Brandel Chamblee Talks Golf Channel, The Distance Debate and More | NLU Pod, Ep 848
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Brandel Chamblee checks in with Soly ahead of next week's US Open at Pinehurst to talk through his preparation for broadcasting the tournament for NBC, the distance and golf course setup debates, backlash to his stance on LIV and a ton more.
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+1000 pts on my "appreciation for Brandal" meter and for how articulate he is.
I had to Laugh Out Loud when you broke in for an ad.
Great pod.
I understand how Brandel can be polarizing but for the most part his head and heart seem to be in the right place.
Ask his ex wife and kids
@@HeyBoff-oi7fu people break up dude 😂
Refreshing to hear a productive debate on a very complicated issue.
Brandel is the most well spoken and smartest guy in sports broadcasting. He can pearl clutch at times and I disagree with a few things but goddamn is he articulate, well thought and good at what he does.
the conversation about scoring being worse from better angles at every distance was very interesting
Are we very sure brandel knows Soly doesn’t work for the Fried Egg?
He and Soly have been directly critical of him about his distance ideas. Nothing to do with him being confused.
Love these long form interviews with those in professional golf. This and the Lee Trevino pod were so good.
I really enjoyed this podcast, two thoughtful people having a conversation about interesting topics. Rare in this day and age.
Great interview! Thank you, Chris and NLU for presenting it. Time well spent
I find Brandek to be a slippery, and slightly disengenuos debater. He constantly avoids ansewring direct questions by burying them in a legion of adjacent but unrelated arguments. I know he means well, but he still comes across like the guy who thinks he’s smarter than everyone else, when all he is is clever enough to defend whatever flag he’s planted in the ground. I don’t find it particularly compelling or honorable.
Came to say this. I think he means well and I believe he wants the best for golf, but the way he argues puts me off. I think soly could have held him more to stuff he was saying but it would have made the interview cringy. Great interview but I do think it shows how he avoids his own arguments when held to them and he does come off a little bit " im smarter so you're opinion is dumb" when some of the stuff came down to basic philosophical differences. It wasn't right or wrong.
@@majik16106 Yeah, totally agree on the nothing Soly could do or else it would have been cringey. The irony of it all is Brandel’s whole debating tactic is “whataboutism”, something he cited early on in the pod.
If you're going to criticise someone's statements, I'd suggest you proofread your comments before clicking the "reply" button. Your comments might be more interesting, but then, no, even without the spelling errors, you come across as someone who listens to someone for the sole purpose of forming your criticisms. It's neither interesting nor relevant.
@@j.w.matney8390 Meh, it happens. At least I’m not the kind of person who goes to comment sections to correct peoples typos.
Everyone who disagrees seems to get blocked.
Great interview. Equipment is getting easier to hit. Off center hit ball speeds are dramatically different now compared to even 10 years ago. Guys are getting faster and not worrying about hitting the center of the face.
Great stuff, Soly. Really enjoyed this one.
Nice job with the interview, Soly
Big Boy Pants Golf just did an interview with Mark Lye regarding Brandel, well worth a listen
Hell yes! Great job from you both!!
Many valid arguments and points on both sides. Great stuff
The timing and delivery of the Rhoback ad 😂
Hey Soly. Great video. When talking about challenging the best players, you should look at Merion 2013. A tight golf course not super long and no one broke par. Justin Rose won at +1. It was a great and exciting tournament.
this was a superb interview. only Solly could have done this with Brandel. You can argue with Brandel on his points of view but the man knows golf... as does Solly. Great content. Keep it up.
Need an uncut version of this haha
It’s funny how the fact that guys are hitting it so long and straight are both of your main points for and against the need for equipment change.
It wasn’t that long ago that players like Luke Donald, Brandt Snedeker, and Jim Furyk were top 10 players in the world.
It seems pretty much impossible to imagine that happening again anytime soon.
Exactly. Unless they make golf equipment proper for the game.
Totally agree that there needs to be an equipment and/or ball rollback for pros. The comp is MLB! MLB players don’t use metal bats, even college players have specific bats with exit velocity ratings that are lower than HS and travel ball. Baseballs are constantly monitored and controlled through testing and humidors… using steroids, Simone Biles, Olympic pools are terrible arguments and comps. The weekend warrior can still use fancy tech equipment and still appreciate what pros are doing at the highest level. Brandel is brutal…
IMO aluminum bats should be banned. Super dangerous.
The last 15ish minutes of the two talking about the real effect of people being assholes was super raw. Easy reminder just how human all these interactions internet actually are.
Absolutely heartbreaking-I have been HUGE fan of NLU since the beginning-Brandel may be one of the most detrimental people for the entire game of golf-even though he may be a mouthpiece for people behind the scenes. He is not helping the current state of game. Wish y’all would have steered away from someone who has caused so much harm to the game. Thought yall were better than this
Andy Johnson, known member of NLU
Soly has to get Scott Fawcett on.
