Love that Mike Ashley story. Spending years mid pack but not hopping on, then passing everyone because of a drug test must be a pretty wild feeling. Bet his competition looked at him differently after that. If you toss any one of these guys into reddit "natty or juice" you'd get 99%+ of people saying there's no chance that they're natural. I think it's possible that a few of them weren't, but ALL of them? Statistically unlikely. Natural limit of the best of the best is way higher than most people think. There are some real freaks out there.
I realize how much work that is and almost impractical but I wish a conversation like this had picture overlays, it would be cool to send to lifters who are kind of unaware of what the natural bodybuilding scene is like.
This should be interesting. I don't know many natural bodybuilders other than the UA-cam guys. Since I've been listening to Steve from Revive Stronger, my respect for natural bodybuilding has grown when I see how hard he works at it and what you can do as a natural over years. You can really see the growth over years of natural bodybuilders even though it is a lot slower than juiced bodybuilding.
@@ericjames7819 All depends on your standards. Yes, you'll be smaller than if you did drugs, but you also...don't have to take drugs. In the real world, guys like Steve look very impressive, the only time "can have a little muscle" is true is on social media when comparing to enhanced guys, but that's a very niche case.
Shout out to Frederik Ipsen. I know he lost to Benjamin, but god damn, his back double-bi is out of this world. So much mass and utterly peeled. For the future, Samuel Hartman deserves a mention - incredible shape and size, plus a true artist and bb nerd.
Great share, gentleman! What about a freakiest body parts on natural bodybuilders video? What are the biggest arms, historically, in natural bodybuilding (as an example)? 🤝💪
Was checking out Philip Recardo Jr and looks to me like some of those crazy leg veins are varicose. Not to say he wasn't shredded he absolutely was and looked incredible... just pointing that out
Is there any way you guys could put a list of the mentioned bodybuilders in the description? I'm pretty new to the natural competitive scene and trying to find pictures of them to follow along is a bit difficult :)
Paul Jean Guillaume. He Was I won of the first natural bodybuilders in the IFBB with Ashely. That Won the World Championships when it was drug tested back in the 80s. He has beautiful shape and condition! I remember Bernard Sealy competing at the Olympia around 1990 when it was drug tested, but he definitely did not have the condition of the modern-day Naturals.
I think it’s because they said in the beginning they would only consider people who competed in a legit drug tested federation, which I guess Kai Green did before going IFBB.
Love that Mike Ashley story. Spending years mid pack but not hopping on, then passing everyone because of a drug test must be a pretty wild feeling. Bet his competition looked at him differently after that.
If you toss any one of these guys into reddit "natty or juice" you'd get 99%+ of people saying there's no chance that they're natural. I think it's possible that a few of them weren't, but ALL of them? Statistically unlikely.
Natural limit of the best of the best is way higher than most people think. There are some real freaks out there.
I realize how much work that is and almost impractical but I wish a conversation like this had picture overlays, it would be cool to send to lifters who are kind of unaware of what the natural bodybuilding scene is like.
This should be interesting. I don't know many natural bodybuilders other than the UA-cam guys. Since I've been listening to Steve from Revive Stronger, my respect for natural bodybuilding has grown when I see how hard he works at it and what you can do as a natural over years. You can really see the growth over years of natural bodybuilders even though it is a lot slower than juiced bodybuilding.
It's a bit demotivating. With years of work you can have a little muscle and be ripped.
@@ericjames7819 All depends on your standards. Yes, you'll be smaller than if you did drugs, but you also...don't have to take drugs. In the real world, guys like Steve look very impressive, the only time "can have a little muscle" is true is on social media when comparing to enhanced guys, but that's a very niche case.
It’s clearly Mike O Hearn.
We all know it's Jason Blaha 😌
Great podcast! Wish there was an article to follow this podcast. Like a short historical document. Want to research all of these athletes.
Shout out to Frederik Ipsen. I know he lost to Benjamin, but god damn, his back double-bi is out of this world. So much mass and utterly peeled. For the future, Samuel Hartman deserves a mention - incredible shape and size, plus a true artist and bb nerd.
Thanks to longevity muscle podcast for interviewing most the guys mentioned
Great share, gentleman! What about a freakiest body parts on natural bodybuilders video? What are the biggest arms, historically, in natural bodybuilding (as an example)? 🤝💪
1. Also add Jim Cordova & Levi Burge to this discussion
Was checking out Philip Recardo Jr and looks to me like some of those crazy leg veins are varicose. Not to say he wasn't shredded he absolutely was and looked incredible... just pointing that out
Great and interesting video! I've read Ron Williams is also one of the most decorated natural bodybuilders in the world. Would he make your list?
Loving this so far! More content like this
Wish you guys would have brought the pictures and showed the audience while you were debating this.
Doug miller was an absolute animal
Is there any way you guys could put a list of the mentioned bodybuilders in the description? I'm pretty new to the natural competitive scene and trying to find pictures of them to follow along is a bit difficult :)
I’d like to see a full podcast on the rise of the euros especially the team evo athletes
@Team3DMJ
Big thank you for the mention and shoutout 😊 👍🏾
Paul Jean Guillaume. He Was I won of the first natural bodybuilders in the IFBB with Ashely. That Won the World Championships when it was drug tested back in the 80s. He has beautiful shape and condition! I remember Bernard Sealy competing at the Olympia around 1990 when it was drug tested, but he definitely did not have the condition of the modern-day Naturals.
what do you think about john hansen, you guys? (first INBA Natural olympia winner). he was to me one of the most impressive naturals ever.
You guys are forgetting Meschek and Magnum McCrae who has won 3 Yorton Cups
We all know Matt ogus was the one to put natty bodybuilding on the map
What about Nsima Inyang
Gotta be Jay Cutler
What about Patrick Teutsch?
Why isn't natty ronnie in the conversation?
I think it’s because they said in the beginning they would only consider people who competed in a legit drug tested federation, which I guess Kai Green did before going IFBB.
Cleavland has defeated both David Kaye and Shevon
doug miller is one good thing SDSU has going for it lolol
Ronnie Coleman. No contest
Best natural bodybuilder, thats like saying who is the best honest politician? No one knows if they are natural really. Its rubbish.
Get rid of the piss cups and polygraphs. The true natty test is if they look DEL in a hoodie.
weight classes are whether you wear M L or XL