ExtremeBull Commander Pro is it the ultimate LONG RANGE tRaiL WhEeL?
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- This is my take on the most order slept on wheel of the year. This video was made solely from a trail riders perspective. Please feel free to ask any questions and ill do my best to get back. Enjoy !!!
Best review of the Commander Pro! Great insights and great skills riding! I've been eying this wheel for a very long time; changed my mind once after batch 1, but later came back when I saw improvements and very little amount reviews of this wheel.
I'll be getting my Commander Pro in a month! Super happy to see it pulled through and has proven itself a great wheel. And I agree, this wheel has been slept on... But that's because the way batch 1 came out imo.
Thanks for putting together this great review!
Ya buddy, 100lbs is a lot of Kandy to throw around on dirt & rocks. I've taken my ex30 out as well but its definitely not as playful as the T4. But its much more capable than I expected & very surprisingly, the ex30's suspension feels better on dirt than the T4. Would love to try the CP to compare with my ex30. Good stuff Chance
PS: Personally lower CG or higher, they need different techniques to ride. No doubt the ex30 needs to be muscled more but eventually, one adapts & it becomes instinctive. Jumping on after, T4 feels super wobbly. The ex has awesome pedal height with no clips at all unlike the RS
Balance your tire maybe
Yea agreed. Still think ex30 is terrible for off-road it’s natural state is upright, it doesn’t like to be pitched over into turns, can the rider adapt and learn to fight the “anti” lean of the ex30 off-road? Sure they can but doesn’t make it a pleasurable experience to ride, at least in my opinion, along with the awkward battery boxes being to far forward and back I think the cp is the much better option for off-road/all arounder. Not saying ex30 can’t do all of that just not the same user experience. The t4 is fun because of how light it is it reminded me of my rs
@@wattssingletrack8874 Ya I get that as I wouldnt have gotten the ex30 if it was my only wheel. T4 is so much more playful on the technical stuff. That said, I still wonder how much is the geometry & how is the tire. If amusing that the CP comes with street rubber while the ex30 comes with the knobby. It would have lots better if it was the Shinko 244/241 knobby as either have a much rounder profile. Cant help but feel the lumpy handling is due to the CST
Hell yeah, I hope this wheel lasts and you can start uploading on the regular again 🤙
I don’t make videos too often. Usually only if new badass trail I find or if I got a new wheel. But wasn’t able to make videos for past 4/5 months because of all the rain and snow California got this year.
Hi...great video... what tire did you use in this wheel?.. thanks
Hey have you found any solid roller replacement for this wheel? Mine went bad fast
You have some good insights on trail riding a heavy wheel. Moved to a Sherman S from a little S18 (“good garbage” haha) and expected a big trade off for weight but found it surprisingly nimble (I am 6’-2”, 200 lbs). The pedal height and torque is a huge plus. Never rode a 134v so probably don’t know what I am missing there. Impressive riding and video as always.
S18 was just so problematic I broke 6x separate packs, the nickel strips fail in them a LOT !! If you ever see your charger flicker green then back to red your pack is done for. But yea the s18 is a fun super nimble wheel, just too many flaws, weak outer shell, weak rim, bad pack design. But enjoy it, thrash it, break it, and move on to new wheels. Rinse and repeat 😀😆
Been waiting for a big battery wheel that can not only give you a shot on the trails, but actually be enjoyable out there. Makes for a fine well rounded wheel that you can bring on road trips and far away community riding events that can handle all the rides and not give you range anxiety. Looking forward to getting one quite soon!
Yea it’s a awesome wheel especially for its range. I rode the trails downhill, then hope on the pavement and ride back up the mountain on the road at 45mph faster than cars can run the twisty mountain roads
Impressive riding. Have you tried tuning shocks to be firmer/sportier, high rebound? Just curious if you've experimented with that suspension for different ride feel
Yeah Iv played with it all the way from the low end to high end on compression and rebound. This wheels infinitely tunable its awesome. Other thing I really like is the magnesium side case. This is the first wheel Iv never added armor or fairings or bumpers too. It’s just that tough and robust
@@wattssingletrack8874 nice! I'd say your riding preferences are a really good test of wheel/suspension durability
can't wait to see inmotion brings to the table, since everyone around them has beefed up their Suspension's.
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They will put 3 on the same thing on each side
Are you still like the suspension ? How does it compare to the extreme? Besides greater distance.
Fork vs linkage, both are smooth, almost in their own way but I think linkage is the way to go for off-roading. Forks work good for street. All my other wheels now feel like they have no suspension at 80-90mm vs the extreme has so much travel it makes a huge difference. Especially when you add Sag
Great review. I have the Master and have found it top-heavy and the suspension is not what I would call smooth, quiet, or compliant. I know lots of people like it, but I have not gotten used to it yet. So far, the Master disappoints. Hopefully, that will change with more miles.
So you say what it's not. What you think it is
So stock master linkage is not great at all with the new aftermarket links are way better. That being said it still does not even compare to this fork suspension. If you don’t like the master I’d recommend finding a cp to try and potentially sell your master and get a cp
@@coolhawk2003 I think you're asking e to say something good about the Master? OK, it does have good top-end speed.
@@wattssingletrack8874 I did change the linkage (not to Kuba) and am still not impressed, but I will continue with it a bit more and see how it goes.
@@arevee9429 cool thanks . You a heavier rider ? And do you offroad ? Or trail rides ? Like this guy in the video?
Suspension looks really bouncy, you must have a hard time climbing hills and keeping the tire to the ground.
