Would love to see the video about different professions you can work in as a nurse but want to go back to school to get an MHA. If I’ve missed this video by chance, please let me know. Love your content btw…very professional!
@@kerrimchayle1213 OMG!!! Thank you! I’m so sorry to @jes8203 !!! I use voice texting a lot and must have not read what was typed out 🥴 I definitely meant to type “that IS a great suggestion. I have not made a video like that but I plan to make one in the future”! ❤️
Hey! So every organization is different. To be completely transparent, when you are looking at a CEO or even COO positions, a lot of those positions are appointed. There are definitely some organizations where you can work your way to the top and earn those top spots, but to be completely honest, a lot of those positions are usually appointed by somebody outside of the company who has connections or who may even be related to their predecessor. For most organizations, across different fields and not just healthcare, it is an unfair game… Not every single organization is like this, and even for the ones that are, you can often work your way up pretty high. Even if you do not get as high as the COO or CEO, you can become a VP of a department or the head of a devision. If you were looking specifically in healthcare, I would say the best thing that you can do is find an organization and get in to that organization in any department. Then once you are in, make sure to attend any events that you possibly can to network with in the company. So if there are marketing events, fundraisers, volunteer opportunities, etc. it is a good idea to attend as many of those as possible and net work with different department heads. That way, when organizations are looking to hire from within your name is in peoples minds. Depending on your level of education and experience, even starting as a receptionist in an organization can be the first step on your career path. If a promotion comes up that is within your scope of practice and your skill set, apply to the job. Even if you do not get it, different department heads will now know that you are somebody who is looking to do more and you want to be promoted in the company. For every company, the progression of a career can look different. It depends on the culture of the company, and how big the company is.
@@theluckienurse Thanks for the detailed response. Im comparing healthcare administration to finance in terms of a long term career for me. In corporate finance you know pretty much the chain of progression analyst-manager-director-VP etc. Ive heard in the past that most Hospital CEO spots is filled by internal senior leadership most often the COO. I want to retire early as well maybe around 45ish-50 so compensation is a big factor in the compensation honestly seemed low are there higher paying routes? ( compared to corporate finance where directors with 10-14yoe start getting 150k base, 25 bonus, and equity. But of course its not all about pay but it is what would help achieve my personal goals as well.
@@Jayjr-jc2wi that makes sense… With healthcare, there is not always a clear path to the top. It really just depends what area of healthcare you were in and what organization you were at. There are hospitals, nursing homes (which sound random if you’re not in the world of healthcare, but it is very competitive and lucrative), rehab centers, outpatient centers… Healthcare is so broad and there’s so many different systems within the umbrella of healthcare. Specifically, when talking about hospitals, I also do not think that there is one clear path to the top. I will say though, if you are looking to retire that early, I’m not sure if being a bigwig in a hospital setting is the right route to go. I have met with a few different hospital CEOs in my area, and all of them were older. I personally have never met a hospital CEO or COO as young as the age that you are looking to retire. Of the higher ups that I know at hospitals, I know some that started the career in finance, I know a couple of nurses that went back to school for business… When it comes to those types of positions, it always seemed more about who you know than what you know. So networking would probably be more important than any one particular career path!
If you are just starting out, the most greased path towards C level would be MBA/MHA to an administrative fellowship as an early careerist immediately following your MHA. You will end up in meetings with people every week that would normally take someone 15 years of work to sit in on. These fellowships are Extremely competitive though, and they are looking for specific team fits, not necessarily just the most competitive candidate on paper. I for example did not get the admin fellowship I wanted despite over 5 years of relevant industry experience, tier 1 ivy undergrad, tier 1 grad school with 4.0 for MHA, veteran, tons of real and proven passion for the industry etc. I made it through 2/3 rounds. But I have a family and they could intuit that I wasn't going to move them for the fellowship. If you are a competitive candidate and just apply to everything you see in NAFCAS, and you're willing to move, you can get one and be on that path. Nobody but You is going to make all that happen though. It's your work. There's no such thing as just a direct path to C level unless your dad owns the company.
