Sim S. wait...macs have hardware better than any PC and special software to boost the GPU ram. They are way better for gaming and have never been matched but pc
When I saw the title I giggled a little bit, because it says "Latency as fast as possible"... get it? Cause Latency is a delay... and because... you know what, never mind.
Fun fact: That delay in newscasts? More often a result of "Looklives" than actual satellite transmission on local stations. A looklive is pretty simple, pre-record it and include a few seconds of nodding your head or gesturing in the video so they can break from live newscasts. (The dead giveaway is "Back to you" instead of "Back to you, " But if it's a nightly newscast, they can even include the name since the anchor is the same.
TPCast wireless addon for the Vive adds less than 2ms latency (not possible to notice) due to the fact there is no processing (compression), all the data is transmitted raw.
I do have to say things are getting better. I drove a few cars with back up cameras years ago and noticed latency so when I bought a 15 impreza I thought it'd be the same(and that's fine, don't completely rely on just the camera) but it's actually got no noticeable latency. my dad's 15 Dart has a small noticeable latency but really good tbh and same with his truck. now if we could just get a switch to keep the camera on while driving, that would be great.
Audible is awesome. I just wish that it could do more than just Audio books. If you buy a book on audible you can ONLY use it as an Audio Book. Even if you wanted to, you can't read along with it.
Latency due to speed of light limitation is >21ms on a 6300km gaming over the pond. So the start of the video is really misleading if you miss the annotation. That's also one reason why satellite is much worse - distance jumping signal out to space is far longer than the cables.
Luke, speaking of typing up TPS reports, did you get the memo? Yea, it's just that we are now putting cover sheets on all our TPS reports. So, if you could just start doing that, that would be greaaat.
How about an "As Fast As Possible" on Client Side Hit detection in video games. The thing that makes you "get shot around corners" in video games. I actually know, but I think it would be an interesting topic, for people who are not already aware. Goes with the latency/ping stuff too.
(Not entirely sure of how correct the following statement is) The 'laser' (not actually a laser) continuously scans across the screen no matter what it is receiving. There is still 'processing' of course, but it never goes through any sort of digital system. The way it decodes the input signal is mostly unknown to me, but it's all analog hardware that the signal is passing through with no (or very little) digital logic between the input signal and the scanning laser. Old TV's and transmission signals were based on lines, not pixels. The timings had to be pretty accurate, but you could imagine the input signal as just a voltage that represents what color/intensity to make the laser at any given point in time while it's tracking along the screen. P.S. The earliest CRT-based televisions were made in Germany in 1934, so there couldn't have been any sort of digital processing. Also, it's really early in the morning right now, so I may not be able to think straight. Whatever.
Dah me. It is an electron gun, not a laser. I looked at this sort of stuff years ago. There is still processing that is involved, whatever it is digital or analog. It is the processing that converts the radio/video input, into something that the electron gun can utilize. The electron gun runs on thousands of volts. The rest of the tv doesn't.
Electricity doesn't travel at "nearly the speed of light". Electrons travel quite slowly, but they push each other as a chain so it seems like when you switch on the light, it's instantaneous but the electrons were already there in the wire
1:00 Hm, the speed of an electromagnetic wave traveling through copper/air _is_ the speed of light... in that medium. Just because it's not as fast as the speed of light in a vacuum doesn't mean it's something else.
I've been thinking about latency a lot, the stress of it over the years, with the micro waiting for pages to load, and video games to load, and how it was not something in life back in the 90s.
Can you do a video on processors and front side buses. Particularly what some of the math boils down to (such as a 5 to 3 speed of ram ratio). That might work as a quickie video. Like just explain and hit the highlights.
Well both travel the speed of light. Just the medium is denser thus there is more distance for them to travel. They are not technically slower. I guess for the general public it is much easier to say slower. Just thought I'd put this out there.
