Splitting Bass for FX Processing in REAPER

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  • Опубліковано 29 сер 2024

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  • @holmesoffice5231
    @holmesoffice5231 2 роки тому +10

    Tried this straight away on a rather plodding song and immediately got a much brighter bass presence in the mix. Thanks again Kenny!

    • @aklosabbaothofficial
      @aklosabbaothofficial 2 роки тому +4

      Me too, its awesome how clear, still full of body, the bass sounds, even with huge amounts of distorsion.

  • @EnricoCupellini
    @EnricoCupellini 2 роки тому +17

    Before watching this video I was trying to achieve the same result by using third part plugins and now that I measured how the JS band splitter works on the Berton Curve Analyzer I know that this is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks Kenny, thanks Reaper

    • @stizan9185
      @stizan9185 Рік тому

      Why use the splitter instead of an EQ?

    • @EnricoCupellini
      @EnricoCupellini Рік тому

      @@stizan9185 thank you for your question, yes if you duplicate the bass track (like the video) using an EQ would be more straightforward. I use the band splitter to process the signal within the same fx-chain

    • @stizan9185
      @stizan9185 Рік тому +2

      @@EnricoCupellini I was wondering if phasing relations would be different but I just did a test today and I'm blown away. I routed a loop to 3 other tracks low/mid/high and used Fabfilter Q3 Linear Phase to split frequencies, then I put them in a folder and inverted the phase of it while playing original loop, the result was some sound still leaking at low volume which means it still changed the phase, but when I used spltiter method and inverted phase the sound is completely canceled.
      Edit: I found a solution to have same result with Fabfilter pro Q in Linear phase mode aswell but you have to know a trick, its on youtube: "Dan Worall What Type Of EQ Should I Use?" from min 9 onwards if anyone reads this and is interested. This is not as ideal as the splitter tho because wjhen I check Performance Meter, Linear phase mode in Pro Q3 adds 3076 latency(PDC) in

  • @MartinvonBargen
    @MartinvonBargen 2 роки тому +2

    Extra points to Kenny for crediting the music in his videos.
    And yet another JS plugin that I'd overlooked, thanks Kenny. 😀😀

  • @DavidPyle0101
    @DavidPyle0101 2 роки тому +4

    Thanks! I was just looking at NDSP Parallax but thought it could be achieved in REAPER using multiple tracks, thanks! Timing is crazy lol

  • @fivebyfivesound
    @fivebyfivesound 2 роки тому +3

    Didn’t know about the JS band splitter. Been isolating frequency ranges to process bass using reaEQ. Looking fwd to trying this. Thanks!

  •  2 роки тому +4

    2 bands bass split is nice trick I use in all my mixes to combine massive low-end (under control) and a tone with attitude in the mids & highs. (I tend to keep low-end dry, except for compression, and send the rest through an amp simulation plugin.)
    But I do this with sends on separate tracks with 3rd party plugin filters with linear phase or natural phase param to avoid too much comb filtering effects.

  • @shredvenom
    @shredvenom 9 місяців тому

    I always learn something from your videos Kenny!
    And I love that you use the Reaper plug-ins because you know I have it !!!

  • @chadmiller8725
    @chadmiller8725 2 роки тому +6

    Interesting dynamic adjustment(s). And again - learned something new to apply and experiment within my projects. As the children of today say "this video slaps" as do all your presentations Kenny. This is a good👋to the face 😉

  • @genuinefreewilly5706
    @genuinefreewilly5706 2 роки тому +1

    gotta love these js plugins, these ones do the job, I had no idea

  • @ConwayBob
    @ConwayBob 2 роки тому +1

    Brilliant! Thanks, Kenny.

  • @johnprince3497
    @johnprince3497 9 місяців тому

    Excellent video.

  • @deskypoo
    @deskypoo 2 роки тому +1

    Super, thanks Kenny!

  • @PocketSunlight
    @PocketSunlight 2 роки тому

    Oh to control the bass! This will help loads - thank you, Kenny! 👍👍👍

  • @Sonar37
    @Sonar37 2 роки тому

    Absolutely Excellent! Happy Easter Kenny May The Good Lord Bless and Keep You.

  • @ulfsvensson9710
    @ulfsvensson9710 2 роки тому +1

    Wounderful tip!! So good!

