The Art of Filming a CRT TV Screen on your Camera or Phone for Retro Gaming | MVG
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For years i've never really understood why when you try to film or record a CRT TV Screen it strobes or flickers like mad. In this video i talk about my method to get flicker and strobe free captures direct from a CRT monitor or TV on both a Camera and a Phone. Perfect for Retro Gaming!
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This video is an invaluable resource. I'm not even trying to record gameplay, I'm doing glitch video art, and this video has saved me a lot of headaches!
Appreciate you giving some detail on this! I don't own any CRTs anymore but I distinctly remember recording them off screen and seeing black lines all over the screen. This will be helpful if I ever need to film one again 😄
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Love your videos mario. Excellent work. I remember doing everything you did back in the days. First xbox, 360. Messing around with the executer extc.... love it all. Keep it up. Big fan
Favorite. Channel. EVER. It's like you read my mind and make videos for it.
I’ve found that turning the brightness, contrast and saturation on the CRT waaay down to the point that the image looks dull and muddy to the naked eye turns out good on a digital camera. Keep in mind though that i’m in Australia and therefore using the PAL system.
OMG you that 2yo old comment helped me :D thanks!
I love starting off my Monday with your videos. Keep up the great work.
I hope a lot of people watch this and CRT captures across UA-cam get better :-) Good stuff.
This is a brilliant idea for a video MVG! Extremely well done as always. I love your explanation and visual representation of how a CRT works. I never knew about those mobile phone apps that let you dial in your shutter speed. Cool! This is something I have struggled with since my first day in film school. I don't know if you ever tried to capture a CRT with a motion picture film camera but it is one of the most scary things to do. Usually you have to attach an external PSU "Phase Control Unit" to the camera so you can dial in a precise frame rate. When you achieve that rate, the image on the CRT will disappear completely which means the CRT is completely in sync with the camera's shutter. Nothing like looking through the camera and appearing to record complete black! There were special technicians that rented out CRT's that ran at 24fps and would sync with the camera because when you sync the camera to the CRT it would throw your sound out of sync and change your light levels. Fun times. Now I use a function called "Clear Scan" to sync my digital camera's shutter with the CRT. This is what your were referring to when you said there are expensive cameras that give your precise control. The big issue for me (and it is a problem with flat panels too) is Moire. I notice you had some severe Moire in some of your shots. I deal with this by using filtration on the lens, a Tengo head, and playing with the angle, but it isn't something that is easily dealt with like the sync issue is. I know it is all about the phosphors of the imaging sensor lining up with the pixels on the CRT so I try to get those in sync but it is very difficult. If you have any tips please let me know and I can do likewise. Another thing to consider is that camera movement will effect the sync as will the actual software. You may sync you camera to Amiga Workbench, but when you load up an program that sync can change. Don't forget NTSC isn't really 60Hz, it is 59.939 and runs at 29.97 fps. This is basically irrelevant in your situation with the Lumix, but makes a difference when dialing in the Clear Scan. Thanks for a great video. Top notch work!
Man is a pro and knows what he’s talking about. Also find a camera with a heavier OLPF or optical low pass filter and you’ll end up with less Moire and aliasing artifacts.
I want to experiment with a diffusion filter when filming CRTs to see if it helps with moire. It won’t be Razer sharp when you film but could be a nice solution for most.
A great detailed and experienced based response. Shared insight is to be commended.
Teach me sempai ! This is really great information Bill thank you so much
great call with the OLPF Alexander. Honestly the lend diffusion is hit or miss and isn't that dramatic of help. You need a really strong one, but sometimes a little Black Diffusion f/x can help take the edge off or a Classic Soft
Thank you Artstate you rock dude!
Waited whole video for you to mention/explain a 59.94 hz signal. lol (For anyone interested, it's actually 60/1.001, which started when they switched from B&W to color broadcast, going from 30 Hz to 29.97.)
Very informative video! I've learned quite a bit more now about capturing CRT footage as cleanly as possible!
Seriously, why would anyone vote this video down? Very useful information, thank you!
lcd/flat panel users :) :)
This is brilliant. Thank you so much mate. I’ve argued with this myself and had no idea. And good to know that using a phone is not out of the question.
This video is helpful my friend, because I been trying to record my game play on my Panasonic crt tv, well ever single time I see the flickering effect on my footage, but thanks to your video I was able to resolve that flickering problem. So thank you so much for the content.
Very useful tips on this channel, and this video open me a door, I play a lot PS2 and now can do gameplays in the right way..Thanks a lot MVG
Very informative and helpful, MVG. Another helpful tip worth mentioning for capturing CRT footage would be to lock the camera into manual exposure, just so that it doesn't brighten up the image when the screen goes black.
One of my viewers referred me over to this channel and I'm glad that he did. This is a fantastic video that is incredibly helpful. As a fellow Pixel 2 (XL) owner, I decided to use Open Camera. It's free, open source software with no ads that allows for the same freedom of control as the app you're suggesting. Just remember to enable Camera API 2 in the settings and you're good to go.
