A Midwinter Night's Dram Act 11: Quantity and Quality increase?
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- Опубліковано 12 лис 2023
- MWND is at an all time high of 180k bottles this year! We can only hope that the quantity increase also comes with a large quality increase after we hated act 10.
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Younger whiskey, less specific port barrels, higher price, less limited and way more competition. Im out this year. It was pushing it at 100.
True! I was already out last year when it went up to 150.
And they don’t even use rendezvous to make it anymore. A total scummy move all around that is worse for the end customer
Was lucky enough to find a bottle of this deliciousness for $99.99. Guess someone forgot to update their pricing list
I have a friend who owns a liquor store and they don't update their prices based on current market. It is based on the price they paid for it at the time, so you got really lucky to find a good price for it lol
Justifying this bottle at 150 is insane. So many other options that are easier to find, at least as good, for close to half the price.
Wild to think that essentially everything I used to love about this brand is gone now.
Imagine releasing nearly 200,000 bottles of a product and people/stores still over charging on top of the already hefty $150 MSRP price tag.
Yep. Local spot has it for $200. LMFAO.
Last year, a store around me had it for 250. it was okay at 90, but they priced me out at 150. too much good whiskey out there to overpay for this one.
@@Cokebeardyeah stuff starting to sit a lot longer than it did a few years back let them sit
@@apeekintimedo you live in Utah? It's flying off the shelves in Southern California
I saw this “on sale” for $149 yesterday. Right next to it was a Michter’s 10 for $165. Guess which one I picked up? 🥃🤘😎
I bought this bottle once because it was my first bottle of MWND. It was $150 at Total Wine, until last week Total Wine decided to bump the price up to $199. This is 100% a pass from me for now on.
Agreed.. not worth the $$
I bought a bottle 3 weeks ago at Total for 165, last week I went in and they had raised the price to 199. Insane gouging.
Same. Bought first at 149, then got one for friend at 199. Gougers
Total Wine sucks for it’s over charging customers.
Being a Grand Reserve member really has little benefit anymore. If you “win” their lottery it is only to over pay for a bottle.
Upping the price sucks but keep in mind liquor stores have to adjust their pricing depending on how their distributors charge them per bottle. If the price went up then I'd say stop bitching at the liquor stores and start bitching to the distributors and to High West themselves. Most liquor stores up the price based on what they are being charged per bottle, it went up in my local Total Wine and other liquor stores in the area too.
I went to total wine yesterday to grab a bottle of AMWND and they were asking $199!! I almost turned it down but my liver was saying "Just do it Garett and if it's not good, don't buy it again". I'm very happy to say Act 11 is soooo much better than Act 10 by a mile!
Hey! The pipe made its first appearance!!
Yep agree with many commenters. $150 for that product, especially when you consider it will be inflated everywhere to $250-300 regardless, is absurd. Out.
I bought act 10 last year and it was my first MWND ever and it was good initially the few pours I had last year, since then I’ve had pours the past two weeks and I gotta say it’s really good! I’m far from a rye guy but this bottle is the first pour I find myself pouring as of late (usually 1 pour a night). If an act 10 pops up in secondary groups I’m in I’d definitely double down and buy another as I find it enjoyable. Will be hunting the 11 though as long as it’s state min.
Would love to see you guys blind this against some similar bottles - maybe Saganore sherry finish and four gate Perry Perry. Would be interesting results.
At 150 I'll just get the Sagamore anyway. Some stores still have the Sherry Sag in MD
MWND fans can enjoy. Bottle was barely worth $100 MSRP two years ago.
Totally agree, Act 10 was a huge let down and we were happy to see Act 11 back to the MWND we expect it to be when we reviewed it. Cheers!
I saw it at a grocery store last week that typically doesn't play games with pricing at $174.99. Hard pass. With taxes that would get close to $200 all in. I can't justify that amount.
Bought the 10 & 11 and opening them this Christmas season when kids come home.