The speed of light is actually a real contributor to at least internet latency. c = ~300,000km/s, circumference of the earth = ~40,000km. So it takes light 130ms to circumnavigate the earth. So if you connect to a server at the exact opposite side of the earth ~20k km away and you're going to measure ping (round-trip time), it will be at the very best be in the 130ms range, and with out current knowledge of physics is not going to get lower. It's remarkable that today it isn't even that much more.
I’m trying to learn more about the degree to which video chat latency restricts the ability for musicians to play a song together via Skype, FaceTime, etc. Is there a measurement of today lowest latency possibilities? Also, a measurement of the specific amount of latency time that would be so short that the brain would consider instantaneous?
3ghz cpu has a 0,3ns latency to register. (1/hz=latency) cache has about 1-10ns delay (depending on lvls) ram has about 10-100ns delay (most simple request, longer request take longer ofcourse) ssd has about 1us(microseconde)-100us hdd 1ms(milli) to 10ms internet 10ms-500ms
Its a aproxomation. Each and every ram and ssd has there own latency. Whould have been to long of a list. And nothing can be faster then cpu as the cpu is the one that sends data to the cach.
Another example would be snail mail. The closer you are to the person you're sending the message to, the quicker they'll get it to respond. If the recipient lives cross country, it'll take longer to get to them to respond.
Electricity cannot and does not travel anywhere near the speed of light. The reason your lights come on almost instantly when you flip a switch is due to line saturation. IE the electrical line between the two ends is full of electrons. When you flip the switch there is an electric field generated which causes electrons to move from one end to the other. This pressure pushes new electrons in, while pushing the ones at the opposite end out at the same time. If there were no electrons on the line, it would take quite a while to get your lights to turn on.
The worst latency I experience on a regular basis is credit card terminals. For whatever reason, it is disorienting when the "ink" on the screen significantly lags the stylus with which I'm trying to write my signature.
Can latency cause a program crash if set too high? (high = less demand on the CPU, I think 🤔) the program is PCDJ... an app for playing music - Dj'ing. The crash seems to occur after the PCDJ search engine has been used - could this be related to the latency being set too high in the program please??
I love how the stock image at 0:13 seconds in is a couple of guys playing xbox 360 on an imac......yeah right that's some bs....even the guy in denim is like eyyyy that isn't right
(pedant mode on) Ping is one of the tools used to measure round trip time (RTT), which is usually measured in milliseconds. This means that saying I have 60 ms ping its like saying I have 30 km/h speedometer
0:06 explained Erotic asphyxiation or breath control play is the intentional restriction of oxygen to the brain for the purposes of sexual arousal. This sexual practice is variously called asphyxiophilia, autoerotic asphyxia, hypoxyphilia. The term autoerotic asphyxiation is used when the act is done by a person to themselves. Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper. The erotic interest in asphyxiation is classified as a paraphilia in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association.
I think I saw a pun here: the reason of put Dennis in the thumbnail is saying that at the same speed of Luke reading this comment will take around 1.5 times length for Dennis to read. Latency right there.
Okay now I am legit scared. This is the fourth time when I explain some concept to a friend and within hours of me explaining, a fast-as-possible episode comes out on that exact topic... Was just explaining what makes monitors better then tvs for gaming today.
2:44 how would cameras have less latency than mirrors. Don't mirrors have "0 latency" coz, they just reflect light. Whereas a camera would obviously have some lag due to "internal processing" in the camera?
I remember the internet guy setting up my router and I told him I want my computer close to the router so I could hook it up with an Ethernet cable. He said "Why? Wifi is just as fast as Ethernet." I laughed inside.
History of the common computer mouse (the ones you use on your Super-fast rendering machines [well, not really fast, but fast] {and i have the new Cyberpower gaming mouse as well as the new CherryMX keyboard from them})
Not true. Electricity only travels about 3mm per second. Its effect is so fast because when a citcuit is closed all the electrons in a length of conductors start to move very nearly at once
This is tech*QUICKY*! I feel like the recent episodes have been really slow. The subject being about something that causes things to be slow is no excuse.