loved this video! I initially started watching your channel for your nursing school content, but I have ultimately decided to go into health services administration instead of nursing, at least for right now (even though i was accepted to start in the fall, i feel like now isn’t the right time) I currently work as a PCT at an HCA facility. Do you think this will be a good steppingstone while I finish my bachelors in health services administration? I definitely want to move into a more clerical/ administrative assistant hospital role after I graduate, but I am not sure if direct patient care experience will benefit me when searching for clerical roles within HCA facilities. I am also considering doing an accelerated BSN program (to go into nursing management and leadership) after my bachelor degree or going straight into getting an MHA, but I really don’t know. I have been so set on nursing so this change is a little bit difficult and I am searching for any answers and guidance that I can find! I really appreciate any advice you can give!
Hey! It sounds to me like you just want to be in healthcare and don’t necessarily need to or want to be doing direct patient care. If this is the case, I don’t think that you would benefit much from doing a nursing program. It’s always a bonus to have if you are in healthcare, but if you know that you want to be clerical or administrative, I would not advise you taking the time or spending the money to get a nursing degree. You can have a very successful career in administration with your bachelors in health services administration. Depending the area that you live in, this may be enough, but I would personally advise you to further your education after this and get an MHA after getting some working experience working in administration. Direct patient care experience can be a bonus, but I know a lot of people that are successful in healthcare administration that do not have a background in direct patient care at all. I hope that this helps 😊
Hello , I am starting courses to earn my associates in healthcare administration. I want to know what jobs will I be able to get, when I’m fresh out of school.
Hey! Helpful video, I am going to be getting my bachelors in finance and then my masters in health care administration. Do you think starting in finance would be a successful route also? or should I get my bachelors in health communications ( my uni doesnt have health administration major)
Thanks for watching! My personal opinion would be to go with a bachelors degree in finance instead of a bachelors degree in health communications. Finance is a lot more broad, and will make you more marketable. If you already plan on getting a masters degree in healthcare administration, then by the end you’ll already have a healthcare related degree anyway. Hope this helps!
Hello, I have been heavily considering becoming a Medical and Health Services manager. I was looking for a job that has a pay range of 90k+ but the issue is I wanted to find a job with this type of salary that also provides a good work life balance. I would basically look for a job that provides a good salary with a regular schedule (with occasional extra hours for emergencies). Is this an unrealistic goal for this type of career?
It is definitely not an unrealistic goal, but it may take you a while to find exactly what you are looking for depending on what area you live in. In terms of work life balance, it would likely just depend on your employer.
@@theluckienurse from what I’ve seen the area i live in (New Orleans), the salary seems to mostly be in line with what I’ve seen nationally. I’m not necessarily concerned with making 100k+ right away but would probably like to get there after 10 years (less years if possible of course). My concern is that when I search for salaries online I get a lot of conflicting results. Some websites say that Medical and Health services managers make an average national salary of 100k+ whilst others say it’s like 70k. Other websites will say the salary is much lower at around 50-60k. This is often found on websites like zip recruiter. A position I was relatively interested in was nursing home administrator or assisted living administrator and I also find conflicting results here. Some salaries I see are 120k+ and others are 60k. I don’t even necessarily need a salary of 120k+ but was ideally looking for 90-100k (of course wouldn’t complain about more). Are these websites just bad info? Or maybe it’s taking into account positions with a bachelors degree? I was looking to go for a masters degree in MHA so maybe it’s different for that. I’m just kind of confused as to why there seems to be so much discrepancy with the pay online. Sorry for the long winded post but any insights would be greatly appreciated! Thank you
@@cameronfalgout2342 so it heavily depends on the area that you are in and the company. Bigger companies (Erickson is HUGE in my area.. and has multiple continuing care communities) will likely be able to pay a nursing home administrator or an assisted living administrator/manager well into the 6 figures while a smaller more mom and pop company will only be able to offer like 75k. The closer that you go to the city, the higher those ranges for both small and large companies will be. I used to work at a mid-size continuing care community in a nursing home/rehab center and the administrator was making somewhere in the $120k pay range with only like 2-3 years experience. Once I got my license (I was in a program that I didn’t finish…), they were willing to make me assistant administrator at around 75k. I live in the DC area. I would have been happy with that at the time, but other companies definitely would have paid me more. Honestly, it would just take going to job interviews and seeing what each company is willing to offer you.