I love this
95% rye, 5% barley malt from MGP;
80% rye, 20% malted rye from HWD
This is the makeup of batch 11. According to their newsletter it is finished in both ruby and tawny port. All releases typically are finished in both although some specify french oak or french oak port.
This years dram is so much better than 10.
Still disagree on the 23 bourye being one of the best they have made. Blind it with the older bouryes and see if it holds up.
I passed on it at $200 last week at a store in CA. Left there with a store pick of High West Cask Strength for $70 instead.
Christmas in a glass 🎄
Huge citrus punch to this. This was my first bottle of MWND so I don't know if that's expected or not but I was surprised. Almost felt like I was drinking a Belgian witbier. Not complaining, just surprised.
I almost bought this for 158 last night, but I’m glad I didn’t port finished didn’t like the bowman port finish
Uhhhhhh I think you may not be up to date on Dickel, there’s definitely Dickel rye.
Couple of corrections to this video.
This year's (Act 11) MSRP is $125 as was last years (Act 10). Not $150.
Last year, High West produced 129,852 total bottles: 115,596 of Act 10 + 14,256 of Encore. So, yes, last years' production was over 100k.
This year, High West produced 189,684 bottles. As there was no special release this year, the full lot was used for Act 11.
125 is the utah msrp. Nationwide it is 150
I just picked up a bottle, having never tried any previous version, or any High West at all. I like it, but I agree with those who draw the line at $100 max for this one.
Idk man. I got one and i think it delicious. Of course it was free bc it was a gift but its tasty and i dont even like rye. I was actually awkwardly thanking my step dad for gifting it to me bc im not a fan of rye but when i tried it 3 days ago, im 1/3 through the bottle. But the price is absolutely ridiculous. True dat
Constellation just CAPITALIZING on the name lol
biscoff cookies!!!!!! YAS!!!!!
Grabbed an 11, this will be my first time trying any of the releases, glad to hear it's back on track. Here is a question, what does the Scene number designate?
Scene number is just the bottling run.
Tastes like a band-aid on the back end. I really can't get down with that. I hate it
I was 5 minutes late to getting a bottle. Another store I went to, they told me that I was 2 weeks late. One day I’ll get to try it!
Man they dropped 189k bottles, can't be that hard to scare up a $150 bottle right?
Wondering when my name will roll in the credits, love the content, and absolutely love the new merch
Been stacked! We'll update that very soon I promise!
Got one for 170. Not mad about it.
Not gonna lie I saw this at Total Wine for $200 and laughed and walked away. Listen, I respect them for being early adopters of the port finished rye, but there are so many other port finished ryes out there that I refuse to buy one of these anymore
The first MWND is ever tried was A10, and I wasn’t a fan. Now finding out A10 was considered one of the worst. I’m interested in trying A11 but I hope to find a pour first.
Bought 2 bottles at High West Saloon for 125. Cheers!
I bought one here in Utah for $124. I wanted to wait for this review before i opened it. I definitely dont hate HW but they dont seem to be getting better as they get more expensive. I guess in the exception of 11 over 10.
Yeah I agree. I was a fan until the prices started going up.
@@1882dmac i still love their american prairie bourbon for a daily sipper. I enjoy their double rye as well. But all the specialities are starting to hit above my budget and below their price point.
Act 9 > Act 11 > Act 10
$90 $150 $150
B+ B- GT(F)OH High West
If Act 11 was $100 it could be a B+…. Maybe.
At $150 I expect a helluva lot more of an “experience” than what I got
Do they even use rendezvous anymore? I don't think they call it out anymore?
My store got 30% percent less of this versus last year and the price did increase by $10 over last year.
Lol! I haven’t heard “whacky tebacky” in decades. And are you sure you are not from the south?
2022 release (Act 10) had 115,000 bottles made.
Man that's wild, huge jump yo 180k
Do yourself a favor and if it's released again this year grab a Sagamore PX Sherry cask finish for around 80 instead of MWND.
That is a very good bottle. Sagamore also released a port finished, at least last year they did. That one would line up more with MWND.