Great interview. Well done.
Brandel is paid by The Channel -> The Channel is paid by equipment manufacturers (commercials) -> whatever manufacturers want is what Brandel will say
LOL you think club manufacturers are giving Brandel marching orders to say what exactly?
@@J_Phillz to oppose the rollback, as they have all publicly stated
Brandel is the last guy in the world who follows orders on what to say.
@@Rick-C-117 LOL. Vis-a-vis LIV
@@Rick-C-117your funny.
More water holes. That’s what is missing. Sucker pins and water holes. And I guess 6’ rough.
Keep the technology, but decrease the amount of holes. Everyone is wiped out after 14 holes anyway. Those last 4 holes are so time consuming/brutal.
Brandel thinks he is on the Fried Egg Podcast.
BANG
Brandel quoting Jordan Peterson at the end? One of his favorite intellectuals?
loved this!
Soly v Brandel match play video when?
“Thank you tiger woods” this guy was the biggest tiger hater……”Bryson is a phenom” this threw more dirt on that kid than anyone…… what a charlatan
Have him address his flip flop on LIV/players, which has got to be humiliating. You know… cuz he was so anti-LIV and stuff. He’s an a**hat. ROTFL!
Brandel accusing you of straw-manning his arguments when in the first 10 minutes he literally straw-manned your valid coverage ad complaints into you wanting the Golf Channel to operate philanthropically is sure some lack of self awareness
That doesn't mean he was wrong.
Brandel constantly talking over Soly is so annoying. Soly had to bail on his very first argument that tall rough is not the ONLY defense against elite golfers because Brandel wouldn’t just sit there and listen for two seconds. And for as much as Brandel wants to look at math, he doesn’t seem to understand that a ball roll back doesn’t create a linear reduction in yardage across all ball speeds. The effect of the reduction will not be nearly as dramatic for the average golfer as it is going to be for the pros. Ironically, he just counters the rollback with a straw man argument that the huge (non-existent) difference for recreational golfers will turn them off of the game.
Great conversation. Having been blocked by Brandel 3 years ago on X for a diff opinion about where golf was headed with LIV, I was very interested in his take on roll back.
he's right. I'm 69. I drove the ball long all my life, past all my peers. Leave the game alone. I am WORKING on getting it to 260...I live in Denver.
Change is the answer...
There is NO PROBLEM.
Why create one....?
Brandel, marshal the roll back support and make a difference...stop the change.
jsw
That’s your bias. We all want to hit it further. We need to look last that.
I dont want my 220 yard carry drives to go any shorter 😢
Brandel doesn't seem to understand you can roll the ball and equipment back and if you over do it, you can easily move the tees forward. If equipment keeps getting better and these guys are hitting it 450 yards, you make tons of historically great courses obsolete over night. Courses would run out of real estate trying to lengthen the courses to 8,500 yards.
Youth Baseball all the way through college baseball, the kids play with a metal bat. When you make the jump to the pros they give you a woke bat and then the real hitters separate themselves. Not to mention, you don't have to push the green monster back 75 feet to keep routine pop flies in play. Golf should look into doing something similar. A rolled back ball and Woods should come into play when you are looking to turn pro so we can preserve some of the historically great courses.
Love me some Brandel!
Yay boomer!
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I'd listen to this but Brandel blocked me on socials for having an opinion.
Bookmarks would be cool
weird seeing soly be called Chris
Brandel has no ability to listen to an argument that doesn’t fit perfectly into his stale ideologies. No ability to understand the nuance of the rollback discussion. Crazy to watch.
you might find yourself arguing brandel vs nlu but all we really need to know is both are clowns in different ways
if nlu is not about money, then they don't create all these shitty merch or fake reality content to scam people's $
Didnt watch just comment, chamblee is a bell end and i will never watch anything its on, instantly turn off anything its on
Brandel is an embarrassment to golf and was unable to compete on any circuit !
What tour do you play on then?
Hour 45 of more chamblee propaganda. Talk about not what anyone needs.
I need a Adult Content Warning with BC showing so much skin. #HotandBothered
Best conversation on the state of golf re:distance and rollback. More of this please!
I didn’t think I’d like liv but after watching a couple full rounds, I got hooked. I can understand if it’s not someone’s thing but I’m not a fan of the argument that it is wrong or bad for golf. As a capitalist, I think anyone should be allowed to create a product to compete with an existing product. In regards to human rights, does one need to agree with the politics of every company that they consume products from? Are American banks that sponsor pga events saints?
If you got hooked on Liv after watching a few rounds then you have the IQ of a child.
@@Rick-C-117 Get Brandel's bag out of your mouth. I can't hear you.
@@Rick-C-117 thanks for the discussion
Brandel put NLU out to pasture