Fluance RT84 +2M Blue, Review. Happily I bought this myself. Not a free sample. Also,
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
- Dear Friends, thank you for your time again :-D We are back with another hotly suggested turntable to be reviewed: the US$450 Fluance RT84 that now comes with the 2M Blue (instead of the previous 2M Red). I thought the Rega P1 will clearly get beat this time with its stock Carbon cartridge also priced at the same $450 in North America.
Lo and behold.......the latter won. I guess we are all shocked, or maybe rather not, as the experienced vinylists had told us before: that a great tonearm is really tantamount to superb resolution and playback performance, above having a costly cartridge, a thick plinth, and of course, the marketing hype (your 5 stars, awards, and skewed reviews due to the influence of goodwill and sponsorships).
I believe you friends will do the same for me, as I would do for you: honesty, spending your own money to buy equipment for reviews, and avoiding all forms of monetary rewards.
Remember, this is a hobby we all hold dear. Don't spoil it! :-D We need stonkingly great equipment (and affordable) to enjoy our vinyl music!!!
My family and I have been busy lately with the Diwali festivities with our fellow Indian Singaporeans, and helping an Indian neighbour who had just newly moved in! Moko is in the thick of action too. She is recovering very well after intensive rehabilitation physiotherapy sessions after the operation on her Right Hind Leg (Cranial Cruciate Ligament rupture sustained in June). Thank you to some of you friends' well wishes!!! Woof woof!!! :-D
...Warmest regards to all of you dearest buddies and friends!!!
*Background :-)
Dearest Friends and Buddies,
I am Ian and I reside in sunny Singapore. I love our Vinyl Community and Vinyl Music. Vinyl analogue playback is utterly blissful, and I want for fellow friends and buddies to engage in vinyl music for many, many years in their life, each vinyl buddy through their school life, through the hustle and bustle of daily work, accompany them through precious hours at home with their family members or in their hostel with their friends. Vinyl music is blissful, free of time smear, phase shift, pre-ring and post-ring that plagues digital playback. Vinyl buddies and friends can all attest to that. It is not warm in the “bassy warm” sense, it is not soothing in the sense that “everything gets smoothed out”. It is because it is analogue, very detailed, calm, invigorating, enthralling, dynamic, refreshing. In a word, blissful. Utterly :-D
I want for all to get the very equipment that will get us there. These equipment, I firmly believe, are present, and existent, even at affordable price points!..and I started off in Dec 2015 hunting out for them, selling off my own Rega RP6 (which my wife and I loved) to fund the first batch of cartridges for review: the 5 cartridges in Group A ($70-$80), and the 7 cartridges in Group B ($90-$130). Subsequently I told myself to set aside $500-$1000 per month from my monthly salary to buy equipment to review. My own money. Quite a hefty sum monthly, significant to me, as I am a salaried man. This is my commitment. I believe in every field, there are people who have to make the sacrifice to pursue their love for the greater good, and to serve, the community of friends. I have also downsized my car in mid-2017 so as to commit these monies to fund these projects. I totally, rigorously, and kindly reject all forms of donations, be they from friends, from retailers, from manufacturers. This is a hobby, and my teachers and advisors in life have advised me that to bring balance to life, and to be wholesome, one will engage in a livelihood (daily job or business) that earns the monies, and one will also simultaneously engage in a hobby/service in life that is non-competitive, non-monetarily-remunerative. My wife totally understands what I want to do for the community and she so kindly supports my decision and efforts. Vinyl music is a lovely hobby I hold dearly. Friends and buddies are my ultimate responsibility and my love. I want the very best for them, and to provide totally honest reviews. Moles exist in hifi forums, moles also exist from benefactors who donate. I do not want to remotely encounter any moles masquerading as benefactors donating to my cause, only to find out sooner or later that such donations were/are from certain manufacturers or retailers. Everybody will do things differently. I want to maintain my status as a common-folk, aspire always to adopt the Shokunin spirit: of spending the utmost diligent care, through unhurried work, never caring for returns, in perfecting their work for the community. The personal satisfaction of getting to the very best equipment in each price class to help all my lovely buddies and friends is, the only thing, in store for me :-D We toast to the joy and bliss of vinyl analogue music. Vinyl Music deserves our love and attention. Our listening. Our care.
Let's go, buddies and friends!!!
Warmest Regards,
~ ian :-D
Dear Ian, First let me wish you and your family good health. You and your colleagues, whether in Singapore, the UK or elsewhere are the true heroes in the worldwide battle with Covid-19. Your heroism is all the greater because you are fighting an invisible opponent, often without inadequate equipment or support. Thank you many times over.
Because of my age I am in total isolation lockdown - and might be so for the immediate future- and so unable to have my MC cartridge replaced on my Michell Gyro SE turntable. Your cheerful, honest enthusiastic appraisal of turntables, cartridges and phonostages has given me much food for thought (and pleasure) as I consider what substitute turntable to buy. The Michell Techno arm is great until you are my age and have to replace the cartridge. The fact that you use your own money and particularly time to give information and pleasure to others is the mark not only of an enthusiast but shows a love for your fellow man.
Stay well. Stay sane.
Daniel Cramer
Dear Brother in the U.K.,
Thank you for your immense words and support.
I am very touched.
I just came home after a 12hr shift from work. Knackered indeed. Just washed up and settled down for dinner.
But reading your message as I'm seated down here at 8pm at the table with my wife and Moko besides me, my wife and I naturally feel it to drop my dinner and write to you first.
Yes, we are fighting an invisible enemy, you do not know is the patient in front of you, a +ve case. Yes it is clichéd....the stiffening PPE, the headaches, the sweat, the discomfort, the fear, the hungry stomach, the thoughts of our loved ones. The countless sacrifices, and yes, the most immeasurable one: one's life.
We have to protect ourselves, our working medical and nursing colleagues, so that we can continue to fight this war.
We will fight on.
We will march on.
Thank you for your love and kindness, Brother.
And, please let me wish for you and your family good health, safety, and jay you all be well and happy💚🏡🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
And a lovely spinning Michell💪🤗👌with a new cartridge soon to spin beautiful analogue music again.
@@HiViNywschannel Hi ian. I have a rega planar 1 and im planning to upgrade. I would go with planar 6 or higher. 6,8 or 10 what should i get? With that, i think i might get the rega aria too. I also wanna know which amplifier will you recommend? Thanks!!
@@HiViNywschannel also, keep safe!
I actually came to see that video after I've ordered an RT85, which is not actually shipped yet. But sadly after watching this video I get really confused. Because this video probably the only where fluance's RT series quite ruined. The actual reason for me is upgrade of my 5-y old dual cs 420. But not I'm not sure that I'm on the right way.
@@si130 Brother, thank you for catching up here again🤗 , I am sorry that my review doesn't favour it. But, again, thank you for saying it out loud🤗🙏🍀
I will stick to the Dual CS420 given the same circumstances.
Another great review. I hope that many watch this as it is an abject lesson in how to listen when going to purchase a TT.
Dear Buddy Paul :-D thank you too for your friendship and support too!!!! I really appreciate your time!!! Thank you Buddy!
Warmest Regards to you and your family on this lovely weekend!!!
~ ian.
Hey Ian, A brand new review video from you makes my Sunday perfect! I am more than glad to see you back. And yes, my MP-500 is still my favorite. :-)) Have a wonderful Sunday evening, my friend and thanks for doing all these wonderful reviews!
Guten Tag my friend!!!! Hehheh i am glad to hear that your SL1200Mk3D + KAB with 78rpm motor AND MP-500 are doing heavenly stuff!!!! You too Brother, have a lovely Sunday out with your family too! Warmest Regards, to you guys,at 6degC there... peace and love,
~ ian.
It's great to see you back!
