Natto is fermented soybeans. Very nutritional, and very stinky, but I find the taste isn't that bad. It's a go-to "let's see how the foreigner reacts to this" food in Japan.
I am Japanese. It seems that some people are making a fuss about the lack of black people in SHOGUN. Several years before this era, there was a black samurai named Yasuke who served under Nobunaga. However, he was released from his samurai status at the same time as Nobunaga's assassination. Before him, there was no other black person in Japan. Also, in the era of this drama, only Europeans, let alone Americans, came to Japan. Also,There were no black aristocrats in Europe at that time.
Maybe it's all part of the plan? I feel like things in this show won't pan out how the audience thinks they will, based off the few surprises we've had already. - Cam
There is a poem taught to school children in Japan about a bird that does not sing. According to Oda Nobunaga (Garoda, who Mariko's father killed) if the bird doesn't sing, kill it. According to Toyotomi Hideyoshi (The Taiko) if the bird doesn't sing, coax it to sing. According to Tokugawa Ieyasu (Toronaga) if the bird doesn't sing, wait
This is the best episode so far imo. The first 3 were 99/100 and this was 100/100! I think Mariko enjoys being dominate with John, something she cannot be with any other man in Japan. She told him to not speak out of tongue once and she initiated the sex, going to him, moving his hand away, taking charge. She can be more assertive with him, and she enjoys it.
It wasnt the same actor as Buntaro. Imagine thinking all Japanese look alike lol.. Hatamoto is a Bannerman, meaning he would carry Toranaga's colors into battle.
To be fair, some characters do look alike. I confused some of the ladies in the beginning, but logically Buntaro should not be here. That would imply that they were lacking actors lol
We did not imply that all Japanese look alike. Off camera we actually went back and paused and the gentleman that Demica was talking about does look extremely similar to Buntaro's actor. - Cam.
doesn’t take a lot of imagining lol they def do look a lot alike especially to people who havent grown up around japanese people. it’s not an insult, it’s just how it looks to some of us
Mariko WAS the courtesan that Fuji-sama arranged for Anjin. As his courtesan, Fuji runs his house and is responsible to care for him. It would not be unreasonable for her to select a temporary courteson whom Anjin would accept. As a single woman, it would not be unusual for Mariko to serve as the courtesan. It is also expected that they would not plainly speak of the arrangement (in Japan they live the phrase "what is understood doesn't need to be said"). Even to this day, it is uncouth to speak bluntly in Japan. You speak around the topic. In Japan, "the courtesan was acceptable?" is the same thing as Austin Powers saying, "I shagged her rotten!" In this show, Ishido is the only one to whom the rules don't apply. His plain speach in Episode 1 was socially insulting, his direct accusation multiplied the offense. That is why Tadayoshi reacted so aggressively. However, Tadayoshi "losing his cool" is also an social insult (even in defense of his lord's pride), particularly when Toronaga is just taking the face punches, and Tadayoshi's sepuku was Toronaga taking the "Higher-ground" in the disagreement. You'll recall the priest in prison that told John, "You're a child in the wilderness, you don't know their games...You can't play their game, their rules are too opaque, their hearts too guarded."
My question is this, Mariko reads and speaks Portuguese, some Latin, and of course Japanese. How is she translating Blackthorne's books? I would imagine they were written in Dutch or English
Lady Hosokawa Gratia real person who inspired Mariko character was learning foreign language from a Spanish Jesuit Gregorio Cesvedes, this Jesuit are a polygot who fluent with other European language and yes that including Dutch and English. It wasn't clear if Lady Gratia also learn English, but it would be a good plot twist for the drama series if later Blacktorn found out that Mariko are actually understand his language but she hide it 😂
I don't think this guy is like little at all. Little finger was highly intelligent. This guy is easily manipulated where as lottle would have been doing the manipulating.
not only did the lead actor Hiroyuki Sanada wanted the show to be accurate when it came to the costumes and customs etc, but most of the characters on this show are also based on real historical people and the story is also based on real historical events. So not only is Shogun a fantastic series, but it's also like being given a rough history lesson of what happened during that time period in early 1600s feudal japan. Of course the story is not completely factually accurate, some parts are dramatised and sensationalised, but most of the story were still inspired by true events.