what opportunities would completing an MHA or MBA open up down the line if you directly start medical school after completing your masters? Considering taking about a gap year or so before med school and was considering if getting a masters after just graduating with bachelors is worth it or not.
Hey! It could be, depending on what you would like to do with your degrees afterward. I think it is a great idea if you would like to open up your own medical practice down the line. Although you wouldn’t need to get an MHA to do that, it can help give you insight on what it would take to open and operate it. If you are into leadership but do not want to open your own practice, an MHA could give you an advantage in the future if you want to become a medical director or be in charge of a resident program at a hospital.
Hi I just graduated with a degree in healthcare administration but I’m having trouble figuring out how to take the state exam. Do you have any tips on how to go by it?
@@mariejatta2561 aw! Congratulations! I was on track to get a nursing home administrator license in Maryland. I did an administrator in training program and I actually sat for the exam. Ultimately it was not the path for me, but it is a really good path and I wish you nothing but the best of luck! A great resource that I did not use when I was studying for the exam (and I should’ve…) was Quizlet. There are so many flashcards available through Quizlet that has information that will likely be on your exam. Good luck!
Hi! So depending on what career path you choose, yes it can be stressful. Doing healthcare administration at an inpatient facility will typically have you working Monday through Friday, 9-5… but depending on the job, you will be taking work home. If you work at a facility that is open 24/7, and you are in leadership, they can call you for “emergencies” at literally any time. There are jobs and settings (like a clinic , doctor’s office, insurance company, etc.) that are less stressful and will give you a better work life balance though. Hope this helps!
@@user-wy4on8uj1t oh, and yes I enjoy it haha I went back to school and became a nurse, but my plan is to one day go back to administration. That is how much I enjoy it 😊
Absolutely! I’ve met managers with BA degrees in Healthcare Administration. It depends on the facility. Some want you to have a bachelors but many are okay with a bachelors degree and experience!!!
@@blingbyjessica I would recommend an MHA (Masters in Healthcare Administration or Masters in Healthcare Management) or a regular MBA (Masters in Business Administration). The MBA is more broad in case you change your mind and want to move out of healthcare later. But since the MHA is a business degree specific to healthcare, it will be easier to find jobs in healthcare right out of school!
There are a lot of remote opportunities available for administrate healthcare professions, and some jobs will have evening/night shift if it is with a 24/7 facility like a hospital… but most jobs would be day time (Monday- Friday) positions.
@@yadavmahendra6161 hi! I’m honestly not familiar with the track or job outlooks for pharmacology degrees - I’m sorry. I think overall an MHA MAY have more opportunities because if how broad it is.
Hello , I am starting courses to earn my associates in healthcare administration. I want to know what jobs will I be able to get, when I’m fresh out of school.
I will be starting school to earn my bachelor's degree in Healthcare Administration.
Congratulations and good luck! I think that it’s a great degree to have and it is a great field to enter!
@@theluckienurse ty
Is an MBA in Healthcare administration worth it?
Very informative. Thank you.
Thank you for watching!
Would love to see the video about different professions you can work in as a nurse but want to go back to school to get an MHA. If I’ve missed this video by chance, please let me know. Love your content btw…very professional!
Not a great suggestion! If you plan to make a video in the future… I have not made one yet!
@@theluckienurse I sense that you got autocorrected. God save us from auto-correct.
@@kerrimchayle1213 OMG!!! Thank you! I’m so sorry to @jes8203 !!!