So good to hear from you again on this chilly Sunday morning. Enjoying a cup of coffee and your video. A great start to my day! Keep up the great work my friend and my MP 500 still Rocks!! 😁
OMG.... YOUR MP-500, MP-150, AND MP-110 ALL getting through your MANI :-D !!!!!!!!! Keeping you warm this wintry period...
Hope you score some great buys next Friday, and have a lovely pre-festive season these few weeks!!! Thank you for all the love these past two years and counting... thank you!
Warmest Regards my friend!!
~ ian.
What a nice surprise on this Sunday morning. Good morning Brother Ian. It is so good to see you posting a new video. Will be back to wrap up~
Rob/Boston
Dearest Big Brother Rob from Boston :-D wow thank you for being so early!!!! :-D . Hehheh!!! Looking forward to your King Crimson EPISODE!!!!
Love from M and i ~
~ ian.
Great to see you Ian and thanks for confirming my suspensions on the Fluence
Dear Buddy Mark :-D great to see you again!!!! hi five!!!!
Yes you and i all have our question marks answered.
Thank you for being with me in spirit and yet being neutral on this issue :-D
We are all buddies being truthful to one another.
Nothing more, nothing less.
100% honesty.
Warmest Regards Mark and thank you for your time,
~ ian.
Thank you so much for all your reviews. I believe your reviews to be some of the most complete and informative i've ever seen as for showing equipment comparison of sound qualities.
Again Thank You for the great work you do, please keep the reviews coming.
Dear Grace, thank you very much for gracing my videos🤗😄🙏. I'll find time and space to do them. Thank you so much for your encouragement!
Warmest Regards and stay safe and healthy🤗everyone in your family!🌈🏡🍀
Honestly, it's a huge joy to watch all your videos! And your philosophy of life you described today is worthy and inspirational to follow. Thank you!
Brother from Taipei!!! Hi!! Hehheh!!! thank you Sir for catching up with me after a year!!! Hope this year has been very kind to you and your business!!!
May we all have peace and warmth on this earth!
~ ian.
I follow your channel all the time! Every new episode is like searching for and following the traces of perfection. My honest gratitude! "Life without music would be a mistake" (Friedrich Nietzsche)
Once again HiViNyws knocks it out of the park. His research on turntable comparisons is incomparable to any other UA-cam creators. I'm happy to say that I purchased a Planar 1 three months ago and have been very happy with it. To say I was so near on pulling the trigger on a Fluance RT84/85. It goes to show that patience and research is always the key.
Thank you once again HiViNyws for your extensive research you've done on the matter, and of course helping out the vinyl community.
Best regards,
Eli
Dear Eli :-D great to see you again!!!! how are you!!! must be swinging along with that groovy P1 doing splendid duties at your home!!! Brother...thank you...for your kind time all these months...
Let me reply you on another message on your Marantz/Yamaha now..:-D
Thank you Buddy!!! See you!!!
~ ian.
Hello, my friend! So glad to see you posting again. The P1 wins the battle once again. Rega really got this one right!
Hope you're well, friend, keep up with the great videos!
Brother :-D thank you for catching up!!! Enjoy your SL1200!!!!!
Hope you are having lots of fun, and enjoy a lovely Sunday too Brudder!!!
~ ian.
Dear Ian, Thank you for another wonderful and informative review. Your honesty, passion and diligence is very much appreciated and wishing a speedy recovery for beloved Moco.
Dear Buddy Tom! :-D thank you for catching up again, and telling us about the mold release agent a month ago!!! :-D
I feel touched that you voiced your love and well wishes for Moko baby... thank you very much my friend...
Love,
from Moko, wifey and i in singapore.
My favorite turntable channel by far. THANK YOU!
Oh, how I missed your uncompromising review Ian! I really love them! I love how you shredded the project essential and now the Fluance.. Interesting how you seem to be the first person to notice the similarities between the Fluance and the Audio technica (well, them essentially being clones). It is so refreshing to have someone really testing turntables properly, without sponsoring from the manufacturer and be so thorough.. I do (and I’m sure many like me) buy your test winners blind because of that. A really big thank you from the Netherlands!
I also hope it comes across as positive s as I mean it to be. English just isn’t my native language.
Brother Erwin :-D hi hi!!!! Thank you for your support. I need it.
Your words of support and understanding allow me to go on.
Thank you my dear brother for many years!!!!
AND YES!!!.......How are you with your P1 and Thorens TD-124 --- Jelco SA-750-DB --- Nagaoka MP-110 and latest Acoustic Signature Tango phonostage?! :-D Yummy!!!
@@HiViNywschannel Well, seriously, if I could, and it would help you, I would travel to Singapore to support you (ie cook, shop, etc.). I think it's paramount to get through this very trying time as best as we can!
And how DO you remember that stuff? I sold the P1 and the Pioneer PLX-1000 after that. So only Thorens left. And I really DO prefer the Mani to the AS Tango, funny enough. That Mani really is a giant killer! For now, just the phono stage of the Luxman amp (the tube amp is spare / something to try when I get bored).
But mainly, let's get through this with all our health in tact and I really hope nobody here loses their lives over Covid...
Hi Ian, Great to see you again with your review of the Fluance RT-84. Fluance has provided turntables to several UA-cam channels for review. All of the reviews I have seen have been very positive. However, none of the their reviews are as detailed and comprehensive as yours. Thank you for working so hard to keep the vinyl community informed with your excellent reviews. I also enjoyed your footage of the Little India. My best to you and your family.
Dearest Steven...thank you for catching up with me again so on time, every time. Thank you for your friendship.
I wish for you and your family in CA health and peace always...
Nagaoka doing lovely duties as always in your home too!
:-D
~ ian.
HiViNyws channel Happy New Year to you and your family! Good news, I finally found a Technics SL-1200 Mk2 in excellent condition for about the same price as the Fluance RT84. A cartridge was not included, but that was okay, since I already have the Nagaoka MP-110. The SL-1200 performs splendidly, true sonic bliss! I am extremely happy that I patiently searched for this turntable. Thank you for your expert guidance and support. Your help has been invaluable. I look forward to seeing more of your videos in 2020!
@@cpta03 Brother Steven!!!!!!! You've got it!!!!!!!!! And hi hi hi Happy New Year!!!!👋😄👍🎊🎉🎊🎊🎵🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶 YYYEEEEAAAAAAA YOUR VERY OWN TECHNICS SL1200MK2!!!!!!!!!!💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
Dear Ian, thanks for time you've spent making these outstanding comparison. That is really important. Hopefully we will see more videos from you soon!!! Take care!
Brother, thank you🤗🤗🤗
Sending my best wishes to you, good sir. I am looking forward to a time when you are able to post videos regularly again. You've helped reignite my passion for all things vinyl again, and your energy is an inspiration to all of us in the community. Be well, be happy, and may your vinyl bring joy to your life!
Buddy thank you!... hope you've been well, and things stable and peaceful on your side....your family too, safe and healthy🌿🏡☘☘☘🎶🙏😄
I'll be posting soon! I'll be posting soon!!!
Thank you very much for sharing your journey with me and reigniting me along this journey too!!!!
Ian, I wanted you to know, that when you come back, we will all be here for you. You and your channel are worth the wait. Be safe.
Dearest Mike!!! :-D
Thank you for your extreme kindness for me... i feel very touched and encouraged to come back asap.... i can't because of current work, and also that many people have not been able to keep their jobs and livelihood, and even their loved ones, empathy has it that discussion of whether a cartridge or phonostage sounds better in bass/midrange, would be out of place in many people's situations in this time. I have earmarket since Dec last year, and procured some products for review. And i hope to come back soon and appear and see you guys again!
But don't worry! I am always around to chat with you dearest friends in the comments columns!!!!!!!!!!! :-D
May you and your family be well and happy, safe and healthy always,
~ ian.
Dear Ian. I hope that you and your family are well, I know that dreaded virus is very near to where you are. Keep safe my friend and take as much care as you possibly can.
