is different. I want to fix it
Yes, I also have noticed that the colors change a little bit when I use the splitter cable. I would suggest buying a CRT video monitor, but those can be very expensive.
@KoachKrab127 First off thank you so much for making the video! I have a question, I am having a difficult time sourcing quality 6 Female 3 Male RCA Splitter. Is there any other options instead of this particular combo? I don't want to buy low quality cords and have audio or video issues. I also want the minimum amount of lag as I will be streaming SNes to Twitch.
I'm not sure how else to do it besides using the 6F 3M RCS splitter, but using the GV-USB2 causes the least amount of lag that I have experienced, using a capture card. I'm glad the video has been helpful for you. Thanks for watching!
@@KoachKrab127 is this gonna work for my GameCube and wii and PSP ps2 original xbox and xbox one S and Xbox one X Regular Xbox one and xbox series x and PS5 to Surround sound system receiver with Surround sound speakers?.
@@izehumaheyiba2182 This method will work for anything using component cables - yellow, white, and red cords. It'll definitely work with Gamecube, Wii, PS2, and original XBox. If the other systems that you have, have component cables, then they will work too. If your systems only work with HDMI cords, then you need an HDMI capture card.
Will the GV-USB2 Capture Card work on a macbook pro? I've heard PC's are the ideal go to but I'm trying to keep things cost friendly and work with what I've got for now. Thanks
@@KoachKrab127 thanks for the reply, I've done more looking and got what I think should work but the setup you laid out helped out a bunch nonetheless.
Thanks for the detailed tutorial! I have noticed that the video/sound of the console on my TV seem to be lower quality when I am using the splitter. When I unplug the RCA cables that are going to the capture card, the video and audio quality return. Is this to be expected, or could this be the result of a bad splitter? I am hesitant to purchase another if this is just the nature of the beast.
Having 2 AV ports means that you can hook up multiple devices to the TV. Your TV will have 2 channels for each port, most likely called "Line 1" and "Line 2" or "Video 1" and "Video 2." (Usually, line 1 is the back port, and line 2 is the front port). You know how modern TVs usually have more than 1 HDMI input? This is the same idea. So you could plug your Nintendo into the front of the TV, and you could plug in a DVD player into the back of the TV. Make sense?
Just trying to draw this up on paper. Since you have a 3M that splits into 6F and you are plugin in your console (the one that is sending the signal) to 1part of the split (3F), dosent this mean your sending the signal to the 3M that is conected to the TV. Does the signal then turn at the end of the 3M to send it back to the other split (remaning 3F). Feels like the natrual thing would be to split the signal from the console into TV and Capture card. Thanks for a very educational video! :)
I know this says retro but does this work on Wii? I've been spending the past couple days scouring the internet for videos on the subject and this is the closest I've found. Also can i use Chrome OS instead of Windows? I'm trying not to sound needy
Sam Swire - Yes, you can. However, there will be a slight input delay. You’ll push the “a” button and then Mario will jump about 1 tenth of a second later. It’s not much delay, but it’s noticeable.
Yes it is. So, you would plug the coaxial cable from the console to the TV. Then you would use the composite plug from the console, to the capture card, to the computer.
@@KoachKrab127 After I posted my comment I decided to see if I had an RF modulator and I found one. I think this will solve my problems. I greatly appreciate your response, I was getting very frustrated trying to figure something out lol. Also, in case my solution doesn't work out, what type of plug would I need since my SNES Mini doesn't have a coaxial input? Sorry if I sound dumb, I'm not good at this kind of stuff.
For the SNES mini, you'd need a different capture card since it's an HDMI cable. El Gato is a good capture card for HDMI cables, but it is very expensive, about $150.
@@KoachKrab127 So the capture card in your video won't work with the SNES mini? Just making sure I'm on the same page. I looked up the El Gato capture cards and it seems you need an HDMI port on your TV, is this true or is there a way around that? Sorry for all the questions I just want to make sure I buy the right things.
That's correct, the GV-USB2 would not work with the SNES mini, because the SNES mini only uses an HDMI cable. It doesn't use composite cables. You would have to get a capture card like the El Gato. I actually first started streaming with the El Gato, but then I learned about the GV-USB2 and how it's much better for retro consoles.
So, i had to find this video again, and here was this comment i left to my future self, because i knew i was going to forget how to hook up the y-splitter cables correctly. nosce te ipsum or temet nosce
my god finally someone that actually helps. the exact video i was looking for, thanks alot man i really appreciate this.
This is the only video that I have found about real retro console capture methods, thanks a lot =)
Thank you SO MUCH. You literally are the only source that spells this out in detail. It’s amazing. Thanks again.