I think it's not early 1600 after he won at sekigahara. this might be before the battle, around after hediyoshi death. c.1595-1599?. ishida & tokugawa forces were just starting to build up to east & west
@@wh_kers The character of Blackthorne is based on the real William Adams who arrived in Japan in 1600. And the show states in the first episode that the story takes place in 1600. Of course the show is not going to be 100% historically accurate, some parts of the story could've been dramatised, sensationalised or even changed, but it is still roughly based on real events, so most of the story should be accurate.
I mean you cant really say Hiroyuki was the reason its based upon history and what was around then, considering shogun was a book and a tv show in the 80s so i mean you should at least credit the original work😂
@@finger3306 of course not, the show is based on a book that was published in the 1970s. What I meant is that HIroyuki Sanada is not just the lead actor but he is also a producer on the show and it was him who made sure that the show remained accurate to Japanese culture and history, and he insisted on hiring mostly Japanese actors and crew members. In fact he put his foot down and actually gave the studio executives an ultimatum, that all japanese characters must be played by real japanese actors and the show must be culturally accurate & realistic, or he would not work on the show. So while the show is based on a book, which in turn is based on real historical events, but it was mainly Hiroyuki who made sure that Japanese culture and customs were portrayed accurately and authentically on the show.
in the original series and book, the woman that Blackthorne had sex with was supposed to be the Courtesan Kiku but it was actually Lady Mariko. It had to be kept SECRET because for a High Born Samurai woman to sleep with a "barbarian" or a Lower Ranking Samurai like some common Courtesan would have been a Huge Scandal
You are kind of right, but the book is the same as this tv show in that, they sleep together in darkness and it's not known who he slept with. The only difference in the book is that John and Mariko ride horses when it's spoke about the next day. Of course Mariko cannot say she slept with John, as she's supposed to be just a translator and Mariko is also a Samurai. Samurai for those who don't know is a family title, like a Lord or Lady in Medieval times, in the West. it's not a job as a knight how we use it in the West. So Mariko would bring shame on herself if she slept with him and both she and John would be killed if it was known outside. You should also remember John was Hatamoto, so a high rank and this outranked her Samurai title in many ways, the rank wasn't the issue. It's to do with family positions and the job she was supposed to be doing
In the book it was pitch black in the room and she didn't talk but he knew it was Mariko, she denied it but we all know it was her although the book never confirms it and we're left in doubt and confusion just like he is
Thanks, Cam! Thanks, Demica! 🗾 The reaction 'John' had to learning 'Mariko' wasn't who slept with him was one of the only things I recalled from the miniseries from 1980. It was played off, nearly ignored here. There was more of a sense of betrayal... then embarrassment that he couldn't tell the women apart... in near-total darkness. It was explained that the woman was made to wear the perfume that 'Mariko' usually wears, to further the ploy.
I remember the perfume and the misunderstanding. The Pilot felt humiliated, until he was helped to understand. I enjoyed both versions of this part of the story.😊
The relationship between Mariko and Blackthorn is focused on more in the books and the 80's miniseries. They cut a lot of that development from this adaptation in order to focus more time on the Japanese characters. For example, you didn't get to see Ohmi manipulating Toranaga's son into attacking Ishido's forces in the 80's mini series, but you did see a lot more of Mariko and Blackthorn making doe eyes at each other before the whole "Consort" trick. The choice does make their relationship feel somewhat rushed and forced, but I understand the choice so accept the trade off. Whether or not it was a "good" choice is subjective.