Great stuff, and you earned my subscription!
honestly i love what you do around here mvg the retro gaming content with helpful videos on things like xlink kai for example, its informative and entertaining, also the original xbox content is a big winner for me :)
Love the production quality and music on your channel, it just feels so nice!
Oh man this is SUPER useful, and I haven't even thought about this "issue" until this video. you rock man
The best videos are the ones that remain timeless. Thanks MVG - this was exactly what I was looking for!
Just can't get enough of your content, informative while being entertaining! thank you MVG!
Fantastic Video!!!
This is extremely detailed and informative!
Having the ability to properly capture raw gameplay/footage from a CRT in it's environment really adds to the authenticity!
brilliant mate, i been looking for this for a while
BTW: i was watching this video on my crt while i was testing the same app you have on your phone, and it worked! the flikkerin is gone, thanks a lot man
Ive got to say I have never thought about using my phone to capture a CRT, however now I kind of want to see how my Pixel 2 Fares against my Panasonic GH2, great video, very informative on the topic.
give it a try. id be very interested it how it stacks up againast the GH2 !
Hello there
It's nice to see CRTs captured beautifully.
Could you make a video on CRTs in general? Why some are better than others. What are generally good CRTs to get for retro gaming? From low end to high end? I know the market is already blown up, but it would still be nice to hear from you.
Interested as well.
When it comes to retro gaming, any CRT with any video input will look MILES better than playing a 240p game on a flat panel display. So in that sense, the best CRT is any CRT you can get for free. I just got a 27inch regular consumer CRT with component video on the back for 10$ off Craigslist. It looks INCREDIBLE. Unless you're ready to start shelling out BIG BUCKS for a premium CRT like a high end Sony model or some type of professional monitor, you're really going to be set with any consumer set. I'd recommend looking for one with component video input, though, as it really does look great
@@bartsneezin lmao I found a 13 inch sony trinitron tv by a dumpster and it works perfectly fine
This was a great video and super useful. I have some many games on old PC's that I can't capture at the moment so this would be a great workaround. Also you've got some amazing kit - love those pvm's and everdrives etc!!! :D
Thank you so much!
Please know, this channel is doing a great service to all of us Retro Gamers! 🎮😀
This is what i'm looking for, thanks!
my pleasure
João Luiz
and someday, in the name of the video piracy, in the year 21xx, a person will wear his glasses provided by his ophthalmologist, but modified later by the said "blind" person to have an embeded-in-the-glasses miniaturized recording HD recording proffesional camera, to be used in a cinema to screen capture the Hollywood's new blockbuster movie "Megaman X".
Than [Thanasis] Zamp Well, Megaman X is already a blockbuster, at least in my life!
João Luiz I am a big fan of Megaman X too.
I don’t make UA-cam videos, but I was curious about this for a while. Thanks for sharing, I love learning tidbits like this!
You are the man MVG!! Always look forward to your vids.
You can of course go slower than the native refresh. for example if you need 50, you could go to 25 and expose the camera correct (as it will get way brighter). this will introduce some motion blur though but it'd mean that you are sampling more that one game frame per video frame recorded.
Brilliant tips and very informative without getting too technical. I'll take a look at that app too - should be a good addition to my kit!
Wow, this is something I have been working on all week! Thanks so much
This is extremely useful, well explained and put together. Really want to thank you for all your videos.
This is my favorite retro game channel
Also. NTSC is just a tiny bit slower in their refresh rates compared with the old black and white standards. This is an artifact from the time when the standards elders demanded that the color signal could be shown on an older black and white screen. So strictly speaking, the 60hz NTSC is actually refreshing at 59.94hz which could answer why there are still artifacting going on when capturing the image with a 60fps camera.
One should also remember that modern cheap imaging senaors are using a rolling electronic shutter. These usually don't bother users until you whip the camera around or point it at objects that move repeatedly faster than the framerate. Aka the jello effect. This could also be a contributing factor to why there are still stray artefacts.
jmalmsten This is why I use either a 2/3" 3-chip studio/system camera or an EFP/ENG camcorder that utilizes FT/(UA)IT/FIT CCDs with full electronic/mechanical global shutters, and record the signal to either analog or digital videotape or direct to the SSD/HDD in my computer via capture card. The settings are fully adjustable and significantly more tunable with professional gear than with consumer gear.
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great video mate , this will prove really helpful as am wanting to record a few games for the channel , thanks for uploading 🖒
really well produced videos.
Excellent work mate as always!
Really insightful and useful. Thanks MVG :)
Another awesome video, keep up the good work!
Top content by MVG as always!
It looks amazing how old games looks on a CRT. Nice video...😍
i started watching and was intrigued. Then I seen your videos regarding you creating xbox emulators, annnnddd now i'm subbed. Love the content!
Cool to know, I'll probably never need to use it but awesome video as always mate.