  • @KevinWayne
    @KevinWayne 2 роки тому +5

    Excellent, Mr. Gioia~! Just as I'm really needing to get a handle on processing Bass, too. One question: Where would you put ReaComp in the Efx Chain for sidechaining Kick to Sub Bass? Unless I missed where you mentioned it?

    • @craigchammings6580
      @craigchammings6580 2 роки тому

      I'd keep both bass tracks in a folder and then send the sidechained kick to the folder. If you're only looking for the kick transient to poke through you could skip the folder idea and send the sidechained kick to the high passed bass track.

  • @JonHarris77
    @JonHarris77 2 роки тому +2

    Why not create the second track using routing instead of duplicating? This has a couple of advantages. Any editing/overdubs on the bass do not need to be done twice, or require re-duplicating. And by using a post-fader send, you could have a single fader to control both high and low. And still have the second fader for blending in the high end. Once that is good, you can keep the ratio of the 2 parts the same as you adjust (or automate) the original track with 1 fader.

    • @PaulWegmann
      @PaulWegmann 3 місяці тому

      Yes, is a reptilean protools habit. I prefer routing, the pc doesnt need to read two buffers.

  • @aklosabbaothofficial
    @aklosabbaothofficial 2 роки тому +3

    By duplicating the tracks you avoid the need to use the 3 band joinner and the extra plugin routing for each band?
    Although it gives more control to mix both signals and one can render them later into a single audio item with one of Archie's scripts, awesome man!

  • @chrisbrown7127
    @chrisbrown7127 2 роки тому

    Cool video & cool tune too 👍👍

  • @LaterHolmes
    @LaterHolmes 2 роки тому +1

    I learned something I can use!

  • @electricwhiterabbit
    @electricwhiterabbit 2 роки тому +6

    I have seen Warren Huart do this trick as well. But why use the splitter when you can just use a hi pass eq on one track and a low pass eq on the other track set at the same frequency? Basically the same thing. Also is that anti-aliasing that i hear on the distortion/fuzz with the swooshing?

    • @TheNewFlesh
      @TheNewFlesh 2 роки тому

      I thought he was using the splitter to keep all the processing on one track. Perhaps the crossover has a steeper Q, but I'd need to test that with some pink noise or something

    • @electricwhiterabbit
      @electricwhiterabbit 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheNewFlesh The splitter has nothing to do with where the processing is. You still have two tracks. One track is hi-pass and the other track is low-pass. You can still process each track differently regardless. Using the split tool limits you to what ever the db down reference is between the frequencies, whereas with EQ's you can change that how ever you like.

    • @Mikahaan
      @Mikahaan 2 роки тому +2

      @@TheNewFlesh I've tested. The JS 3 Way splitter uses 24db/Oct filters. Would be super nice to be able to select steeper curves.

    • @REAPERMania
      @REAPERMania  2 роки тому +2

      I tried using high and lo pass on this track and thought the splitter sounded better. At least for this bass.

    • @electricwhiterabbit
      @electricwhiterabbit 2 роки тому

      @@Mikahaan I think you can make steeper crossovers using more bands. Otherwise there is a plethora of great sounding free eq plugins that you can use to do it like the Reeq that someone made for Reaper which is a JS plugin.

  • @bsmith8166
    @bsmith8166 2 роки тому +2

    Why use the splitter instead of just duplicating the track and eq-ing?

    • @REAPERMania
      @REAPERMania  2 роки тому +3

      They do sound a bit different but it is the same concept so try both and use what you prefer.

  • @bruno.l9662
    @bruno.l9662 2 роки тому

    Cool video man. A question, in case of using a AMP simulation (like a gk plugin) or a processing like CLA bass, what is the better "sequence" for them fit in this kind os split? Should it be in a channel apart (send/return) or in the master channel after the individual processing that you explained above?

  • @masterwong3837
    @masterwong3837 2 роки тому +1

    Is Reaper real or just an illusion? Thanks again Kenny!

  • @joeheukerott9186
    @joeheukerott9186 2 роки тому

    Great stuff! Thanks.

  • @bsmith8166
    @bsmith8166 2 роки тому +3

    Why does the splitter say [LOSER]?