I don't mind them not focusing on the relationship as much, I'm much more interested in the Japanese characters, the culture, and the history the time itself. I don't think it felt forced but it was definitely a bit rushed. You can see in the reaction where I thought they might have kissed or so in the next episode at the earliest. - Cam
Never thought I'd feel sorry for Yabushige. He's shady as hell, but he seems to be the only sensible person, while everyone around him are just so eagle to mess everything up.
Channel See 1. Lad's, Toranaga's son has just given his father a lot of help and time. Lord Ishido could wait a week or more before he starts to wonder where his troops are. By then Toranaga could be up to all sorts of mischief. Toranaga is where Ishido and the Council can't see him. But the game has just gone up 10 fold. Cheers, Chris Perry.
It’s always the reckless sons that start GREAT WARS! That cannon ball and beheading in the end was straight savage!
Natto is fermented soybeans. Very nutritional, and very stinky, but I find the taste isn't that bad. It's a go-to "let's see how the foreigner reacts to this" food in Japan.
And this food is super healthy
I am Japanese. It seems that some people are making a fuss about the lack of black people in SHOGUN. Several years before this era, there was a black samurai named Yasuke who served under Nobunaga. However, he was released from his samurai status at the same time as Nobunaga's assassination. Before him, there was no other black person in Japan. Also, in the era of this drama, only Europeans, let alone Americans, came to Japan. Also,There were no black aristocrats in Europe at that time.
@@takuh6830 These guys are crazy. They ruined Holleywood and now they’re trying to do that to other cultures.
If I ever visit Japan, which I hope I do, I'll have to try it! - Cam
@@mhd6684here y’all go what does this have to do with a random black ppl reacting to the show y’all can’t help but project your hate
The father knew that war was coming but the son always got to be the reckless one
Me 45 mins into the episode: what a relatively lowkey episode after last week
Me 1 hr into the episode: ...nevermind....
THEY REALLY GOT US AT THE END LMAO - Cam
wow the son really jumped the gun there. so much for toranaga being prepared lol
Maybe it's all part of the plan? I feel like things in this show won't pan out how the audience thinks they will, based off the few surprises we've had already. - Cam
There is a poem taught to school children in Japan about a bird that does not sing. According to Oda Nobunaga (Garoda, who Mariko's father killed) if the bird doesn't sing, kill it. According to Toyotomi Hideyoshi (The Taiko) if the bird doesn't sing, coax it to sing. According to Tokugawa Ieyasu (Toronaga) if the bird doesn't sing, wait
This is the best episode so far imo. The first 3 were 99/100 and this was 100/100! I think Mariko enjoys being dominate with John, something she cannot be with any other man in Japan. She told him to not speak out of tongue once and she initiated the sex, going to him, moving his hand away, taking charge. She can be more assertive with him, and she enjoys it.
Interesting perspective. I like it! - Cam
Actually, sex and sexual freedom is apart of the culture.
It wasnt the same actor as Buntaro. Imagine thinking all Japanese look alike lol..
Hatamoto is a Bannerman, meaning he would carry Toranaga's colors into battle.
Hata means flag in Japanese, and moto or mote means hold.
To be fair, some characters do look alike. I confused some of the ladies in the beginning, but logically Buntaro should not be here. That would imply that they were lacking actors lol
We did not imply that all Japanese look alike. Off camera we actually went back and paused and the gentleman that Demica was talking about does look extremely similar to Buntaro's actor. - Cam.
doesn’t take a lot of imagining lol they def do look a lot alike especially to people who havent grown up around japanese people. it’s not an insult, it’s just how it looks to some of us
Mariko WAS the courtesan that Fuji-sama arranged for Anjin. As his courtesan, Fuji runs his house and is responsible to care for him. It would not be unreasonable for her to select a temporary courteson whom Anjin would accept. As a single woman, it would not be unusual for Mariko to serve as the courtesan.