You're welcome! I hope the rest of the videos in this tutorial are just as clear. Good luck starting your stream. Contact me on Twitch when you do.
@@KoachKrab127 Hi Koach, I have actually been streaming on Twitch for a few years. However I stopped streaming retro and challenge runs after having learned that using a RCA to HDMI converter, then plugging that into the El Gato HD60, was causing some input delay. Making some of the impossible challenges I was doing, even harder unbeknownst to me. I am amazed I was able to do them all, but vowed to never do any of that again unless there was a way to do it differently than I had been. So that's why I reacted so wildly to your video. everyone was suggesting using a framemeister, but that doesnt seem to fix the delay issue. Maybe I'm nuts, who knows.
What is your channel? I'd love to see it.
My twitch name is the same as my youtube name. I stream about 3-4 nights a week, usually starting around 11pm ET. Yup, there's no delay on the CRT-TV when you do it the way my video shows. But there is a slight delay through the GV-USB2 capture card, onto your computer, but it's much less than the El Gato. The GV-USB2 delay is only about 0.03 seconds, which is noticeable, but nowhere close to as noticeable as the 1.1 second delay of the El Gato. You can sync your voice and webcam on your stream in the OBS settings, and I cover that in one of the other videos in this tutorial.
@@KoachKrab127 Perfect, I will reach out to you there. I am totally okay with there being a delay from the cap card to the pc lol. It was from playing and not realizing that was the reason why, say for instance, the Dark Sims in Perfect Dark's challenge 30, where impossible to hit, or why playing sin and punishment with turbo frameskip and hard modes all enabled really began to feel impossible. It's like a huge burden has been lifted lol! ten billion thank yous.
You're welcome, and I know what you mean. I have trouble beating games on the NES and SNES Classic, because there is about a half second delay, I guess due to the HDMI. I can't beat Punch-Out on the NES Classic because of the delay, and that game is automatic to me on the retro console.
Excellent video!
Dude thank you so much. In every other video they just talk and talk and talk but no one's actually showing me how to link anything
You sound like you know what you are talking about. And you DO know what you are talking about. Appreciate your help a lot.
this is super helpful
Hey thank you so much for these videos, they were on my bookmarks since 2018 and I finally decided to plug it all recently and it was so simple. Cheers!
This was very easy to follow, thank you!
Thank you so much for the tutorial. I picked up this IO Data GV-USB2 capture device for $1 from my local flea market, with all of its stuff in its box. Will definitely get into streaming once I grab a splitter.
THANK YOU SIR, this video was super helpful!
Best tutorial out there
Thank you so much for this video!!!! I had to actually draw out what you were explaining because this really blew my tiny mind but I got there in the end so thank you!!!
Thank you! Did you see part 2? Part 2 shows a drawing/diagram of the whole layout.
@@KoachKrab127 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ noooo I didn't get that far 😂 but I'll check it out now and compare what I've got and see if I'm on track !
great video dude thanks for the help!
Thank you so much!
Very useful video, thank you pal.
Thank you my friend! This video really helped me a lot with information and to save money from capture card.
Im stupid, I just plugged a male into the capture card and expected it to work. Didn't know I needed splitters and stuff, thanks!
This is an awesome tutorial
Can I use a 6 male to 3 female rca splitter instead of the 6 female to 3 male rca splitter and plug the splitter straight into the tv and capture card? If you do it that way you don’t need to use the 3 male to 3 male cord. I haven’t seen any videos or forums that tell you to use the method I stated so I am just curious on why you do it that way. Is there some kind of reason or was it just overlooked?
Hmm...you might be able to do it that way. Have you tried it? Did it work?
Im trying to do the exact same thing. Were you able to test it?
thank you so much for your tutorial!
You're welcome!
thank you , great job on the video
big like, thank u!
Thank you!!!
Thanks this is the guide I needed! Does using splitters result in a loss of video quality? Someone online said to use a distribution amplifier. I’m clueless about this sort of thing. Do you think that would work?
Using the 6 female 3 male splitter can decrease the video quality that you get on your tube TV. It would make my screen darker. I now have a new tube TV, though, and it has a composite output as well. So I plug the capture card into the out composite from the TV to the computer.
Using the splitter, I did not notice the quality decreasing on the stream from the computer, though. So your viewers will probably not lose any video quality.
awesome video very helpful. I have one question, do you have lag on your PC when stream the game ? like a 1sec or 2 maybe delay ?
Yes, there is slight lag, but it's only about 1 tenth of a second with this capture card. That's why I simultaneously play on a TV, so I don't have to deal with the lag.