I use voice texting a lot and must have not read what was typed out 🥴 I definitely meant to type “that IS a great suggestion. I have not made a video like that but I plan to make one in the future”! ❤️
@@theluckienurse I got you. Your energy did not match that sentence one bit. Love the videos BTW.
@@kerrimchayle1213 thank you so much 😊
What entry level career puts you on the path to COO or CEO? How would career progression look like?
Hey! So every organization is different. To be completely transparent, when you are looking at a CEO or even COO positions, a lot of those positions are appointed. There are definitely some organizations where you can work your way to the top and earn those top spots, but to be completely honest, a lot of those positions are usually appointed by somebody outside of the company who has connections or who may even be related to their predecessor. For most organizations, across different fields and not just healthcare, it is an unfair game…
Not every single organization is like this, and even for the ones that are, you can often work your way up pretty high. Even if you do not get as high as the COO or CEO, you can become a VP of a department or the head of a devision.
If you were looking specifically in healthcare, I would say the best thing that you can do is find an organization and get in to that organization in any department. Then once you are in, make sure to attend any events that you possibly can to network with in the company. So if there are marketing events, fundraisers, volunteer opportunities, etc. it is a good idea to attend as many of those as possible and net work with different department heads. That way, when organizations are looking to hire from within your name is in peoples minds.
Depending on your level of education and experience, even starting as a receptionist in an organization can be the first step on your career path. If a promotion comes up that is within your scope of practice and your skill set, apply to the job. Even if you do not get it, different department heads will now know that you are somebody who is looking to do more and you want to be promoted in the company.
For every company, the progression of a career can look different. It depends on the culture of the company, and how big the company is.
@@theluckienurse
Thanks for the detailed response. Im comparing healthcare administration to finance in terms of a long term career for me. In corporate finance you know pretty much the chain of progression analyst-manager-director-VP etc. Ive heard in the past that most Hospital CEO spots is filled by internal senior leadership most often the COO.
I want to retire early as well maybe around 45ish-50 so compensation is a big factor in the compensation honestly seemed low are there higher paying routes? ( compared to corporate finance where directors with 10-14yoe start getting 150k base, 25 bonus, and equity.
But of course its not all about pay but it is what would help achieve my personal goals as well.
@@Jayjr-jc2wi that makes sense… With healthcare, there is not always a clear path to the top. It really just depends what area of healthcare you were in and what organization you were at. There are hospitals, nursing homes (which sound random if you’re not in the world of healthcare, but it is very competitive and lucrative), rehab centers, outpatient centers… Healthcare is so broad and there’s so many different systems within the umbrella of healthcare. Specifically, when talking about hospitals, I also do not think that there is one clear path to the top.
I will say though, if you are looking to retire that early, I’m not sure if being a bigwig in a hospital setting is the right route to go. I have met with a few different hospital CEOs in my area, and all of them were older. I personally have never met a hospital CEO or COO as young as the age that you are looking to retire.
Of the higher ups that I know at hospitals, I know some that started the career in finance, I know a couple of nurses that went back to school for business… When it comes to those types of positions, it always seemed more about who you know than what you know. So networking would probably be more important than any one particular career path!
If you are just starting out, the most greased path towards C level would be MBA/MHA to an administrative fellowship as an early careerist immediately following your MHA. You will end up in meetings with people every week that would normally take someone 15 years of work to sit in on. These fellowships are Extremely competitive though, and they are looking for specific team fits, not necessarily just the most competitive candidate on paper. I for example did not get the admin fellowship I wanted despite over 5 years of relevant industry experience, tier 1 ivy undergrad, tier 1 grad school with 4.0 for MHA, veteran, tons of real and proven passion for the industry etc. I made it through 2/3 rounds. But I have a family and they could intuit that I wasn't going to move them for the fellowship. If you are a competitive candidate and just apply to everything you see in NAFCAS, and you're willing to move, you can get one and be on that path. Nobody but You is going to make all that happen though. It's your work. There's no such thing as just a direct path to C level unless your dad owns the company.
