Dragon Ball FighterZ - How Android 21's absorb mechanic works

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  • @Rooflemonger
    @Rooflemonger  7 років тому +76

    21's Absorb is a unique mechanic in a game full of very unique things so I hope this breakdown helps!

    • @symeoncarter8144
      @symeoncarter8144 7 років тому

      rooflemonger what does catn gynu give?

    • @TJizzle82
      @TJizzle82 7 років тому +3

      She also can cancel an absorb attack into the other. Ex solar flare into kamehameha

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  7 років тому +3

      symeon ginyu is in the alien category, so homing ball/teleport.

    • @captaindreadfull6795
      @captaindreadfull6795 7 років тому

      Goku black gives you kamehameha

    • @gigaport
      @gigaport 7 років тому

      The only thing other thing you missed besides the stolen moves comboing into each other, is that the type of command grab corresponds with which move is stolen. QCF in the air and on the ground will always steal kamehameha and QCB in the air and on the ground will always steal solar flare as an example.

  • @moncala7787
    @moncala7787 6 років тому +86

    Categories
    Z Fighters/Earthlings (blue)
    Aliens (purple)
    Androids (green)
    Proud Sayians (yellow)

  • @jeako777
    @jeako777 7 років тому +45

    That‘s such a dope concept

  • @knathtaed
    @knathtaed 7 років тому +50

    a plague on the house of anyone who says roofiemonger instead of rooflemonger

  • @vision4860
    @vision4860 7 років тому +63

    I'd say rather than being the "aggressive" category, a more apt name is the Vegeta category, since all the members of that category are Vegeta's family other than Nappa, who was his partner.
    All in all then, the categories are the Goku group, Vegeta group, Alien group, and Android group.

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  7 років тому +6

      I suppose. There's no official naming scheme for em so I just went with whatever.

    • @Opencountry0
      @Opencountry0 6 років тому

      I think you can just call it the saiyan category, since all the people who have it are saiyans and aren't associated with a particular fighting style.

    • @MHSchonberg
      @MHSchonberg 6 років тому +3

      King Of All Trades Problem is, there’s Saiyans who aren’t in that category -Goku, Gohan, and Goku Black. So Vegeta/Aggressive fits better.

    • @minnieshoof
      @minnieshoof 6 років тому +4

      Simple: Earthlings vs Space Saiyans. Goku considers himself an Earthling, first.

    • @zirotsero6951
      @zirotsero6951 6 років тому +1

      But then Vegito exists

  • @Rooflemonger
    @Rooflemonger  7 років тому +14

    Next vids up on deck will be android 21 combos and Tips/tricks

    • @neonzeroshift
      @neonzeroshift 7 років тому +1

      rooflemonger thanks senpai she is my main and i cant wait to learn more about her :D

    • @flcclax13
      @flcclax13 7 років тому +1

      She looks like a lot of fun

  • @theguy7539
    @theguy7539 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks so much dude, this made me like 300 times better with android 21

  • @BlueLightningSky
    @BlueLightningSky 6 років тому +3

    Also Ex fireball at 4 absorbed moves allows you to follow up with a jump M if you are at mid screen.

  • @XXxSEPHIR0THxXX
    @XXxSEPHIR0THxXX 7 років тому +6

    also if you absorb moves from both on the ground or in the air versions the quarter circle back move will gain a special property the utilizes the move you have in the quarter circle forward slot. for example if you have the double bomb ki blast in your quarter circle forward slot and the solar flare in the quarter circle back slot, 21 will solar flare directly into the double ki blast, this works for ground and air. not every combination of moves works and this comment is already too long so test them out your self

  • @dirk6687
    @dirk6687 5 років тому

    Well done sir, very direct and simple explanation.

  • @elijahbryant8654
    @elijahbryant8654 2 роки тому

    I do like that you can do the absorption move to get one at a time, it can really open up for many combos. Not to mention the fact that you fill in all four slots when you use the super move in which she turns your character into a sweet and takes a bite out of you

  • @screamingcat8533
    @screamingcat8533 3 роки тому +1

    OMG this was so helpful i didn't no that!

    • @ScoobySnax.
      @ScoobySnax. 3 роки тому

      Bro fr, I swear I thought the moves just kept changing on their own

  • @symeoncarter8144
    @symeoncarter8144 7 років тому +6

    Love the videos , after the mechanics vids i want a capt gynu video lol

  • @LiquidChamploo
    @LiquidChamploo 4 роки тому +2

    The hard part is keeping track of your grabs in the heat of neutral and the end of combos, nothing is more heartbreaking than accidentally hitting that vanish and dropping the combo 😭

  • @viperville4202
    @viperville4202 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks man now I know how to do it

  • @dantespice
    @dantespice 7 років тому +2

    I subbed. You're the man!

  • @robm9237
    @robm9237 6 років тому +11

    Not a huge fan of this mechanic, but 21 is a cool character.