Kind regards - Ron
Dear Brother Ron,
Yes, the virus has to be controlled. Tourism, a double edged sword here then. We experienced many China nationals visiting our country the two weeks before the Lunar Chinese New Year (25th Jan). (I am not a racist, and, I do not lament nor hate them) And many local Chinese going to China in late January and returning to Singapore.
Currently, daily, our government, and national infectious disease experts and team, are laying down daily close updates with all of us medical doctors and nurses, in hospitals, outpatient clinics, private and government. It is a race. Paramedics, support staff, radiographers, etc, are all severely exhausted. It is the gravest understatement I have ever made:
We are exhausted, depressed and our family lives are all affected due to the stress and logistical changes we have to make.
Even at 3:10am now, I'm working.
Thank you. Seeing your message 2 hours earlier made me enjoy some relief away from the job at hand, and I quickly liked and loved your comment.
Thank you Brother.
I deeply appreciate your love and kindness for me, my family and my fellow singaporeans.
HiViNyws channel Dear Ian, I’m so sorry to hear that you are exhausted due to the fight with the virus. I know that your strength and family will get you through. Let’s look forward to the months ahead when hopefully you will get time for some rest and perhaps a holiday. Keep fighting my friend, I am thinking about you all. Kindest regards - Ron
HiViNyws channel Dear Ian, we’re very concerned for you as a doctor in Singapore, holding back the floodgates so to speak. Please make sure you get proper rest, to avoid weakening your immune system, and possible mental mistakes that could expose yourself to infection. Keep fighting the good fight, but please protect yourself and your family too.
@@pmui2000 Brother Peter,
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you🤗🍀
Working now🤗🍀
@@HiViNywschannel Stay safe Ian!!!!! Wishing the best for you!
Thank you so much Ian for these invaluable videos and information.
Another awesome review, Ian! Thanks for doing that... I was hungry to see what your thoughts would be on the Fluance. Well done!
Ian,
Your devotion and passion are so very much appreciated. I am one of the founders of a small preamp company, and I have taken a lot of value from your videos to advise our clients who want maximum audio pleasure from minimal investment. Your reviews seem to always be correct, maybe because you prove your thoughts so clearly, step by step. Thank you, so very much.
-Andy
Dear Brother Andy, thank you very much for your gracing my humble efforts. I am humbled too that a founder of a hifi company would come by and write to me. I am humbled.
Thank you for your time my friend, and i believe your preamps will be well received with your devotion and honesty in work definitely (if not already :-D )!!!
Warmest Regards Mr Tebbe, and may you and your family be Safe, Well and Happy :-D,
~ ian.
@@HiViNywschannel Ian I hope all is well for you. I have a question for you, if you could email me I would appreciate it - it's just andytebbe@gmail.com. Thank you so much. Still loving your reviews and hope we will see more sometime when the world is a little closer to normal again!
Totally outstanding video from one of the most knowledgeable, and nicest honest people on UA-cam. Thank you very much for sharing your video Sir 👍 Tam.
Brother :-D !!! Lovely Todd and your CCCP watch !!!!!
My dear Moko and me sending our regards to your baby Todd!!!! Lovely!!!
ENjoy your beautiful Sunday my friend!!!!
Thank you for catching up! Warmest Regards!
~ Ian.
Thank you once again for a perfect and crystal clear review Ian!! Spending your own money and a lot of time on these turntables as a true enthousiast.. you can tell from the review :-) thanks!! 👏🏼
Dear Brother :-D Thank YOOOUUU!!! for your kind appreciation of my efforts....thank you, coz i really spent my own hard-earned monies to buy them for review. Alas, only a few stick on and gets my nod :-D but all for you guys and dearest friends!!!! WORTH IT!!!!!!!
It's great to see you back again!
Brother who sent me honey from Greece!!! My wife has finished using it in her cooking for the entire family regularly for the past months!!!! Thank YOU BRUDDER Makis!!!!!!!!!!
Warmest Regards, and may you and your family be well and happy always! :-D
~ ian.
So good to hear from you Ian! Its becoming pretty clear that the Rega P1 is the ideal entry level recommendation. Also nice to see Moko! I can tell that Moko brightens everybody's day. By the way I have had my new Spatial M3 Sapphires for close to 3 weeks now and I love them. Significant improvement over the previous model. They look beautiful and sound even better. They were a huge hit at the Capital Audiofest. Yesterday I played The Missing Link vol 2 direct to disc LP and the Les Brown and His Band of Renown direct to disc LP. Shocking really. That big bang produced a huge soundstage. Excellent dynamics without fatigue at high volume with all that brass.
Dear Buddy Black!!! HEEHEE *NEW* Spatial M3 *Sapphires* :-D !?!!!!!! WOWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!
I drool : "Shocking really. That big bang produced a huge soundstage. Excellent dynamics without fatigue at high volume with all that brass..... look beautiful and sound even better."
My word!!!! YOU MUST BE ENJOYING BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Christmas came early for you!!!!)
Brother, remember to help me send my regards to your dad, and with YOUR GRANDDAUGHTER CUDDLED AROUND BY ZOEY!!!!!
~ Moko, wifey and i.
Is it though? I guess if somebody never plans on upgrading the cartridge, the P1 is an ok choice. But the permanently set, "automatic" anti-skating means that any future cartridge upgrade could turn into a real PITA.
@@HiViNywschannel I must say I enjoy your reviews so much. They're the best I've seen out there for sure. One thing I'd add though is that (at least in Canada) the Planar 1 is no longer an entry-level turntable at all. Their prices range from 700-850$ now. For the P1. While the Fluance RT84 is 550$. If the Planar 1 is out of one's budget, what would you recommend is a good entry-level when comparing the Sony, Fluance, Carbon, etc.?
Really good review and comparison, Ian.
You're very brave taking this one on since the Fluance RT84 is a very popular deck. I knew what the results would be, but it should also be mentioned that Ian has a high resolution system that allows him to hear important differences that in a lesser system would probably go unnoticed.
Good to see you on my notifications, Ian 👍
Dear Buddy :-D.... great to see you again!!!!!! Hehheh!!! ENjoying your N carts as usual my friend!!!
But Brother, may i point out that :-D.... the sound that you guys hear here, are the result of the turntable-cartridge system picking out the signals, transferring to the Schiit Mani phonostage, and straight into the Schiit Jil ADC and onwards into my computer... and thus, the differences are not through my amplifier and speakers :-D but thank you for talking to me!!!
You have so much experience and I always respect what you have to say!!! You have been of much help to all of us here!!!!for so many years!!!.. and yes, thanks for helping your other U.K. friends here onto the ebay seller, getting their Nagaoka MP-110 for only GBP89!!!
Warmest Regards,
~ ian.
Glad to see you back! Great video...as usual.
Dear Buddy, thank you for your kind words and time for me!!!
Have a joyous time ahead this pre-festive period!!! :-D
See you soon, anytime my friend.
Best Regards :-D~
ANOTHER AWESOME VIDEO!!!! GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN !!!! HOPE EVERYTHING IS GOING GOOD FOR YOU AND FAMILY!! ONCE AGAIN AWESOME VIDEO!!!! THANK YOU!!
Hi Brother Dale!! Thank you too for catching up again!!! Hehheh!!!
Let's rock on Buddy!!! Vinyl analogue bliss, always.
Now I'm curious about getting a Rega for my next turntable. I own the RT-84, quite surprised by the results! Thank you so much for these informative videos! 😄
Dear Buddy :-D don't worry........take your time!!! enjoy your journey, as my older gurus tell me!!! :-D Let us all revel in our friendship and the warmth within us... music and equipment secondary!!!!
Thank you Brother!!!!!....for your time writing to me and chatting up!
Warmest Regards to you on a lovely Sunday!!!
~ ian.
@@HiViNywschannel Much appreciated! I will continue to enjoy the music. Looking forward to your next video! 🙂
Btw, I added the Mani preamp to my rig based on your recommendation and what a difference it has made from the built in one in my receiver!