loved this video! I initially started watching your channel for your nursing school content, but I have ultimately decided to go into health services administration instead of nursing, at least for right now (even though i was accepted to start in the fall, i feel like now isn’t the right time) I currently work as a PCT at an HCA facility. Do you think this will be a good steppingstone while I finish my bachelors in health services administration? I definitely want to move into a more clerical/ administrative assistant hospital role after I graduate, but I am not sure if direct patient care experience will benefit me when searching for clerical roles within HCA facilities. I am also considering doing an accelerated BSN program (to go into nursing management and leadership) after my bachelor degree or going straight into getting an MHA, but I really don’t know. I have been so set on nursing so this change is a little bit difficult and I am searching for any answers and guidance that I can find! I really appreciate any advice you can give!
Hey! It sounds to me like you just want to be in healthcare and don’t necessarily need to or want to be doing direct patient care. If this is the case, I don’t think that you would benefit much from doing a nursing program. It’s always a bonus to have if you are in healthcare, but if you know that you want to be clerical or administrative, I would not advise you taking the time or spending the money to get a nursing degree.
You can have a very successful career in administration with your bachelors in health services administration. Depending the area that you live in, this may be enough, but I would personally advise you to further your education after this and get an MHA after getting some working experience working in administration. Direct patient care experience can be a bonus, but I know a lot of people that are successful in healthcare administration that do not have a background in direct patient care at all.
I hope that this helps 😊
Hello , I am starting courses to earn my associates in healthcare administration. I want to know what jobs will I be able to get, when I’m fresh out of school.
Hey! Helpful video, I am going to be getting my bachelors in finance and then my masters in health care administration. Do you think starting in finance would be a successful route also? or should I get my bachelors in health communications ( my uni doesnt have health administration major)
Thanks for watching! My personal opinion would be to go with a bachelors degree in finance instead of a bachelors degree in health communications. Finance is a lot more broad, and will make you more marketable. If you already plan on getting a masters degree in healthcare administration, then by the end you’ll already have a healthcare related degree anyway.
Hope this helps!
Hello, I have been heavily considering becoming a Medical and Health Services manager. I was looking for a job that has a pay range of 90k+ but the issue is I wanted to find a job with this type of salary that also provides a good work life balance. I would basically look for a job that provides a good salary with a regular schedule (with occasional extra hours for emergencies). Is this an unrealistic goal for this type of career?
It is definitely not an unrealistic goal, but it may take you a while to find exactly what you are looking for depending on what area you live in. In terms of work life balance, it would likely just depend on your employer.
@@theluckienurse from what I’ve seen the area i live in (New Orleans), the salary seems to mostly be in line with what I’ve seen nationally. I’m not necessarily concerned with making 100k+ right away but would probably like to get there after 10 years (less years if possible of course). My concern is that when I search for salaries online I get a lot of conflicting results. Some websites say that Medical and Health services managers make an average national salary of 100k+ whilst others say it’s like 70k. Other websites will say the salary is much lower at around 50-60k. This is often found on websites like zip recruiter. A position I was relatively interested in was nursing home administrator or assisted living administrator and I also find conflicting results here. Some salaries I see are 120k+ and others are 60k. I don’t even necessarily need a salary of 120k+ but was ideally looking for 90-100k (of course wouldn’t complain about more). Are these websites just bad info? Or maybe it’s taking into account positions with a bachelors degree? I was looking to go for a masters degree in MHA so maybe it’s different for that. I’m just kind of confused as to why there seems to be so much discrepancy with the pay online.
Sorry for the long winded post but any insights would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you
@@cameronfalgout2342 so it heavily depends on the area that you are in and the company. Bigger companies (Erickson is HUGE in my area.. and has multiple continuing care communities) will likely be able to pay a nursing home administrator or an assisted living administrator/manager well into the 6 figures while a smaller more mom and pop company will only be able to offer like 75k. The closer that you go to the city, the higher those ranges for both small and large companies will be.