@@KoachKrab127 you don't get lag on crts but do on modern TVs.
@@captainrobots1 Yes, there is also a slight delay on modern TVs as well, even if you use the AV cables. It's best to find a good old CRT TV with an original console.
KoachKrab I have been wanting to stream some really old systems such as Atari 2600, 5200, Intellivision, Colecovision, and Magnavox Odyssey 2 which I believe all use the RF Switch to send audio and video signals together. Is there anyway to stream to UA-cam or Twitch? I've tried to figure it out and there must be a way but if there is I haven't figured it out yet. Thanks
THANK YOU SO MUCH THIS VIDEO IS SO HELPFUL!! works on N64 I assume??
mimiga - Yes, it works on N64. I’m glad the video was helpful for you!
KoachKrab127 awesome, thanks :))
Wow finally a great and helpful video. Very consise, thanks man great work.
Do you know if this would work with a Razer Ripsaw? What type of cord would I need for that, if I use S Video? If you know, much much appreciated. Thanks again!
Marshall Hill - It doesn’t look like retro works with the razor ripsaw. Even if it does, you’d have to watch a different video to see what OBS settings you’d need, as they would be pretty different as well. The GV-USB2 capture card I use in this video is only $35.
I'm trying to find a way, to send my laptop display to the CRT while simultaneously recording the CRT live.
I don't know what kind of setup I need to do that sort of thing.
Nice video indeed. If you didn't want to use a TV, couldn't you just go directly from the console to the PC via the capture device? Or would that have way too much input lag? Thanks
It just straight up doesn't work, don't know why it woukdnt
I just wonder will your capture card that you used in this video work for the GameCube?
Yes, it will.
@@KoachKrab127 what is your favorite Nintendo Console
Thanks for the clear tutorial. Would it be possible to just plug the composite into the tv and the s video into the gv usb instead of using the splitters?
Hello, i use this method. Do you have color issue on your crt tv ? Because when i plug/unplug splitter cable, the quality of image is different. I want to fix it
Yes, I also have noticed that the colors change a little bit when I use the splitter cable. I would suggest buying a CRT video monitor, but those can be very expensive.
@@KoachKrab127 I didn't know that kind of monitor exist, i will check it !
@KoachKrab127 First off thank you so much for making the video! I have a question, I am having a difficult time sourcing quality 6 Female 3 Male RCA Splitter. Is there any other options instead of this particular combo? I don't want to buy low quality cords and have audio or video issues. I also want the minimum amount of lag as I will be streaming SNes to Twitch.
I'm not sure how else to do it besides using the 6F 3M RCS splitter, but using the GV-USB2 causes the least amount of lag that I have experienced, using a capture card. I'm glad the video has been helpful for you. Thanks for watching!
@@KoachKrab127 Okay thank you so much!! And yes the video was VERY helpful! As was the description to check as I purchased the proper cords. Thank you
@@KoachKrab127 is this gonna work for my GameCube and wii and PSP ps2 original xbox and xbox one S and Xbox one X Regular Xbox one and xbox series x and PS5 to Surround sound system receiver with Surround sound speakers?.
@@izehumaheyiba2182 This method will work for anything using component cables - yellow, white, and red cords. It'll definitely work with Gamecube, Wii, PS2, and original XBox. If the other systems that you have, have component cables, then they will work too. If your systems only work with HDMI cords, then you need an HDMI capture card.
Will the GV-USB2 Capture Card work on a macbook pro? I've heard PC's are the ideal go to but I'm trying to keep things cost friendly and work with what I've got for now. Thanks
I am not sure how to stream on a Mac. I know it's very different. Sorry.
@@KoachKrab127 thanks for the reply, I've done more looking and got what I think should work but the setup you laid out helped out a bunch nonetheless.
Does this work with any game capture software such as dazzle 100? Or do you recommend getting the usb one?
I've never used Dazzle 100, so I'm not sure if it works with that software.
Thanks for the detailed tutorial! I have noticed that the video/sound of the console on my TV seem to be lower quality when I am using the splitter. When I unplug the RCA cables that are going to the capture card, the video and audio quality return. Is this to be expected, or could this be the result of a bad splitter? I am hesitant to purchase another if this is just the nature of the beast.
Have the same problem. TV quality gets worse and darker
Hey, I have a TV with double yellow and white AV ports, on front and back.
What should I do in this case? Buy two splitter only?