Trying to play on xbox live while stationed in Korea was irritating as hell. No way to choose a locally populated server.... and the time difference combined with connecting to servers in California made for interesting occurrences in Titanfall/Forza Horizon, lol.
i moved in august and got a 200/100 ftth there.. it's so damn worth it.. the only copper in my network is basically a 50 cm lan cable from the fibre modem to the router and some meters lan cable to my pc.. i cut my ping to my favorite game in half and got a ping of 4ms to the google dns..
The name of the video sounds weird.
Anybody else see what I'm trying to say?
Ye, should be Latency as slow as possible.
L'Fap.
Ha.
That was a good one!
Raul pointing out an oxymoron.
3 guys gaming on a mac? What reality was that photo taken?
stock image reality
drink15 and playing with xbox controllers, seems legit
Shitty 360 controllers
Its funny!
You can game on Mac, just not highest settings
Who else came here to see Dennis?
Darrin Ramlochan I came on Dennis
I do
Here.
Thats the only reason
I want Dennis to host an episode now. Only reason I clicked.
Why would they add Denis to the thumbnail and not have him in the video?
Red Eye because LTT
when you don't finish the video
Perhaps I should rephrase that, *not have him throughout the whole video
Because it gets views.
only reason i clicked on the video
Dennis deserves his own video!
He's got plenty.
naota3k not enough
I clicked this thumbnail just for him
@@_Sigfried_ same
0:12 gaming on an Imac come on be real with the stock images
Sim S. wait...macs have hardware better than any PC and special software to boost the GPU ram. They are way better for gaming and have never been matched but pc
Dylan Christensen gr8 b8
Dylan Christensen tell me you are troll pls. PLEASE!
SkeleCrafter yea XD
Ikr. These laymen will believe anything.
When I saw the title I giggled a little bit, because it says "Latency as fast as possible"... get it? Cause Latency is a delay... and because... you know what, never mind.
you have the same social knowledge.. umm.. lacking? like me?.. umm. nevermind
lmao
What a nerd
@@laphtrahddis Why is your class and roll number in your profile? 😂😂
@@pranavtaysheti7858 cringy indian schools
Fun fact: That delay in newscasts? More often a result of "Looklives" than actual satellite transmission on local stations.
A looklive is pretty simple, pre-record it and include a few seconds of nodding your head or gesturing in the video so they can break from live newscasts. (The dead giveaway is "Back to you" instead of "Back to you, " But if it's a nightly newscast, they can even include the name since the anchor is the same.
Thumbnail click bait.
nope
Link_Jumper yup.
maxpayne28 It was parte of the video
How is it clickbait if they showed a part of the video in the thumbnail?
Dennis fans are disappointed.
A low latency explanation of latency. Very nice.
"BUT IT WAS A BOOM, HEADSHOT!" I love this editor
Just here for the Pure Pwnage and Office Space references.
Who else clicked immediately because of Dennis?
Me
everyone did
Even me
I'm a simple man. I see Dennis in the thumbnail, I click.
When is Dennis gonna do a Techquickie episode?
TPCast wireless addon for the Vive adds less than 2ms latency (not possible to notice) due to the fact there is no processing (compression), all the data is transmitted raw.
i thought Dennis was hosting this one... I am disappointed
I do have to say things are getting better. I drove a few cars with back up cameras years ago and noticed latency so when I bought a 15 impreza I thought it'd be the same(and that's fine, don't completely rely on just the camera) but it's actually got no noticeable latency. my dad's 15 Dart has a small noticeable latency but really good tbh and same with his truck. now if we could just get a switch to keep the camera on while driving, that would be great.
Gaming on a mac wtf 0.13
I wouldn't bother.r
Nathan b It all begun on a Mac.
Audible is awesome.
I just wish that it could do more than just Audio books.