I used to work at a mid-size continuing care community in a nursing home/rehab center and the administrator was making somewhere in the $120k pay range with only like 2-3 years experience. Once I got my license (I was in a program that I didn’t finish…), they were willing to make me assistant administrator at around 75k. I live in the DC area. I would have been happy with that at the time, but other companies definitely would have paid me more. Honestly, it would just take going to job interviews and seeing what each company is willing to offer you.
what opportunities would completing an MHA or MBA open up down the line if you directly start medical school after completing your masters? Considering taking about a gap year or so before med school and was considering if getting a masters after just graduating with bachelors is worth it or not.
Hey! It could be, depending on what you would like to do with your degrees afterward. I think it is a great idea if you would like to open up your own medical practice down the line. Although you wouldn’t need to get an MHA to do that, it can help give you insight on what it would take to open and operate it. If you are into leadership but do not want to open your own practice, an MHA could give you an advantage in the future if you want to become a medical director or be in charge of a resident program at a hospital.
Hi I just graduated with a degree in healthcare administration but I’m having trouble figuring out how to take the state exam. Do you have any tips on how to go by it?
Hey, which exam are you referring to and what state are you in? I did not have to take an exam once I finished my degree.
License Nursing home administrator, Wisconsin
@@mariejatta2561 aw! Congratulations! I was on track to get a nursing home administrator license in Maryland. I did an administrator in training program and I actually sat for the exam. Ultimately it was not the path for me, but it is a really good path and I wish you nothing but the best of luck!
A great resource that I did not use when I was studying for the exam (and I should’ve…) was Quizlet. There are so many flashcards available through Quizlet that has information that will likely be on your exam. Good luck!
@@theluckienurse thank you
Just curious, Do you enjoy it? I think this question is most important to me. Is it stressful?
Hi! So depending on what career path you choose, yes it can be stressful. Doing healthcare administration at an inpatient facility will typically have you working Monday through Friday, 9-5… but depending on the job, you will be taking work home. If you work at a facility that is open 24/7, and you are in leadership, they can call you for “emergencies” at literally any time. There are jobs and settings (like a clinic , doctor’s office, insurance company, etc.) that are less stressful and will give you a better work life balance though. Hope this helps!
@@user-wy4on8uj1t oh, and yes I enjoy it haha I went back to school and became a nurse, but my plan is to one day go back to administration. That is how much I enjoy it 😊
@@theluckienurse thank you.
Can I use my bachelor's degree in Healthcare Administration to be Medical Assistant Manager?
Absolutely! I’ve met managers with BA degrees in Healthcare Administration. It depends on the facility. Some want you to have a bachelors but many are okay with a bachelors degree and experience!!!
@@theluckienurse what masters degree would you recommend if someone wanted to be a Healthcare Manager or Healthcare Administrator
@@blingbyjessica I would recommend an MHA (Masters in Healthcare Administration or Masters in Healthcare Management) or a regular MBA (Masters in Business Administration). The MBA is more broad in case you change your mind and want to move out of healthcare later. But since the MHA is a business degree specific to healthcare, it will be easier to find jobs in healthcare right out of school!
@@theluckienurse ty
With this degree is there really night shift or remote work for you guys/??
There are a lot of remote opportunities available for administrate healthcare professions, and some jobs will have evening/night shift if it is with a 24/7 facility like a hospital… but most jobs would be day time (Monday- Friday) positions.
After b pharm which is the better option i don't won't to do mpharm any guidance??
@@yadavmahendra6161 hi! I’m honestly not familiar with the track or job outlooks for pharmacology degrees - I’m sorry. I think overall an MHA MAY have more opportunities because if how broad it is.
Hello , I am starting courses to earn my associates in healthcare administration. I want to know what jobs will I be able to get, when I’m fresh out of school.
Hi! I am making a video on this in a few weeks!