Having 2 AV ports means that you can hook up multiple devices to the TV. Your TV will have 2 channels for each port, most likely called "Line 1" and "Line 2" or "Video 1" and "Video 2." (Usually, line 1 is the back port, and line 2 is the front port). You know how modern TVs usually have more than 1 HDMI input? This is the same idea. So you could plug your Nintendo into the front of the TV, and you could plug in a DVD player into the back of the TV. Make sense?
@@KoachKrab127my TV is a Samsung Pro Vision 21'' and I got no second video channel other than video.
I just wonder will the capture card that you used in this video work for the Xbox 360?
Yes. It should.
@@KoachKrab127 will it work for the Nintendo DS?
@@jordanjones5751 I don't think so. I wouldn't know how with the DS.
@@KoachKrab127 do you have a DS?
@@KoachKrab127 will your capture card work for the PS3?
thank you
I just wonder will the capture card that you used work for an iPad?
Hmm, I don’t see how it would.
@@KoachKrab127 do you have an iPad?
Just trying to draw this up on paper.
Since you have a 3M that splits into 6F and you are plugin in your console (the one that is sending the signal) to 1part of the split (3F), dosent this mean your sending the signal to the 3M that is conected to the TV. Does the signal then turn at the end of the 3M to send it back to the other split (remaning 3F).
Feels like the natrual thing would be to split the signal from the console into TV and Capture card.
Thanks for a very educational video! :)
yeaydee - My part 2 video has it drawn up on paper, actually! :)
@@KoachKrab127 yes ive seen it. It still have the signal turning at the tv. Since the M are the one to split into 2F
I know this says retro but does this work on Wii? I've been spending the past couple days scouring the internet for videos on the subject and this is the closest I've found. Also can i use Chrome OS instead of Windows? I'm trying not to sound needy
This method will work on Wii. I don't know about Chrome OS. You can try.
@@KoachKrab127 Ok. Thanks.
This is a great tutorial I wonder will those cords work for the Wii?
Yes, they will!
@@KoachKrab127 will they work for the Wii U or Switch?
@@jordanjones5751 No, this capture card will not work for Wii U or Switch.
@@KoachKrab127 I just wonder do you have a Wii U?
I have a question. If i do not have a cd slot for my labtop... Can i still download the capture the card?
Chico - Yes. You do not need to use the CD. The links I provide in the description of the tutorial tell you how to get the appropriate software.
What if iam playing on an HD tv what cables would i need? Cant afford an elgato right now my tv has av composite
If your HD tv has composite input, the GV-USB2 capture card should work on it.
Could you possibly skip the TV piece and play just using your capture card on the computer straight from the SNES?
Sam Swire - Yes, you can. However, there will be a slight input delay. You’ll push the “a” button and then Mario will jump about 1 tenth of a second later. It’s not much delay, but it’s noticeable.
Will this work with component?
You’d have to get a different capture card.
Is it possible to stream on a Coaxial cable only TV? If so how would I do that? Looking forward to your response.
Yes it is. So, you would plug the coaxial cable from the console to the TV. Then you would use the composite plug from the console, to the capture card, to the computer.
@@KoachKrab127 After I posted my comment I decided to see if I had an RF modulator and I found one. I think this will solve my problems.
I greatly appreciate your response, I was getting very frustrated trying to figure something out lol.
Also, in case my solution doesn't work out, what type of plug would I need since my SNES Mini doesn't have a coaxial input? Sorry if I sound dumb, I'm not good at this kind of stuff.
For the SNES mini, you'd need a different capture card since it's an HDMI cable. El Gato is a good capture card for HDMI cables, but it is very expensive, about $150.
@@KoachKrab127 So the capture card in your video won't work with the SNES mini? Just making sure I'm on the same page. I looked up the El Gato capture cards and it seems you need an HDMI port on your TV, is this true or is there a way around that? Sorry for all the questions I just want to make sure I buy the right things.
That's correct, the GV-USB2 would not work with the SNES mini, because the SNES mini only uses an HDMI cable. It doesn't use composite cables. You would have to get a capture card like the El Gato. I actually first started streaming with the El Gato, but then I learned about the GV-USB2 and how it's much better for retro consoles.
Crazy barrier to entry for retro speedrunning :( I hope this will be better in the future.
You can always emulate. That is the easiest way to record your gameplay.
@@KoachKrab127 true, but to be nit-picky, in spyro for example you don’t see top players on emulator bc of the slower load times.
I appreciate ppl like you trying to help people along in the capture card process tho
If you're reading this and have been searching for answers, this is it.
So, i had to find this video again, and here was this comment i left to my future self, because i knew i was going to forget how to hook up the y-splitter cables correctly.
nosce te ipsum or temet nosce
how to stream use CRT monitor in RGBS，not AV OR S video,THX