My, how I needed this truth when i first got saved. I have so much to unlearn…. But I’m enormously grateful that I now know this Truth 🙏🏽 Thank you Lord❤
How did God respond to our sin and descent into nothingness? He sent Jesus to rescue us all... so beautiful... no, you don’t belong to nothingness, you belong to me!!!
If I could only in fact know who I am. I would cease to behave like who I think I am. And if I ever could stop beh aving as who I think I am.. then I would surely know who I am
this one message should be required listening by every person regularly enough it gets into all our craws. ... then augment it with many of his other talks. like John's revolutionary message, the cat's out of the bag especially part 3, and many others expounding on this.
Where do I go to find a pastor that believes this where do I go to pull out my heart and nothing but pain nothing I'm nothing but a broken mess I want to be included can this be so true can I be can I know the father through Jesus and the Holy Spirit? Can somebody please help me to know to allow me to rest I've never rested a been tormented
Francis, you are included already. It's my prayer that you meet up with someone who can stand alongside you at this time. God is Faithful, he will do it.
Interesting, but no Scripture! I'm not saying I disagree, but should we really use psychology to define our theology? I agree that the reason the Father sent His Son was because He loved us and wanted to redeem us. Nevertheless, it was God who "set the limits" of our freedom. It was He who said, "In the day you eat of it (the tree of the knowledge of good and evil) you will surely die." He cursed the man and the woman and Satan. But He did not stop there. God loved mankind so much that He wanted to protect them, but when they fell into sin (and under the curse), He provided a way out (Genesis 3:15). I will have to listen more, but it seems to me that C. Baxter Kruger, John Crowder and others want to deny that sin interferes with our relationship with God, and until we repent, we cannot be in a right relationship with God. Reconciliation (through the death of Christ) provides the forgiveness of sins (redemption) that restores that relationship. So why do we think this teaching of love is something new? Perhaps the modern church has forgotten this, but the orthodox church has always believed that God the Father is a God of love! Is this a rebuke of the holiness churches, the charismatic and Pentecostal churches, or the reformed churches? Who would he say is closest to the truth? C. Baxter Kruger says, God did not send His Son to save us from the wrath of God. But that is exactly what He did! The world is under a curse because of sin (Galatians 3:13). It is wrong to say that the problem of sin is not a legal problem, but an organic problem. It is both! It is both a legal problem and an organic problem. By solving the legal problem of our sinful flesh (by nailing it to the cross), he simultaneously crucifies the "old man" (solving the legal problem) and creates the "new man" within us (solving the organic problem). The new life we have enters our spirit. It changes us from the inside out. Throughout our life it transforms our soul. One day even our bodies will be redeemed by this same life. The law speaks ONLY to the old man. It creates fear. The old man (our flesh) does not want to obey God. The Law speaks to us and our flesh rebels against Him. The only way out is to reckon (a legal term) him as crucified and dead. Then, and ONLY THEN can we live in the new way of the Spirit as our spirit cries out, "Abba Father." C. Baxter Kruger and John Crowder do not want to acknowledge that sin remains a problem for the christian. As long as we live in "our body of sin and death" the law will condemn us. The solution to the problem of sin is to count the old man dead to sin because of Christ's death on the cross, and to count ourselves alive to God because of the resurrection (Romans 6). This salvation ONLY begins to work itself out in our experience, when we acknowledge that "It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me (Galatians 2:20). In conclusion, we cannot begin to live for Christ until we realize how Christ dealt with our "old man" on the cross. Only when we realize that we have been raised with Christ and He lives in us (the new man - our spirit), do we begin to live for Christ. It is both a legal problem as well as an organic one. Jesus solved the legal problem 2000 years ago. When we appropriate that by faith, we enter into the life He has for us. In other words, when the legal problem is solved, the organic problem is solved when we are given a new identity in Christ.
Jeff Cunningham they are recognizing that the grace of God and the fellowship that we have been brought to through christ is what sets us free from the sinful nature. like, darkness is the absence of light. so you deal with darkness by growing in the Light.