I feel like 10 opened up very nicely since last year, but 9 is still better. I will open my bottle of 11 on Thanksgiving to share. I'll also compare the 3. I have multiple bottles of 9 and 10, not gonna do it this year. This is not a $150 bottle IMO, but I do enjoy if for the Holidays, so as long as I can get it for around retail I'll keep buying one. I paid $162 for mine, but every other bottle I've seen has been between $206 and $300.
did you prefer the 10 over the 11 because I did
MSRP in Utah is $125
Lotus Biscoff cookies are way better👍
It's only $125 at the High West Saloon in Park City UT
"This smells like 95.5 but not shitally" - Best YT commentary in history.
My understanding was they had been using older sourced MGP for 1 thru 9 and then they ran out for #10 and had to scramble as witnessed by your guys noses and palettes. Sounds like they got their mojo back with 11.
6 is still to this day the worst they've ever done but holy shit is 11 a comeback
2/3 of the syllables … showing off that IQ Dan, good job . Stay humble
Dans pretty smart, tawny barrels would definitely be more funky (sour).
Dan, if you ever go full Minnick, with a cravat, I'm out.
Imma go a full Dan and there ain't nothing fancy about it
Blind for all the port finished ryes you can find!
Gotta love an increase in production AND price. 😕
Dickel does make a rye iirc t8ke from r/bourbon was able to get a sib of it
I agree with your assessment. 10 was horrible. 11 was much better. 9 was likely my favorite of the three.
On the website the price is $124.99.
The state minimum in Michigan is 149.99
@@TheWoolyninja4 "MSRP" is so relative... $150 would be tough, but at least this year's release is proving a better bottle if this is an expression you were into in previous years.
@@barrettdoran5203 125 is the price at the distillery
Chapter 10 was my first, and last, MWND. Had to drop $150 to get it last year, and wondered about all the hype, so won’t risk it again for even more $.
I’ll go with Sagamore Rye finished in Sherry. They also have a port finish, and both are as good or better for less, IMO
Sagamore port finish doesn't have shit on act 11 BUT I'd always recommend trying it at a bar for a reasonable price before buying a bottle if you didn't like a previous release
@@BourbonJunkiesI blinded a friend who is a MWND snob with those two last year and he swore the Sagamore was MWND. The price to value ratio kicks the shit out of MWND.
@@BourbonJunkies i mean sagamore port has beaten midwinters fairly easily in blinds before tbf
Luckily it’s still $125 at utah state liquor stores
I loved 9 and that was the first MWND I had more than just a little of. Obviously 10 was a step down but if you have a comparison between 9 and 11 I’d love to hear it
10 could've been finished in white port barrels based off what you were saying with the green vs red grape.
I believe 10 was tawny and port or something like that
Act 10 was 115,000 bottles
Its red grapes lol
A store around me just put a bottle out and they want $289.99 - Ummmm - No!
even at 150, ima pass. had act 9, really good. got 10 as well but below msrp so didnt feel terrible about grabbing it. respectfully, high west built its reputation not being a premium brand and they're acting like they're four gate now. I loved their old picks, and I'm a fan of their cask strength as well at the price point, but naw I aint chasing these anymore sadly
$275 AUD In Australia 😅
Would rather just have Sagamore Sherry🤷🏻♂️
Thought this was better than 10 but still lacking and disappointing for the price sagamore port this year is going to absolutely wipe the floor with this
Paid $135 for mine and I'm in all day at $135.
Same! I grabbed another at $150
When do i get my name added to the credits?! Lol cheers guys!
We've been so busy I promise this will be done soon
@BourbonJunkies haha please don't worry about you guys have alot going on!
"youre pink on the inside but we say youre white" 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nailed the logic here
Has anyone gotten their hands on a high west prisoner’s share?
Costco has it $129
For all those saying it’s simple supply and demand economics, explain MWND increasing supply but my TW’s increasing price to $200.
That's called a retailer marking up a product from MSRP.
This would make a fine Double Rye finished in Port. $55 bottle. This as a MWND, mediocre. Can’t recommend paying $150+ for this at all. Dan calling it great whiskey is concerning.