@@inko123 You would be better off upgrading your RT84 to an acrylic table and eventually upgrading the cartridge.
Happy new Year friend Ian, to you, your wife., everybody around you!
Happy New Year!!! dear esteemed Buddy Andrea, and your group of talented musicians and artists around you too 😄🎶🎵🎶🎹🎹🎷🎙🥁🎉🎊🎉🎉 thank you for your kindness and friendship (from wifey, Moko, sons and parents here with me on New Year's dinner)...Thank YOU!
Great to find a review from you, this morning, Ian.
I always learn so much about equipment and more importantly, critical listening from you!
I also enjoyed seeing your family as you all explored Little India. I could almost smell the wonderful spices. I'll have to have Indian food for dinner tonight!
Thank you for brightening my morning, Ian!
Dear Buddy Mark!!!! How is your B&O TX and SL1200!?! STill doing duties at your home i believe :-D!!!!
Heeeheee.... some Indian curries my friend!?!! Sambar? Raitha?
:-D
@@HiViNywschannel Hello my friend! Yes, gotta have some good curry or Biryani tonight! Here in Kansas City, we don't have a "Little India", however being a center for large engineering firms and Telecom, we have a great number of Indian engineers, etc and therefore we have many great Indian restaurants and grocery stores.
Regarding the B&O tx-2 vs Technics/mp-150... That took a surprising twist. SoundSmith sent me a new SMMC3 and after living with the Technics/mp-150 for 3-4 weeks, I began the comparison.
At first, the SMMC3 sounded dull and muffled compared to the Technics/mp-150..it was "no-contest" and frankly, disappointing. Then it hit me. The SMMC3 cartridge has an output voltage that is less than half that if the mp-150. I was concentrating on definition, color, highs & lows so much, I didn't notice that the volume was much lower. The Magnepans 1.7's that I had gotten a couple weeks before do not sound good at low volumes....they sound "dull & muffled".
When I turned up the volume on the SMMC3 to match the sound level in the mp-150, the magic was unlocked! The SMMC3 sounded fantastic and to my (old) ears, it gave the mp-150 a good run for the money...sounding at least as good in all respects.
Then it came down to comparing my experience with the two tt's.
Technics:
Beautiful, function over form, classic. Compatible with many, many cartridges.
Suspension, surprisingly inferior to B&O. A person or dog walking across room could make the needle skip. It had some trouble tracking on some rare lp's that had oddly shallow grooves. Also, for reasons unknown to me, I needed to use my zerostat to remove a fair amount of static from every LP that I played.
B&O tx-2:
Beautiful, Form over function...or so it appears, but it is quite solid. A classic, B&O stylized design.
Only one source for cartridges, although I have a mid-range SMMC3. SoundSmith tells me that the SMMC2 is a huge step-up in sound quality, so there is an upgrade path.
Suspension: Lightweight platter gave me doubts, but the suspension is incredible. My two big boxers can wrestle right next to the tt and no skipping occurs. People don't have to tread lightly when a record is playing.
Tracking: never a problem, not even on lp's that caused problems for the Technics. Perhaps being tangential gave it an advantage.
Static: I'm back to almost never needing to used the zerostat.
The tx-2 also is safer to use for this old guy...cue-up/down and right-left movement is all done with the control of servo-motors... So I don't have to worry about damaging a record if I'm tired or not paying close attention.
I'm sure you guessed by now, but with the cartridges sounding almost the same to me, it came down to turntable functionality and the B&O won out. It will remain as my full-time turntable.
I'll stop now since I've already written a novel.
Best regards to you and your family!
Hello Ian, Thank you for another fantastic shootout video. Both TT's are far lower than what Im looking for now but great advise for entry level TT. Keep up the great work my friend. I hope you and the family are well and I wish you blessed, peaceful and wonderful holidays.
Brother, thank you too for your kind words and wishes for my family!!👋😄🙏
May you enjoy your vinyl'ing journey no matter what price bracket you're shopping at!!!💪🤗✌😄🎶🎵🎶🎶🎶thank you for your time! See you soon, anytime!
Woooooohooooo morning brother Ian ☕️👋🏻 just in time to share a cup of coffee w you.....be back- Lis
Love the beginning with the unwrapping man you are a true equipment detective, nothing gets by you 🎶👌🏻
Every spec has been brought out to bare witness in comparing the two.....whoa the dust covering too 😱
Great information as always, the last bit about the tonearm great points...MOKO! 🐶Hi to the family, wow the colors just pop out, thanks for taking us along hope all has been going well for you and the fam.....take care and be well- Lis (sis) 🙂
Dear Sis Lis :-D than you!!! I am enjoying tea now with my mum and wifey at the Singapore Changi Airport now... just chilling out here for dinner, tea/coffee and to launch this video :-D... thank you Sister for your constant love and friendship.
Hugs from us :-D
Keep on cycling and swimming!
~ ian.
HiViNyws channel thank you for the great reviews.....👏🏻🙌🏻 I have a younger friend who wants to start buying vinyl, he has two small girls and he is a teacher( they don’t get paid what they should) so I’m going to pass this info on to him, he will have to frugal w his money so I think this would be a nice price range for them or just the information alone will help him decide....love to all
Hi Ian. Hope that you and your family are staying safe and getting used to the new normal. I'm from Canada and visited your beautiful country in early January this year. I watched your unbiased comparison review since I was seriously considering buying the Fluance RT-85. Now I am looking at the Rega P2 instead of the P1 since it has a heavier plinith, glass platter and an one piece tonearm (P1 has a two piece tonearem). Also P1 and P2 use the same cartridge. I would like to hear your thoughts on this.
Cheers, Tom
Happy new year HiViNyws! Cheers to this new decade. Wishing you and your loved ones a wonderful 2020.
Dear Eli, thank you so much for coming back to see me!
I wish for you and your family and friends a fruitful and refreshing 2020 too🎉🎊🎉😄👍👍👍👍See you Buddy!!!!!
Ian, so nice to see a new video. It’s been a while. Excellent work as always. The differences you described were easy to hear over UA-cam. Love the scenery at the end.
Brother Don :-D who mentioned me on Steve Guttenberg's youtube video... thank you very much for coming back to see me again!!! :-D... thank you for easily hearing the differences too!!!
HOpe you are enjoying your lead-up pre-festive season and may you score some great buys at Black Friday!!!!
~ ian :-D
Ian, do you have any plans to review the Schiit Sol? Seems like a great way to start back up after a year away.
Ian "Sherlock" Holmes 🔍🙂
Nice shootout again, thank you. 👍
I love your family trips even when there is nothing analog in sight 🤭😎
Kim says:" hi Moko "
Dearest Buddy and Baby Kim :-D... thank you for coming to see me an old friend, and baby Mokochan too!!!
ENJOY YOUR SL1200MK7 :-D !!!!! $900? hehhheh!!! Christmas came early!!! and probably you would be scoring some great buys at black friday :-D!!!!!
Warmest Regards on this pre-festive period, and send my regards to your lovely family cuddling around Kim :-D,
~ Moko, wifey and i from singapore.
YES! You're back! Can't wait to sit down and watch your latest review. Welcome back my friend! Cheers!
Dear Buddy :-D !!! How is your SOL + MP-200!?!!!!
Nanu! :-D
@@HiViNywschannel I can't say enough good things about the MP-200, but the Sol... let's just say that the jury is still out on this one. I think I'm going to keep it, but I haven't made my final decision yet. Schiit has been exceptionally good about addressing all of the issues with this product, but it's shocking that a company known for such outstanding products could have let the Sol ever leave the factory floor. I can give you more details if you are interested. Good to hear from you again my friend. Cheers!
Dear Brother Frank... if you are free, i would kindly hear from you every thing you find unideal about the Sol.
As usual, private and confidential.
Email me at hivinyws@gmail.com my friend :-D
Thank you!!!
@@HiViNywschannel Email sent. Cheers!