Jeff Cunningham So God cursed them? Where does it say that in the Bible? What it says is that there IS a curse because of disobedience, not that God active cursed them. You seem to believe in a God that curses mankind then goes to a lot of trouble to undo his own curse! So it is God who must pay the penalty for the curse? How can a God of love curse anyone? There is a big difference between declaring that a curse exists and brings the one doing the cursing! Does a doctor cause cancer when he diagnoses it? No. And neither does God. And just as the doctor does his best to bring about a cure, so does God. God often declares "cursed are you when...." But that simply explains the source behind the action. In other words God is saying "you are cursed, and the evidence of that is...." Big difference to the idea that it is God who lays curses on people!
Steve Koschella beautiful. The problem with those who bring the Legal aspect is because they view everything in scriptures through the demonic lens of PSA.
So far I like the title as all of humanity boils down to the acts of adam and the u doing of it by Christ. But I don't like the pagan trinity logo and believe the trinity is a false doctrine.
My, how I needed this truth when i first got saved. I have so much to unlearn…. But I’m enormously grateful that I now know this Truth 🙏🏽 Thank you Lord❤
I’m finally learning who God really is. Thank you
How did God respond to our sin and descent into nothingness? He sent Jesus to rescue us all... so beautiful... no, you don’t belong to nothingness, you belong to me!!!
WOW! This message is part of the answer to my prayers to know the love of God and Jesus more fully! Thank you Lord!
C Baxter Kruger is one of my favorite theologians! I have great respect for him!
Waited 70 years to finally hear something as wonderful as this !
Excellent speaker and teacher is Baxter, thanks for the truth.
Now, this is just simply GOLD.
Yes it is, in fact it's that treasure that we will sell everything in order to obtain it.
If I could only in fact know who I am. I would cease to behave like who I think I am. And if I ever could stop beh aving as who I think I am.. then I would surely know who I am
So blessed to hear this speaks the truth my heart always knew thank you Baxter
Excellent inspirational message
Revealing the greatest Love of all. Simple truths leading to simply good news unbound. Walking in a Spirit realm designed since forever for us.
this one message should be required listening by every person regularly enough it gets into all our craws.
... then augment it with many of his other talks. like John's revolutionary message, the cat's out of the bag especially part 3, and many others expounding on this.
C Baxter, Francois du Toit, Arthur Meintjes.. 👌👏
Awesome awesome message
Thanks pastor. I love your teaching.
YES!!!!! Sing it, brother!!!!!
Good to be reminded that God created us and knows us by name, not just as a cog in the machine of the Evangelical Industrial Complex.
Great way to phrase it. I will use that one for sure
So someone told me that we aren't children of God until we actually get born again. Is this true?
Did the Trinity embody even the people in the OT?
"What is God to do when we blow it? Unthinkable for Him to turn His back on us!!!!!" CBK -Athanasius
I love this message!!
Thanks
Simply amazing.
This is powerful stuff.
Fantastic!! Yes, Part 2, so excited.
The turning and returning to God, Son, and Ruach Ha'kodesh.
Where do I go to find a pastor that believes this where do I go to pull out my heart and nothing but pain nothing I'm nothing but a broken mess I want to be included can this be so true can I be can I know the father through Jesus and the Holy Spirit? Can somebody please help me to know to allow me to rest I've never rested a been tormented
Francis, you are included already. It's my prayer that you meet up with someone who can stand alongside you at this time. God is Faithful, he will do it.
Grace bible community Church Pastor Rodney Beaulieu
Trust you came into His rest, as your comment was written 10 months ago 🤔 As John 9 mnths ago said, you alreády are included !
👌🐑👏 John 14:20
@@mrs.b5842 I know anybody reply work where is that church at are you still checking your UA-cam feed
@@mrs.b5842 yeah I would never go there
5:51 John didn't
Interesting, but no Scripture! I'm not saying I disagree, but should we really use psychology to define our theology? I agree that the reason the Father sent His Son was because He loved us and wanted to redeem us. Nevertheless, it was God who "set the limits" of our freedom. It was He who said, "In the day you eat of it (the tree of the knowledge of good and evil) you will surely die." He cursed the man and the woman and Satan. But He did not stop there. God loved mankind so much that He wanted to protect them, but when they fell into sin (and under the curse), He provided a way out (Genesis 3:15). I will have to listen more, but it seems to me that C. Baxter Kruger, John Crowder and others want to deny that sin interferes with our relationship with God, and until we repent, we cannot be in a right relationship with God. Reconciliation (through the death of Christ) provides the forgiveness of sins (redemption) that restores that relationship. So why do we think this teaching of love is something new? Perhaps the modern church has forgotten this, but the orthodox church has always believed that God the Father is a God of love! Is this a rebuke of the holiness churches, the charismatic and Pentecostal churches, or the reformed churches? Who would he say is closest to the truth?