It is also expected that they would not plainly speak of the arrangement (in Japan they live the phrase "what is understood doesn't need to be said"). Even to this day, it is uncouth to speak bluntly in Japan. You speak around the topic. In Japan, "the courtesan was acceptable?" is the same thing as Austin Powers saying, "I shagged her rotten!"
In this show, Ishido is the only one to whom the rules don't apply. His plain speach in Episode 1 was socially insulting, his direct accusation multiplied the offense. That is why Tadayoshi reacted so aggressively. However, Tadayoshi "losing his cool" is also an social insult (even in defense of his lord's pride), particularly when Toronaga is just taking the face punches, and Tadayoshi's sepuku was Toronaga taking the "Higher-ground" in the disagreement.
You'll recall the priest in prison that told John, "You're a child in the wilderness, you don't know their games...You can't play their game, their rules are too opaque, their hearts too guarded."
Damn this channel is high quality asf for the subs
My question is this, Mariko reads and speaks Portuguese, some Latin, and of course Japanese. How is she translating Blackthorne's books? I would imagine they were written in Dutch or English
That's a good question.
Lady Hosokawa Gratia real person who inspired Mariko character was learning foreign language from a Spanish Jesuit Gregorio Cesvedes, this Jesuit are a polygot who fluent with other European language and yes that including Dutch and English. It wasn't clear if Lady Gratia also learn English, but it would be a good plot twist for the drama series if later Blacktorn found out that Mariko are actually understand his language but she hide it 😂
Stupid GOT comparisons ... again.
20:13 Natto is fermented Soybeans. Sticky, smelly, and a Breakfast staple in Japan today. An acquired taste.
I don't think this guy is like little at all. Little finger was highly intelligent. This guy is easily manipulated where as lottle would have been doing the manipulating.
regarding sex scene
"YOU PEOPLE ALL LOOK THE SAME"
Fuji as gangsta as her grandaddy. He said that was his best granddaughter.
not only did the lead actor Hiroyuki Sanada wanted the show to be accurate when it came to the costumes and customs etc, but most of the characters on this show are also based on real historical people and the story is also based on real historical events. So not only is Shogun a fantastic series, but it's also like being given a rough history lesson of what happened during that time period in early 1600s feudal japan. Of course the story is not completely factually accurate, some parts are dramatised and sensationalised, but most of the story were still inspired by true events.
I think it's not early 1600 after he won at sekigahara. this might be before the battle, around after hediyoshi death. c.1595-1599?. ishida & tokugawa forces were just starting to build up to east & west
@@wh_kers The character of Blackthorne is based on the real William Adams who arrived in Japan in 1600. And the show states in the first episode that the story takes place in 1600. Of course the show is not going to be 100% historically accurate, some parts of the story could've been dramatised, sensationalised or even changed, but it is still roughly based on real events, so most of the story should be accurate.
I mean you cant really say Hiroyuki was the reason its based upon history and what was around then, considering shogun was a book and a tv show in the 80s so i mean you should at least credit the original work😂
@@finger3306 of course not, the show is based on a book that was published in the 1970s. What I meant is that HIroyuki Sanada is not just the lead actor but he is also a producer on the show and it was him who made sure that the show remained accurate to Japanese culture and history, and he insisted on hiring mostly Japanese actors and crew members. In fact he put his foot down and actually gave the studio executives an ultimatum, that all japanese characters must be played by real japanese actors and the show must be culturally accurate & realistic, or he would not work on the show. So while the show is based on a book, which in turn is based on real historical events, but it was mainly Hiroyuki who made sure that Japanese culture and customs were portrayed accurately and authentically on the show.