Very useful info on the manufacturing origins of these current tables, man. Its like a when a Kenmore Washer was a Whirlpool back in the day. Uncanny is the word for the shared parts and packing materials.
I would be really interested in a tour showing your personal hifi setup or even a comparison between your analogue system and the equipment you have to test. Might not be fair as I guess you put some money into it but at least we know what we are missing 😃
Brother :-D thank you for your kind suggestions again!!! Hehheh...i think i would stick to listing the equipment on the bottom corner of each video description :-D... hope you agree too :-D
Warmest Regards and, may you and your family have a good warm and lovely vinyl'ing time at home in the new year 2020!!!! :-D See you anytime my friend!
~ ian.
Great review, although the P1 continues to shine through for us vinyl aficionados. The fluance and their started packages with speakers is a good beginner setup for anyone getting into vinyls or a holiday gift. Btw, what kind of speakers are you using?
Hi Brother!! Thank you for catching up!!
I did a match up of two vinyl entry level systems a while ago : a Rega P1 fronted one, versus a ProJect one... I hope they would come in useful for most buddies too!
Warmest Regards,
~ ian.
@@HiViNywschannel Good Morning Brethren, thank you for replying back to me. I appreciate it. I did see that video with the RSE/RSS... but I was wondering about your personal speakers.
Good to have you back, Ian.
I have been waiting for what seems like ages for new content. Thanks a lot.
Dear Steven :-D...hehheh,..sorry sorry!!! I am so happy to hear what you said!!! :-D... very honoured to be here for you guys and lovely friends again!!!
Hope you have been doing well too!!...and may you enjoy some lovely vinyl records this pre-festive period!!! :-D shopping for some gear or records too perhaps :-D !!!
~ ian.
@@HiViNywschannel Hi Ian, thank you very much for the response. Your videos have been the driving force in my vinyl adventure. Starting off earlier this year, with a Rega RP1 and we have now moved onto a 1994 Rega P3 with a Nagaoka Mp150, based on your wonderful reviews. Next up a Schiit Mani, when they become available. Thanks again for your wonderful content. I have even found myself listening to clean bandit now 😄
Great review and Welcome back my friend, you have been missed. I finally was able to get a new copy of Doug Macleod “There’s a Time” record, it was re pressed recently. Cheers!
Dear Buddy Jorge :-D hehheh!!! You are back too!!! and now you have found your "There's A Time" record!!!! oooooh....enjoy enjoy!!!!! ENJOY YOUR *TWO* SCHIIT MANIs!!!!!!
Hi Ian, I recently found out that Michael Fremer from Analog Planet has measured the tonearm of the RT8x series to have an effective mass of an enormous 28.2 g! This explains why the 2M Blue sounds quite dead on this turntable, as the 2M series (with their OM heritage) benefit a lot from low to low-mid mass arms (I would recommend nothing heavier than a Rega arm, or a Technics arm with stock headshell). Higher effective masses (15 g and more) literally smother the liveliness of the 2M cartridges. Again a turntable builder did not get the basics right, by a crass mismatch of arm and cartridge.
Great review Ian! You always give such a detailed look at these things! Much appreciated my friend! I actually own an RT 81 and a Project Debut Carbon and I have definitely noticed much clearer sound from the Debut...I eventually want to upgrade to a really nice TT, a Technics SL-1200 is what I have had my eye on for quite some time now...(One Day!) but for now I'll just enjoy what I have. As always, I always enjoy your videos and to get a peek into what's going on over on your side of the world! Little India looks like a very cool place! So colorful!
Dear Buddy :-D happy to have your kind time again!!! Yes my friend, a Technics SL1200Mk2/3/3D/5 will be lovely!
Thank you to you on behalf of all my Indian friends in Singapore :-D!!!
Very kind of you Buddy!!!!
Warmest Regards,
~ ian.
Lovely to see another review Ian. I have been waiting for your video and enjoyed it very much.
Interesting analysis as always 🙂
Again wonderful to see your city and culture. Happy Diwali ♥️ Peace and love to your family you can see the bright colours bringing cheer to people's hearts 👍
Dear Brother David :-D! !!!! Happy to see you again!!! Thank you for your inputs to us, and fellow friends this past year, regularly!!! Thank you very much!!!! ..and this time, well wishes for the Indian population of Singapore!!! They are an integral part of us.... very, very colourful culture and...gulp... amazing curries!!!....
Warmest Regards,
~ ian.
1) With the US import duties on MIC goods, lots of Chinese companies are beginning to route their final assembly to Taiwan to side-step these duties.
2) Businesses (like Audio Technica) with significant interests in the PRC would be obliged to their shareholders to toe the CCP OB markers and avoid mentioning the 3Ts, X and HK (i.e. Tibet, Taiwan, Tiananmen, Xinjiang and Hong Kong) to avoid running afoul of the CCP and its 5cent brigade.
Dear Brother Jochi :-D great to see you!!! Thank you so much for sharing with us!!! Now we know better!!!!
Brother, thank you for taking time out to write to me, succinctly and clearly. Thank you.
Warmest Regards and may you and your family have a lovely Sunday!!
~ ian.
@@HiViNywschannel You're a legend, Ian! Keep up with the great independent reviews!
Dear Sir, thank you for your kindest support and encouragement!
We are in this altogether :-D to enjoy and promote vinyl analogue music artform.
:-D :-D :-D See you my friend!!! Best Regards!
Ah makes total sense. Trump🏄🏻♀️.
Another great review, Ian! It's interesting to see the huge impact that tonearms have on turntable performance. People that claim that all turntables sound the same should be forced to watch this video:)
And YES BRother!!! ENJOY YOUR MP-200 PLUS MOFI ULTRADECK!!!!! :-D thank you for coming by again to lend me your great support! Hehheh...yes tonearm is VERY important.... you have one great one there!!!
~ ian.
Hello Ian superb review this is why you are the king of the entry level turntable reviews
And dearest esteemed VC pioneer, Mr Ron :-D !!! Thank you for coming to see me, an old friend!!!!!
Great to see you spreading the warmth, and...ENJOY YOUR BST SANTANA 45RPM !!!
Warmest Regards, and may you and your familly enjoy a great pre-festive period, and score some great black friday items!
~ ian.
Greetings and thank-you Ian for all the kindness and joy you share. 👍🤗
Last week I happened upon your YT channel for the 1st time and was immediately inspired by your passion and dedication to providing us with honest and unbiased opinions on all things analogue.
I had visited some other channels before finding yours but for me it was readily apparent Brother Ian, you are different. You do all of this, not for recognition, financial benefit or gain but for the love and for the analogue community as a whole.
As a result and during this time of Worldwide uncertainty Ian you have inspired me to commence my own analogue journey to find joy and simplicity in the music.
I have just purchased a pair of Klipsch RP 6000f and a Schitt Mani. The Klipsch pair were 1/2 price so I could pass them up but the Mani was a no-brainer after all your informative reviews but I am unable to find any advise on what amplifier to pair with the RP 6000f's. I would generally be listening to anything from classics like Fleetwood Mac and Paul Simon to Amy Winehouse, Coldplay, the Weeknd and beyond.
I know how busy you are but if you get some spare time I would love your recommendations for the best amplifier to pair with the Klipsch for not too much more than $750 US.
Also, today I advised by a reputable Hifi establishment in Australia today that a SL 1200 MK4 or MK5 are DJ Decks and simply do not produce good quality sound. According to them I should look at a Rega P3 however I am still actively seeking the Technics SL 1200 MK4 OR 5. 👍👌😁 (With MP 110 Cart)
Wishing you and your family good health and happiness!
Gratitude for all your help to date. Very much looking forward to a time when you can upload on a more regular basis.
Christian in Australia. ✌
I bought the Fluance for several reasons, auto-stop,faster cartridge changes, anti-skate and can change speed on the fly without pulling the platter, I highly enjoyed the review however! I think some break-in of the cartridge may have made the comparison better.