  • @Mikahaan
    @Mikahaan 2 роки тому +3

    Hi Kenny. Thanks so much for your most excellent tutorials. The JS 3 way splitter features 24db/Oct filtering. It's not a "brick wall" splitter. I'm not sure that 24db/Oct is enough for this process. Is there any way to make the splitter slope steeper? For bass treatment I'm thinking you might want to use at least a 48db/Oct splitter. Just my 2 cents. Thanks again. Cheers.

    • @REAPERMania
      @REAPERMania  2 роки тому +1

      I guess if you can find an EQ plugin with that slope.

    • @lorenzo_villa
      @lorenzo_villa 2 роки тому +2

      The JS plugin ReEq has steeper slopes (up to 96db/Oct if I remember correctly)

    • @KevinWayne
      @KevinWayne 2 роки тому +1

      @@lorenzo_villa Up to 120, actually~!

    • @KevinWayne
      @KevinWayne 2 роки тому

      @Mika Haan Wouldn't the plugin pin connector make it brickwall if done the way Kenny shows it?

    • @Mikahaan
      @Mikahaan 2 роки тому

      @@KevinWayne No. The curve is 24db/oct.

  • @aklosabbaothofficial
    @aklosabbaothofficial 2 роки тому +1

    Btw this is a unrelated question for this video but on your gain riding (vocal) tutorial, when changing the Automation Item from the Loudness plugin to the tracks volume envelope you change the automation item baseline (in the item properties box) the only thing is that I don't see that baseline line in the volume envelope, so I can't manage to reproduce the final step properly as I can't see how far should I scale the baseline point, is there any configuration setting Im missing for the automation envelopes? Did you know what could be the cause for that?
    On the other hand of the main issues I've found is that when writing the automation the overall volume is really down, way too quiet and when trying to level it up on the volume lane it also sou ds lower even with the baseline parameter at 100, are this relate to my first question? Is there any solution for this?
    Thanks in advance man.

  • @WellingtonStreetSkate
    @WellingtonStreetSkate 2 роки тому +2

    Dude...that Slap lol

  • @Orin-D
    @Orin-D 2 роки тому

    Thanks, I'm going to try it on my song! 👍👍👍😎

  • @docshadrach
    @docshadrach Рік тому

    Can I use the FFT Splitter instead? What's the difference?

  • @Melvin7727
    @Melvin7727 2 роки тому

    This is a great concept for mixing bass (I do it literally every single time I mix), but to any newbies just learning this, the Reaper distortion plugins are abysmal for it. Get Soundtoys or something.

  • @jeremy_p
    @jeremy_p 2 роки тому

    I will have to try this. I have been triple tracking BASS guitar. I keep one low, one normal, and one with distortion. I then blend the 3. The distortion I feel gives my bass an in the room amp sound.

  • @jamessharier7529
    @jamessharier7529 2 роки тому +3

    I like how the bass sounds, could you pan them left and right, or would that be offensive? I loved the drum sounds in the background very unique.

    • @anthonygiambusso2652
      @anthonygiambusso2652 2 роки тому

      Try it! It might sound way too out there or it could be really cool, I’ve heard some really cool mixes with the bass panned even tho it’s not typical at all

    • @REAPERMania
      @REAPERMania  2 роки тому +2

      Not a fan of panning bass. It rarely sounds good in mono.

  • @SoloSi2024
    @SoloSi2024 2 роки тому

    Prior to splitting, had this bass already received any compression during the initial recording?

  • @jawjajock524
    @jawjajock524 2 роки тому

    this is so cool
    is the xover slope adjustable...that would be cool too!

  • @cupboardhomestudio971
    @cupboardhomestudio971 2 роки тому

    Thnx Kenny 🎼😉

  • @guymanuel4260
    @guymanuel4260 2 роки тому +2

    How do you set up a USB microphone in reaper?

    • @nottathug
      @nottathug 2 роки тому +3

      go to preferences, audio, device, then look for it in the drop down menu

  • @Cnd2Mn
    @Cnd2Mn 2 роки тому

    its sad that you didn't show the channels routing and simply duplicated the track

  • @antonioc-s7753
    @antonioc-s7753 2 роки тому

    👍👍👏👏

  • @georgyj111111
    @georgyj111111 Рік тому

    Studio One does that way more elegantly.

  • @jealjimomusic2874
    @jealjimomusic2874 2 роки тому +1

    Your video has no audio man

  • @Sonar37
    @Sonar37 2 роки тому

    Absolutely Excellent! Happy Easter Kenny May The Good Lord Bless and Keep You.