If you buy a book on audible you can ONLY use it as an Audio Book. Even if you wanted to, you can't read along with it.
Latency due to speed of light limitation is >21ms on a 6300km gaming over the pond. So the start of the video is really misleading if you miss the annotation. That's also one reason why satellite is much worse - distance jumping signal out to space is far longer than the cables.
Technically, processing time is still how fast an electrical signal can get from point A to point B
Luke, speaking of typing up TPS reports, did you get the memo? Yea, it's just that we are now putting cover sheets on all our TPS reports. So, if you could just start doing that, that would be greaaat.
Importance of optics over sensor technology for image capturing! (Maybe compare a 4K webcam with plastic lens to 1080 with premium glass?)
0:10 I can see his left hand "behind" the Mac.
lmao
Reflection.
How about an "As Fast As Possible" on Client Side Hit detection in video games. The thing that makes you "get shot around corners" in video games. I actually know, but I think it would be an interesting topic, for people who are not already aware. Goes with the latency/ping stuff too.
Hey! Dennis was in the thumbnail so i click. WHERE IS HE?
1:38
WHY ISN'T DENIS PRESENTING THE VIDEO
BELOWIT MB THAT WOULD BE HORRIBLE
TMC Productions kappa?
Bonus: This is why CRT monitors have basically 0mS latency. All analog baby! No digital processing here.
LazerLord10 umm, there is still processing involved. How do you think the CRT laser knows how to write the image on the diffuser?
(Not entirely sure of how correct the following statement is)
The 'laser' (not actually a laser) continuously scans across the screen no matter what it is receiving. There is still 'processing' of course, but it never goes through any sort of digital system. The way it decodes the input signal is mostly unknown to me, but it's all analog hardware that the signal is passing through with no (or very little) digital logic between the input signal and the scanning laser. Old TV's and transmission signals were based on lines, not pixels. The timings had to be pretty accurate, but you could imagine the input signal as just a voltage that represents what color/intensity to make the laser at any given point in time while it's tracking along the screen.
P.S. The earliest CRT-based televisions were made in Germany in 1934, so there couldn't have been any sort of digital processing.
Also, it's really early in the morning right now, so I may not be able to think straight. Whatever.
Dah me. It is an electron gun, not a laser. I looked at this sort of stuff years ago. There is still processing that is involved, whatever it is digital or analog. It is the processing that converts the radio/video input, into something that the electron gun can utilize. The electron gun runs on thousands of volts. The rest of the tv doesn't.
Electricity doesn't travel at "nearly the speed of light". Electrons travel quite slowly, but they push each other as a chain so it seems like when you switch on the light, it's instantaneous but the electrons were already there in the wire
1:00 Hm, the speed of an electromagnetic wave traveling through copper/air _is_ the speed of light... in that medium. Just because it's not as fast as the speed of light in a vacuum doesn't mean it's something else.
I've been thinking about latency a lot, the stress of it over the years, with the micro waiting for pages to load, and video games to load, and how it was not something in life back in the 90s.
internet back in the day sure was better
Can you do a video on processors and front side buses. Particularly what some of the math boils down to (such as a 5 to 3 speed of ram ratio). That might work as a quickie video. Like just explain and hit the highlights.
So glad I found this channel, you guys are so awesome
Well both travel the speed of light. Just the medium is denser thus there is more distance for them to travel. They are not technically slower. I guess for the general public it is much easier to say slower. Just thought I'd put this out there.
Suggestion, History of technology in the film industry, about the introduction of CGI and 3D for exapmle, would love to see that.
The speed of light is actually a real contributor to at least internet latency. c = ~300,000km/s, circumference of the earth = ~40,000km. So it takes light 130ms to circumnavigate the earth.
So if you connect to a server at the exact opposite side of the earth ~20k km away and you're going to measure ping (round-trip time), it will be at the very best be in the 130ms range, and with out current knowledge of physics is not going to get lower. It's remarkable that today it isn't even that much more.