I love these kind of videos :o)
One thing which I myself struggle with a lot with capturing my CRT is the moire effect, I find just making it a slight touch out of focus with the DSLR manual focus ring reduces it drastically. Once again, great video!, I really enjoyed this one :o)
Love your videos, too, Lemon!
thank you! yeah i do exactly the same thing (slightly adjust the focus) to remove the moire effect. it's hard to tell with my view finder sometimes though if its there or not - i recommend a field monitor plugged into the HDMI out of my camera. its helped immensely !
Magical word of the video " shutter speed " ; thanks for doing this excellent video
Thank you for this video! This was one of the things I was trying to figure out for a while, going to be trying it.
Hi MVG, I really like your videos, you interested me in retro gaming, it's obvious for me that making videos of it is your passion. Keep up the good work in the future, I count for more good content of yours. Greetings.
Thank you so much I was wondering if my tv was bad, but its only a sync issue. Really thanks keep the good work. Show us more about retro consoles.
This was absolutely amazing! Thank you for this video
Thank you! Changing the shutter speed fixed my problem.
07:09 - Samsung Galaxy S5, S6, S7, S8 and S9 plus their note phones have this shutter speed in the settings as a standard feature... it is called 'Pro Mode' in the camera. I mainly use it to take great pictures at night or the moon or a starry night sky in the city. Thanks for this video for everyone who doesn't have a Samsung phone or those who don't know about the *Pro Mode* that is available on their phones ever since the Galaxy S5 onwards...they can now do the same thing without needing to get such a high end phone!
Thank you! You have just saved me some money!
I have the S7 but there no pro mode to be found.
Informative content is why I enjoy this channel so much! :3
Awesome work, thanks for the video!
Well done and explained you rock !
thank you very much, good video, it has solved many doubts for me to record videos with retro machines or the CRT of my Arcade machine
Thanks man, I'm considering streaming some retro games by filming a CRT just for fun, but I remembered they flicker like crazy unless you're at just the right angle
Very helpful, this channel is such a gem. Thanks a lot for sharing with us.
You know what, this is useful even for recording aircraft cockpit videos since some models still use CRT - although it may be running in some multiple of 400Hz, because of the generators output.
PVM and RGB Trinitron owner here! Nice video, subscribed.
Thanks for the information man, it really helped me a lot!
I was trying to film with my phone but it's wasn't good.
All of this is new to me, so it's very helpful.
Thank you so much!
Thanks so much for alot of this info! I been trying to record a VGA monitor for an upcoming video and this helped immensely! I'll definitely put the info to good use!
Superb video! Thanks so much for making it
Great video , I love playing retro games on my Sony Trinitron and I wanted to take photos or film the screen and I just could figure it out
Thanks so much for explaining it
thank you so much for posting this! fantastic resource!
Great video. Perhaps you could create a video that explores in more detail how videogames back in the day were designed with CRT TV's in mind and how emulators try to replicate that look but generally have some way to go before they can compete with the look that is achieved using real hardware on CRT's. Thanks again, Chris
Excellent video. Liked and subscribed.
Amazing video, thanks for the tips
Highly detailed, well explained video!
A mystery solved!
Thank you for this excellent video, I will be checking my sony a6000 to see how I can make this change.
Very Helpful man! Thanks so much!!
Thanks for this video!
I am really glad i found Your channel!
Great and insightful video. Thank you very much for this.
Always very informative mvg thanks for the tip
Very well made and interesting video.
Bravo!
Hey dude i love your channel and just want to let you know I picked up a crystal xbox modded for 50 bucks canadian and man it is great. thanks again for all your videos.
Nice topic, great vid!
Oh my goodness, at 1:45 you can hear Hybrid Song (from Quazar I think? the song has various names and a confused origin). This is one of those songs I heard once somewhere and spent months trying to find again, I'm stoked to hear this tune again, thanks for the good memories! :D
Great info. I will be putting it into practise.
you're a genius man. Awesome stuff in your channel.
Excellent video! Thanks
Great video and I great choice of background music.
Excellent video. And a fellow Aussie! Cheers mate :)
Wow this was great, I've been looking for a video on how to film a CRT TV, I'm very glad that you were able to create such a greay video thanks a lot. Loking for more video to improve video quality videos like better ways to record retro game consoles some capture card recomendations and how to keep the quality intact.
Awesome video, brother. Thank you.
Thank you sir, thank you a lot, you don't how i suffered to capture crt footage for my videos.
You're doing the lords work
Cheers for the information mate, I always thought you needed expensive cameras to play with the shutter speed, downloaded a free android app for my phone and it works wonders. Cheers fella.
I don't film CRTs too often (mostly at expos), but still good advice. It's worth noting that similar principles apply to still photography of CRTs.
Thank you very much, that was really helpful. Very well expained!
Thank you! Very helpful.
Superb video, extremely informative.... thank you sir!
Great video! Thanks!
Super helpful thank you for this
Yo, this video saved the day for me! Thank you!
Very helpful video! Selecting the proper camera settings for my UA-cam shots is one of the things I am not the best at, but this explaination helps. Until now I wasn't quite wrapping my head around how shutter speed affects video (as opposed to still photography). Can't wait to get home and experiment. Thanks again!
Awesome! Good luck and let me know how your experience is