@@iamlinda100 battle of sekigahara is 1600
12:43 She puts the G in Fuji
fuji W
Love this lol - Cam
Hatamoto translates to Banner Bearer, pretty much the only person higher than Blackthorne in Toronaga's circle is Hiromatsu
So Omi is pulling Nagakado's strings. And Kiku is pulling Omi's strings. Who is behind Kiku!? This show, man!!! 🤯
paid the right amount of Koku.. and you can get behind Kiku.. Kekw
in the original series and book, the woman that Blackthorne had sex with was supposed to be the Courtesan Kiku but it was actually Lady Mariko. It had to be kept SECRET because for a High Born Samurai woman to sleep with a "barbarian" or a Lower Ranking Samurai like some common Courtesan would have been a Huge Scandal
You are kind of right, but the book is the same as this tv show in that, they sleep together in darkness and it's not known who he slept with. The only difference in the book is that John and Mariko ride horses when it's spoke about the next day. Of course Mariko cannot say she slept with John, as she's supposed to be just a translator and Mariko is also a Samurai. Samurai for those who don't know is a family title, like a Lord or Lady in Medieval times, in the West. it's not a job as a knight how we use it in the West. So Mariko would bring shame on herself if she slept with him and both she and John would be killed if it was known outside. You should also remember John was Hatamoto, so a high rank and this outranked her Samurai title in many ways, the rank wasn't the issue. It's to do with family positions and the job she was supposed to be doing
In the book it was pitch black in the room and she didn't talk but he knew it was Mariko, she denied it but we all know it was her although the book never confirms it and we're left in doubt and confusion just like he is
Thank you for clarification!
Thanks, Cam! Thanks, Demica! 🗾 The reaction 'John' had to learning 'Mariko' wasn't who slept with him was one of the only things I recalled from the miniseries from 1980. It was played off, nearly ignored here. There was more of a sense of betrayal... then embarrassment that he couldn't tell the women apart... in near-total darkness. It was explained that the woman was made to wear the perfume that 'Mariko' usually wears, to further the ploy.
I remember the perfume and the misunderstanding. The Pilot felt humiliated, until he was helped to understand. I enjoyed both versions of this part of the story.😊
@@camillemayers103 Oh, yes. It's very enjoyable to compare and contrast. Plus, my memories from that long ago are rather fuzzy. 😆
Thank you for your insight! Always a pleasure having you around!
@@ChannelSee1 It's my pleasure! 🤓
The relationship between Mariko and Blackthorn is focused on more in the books and the 80's miniseries. They cut a lot of that development from this adaptation in order to focus more time on the Japanese characters. For example, you didn't get to see Ohmi manipulating Toranaga's son into attacking Ishido's forces in the 80's mini series, but you did see a lot more of Mariko and Blackthorn making doe eyes at each other before the whole "Consort" trick.
The choice does make their relationship feel somewhat rushed and forced, but I understand the choice so accept the trade off. Whether or not it was a "good" choice is subjective.
I could have done without the relationship all together. I wish they would have just stuck to flirting.
I don't mind them not focusing on the relationship as much, I'm much more interested in the Japanese characters, the culture, and the history the time itself. I don't think it felt forced but it was definitely a bit rushed. You can see in the reaction where I thought they might have kissed or so in the next episode at the earliest. - Cam
Never thought I'd feel sorry for Yabushige. He's shady as hell, but he seems to be the only sensible person, while everyone around him are just so eagle to mess everything up.
Now I know the saying "don't shoot the messenger!"
Channel See 1. Lad's, Toranaga's son has just given his father a lot of help and time. Lord Ishido could wait a week or more before he starts to wonder where his troops are. By then Toranaga could be up to all sorts of mischief. Toranaga is where Ishido and the Council can't see him. But the game has just gone up 10 fold. Cheers, Chris Perry.
This is a good point! This could be very beneficial plus it forces Yabushige to fully support Toranaga at this point.
WAR
u can get natto in every asian market, just eat it soon after purchase and keep it cool. i, a non japanese, liked it right away. Great with rice
Good to know, thank you!
Fuji W
Man get clue her husband sacrificed last episode !
I was just saying it was crazy how much the guy in the crowd looked like him.