Thank you Buddy Dan for coming by catching up with me👋😄👋...
For sure but to me the p1 sounded thin
Also different cartridges is like apples and carrots
P1 is legendary value for the money. I would love to see you test the Schiit SOL turntable =)
Brother...yes it is proving itself to be legendary now...i am myself, amazed!!!!!!!! :-D
Warmest Regards, and yes, i am waiting for the Schiit guys to ready up the 230V 50Hz version for the market! We look forward!!!
Thank you for your time my friend for writing in to me!!!
~ ian.
The Schiit is 799.00 and appears to be a major PITA to set up. Perhaps it is worth the money and time. The Mani preamp is a fantastic unit. I would have to wonder, however, if the SOL is worth 300 more than the Rega P1.
@@keithling417 they are redesigning the SOL right now to make it more user friendly. You can't purchase it right now. But yes I wonder about its price to performance. Schiit has a good reputation at delivering good results at reasonable prices.
Wow it's been awhile since seeing a video. Great review. Thank you for doing this video. Cheers my friend
Hi Brother Mark :-D hehheh!! Thank you for coming to see an old friend in me!!! Happy to see you lively and chatting up with so many of us on your channel, and with your U-Turn give away for Christmas!
Warmest Regards my friend, and may you enjoy a great pre-festive period and score some great ones at black friday!!!
~ ian.
Magnificent reporting, Ian! I got to get me a rega!I really enjoy this channel good buddy!
Brudder :-D thank you for catching up!!! Thank you for producing that video on phono preamps too!!! Great effort!!!and always regularly sharing with us your vinyl journey!!!! :-D Warmest Regards my friend, and may you always find energy to share with us more :-D look forward to more lovely episodes from you,~
~ ian.
Ian, you are a disruptive force in the UA-cam community!!!!!! Your reviews are professional and incisive. The other strong point of your reviews is that you utilize a variety of music for your testing, which is a great move.
Dear Buddy Javier!! Thank you for writing to me!!!! I am very happy to have received your kind support for my efforts.... I just want to help. I believe all of us will do the same for one another.
Warmest Regards to you and your family!!!..and may you enjoy your vinyl'ing journey always!!!
~ ian.
I wonder how you get rid of the fluance now 😂 thanks for another unbiased honest review though.
Dear Buddy Elderin!!!!! Guten Tag!!! You are right, "how am i going to get rid of it?"
Well....i sold it off to somebody for only 40 Euros. I can't bring myself to sell it above 40 Euros.
And...enjoy your SFs+S3000+Ansuz!
Warmest Regards,
~ ian.
@@HiViNywschannel when I first saw the title, I thought "Flatulence". Turns out, I was right! :(
Dear Buddy from California :-D...hope you are enjoying a lovely Spring time :-D!!! and your NASA Teflon caps as usual!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Was beginning to wonder what happened to you! Anyway this new informative review was a real pleasure to watch. Your passion and enthusiasm for all things vinyl clearly has not diminished!
Brudder :-D!!!! Enjoying your MP-200 heh!!!! Thank you, thank you,...for coming back to see an old friend in me... sorry for my recent absence...as my wife and i have been busy nursing our daughter Moko back to health and functionality... :-D
THank you so much for your time and encouragement!!! Has been more than a year by now! Thank you for your friendship Buddy!!!!
Warmest Regards!...and may you enjoy a great lead-up in this pre-festive season!!! My regards to your family too!
~ ian.
@@HiViNywschannel Thank you Ian, and warm regards to your family as well. Looking forward to your next informative presentation!
Greetings from Spain, best wishes to you and your family. Thank you very much for your fight against the virus. And thanks for the hours of valuable information. You are the reason I have listened to music again. Thank you.
I don't quite understand those modern vertually weightless platters. In the good old times even any $150 TT's platter weighted at least 1.5-2 kg. That's why old belt-driven Technics TTs had a Wow and flatter of 0.045% and not 0.13% like this Fluance RT84.
Brother... you are right... :-D
Great to see you again my friend!!!!!
Thank you for saying it out loud!!!!!
Warmest Regards and may you have a lovely Sunday!!!
~ ian.
I miss youre vids hope you and youre family are doing o.k
Dear Buddy... great to see you again :-)...
i will be back soon....and thank you very much for your kindness and friendship, taking time out to see me again.
Yours,
~ ian.
Where is our friend Ian ? It's been a few years since we've heard from you my friend I picked up a MoFi Ultradeck based on your review of the Studiodeck and love it. Thanks for all the reviews over the years and would love nothing more than to see tou return with more UA-cam videos on audiophile gear! My fingers are crossed and hipeful to see you return
Ian Your Reviews as usual so great! 👍👍👍👏👏
Dear Buddy Andres :-D great to see you again...and sorry I am still waiting for the Sol to be available in 230V 50Hz :-D... ENJOY YOUR MP-110 AND MANI AND your LATEST Yamaha S501!!! Hehheh!!!!
Warmest Regards and may you have a good pre-festive period and reap fruitful black friday sales :-D !!!
~ ian.
...Ian not apologies at all 👍 😁😁😁 ....It seams that Shiit Audio is having trouble with the Sol,Anyway ..... I recently bought the Schiit Freya+ and the Aegir and the Loki EQ..but unfortunately for now I’m still using my Klipsch which I like it but is a must thing to be upgrade in the future😏!
Thank you! best for You and your Family!
@@amd3449 heh WOW👋😄👍👍👍👍Freya+!!!and AEGIR!!!!!! Have FUN listening your way and rounding up the year💪😄👍👍🥃🌲🍃🎶🎵🎶🎶...hehheh!!!! LOKI EQ...and...speakers😍😍😍
Wow, just finished watching the video. This demonstration really flies in the face of all those "audio experts" that say the cartridge is the most important part of the TT and that the TT doesn't influence the sound that much (within the same class). I was going to ask why you didn't use the M2 Blue on both decks, but I see you were handicapping the P1 intentionally to expose the difference between the performance and capabilities of the TTs. Outstanding work Ian, as always. I REALLY enjoyed the extra family video at the end. I think you should show more of your "home town". It's beautiful. Take care my friend. Cheers! 😁👍
Brother Frank, i have pointed many to your sharp and accurate comment.
Thank you :-D !!!
Thank you!!!
Thank YYOOOUUU!!!!!!!!!
One last point, I went to the New York Audio Show and most demo’d music was generic and un engaging.
Hi Javier :-D again!!! Wooopps... is that so?... erhem.
I think we common folks know better ;-D !!!!!
Great review Ian, it was very interesting to see the clear difference in performance between the tone arms.
Great to see you again after a couple of months!!! Thank you my friend for gracing this effort from a friend! :-D
See you soon and warmest regards Buddy Michael!!
~ ian.
Ian hope you and your family are well,stay strong and look i forward to your next review.The world is a crazy place at the moment but i am sure you will get through this and i send you strength and encouragement.
Dearest Stephen :-)...
Thank you very much for coming to see me.... clinical work hasn't been kind to me and my colleagues in the past few months, and whenever we have time, we have to rest well. I am very touched to hear your message to me Brother.
I also wish for you and your family, safety and health, ALWAYS, and be well and happy.
We hope to see some new equipement reviews soon when things resume more to normality and prosperity, people's spirits and livelihoods are better... :-D
~ ian.
I have the Fluance RT-84 and I swapped out the Ortofon 2m Blue cartridge for a Nagaoka MP-200 paired with the Schiitt Mani and it is a completely different turntable. Sounds wonderful.. I wish you could buy the Fluance RT-84 and RT-85 without a cartridge which would be a great purchase.. would like you to swap the Ortofon 2m blue and add the MP-200 (or 110, 150) and re do the comparison with the Rega P1..
Have you noticed any play in your tonearm or it binding?