It literally compares to and may even be better than act 4 which is my favorite I've had. I have 40 double rye picks (even a couple mwnd double ryes) I'd still put this up there with the best of those (and some of those have 400-600 secondary values)
No one loved 10 and i don't get it I thought it was great definitely on par with 9 which is only other one I've owned. Actually poured some this weekend for first time in 6+ months and it was even better than I remembered originally. I blinded it against four gate port perry perry, michters CS rye and Sagamore port finish and it was my winner. idk maybe I got a good bottle of it if that's a thing that happens.
Still haven't seen 11 by me for under $200. It's $200, $249 or $299 everywhere by me no shot gonna wait it out
5:11 this week
Dickel does have Rye. Recently went to the distillery and they were talking about it. No mass release under Dickel name yet, but i wouldnt be shocked if some were sourcing rye from Dickel.
Around MPLS it costs 300 dollars
I just dropped $199 at Total Wine Minnetonka. They have 3 left.
I got it for $149.99 at Hy-Vee in Plymouth@@scottgilbertson3112
Lol I think I maybe got to the label on my bottle of act 10....just can't do it. 150 is way too fucking steep for these bottles. 10 was the first I got and is definitely the last
Is that the first time Shawn actually apologized for something? Must be the reduced amount of daylight this time of year...
Still passing on it for the price.
150 for a slightly over finished 92 proof?
I mean price-wise they are starting to compete with Michters 10yr and you can’t tell me the MWND is that level of good?! I get it Michters is a SiB but still, 10yr old Kentucky rye vs… 7yr? Finished Utah rye?
I do appreciate the bump in production. I will say that.
If it was 100 -110 I’d be more in line with Dan. As it stands I have to side with Sean.
I love the idea of a higher proof but they never have and I doubt they will honestly. Double rye MWND picks were great for this very reason
Woo hoo
unpopular opinion: Act 10 was superior port finish
Hard pass for me. All these brands are pricing themselves out of most of their customers reach.
100% This
Just opened this this week and tried with friends. It’s one of the worst whiskeys I’ve ever bought. I probably would pass on it even at $50. It is one note of port with 0 complexity.
I had a chance to grab one last week at $199. I passed.
So little out there worth that price point
I was ok paying $90 for Acts 8 and 9. But no F'knig way was I spending $150 on Act 10 last year or 11 this year. Almost 200K bottles??? Nahhh 😂😂😂
I will happily take 10 off your hands
smells like butter popcorn, grapes, holidays, ginger bread...........tastes like cinnamon, wine, ginger snaps, and a black strap molasses !!! hit of sourness......................…………… give me a Fuckîng break
What
So what your saying is.....not worth the $150.
Parkers Heritage 2023 kisses this underwhelming overpriced release on the forehead...Cheers 🥃😎
Review was good but it a pass for price
"I'm gonna Grape ya in the mouth!"
not a chance im buying at 150
Just saw today for $159, I passed.
I ended up passing on this due to the price tag for a 5 (ish) year rye. Also it was rumored that port wine was use to cut the harshness of the young rye. Not the barrel...the wine itself
Specially because when the bottle cost $80, it was a 16 year rye. Fail for High West
Tastes like a band-aid. It's terrible and will sit on my shelf nearly full for life. Probably get poured down the drain eventually.
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The Bourbon Judge had already put this on his list of things he will not be buying. He said it is not worth the price for what you get.
Disagree but we all have different taste buds. This is the best MWND in years and at this point $130 for a limited (using the price people in the comments are saying) isn't very high. Agree higher than it used to be but everything seems to be right now.
MWND is all hype like Blantons, not worth the MSRP or secondary prices.
MWND is terrible. Hasn't been good since batch 4 or 5. It's so bad I can't physically swallow it
We literally tried batch 4 against this, I think the finish on 11 is actually better than batch 4. Batch 4 feels so much more 95/5 youthy spicy rye.
@BourbonJunkies I want to believe lol after last year I'm jaded. I dont know if I can ever forgive them haha.