  • @AbwonUno
    @AbwonUno 7 років тому +16

    @ 1:44 REALITY STONE! Lmao

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  7 років тому +3

      Lasts a LOT longer than reality stone too.

    • @CoolBossFights
      @CoolBossFights 6 років тому +1

      Abwon•Over•Everything marvel dead tho

    • @AbwonUno
      @AbwonUno 6 років тому +2

      Rick Peters I still play MVCI but yea you’re right it seems like it’s on its way out. They need to release some new DLC asap

    • @CoolBossFights
      @CoolBossFights 6 років тому +1

      Abwon•Over•Everything even with dlc sadly it will stay dead, the game has too many problems and all the problems from mvc3 carried over too, nothing was fixed, solved or reprimanded.
      I can promise you that game will never see the light of day again.

  • @Kami-nd5oj
    @Kami-nd5oj 6 років тому +1

    thank you for this, i main ssj goku ssj vegeta and 21 so this helps alot

    • @Kami-nd5oj
      @Kami-nd5oj 6 років тому

      and lol, the 2 easiest characters with arguably the hardest character on a team, it works for me tho

  • @OhReji
    @OhReji 7 років тому +1

    Yo android 21 is fucking raw

  • @OrangeDynamo
    @OrangeDynamo 6 років тому

    Thank you!

  • @TheOtherBlue
    @TheOtherBlue 7 років тому +7

    Hopefully we're gonna get blue Vegeta dunk combos. :D

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  7 років тому

      After I get 21 combos out of the way I got nooooooooo idea whose next. I am interested in playing about half the cast so I gotta learn heh.

    • @havocsurge7667
      @havocsurge7667 7 років тому +2

      The only way I use the dunk in a combo is after a vanish. It's the medium version, and after that I go ham with supers xD. I think you can also combo into it after a normal ki blast. But honestly, unless you want to take the opponent to the ground so you can do a full squad super fest, the kicks are much better.

    • @puklop
      @puklop 7 років тому

      If you do dunk combos with Vegeta, can you please use "Space Jam theme" as the background music lol

    • @darkdjinniumbrage7798
      @darkdjinniumbrage7798 6 років тому

      On a scale of 1 to 10...

  • @grassysaq
    @grassysaq 7 років тому +1

    You can cancel 1 absorbed move into a second one, also. FYI.

  • @thetruestar6348
    @thetruestar6348 6 років тому +6

    Weird I see no one in competitive dbfz use this, it seems worth like due to 21 not being the the best without some assist helping her out

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  6 років тому +4

      Its one of those things like 2 months from now people will have more on deck as they fish for absorb combo stuff. Right now I barely even think of absorb as anything else than a 1 off command grab. Its a strange mechanic and those kind of things take time to mature. Just like say Ginyu, 2 months from now you will see the ginyu players who really "get it" but right now not so much.

  • @somedudewhodraws9377
    @somedudewhodraws9377 6 років тому

    jeez they even gave evil 21 a sexy walking animation not that im complaining mind u

  • @notkube6080
    @notkube6080 3 роки тому

    Interesting

  • @QuestionableLogic_
    @QuestionableLogic_ 6 років тому +5

    So what does Teen Gohan give? I'm not sure if I missed it or not?

    • @azure8935
      @azure8935 6 років тому

      Questionable Logic
      Kamehameha and Solar Flare

  • @DrewPSachs
    @DrewPSachs 4 роки тому +1

    This all sti holds true for 3.5 right? Just picked her up

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  4 роки тому +1

      Some of it does, this guide is quite out of date these days now :( But the basic moves and all that hold true

    • @DrewPSachs
      @DrewPSachs 4 роки тому +1

      @@Rooflemonger Awesome, thanks for the reply! I love your videos, man

    • @Rei-uk3qt
      @Rei-uk3qt 4 роки тому

      Also you can only use the absorbed abilities once now

  • @arcanealex2311
    @arcanealex2311 11 місяців тому

    I’m trying to get all slot filled with the powers so I can do her “new” put but it keeps on registering the input as me USING THE POWERUPS

    • @arcanealex2311
      @arcanealex2311 11 місяців тому

      I don’t rage easily but this has pissed me off to a new degree

  • @chaosarchangel7375
    @chaosarchangel7375 7 років тому +1

    Roof my man I must ask for a favor. Can you PLEASE make a vid on Ginyu's Body Change mechanic? I can't understand it's properties and it never seems to combo when it should, and I can't find any assist to help make it work. All I know is that Ginyu's Guldo assist seems to help it connect if you can time it properly.

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  7 років тому +1

      I will see what I can do although I am not sure what the issue is with the mechanic itself? Guldo lets you combo into it and then you just completely switch. Character & lifebars switch over. Honestly its kind a gimmick I don't think it has much room for competitive play.