Quite the opposite. My tires never been more glued to the ground, I have my rebound and compression set for what works the best for me on these sort of trails. Most planted wheel Iv tried to date on dirt
whats your height and weight just so i can understand how the wheels my weight and height
I’m 5’10” and rider weight geared up 170lbs. If your heavier you can adjust the suspension as needed really nice part of the fork suspension is it’s much more tunable to each rider specific needs
Where are these proving grounds you take these wheels to?
Central california in the sierra mountains 🏔️
You're crazy bro!😂😍 These riding skills!
Highly considering this wheel but how’s the water proofing ?
It’s actually fairly decent every except you need to silicone the motor cable hole. Extremebull left it unsealed. I did talk to the extremebull ceo about it as well so it should be addressed in further batches. But it’s the best long range trail wheel for sure
@@wattssingletrack8874 appreciate that info thanks . I have the s18, v11, and the ex.n . I’m ready for a new wheel, it’s between all the “ extreme “ wheels the begode one you worked on , commander pro and mini , but also considering the Patton . I’m just my dream but Id love to see a Sherman s as 134 v pro or max version ha.
Anyway looking forward to your review on the new begode , id go spring over air shock too.
I’m glad you brought up the issue with begode about 1st batch having problems and screwing over riders who spend hard earned money . Super glad they are trying to learn what riders want from you ! Looking forward to more videos peace
G-Day Bud my names Marz.... Great vid & great info.... Well done.... Thanx 4 sharing.... New supporter.... Also i put ya vid in my EUC playlist just thought i'd let ya know.
Thanks !! My channels a pretty niche one since only trail riding, but I try to be realistic about the wheels and how they do for this kind of riding
First comment!!
Lol every time !!
Do you think you'll be testing the V. Patten?? Just a correction that the SS and CP have the same 90mm of travel, according to Ewheels comparison page of the two.🙂
Yeah I realize that info was wrong I need to go edit it at least in the video description I was going off info I had gotten from one of the main dealers at the time off memory. I’m hoping to be testing the patton out in June at the z shredfest euc and onewheel race out in California
Urgh now I’ll have to buy 134v chargers haha. Was leaning towards the sherman s just so i can reuse my 100v chargers :(
Lol just buy a Roger charger it comes with all charger ends for every 100v+ wheel and variable amps and variable voltage. A charger is a bad reason to not buy a wheel 🤣🤣🤣 just teasin but yea highly recommend Roger charger
My go to right now is my sherman max, does amazing on trails but feels like an anvil when jumping. I'm keeping my eyes on the begode extreme Ibex as long as they keep the weight down.
The extreme will be 36kg confirmed
What is your weight and suspension rebound/compression settings on CP?
160lbs and 21x clicks clockwise from fully turned left. And run the firmer setting on big Allen wrench tool
Another top video, thank you i love watching them
This was a great review. I have been hesitant to get the EB Commander Pro because of it's weight, but it sounds like I just need to get it and grow some muscles.
It’s for sure a beast but it’s a labor intensive wheel for singletrack riding even after 1000+ miles conditioning but it is also very good at it. For sure beat long range 55-60 miles of trails on a single charge
Great review, thanks. What kind of tire do you prefer offroading? It seems that the CP have a dual use tire (street/dirt mix) is it good enough for offroading ?
Yeah I have the stock “street” tire option it ships with on currently in all of these videos. It does good enough but I do plan on putting a knobby eventually just too lazy to take it apart till I have to
I got the X-Men HT. The torque is great, but the footplates are very low.
Dang first person Iv heard that bought one. The pedals are the same height as an rs19 right?
Thank you for the video!
I want Begode Extreme's suspension, with 4800Wh battery for street riding. Though at 130mm travel, it only matched S22's suspension travel. 150 mm travel would be sweet, since S22 still bottom out on some occasions.
Would be 105lbs+ wheel way too heavy in my opinion
@@wattssingletrack8874 Need to rewire the brain to get use to it in low speed. I already have a very strong legs. I would get it for the range and speed. With 22" wheel and 130mm suspension travel would glide over potholes and pedestrian curves much easier.
@@Hunter_Heart it would also be extremely heavy which affects how flickable a wheel is. 22” wheels have way to much weight to the rim and rotating mass that they have a strong gyro affect that makes them stable but not super flickable as a 16” wheel.
Could you ride the CPro in light rain or are there too many water ingress points?
I think it’s fine in light rain 🌧️ extremebull said I could use a hose to clean out mud in my wheel well. Iv also been riding in light rain and a LOT of mud like a LOT. No issues with water ingress. That being said I wouldn’t go ride in a downpour but I wouldn’t do that with any wheel
Would love a commander mini or begode extreme for the trails and this for doing deliveries on
Yea, I’ll still use this for long range trails but I too want a cp mini and an extreme
No word mentioning the S22 or the Pro. Is it already obsolet?
It sounds like KS isn't on his play list anymore. Most of the influencers have left KS and have gone all in on the 134 volt wheels.
I ride my S22 and enjoy it and will continue until it doesn't work anymore. I cannot keep up (financially) to all the new wheels.
Yes it is obsolete if you have deep pockets or new to the game.
I have a video on the s22 reviewing is but in general no I will never buy an s22. Too many issues and major lack of torque vs 134v begodes
You ride some gnarly trails
Thanks man I appreciate that at least some people can see even through a video that some of the trails I ride are pretty rough
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Ordered mine yesterday and pretty glad I did after watching this video. 🤙
Your gonna enjoy it, it’s a super fun wheel. Probably the best all arounder imo at the current time
@wattssingletrack8874 do you know if there is any way to lock this wheel so nobody can turn it on but the owner?
Do you twist both side the same amount of clicks in the suspension?
Yeah
Also is yours charging all the way to 134.4v? I can only get up to 132v
Great video, as usual.
Thnxs 👊