C. Baxter Kruger says, God did not send His Son to save us from the wrath of God. But that is exactly what He did! The world is under a curse because of sin (Galatians 3:13). It is wrong to say that the problem of sin is not a legal problem, but an organic problem. It is both! It is both a legal problem and an organic problem. By solving the legal problem of our sinful flesh (by nailing it to the cross), he simultaneously crucifies the "old man" (solving the legal problem) and creates the "new man" within us (solving the organic problem). The new life we have enters our spirit. It changes us from the inside out. Throughout our life it transforms our soul. One day even our bodies will be redeemed by this same life.
The law speaks ONLY to the old man. It creates fear. The old man (our flesh) does not want to obey God. The Law speaks to us and our flesh rebels against Him. The only way out is to reckon (a legal term) him as crucified and dead. Then, and ONLY THEN can we live in the new way of the Spirit as our spirit cries out, "Abba Father." C. Baxter Kruger and John Crowder do not want to acknowledge that sin remains a problem for the christian. As long as we live in "our body of sin and death" the law will condemn us. The solution to the problem of sin is to count the old man dead to sin because of Christ's death on the cross, and to count ourselves alive to God because of the resurrection (Romans 6). This salvation ONLY begins to work itself out in our experience, when we acknowledge that "It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me (Galatians 2:20).
In conclusion, we cannot begin to live for Christ until we realize how Christ dealt with our "old man" on the cross. Only when we realize that we have been raised with Christ and He lives in us (the new man - our spirit), do we begin to live for Christ. It is both a legal problem as well as an organic one. Jesus solved the legal problem 2000 years ago. When we appropriate that by faith, we enter into the life He has for us. In other words, when the legal problem is solved, the organic problem is solved when we are given a new identity in Christ.
It's not psychology. It's just what is: new covenant reality.
Jeff Cunningham I believe he is speaking the same language. he's just seeing it from God's perspective of His original intent in creation.
Jeff Cunningham they are recognizing that the grace of God and the fellowship that we have been brought to through christ is what sets us free from the sinful nature. like, darkness is the absence of light. so you deal with darkness by growing in the Light.
Jeff Cunningham So God cursed them? Where does it say that in the Bible? What it says is that there IS a curse because of disobedience, not that God active cursed them.
You seem to believe in a God that curses mankind then goes to a lot of trouble to undo his own curse! So it is God who must pay the penalty for the curse? How can a God of love curse anyone?
There is a big difference between declaring that a curse exists and brings the one doing the cursing! Does a doctor cause cancer when he diagnoses it? No. And neither does God. And just as the doctor does his best to bring about a cure, so does God.
God often declares "cursed are you when...." But that simply explains the source behind the action. In other words God is saying "you are cursed, and the evidence of that is...." Big difference to the idea that it is God who lays curses on people!
Steve Koschella beautiful.
The problem with those who bring the Legal aspect is because they view everything in scriptures through the demonic lens of PSA.
I just want to avoid hell somehow.
Acts 2:21 KJV
[21] And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Just ask the Lord to be saved
@@flyingcrocs8144 ok.😎
Nothing came into being without him …. Please I’m not being rude! Where did evil come from?
Evil came the very moment Adam ate of the wrong Tree.. but then Jesus was sent as LAST Adam to undo whatever went wrong in the first Adam! Rom 5:12-21
So far I like the title as all of humanity boils down to the acts of adam and the u doing of it by Christ. But I don't like the pagan trinity logo and believe the trinity is a false doctrine.
2nd Corinthians 13-14 to you
Pagan logo?? How?
Awesome awesome message