@@johnsweda2999 yes I have. I have contacted Fluance and I am awaiting an RMA from them. A bit frustrating
@@dwfineart Yeah that's the Weakest Link in the table better off trying to get a better replacement maybe a Rega or moth are quite cheap, I found the specifications for it effective tonearm length 224mm overhang 19.2mm mass is quite heavy at 28.2 grams doesn't give me the arm board hole, you need a arm board that will fit the hole, you could make the hole lot bigger and attach the correct arm board. Plenty of second-hand Rega tonearms on eBay but you have to be careful buying second-hand arm's, delicate piece of kit and you don't know what you're getting if you can return it might be worth your while for $100.
Let us know how the new arm goes there sending you, are you sending the old one back!! You could adjusted yourself
I'm doing the same upgrade for my RT-85, can't wait to get it the cartridge and headshell tomorrow! What was the biggest change you heard in the sound?
@@inko123 well I returned my RT-84T for a refund. Even with the mp-200 cart I was getting some fluttering and noise that I believe is coming from the tonearm as others have seen and heard. I decided to put the mp-200 cartridge on my Denon DP-62L for now. I'm really concerned with the build quality for newer turntables. I start to zero in on one and then find the threads or videos of horror stories. I'm going to save my money for now and if I decide to buy a newer turntable I'm going to invest more money in a superior product such as VPI etc
....Thank you Ian !! You always showing us happiness!!
...Best wishes for You and all your family.
😁👋🇨🇦🕺
Dear Buddy👋🤗🙏thank you too for coming by saying hi and your well wishes!
Warmest Regards to you and your family and friends too. Stay safe. Hand hygiene and reduce mingling. Stay healthy my friend.✌💪😄🏋️♂️🌈🎶🎵🎶🎶
Welcome back Ian !! Have a nice day, from Phil in Florida
Dear Buddy Phil :-D , thank you too for coming back to see me!....and regularly posting to me and, also helping fellow friends in their messages/queries for me! Warmest Regards to you and your family & friends in Florida :-D
Have a lovely time rounding up the year, and a joyous festive period :-D,
~ ian.
Another great review. Thanh you for your hard work
Hi Buddy :-D ! Thank you too for your time catching up!!!
Have a wonderful vinyl'ing time ahead...may we all have... :-D!!!
Hope you score some great buys next Friday, and have a lovely pre-festive season these few weeks!!!
Warmest Regards,
~ ian.
Hey Ian! Just dropping in like the rest to say a quick hello and to wish all the health and happiness possible to you and yours during this crazy and uncertain time. I know that I am not alone that when I say rewatching your videos is a wonderful escape for so many of us, and gives us some peace and comfort. Know that you are very appreciated!
Also, I am the fellow who recently picked up an MP-200 and wasn’t loving it. Turns out it was an issue with my preamp! Since switching to the onboard phonostage in my 1971 Marantz 2245, it sounds *amazing*! I can’t wait to pick up a Mani or possibly even a Moon 110LP (I have heard it bests the Mani, and hopefully one day you can review!)
HEY IAN!!!!! We've missed you buddy! Thank you so much for doing this review. I have been waiting to hear a review of the Fluance 84 and 85 that goes as deep as yours. Literally asked out loud for you to do this months ago. And the Rega is the perfect table to shoot out with. I think a lot of folks (including myself) were thinking that if they could get the features of the 84 and drop a better cart on it, we could get what we were chasing cheap. Clearly stating that dropping a better cart won't fix tone arm issues was the $1000 gift in this review. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. Shopping for my P3 now. Happy Holidays!
Yes Buddy!!! Thank you for catching up!!!! How are you?😄🙏
Hehheh...yes.... IF one were to try to do what you said some theorize would work/be a good deal : getting a Fluance RT and fixing on a more expensive/better performing cartridge, ...yes this video would help all of us!!! Us, because I myself thought so too!beforehand!!!😄👌but.... facts, are facts, and results and hands on, show that it might as well be a purchase of the AT-LPW30TK. And even then, the performance would be, sad to say, highly un-ideal.
Rega P3, the sweetest spot into the Rega lineup i realize! Much much much to improvise and upgrade too!....just like a Mazda MX-5!💪😄👍!!!! It will keep us happy for many, many years. I'm keeping my P3 too after buying it for review since 2 years ago A keeper, fun, quality, well-engineered deck.
Best Regards my friend and, thank you for spending time with me again!💪😄👋👋👋👋have fun!!!💪💪💪🎶🎵🎶🎶🎶
Happy new year to you and your family, nice review!
Dear Buddy Fumitoshi👋😄... happy 2020 to you and your family too...
May you all be well and happy my friends 🤗🙏🤗and enjoy vinyl analogue music always🎶🎵🎶🎶
A lot of these new turntables make me happy that I’ve stuck with my Technics SL1210MK2. It’s nice to see you making videos again!
OH YES.
Definitely :-D !!!!
STICK with our old stalwart, the Technics SL1200/1210s!!!!!!!!!
Glad to see you catch up my friend!!! Thank you for your time!!
HI Ian.
Best wishes from Texas and hope and pray you and your family is doing well through these crazy times.
Stay healthy!!😊
Brother Cabrera, do take care and stay safe too. Stay vigilant, and stay home. Cook your own food. Have more family time, and you and your whole family will be safe and secure.
Do the right things. Ignore what the cavalier and gungho people are telling you to throw caution to the wind.
It is your life, not theirs.
Warmest Regards Brother🤗🍀💪
Hi Ian, its good to see your videos again!! Been waiting..... Great video as always!! ;-)
Dear Brother Daryl, thank you so much for catching up!!! Hope you are enjoying your DK Live in Paris much along with your MP-110 AND MANI super combo!!!!!!! :-D
Hope to see you around...if you see me blur blur walking around in Adelphi, or Funan basement one waiting for Ah Gan Guo Kui / LiHo, just tap on me hor....
Cool Regards my friend!!!
~ ian.
@@HiViNywschannel Hi Bro, well said on your comments, well IMO, objective is to enjoy ANALOG MUSIC!!!!
See you my friend :-D have a cool evening!...
Another great video Ian, thanks for sharing. Loved the visit to the Little India precinct of Singapore.
Dear Brother Paul, thank you for your time coming to see an old friend in me... we have been catching up since two years ago... thank you my friend.
My warmest regards to you and your family, hopefully cuddled around your super Mani in the U.K.
~ ian :-D
Always enjoy your reviews. I hope you can compare these turntables with the same model cartridges. Keep up the good work.
Dear Kenneth!! Thank you for your feedback and very kind words of support for me. Thank you Brother in -Vinyl!!! :-D
Your the best. So glad I discovered your channel. 🙂
Dear Buddy :-) thank you for your friendship and time writing to me!
Always refreshing to watch your honest and valuable shootouts Ian! Thanks for continued great viewing. Not sure if you've had a chance to check your emails but i sent you an email a week or so ago. Hope you're well my friend. Cheers.
As a guy new to the world of TTs, and wanting to find the best bang for buck, I'm finding your videos invaluable. Thank you.
Hope all is well Ian with you and the family.
Miss your channel and great reviews. I’m here chillin with ZepIV on vinyl of course.
Hehhehheh....you and your ZepIV 👍👍👍😄🎶🎵🎶🎶🎶🎶enjoy your me moment and all that rock and nuanced dynamics at home now Brother Lawrence🏡🍀🍀🍀
Hi Ian,
I just wanted to tell you that on paper I thought this will be the turntable of my dreams at a crazy price. I ordered it after seeing the endless praise on YT. Then I saw your clip (just after ordering!). At first I was a bit sceptical and even slightly mad at you for shattering my dream- how dare you defy the countless youtube positive reviews?. The next morning I cancelled my order. I then dug deeper in your channel and bought myself a Rega Planar 3. Thank you Ian!! I am in love with this turntable, thanks for saving me from making a foolish decision! Greetings from Israel.