    • @chaosarchangel7375
      @chaosarchangel7375 7 років тому

      I'm trying to see if there's any viable way to combo or setup into it. Is it that it can't hit someone affected by hitstun? Does Guldo put the enemy into some special state that's different from a normal stun? Ginyu is my main atm, and I feel Body Change is really being slept on. When it lands it devastates the enemy's team comp and combos. Also I'm a fan of moves with a strong psychological effect on the enemy player, fighting games are fought 90% with the mind, after all..

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  7 років тому

      Plenty of ways to combo into it!
      Any combo, into gotenks assist, into guldo, will let you combo into it for example. It can totally effect people in hitstun its just that its tied with 16 for longest startup on a move in the game.

    • @chaosarchangel7375
      @chaosarchangel7375 7 років тому

      Ty, I'll do some more practicing then. I must be doing something wrong.

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  7 років тому

      Just keep in mind after guldo you gotta go RIGHT into it. You can't wait to see guldo hit, or hesitate or nothing.
      so you wanna motion like, qcf+s, qcb for lvl 3 instantly.

  • @GoDzAppReNTiiCe
    @GoDzAppReNTiiCe 3 роки тому

    I still don’t get it because sometime I try to use one of the moves but she does the absorb move instead. There must be something I’m missing

  • @Eltro920
    @Eltro920 6 років тому

    Android 21's pretty much MKX Shinnok x4. Only difference is she gets to keep the moves whereas Shinnok forgets them upon doing the stolen move once.

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  6 років тому

      God I hate mk4 shinnok so lame. Although there isn't much positive to say about mk4 other than the silly sonya/jarek/jax endings.

  • @marceloleiva3417
    @marceloleiva3417 7 років тому

    You forgot to mention that you can combo absorbed moves into each other and that when you have full slots, 21 gains access to a S.S Deadly Bomber kinda attack. Besides that, a nice and informative video as always

  • @darkdjinniumbrage7798
    @darkdjinniumbrage7798 6 років тому

    What about Teen Gohan? Does he fit in the Kame or Aggressive category?

  • @CarlosIzcoa
    @CarlosIzcoa 6 років тому

    Please do an updated version including all DLC characters

  • @theangrywig3905
    @theangrywig3905 6 років тому +6

    "Aggressive character category"
    Or you could call them, I dunno...
    *"SAIYANS?"*

  • @Bloodlyshiva
    @Bloodlyshiva 6 років тому +1

    What groups are Broly/Bardock in?

    • @darkdjinniumbrage7798
      @darkdjinniumbrage7798 6 років тому

      If I had to guess, I think Bardock would be in the Kame House, and Broly in the Aggressive House.

  • @hartyparty9146
    @hartyparty9146 6 років тому

    but wot buttons do i press on xbox controller

    • @azure8935
      @azure8935 6 років тому

      DreamCatz
      Foward half circle A or back half circle for the tilt up version.

  • @Mr_Spaghetti
    @Mr_Spaghetti 6 років тому

    did teen gohan not get a category?

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  6 років тому +1

      Did I miss him? He's in the kame house/goku friends category. Kamehameha and solar flare.

  • @ten-thousandbees8453
    @ten-thousandbees8453 5 років тому +1

    I hope she gets updeaded so she can use a lot of other moves from the DLC characters

  • @InfamousBananaGoblin
    @InfamousBananaGoblin 5 років тому +1

    anyone else losing the ability after using it?

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  5 років тому +1

      That is the case after the most recent patch. This video is now out of date :(

  • @gabrielcastejon7914
    @gabrielcastejon7914 6 років тому

    Very cool mechanich but seems very undependable.

  • @DantesInferno96
    @DantesInferno96 3 роки тому

    It's great but pretty pointless in online. Most fights are fast paced.

  • @bloowaffle2063
    @bloowaffle2063 6 років тому

    You said it way to fast for me to understand ;-;

  • @pinksnake7584
    @pinksnake7584 6 років тому

    Nice video, you forgot to mention that she can get rid of moves she stole using her special, which is a large ball of ki that travels the screen real fast and gets bigger and more damaging the more moves you stole

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  6 років тому +3

      That's literally in the video.

    • @pinksnake7584
      @pinksnake7584 6 років тому

      rooflemonger damn it's right at the end of the video where I expected it to be, was pretty sure to have seen the whole thing 0.o my bad, brainfarted hard

  • @moisesvillasenor5234
    @moisesvillasenor5234 2 роки тому

    I didnt understand the button you press you speak too fast

  • @SpaceTrump
    @SpaceTrump 6 років тому

    Gawh... Your ability to do combos ... :|

    • @Rooflemonger
      @Rooflemonger  6 років тому +1

      Is really bad. My execution is the worst part of my game and sub-par. Trust me when I say in any of my videos if I can do them, anyone can. I have no special skillset for this stuff just hard work and practice. Luckily in fighting games hard work > raw talent and skill.