I just discovered your channel here in Montreal Canada and think you are amazing! I cannot get enough of your reviews and that you actually state a preference! I love it
I hope you get back to normal soon over there and will be looking out for more of your videos!
PS I dont have an sl 1200 yet but I do have a Sony PS-X70. A nice heavy direct drive with a nice arm too!
All the best from Canada
Dear Buddy in 🇨🇦🤗!!!
Thank you for coming by so kindly and taking time to write to me chat with me!
First of all, I hope you and your family are safe and healthy, well and happy🙏💚🏡🍀🤗🤗🤗🤗
Secondly, brother, I am only happy to be of service to you friends.
Thank you for the friendship Buddy John!!!!
@@HiViNywschannel No problem my friend. Be good.
PS - I also love the Avid TT. You have good taste in equipment.
John
@@johnkritikos3247 Brother, thank you for your kind words and support. Yes, our avids are very well made, and devoid of marketing hype, payments to bribe reviewers, payments for advertisements.
Usually these are the products that will actually perform well and punch above their prices🤗 we work hard, don't we. We can't waste money.🤝we march on.
HiViNyws channel that’s why I like your channel. And it seems a lot of other people do too!
Be good!
@@johnkritikos3247 🤝🤝🤝
Big love for your reviews, this is the best audio channel online, by far.
Please can we have a review on the Buchardt s400 speakers, we’re dying to hear what you think.
Hi Buddy!! Thank you for catching up!!! WOW The Buchardt S400.... gosh... i would love to hear them out...but for the time being, we rely on our Digital Stereophony and Z Reviews brothers!!!!! I am humbled by your trust in me to have a say in this, thank you very much my friend!
Warmest Regards, and have a lovely Sunday resting with hifi and vinyl information and music!!! :-D
~ ian.
Hello Ian, Hope you're safe and well. I check out your page every so often for any update from your home. Since you last posted I moved from a Sumiko Blue Point Special EVO III which I had been using for many years (Because it's a moving coil, I'd replace the cartridge whenever the stylus wore out). I decided to try their new line of Moving Magnet cartridges and so I purchased the Amethyst. It's taken some time to break it in but so far I am happy with this purchase. It has a line contact stylus. I've found very few reviews for this cartridge. I figured that was because of the pandemic we are all suffering through. I hope that you are able to review this cartridge at some point in the future. I know I'm not alone in saying that I miss watching your well thought out reviews. Thank you again for your efforts.
Hello from East Texas. Just wanted to thank you for doing this video. I've been a little suspicious of Fluance ever since they started showing up all over the UA-cam vinyl community. I've linked this video on several of the Fluance reviews out there.
Thanks again.
Great video as always Ian . Glad you and your family are doing well my friend 💯
Best Regards Dana
Brother, may you and your family have a lovely 2020 too :-D !!!
Yours,
~ ian.
I came here to ask a question, but reading Mr. Kramer's comment made me realize you are a health worker! I did not know that and I have been enjoying your videos for a long time. I already admired your dedication to the hobby but I am now even more impressed by your dedication to humanity. Please accept my wishes for you and your family to stay healthy until the end of this pandemic. You are a very steady man!
Dear Vinyl Buddy!🤗🤗🤗thank you for coming by and saying hi to me. I'm very touched by your time taken to write to me and your friendship!!!
Brother, keep safe, stay vigilant!... you and your family, have my best regard to be well and happy too!🙏🌱💚🏡🍀🍀🍀 I do spin some vinyl records whenever I'm home to rest and recover. We all march on my friend🍀🍀🍀
Dear Ian, wishing you and your family a belated happy Christmas and my very best wishes for the coming New Year. Very much looking forward to your next video.
Kind regards - Ron
Dear Brother Ron👋🤗!!! Thank you for coming by and sending your very kind wishes!... I hereby wish for you and your family too, happy holidays and a lovely 2020 to come!!!💪😄👍🎉🎊🎉🎉🎉🎶🎵🎶🎶see you Buddy!!!
Be happy to hear from u again!
Dear Ian.
I have known your channel a short time ago, since although I am a vinyl enthusiast I have problems with English so I usually consult channels in Spanish.
I have to tell you that, despite the difficulties, it is the best vinyl channel I have ever seen. You help us a lot to people who do not have so many resources or technical knowledge and you do it selflessly.
Also I have learned that you are a doctor and you are fighting against Covid-19, a very hard work these days. I also have health relatives and I know what that fight is. My appreciation for your work.
I hope that one day I have the opportunity to do a review of the iFi Micro iPhono3 phonostage that is fighting to relegate the Rega Aria since I trust you more than any other enthusiast in the world of vinyl.
Greetings from Almería (Spain).
Dear Buddy from Almería :-D thank you for your very kind regards and message to me... i do hope you and your fellow Spanish countrymen and women are strong and able to withstand the unkind conditions too brought by the pandemic. I wish you all well. I love to watch Viktor Larkhill too....and see Spain and all around too :-D
Warmest Regards to you and your family,
may you all be well and happy,
~ ian.
Thanks again for all the reviews and keep up the great work! What is your recording setup, and do you have any tricks/tips for any of us that would like to repeat these tests on our own rig?
Ouch! I wish this video existed earlier. I remember I asked you about the Fluance turntables a while ago. I wanted one so bad I bought one at a trip I made to the US. I have the RT83 with acrylic platter and 2m red cartridge.
I can't complain, but I wasn't expecting the P1 to be so different.
The servo motor, the exchangeble cartridge mount, and automatic speed change I thought were better value compared to the P1.
Oh well. I'm still enjoying the Fluance turntable. It's good to learn more from experts like you!
Thanks for the review!
Dear Buddy Ariel :-D just take your time and enjoy your journey. most important is the friendship we make between likeminded vinyl'ists :-D !!!! Friendship first, music second, equipment third of course :-D!!!
Warmest Regards and thank you for your kind time coming to see me again my friend!!!
~ ian.
Hi brother ian , miss you and will be glad to have you back! Take care!
Definitely seems like the Rega P1 is the next turntable to buy. Thanks a lot for the review and comparisons. This has really helped me. 🙂
Dear Buddy Ben :-D still hope you manage to snatch a used SL1200Mk2/3/3D/5 :-D!!! But of course, the P1 is proving itself a legendary buy if one were to buy new, and enjoy dealer support locally :-D from their Rega retailers.
Dealer support is very important too :-D!
Best Regards Buddy, and enjoy your journey always!
~ ian.
HiViNyws channel unfortunately I haven’t managed to score an SL-1200 yet Ian. At this point, I’m saving up for a new pair of speakers, then I’m going upgrade my amplifier and go back to a traditional 2ch HiFi. Once I have done that, I’m gonna go back down in the chain and upgrade my turntable, and get a better CD transport, DAC and Bluetooth receiver, just to cover all bases with my audio. It’s gonna be a long journey, but I will most definitely get there in the end!
Greeting from Bermuda, on a short holiday break from Canada, was seriously considering a Fluance to replace a vintage Dual turntable I have now. I will keep looking not the review I hoped for. Thanks Ian for doing this.
Brother!!! Keep your vintage Dual!!!! :-D!!!! Thank you for catching up with me from your lovely holiday spot in Bermuda!!! ENJOY!!!!!!
Awesome review as always, Ian! Truly appreciate your going out of your way to purchase one of these Fluance tables. I have owned my RT-85 (walnut) for almost a year and truly enjoy it. Now, maybe time for a swap to Nagaoka MP-200 cart / needle?
Dear Brother Michael! Thank you for catching up again so soon, just like the video i had released 3 months ago on the AT-LPW40WN vs ProJect Essential 3! Thank you for your kindest time again.
Brother, you would always cherish your RT85 because your wife bought it for you for Christmas...always treasure that i know you will!!! Thank you Mrs Ratledge :-D !!!!!!! You are very kind and understanding for your husband!
Warmest Regards to you both and may both of you have a joyous pre-festive period and some fruitful reaps at black friday :-D
~ ian.,