Dennis needs to do a Techquickie video, it will be the best/worst thing ever.
I’m trying to learn more about the degree to which video chat latency restricts the ability for musicians to play a song together via Skype, FaceTime, etc. Is there a measurement of today lowest latency possibilities? Also, a measurement of the specific amount of latency time that would be so short that the brain would consider instantaneous?
3ghz cpu has a 0,3ns latency to register. (1/hz=latency)
cache has about 1-10ns delay (depending on lvls)
ram has about 10-100ns delay (most simple request, longer request take longer ofcourse)
ssd has about 1us(microseconde)-100us
hdd 1ms(milli) to 10ms
internet 10ms-500ms
Its a aproxomation. Each and every ram and ssd has there own latency. Whould have been to long of a list.
And nothing can be faster then cpu as the cpu is the one that sends data to the cach.
Nothing is faster then your cpu. As your cpu is controlling it.
lel. latency, as fast as possible
Another example would be snail mail. The closer you are to the person you're sending the message to, the quicker they'll get it to respond. If the recipient lives cross country, it'll take longer to get to them to respond.
Electricity cannot and does not travel anywhere near the speed of light. The reason your lights come on almost instantly when you flip a switch is due to line saturation. IE the electrical line between the two ends is full of electrons. When you flip the switch there is an electric field generated which causes electrons to move from one end to the other. This pressure pushes new electrons in, while pushing the ones at the opposite end out at the same time. If there were no electrons on the line, it would take quite a while to get your lights to turn on.
Clicked for Dennis. Stayed until Dennis.
The worst latency I experience on a regular basis is credit card terminals. For whatever reason, it is disorienting when the "ink" on the screen significantly lags the stylus with which I'm trying to write my signature.
I was really hoping that Dennis did this video
I saw Dennis on the thumbnail, I want DENNIS
Love that H3H3 reference at the end there Luke.
Gaming with someone on the other side of the world... on an iMac... with xBox 360 controllers.
What wrong with the sound? There is a rumble sound in the background? Or am I just crazy?
Man that thumbnail was such clickbait. My body was so ready for Dennis to do a fast as possible.
I would love to see a Techquickie on the history of IDE's!
Why is Luke in such soft focus, I thought I was on 480i until I saw the VR clip and stock photos
Hmm. A suggestion? Has there been a TechQuickie about the history of computer-keyboards yet? :)
Can latency cause a program crash if set too high? (high = less demand on the CPU, I think 🤔) the program is PCDJ... an app for playing music - Dj'ing.
The crash seems to occur after the PCDJ search engine has been used - could this be related to the latency being set too high in the program please??
When techquickie has become techlongie
Was really hoping that Dennis was presenting this one :(
I was legit thinking about this with the mirror less car while driving yesterday
I'm a simple man. I see Dennis, I press like.
I love how the stock image at 0:13 seconds in is a couple of guys playing xbox 360 on an imac......yeah right that's some bs....even the guy in denim is like eyyyy that isn't right
Although it seems counter intuitive, electrons in wires don't travel at the speed of light. Regardless, thanks for the video!
BUT WHATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN [PING] & [LATENCY]
Brononymous Rival nothing, they are the same ping is just latency in milliseconds
Felwinters Lie
ok thanks bro :)
(pedant mode on) Ping is one of the tools used to measure round trip time (RTT), which is usually measured in milliseconds. This means that saying I have 60 ms ping its like saying I have 30 km/h speedometer
minecraft2048
thanks...
0:06 explained
Erotic asphyxiation or breath control play is the intentional restriction of oxygen to the brain for the purposes of sexual arousal.
This sexual practice is variously called asphyxiophilia, autoerotic asphyxia, hypoxyphilia. The term autoerotic asphyxiation is used when the act is done by a person to themselves. Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
The erotic interest in asphyxiation is classified as a paraphilia in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association.
Saw thumbnail for Dennis. Expected Dennis. Received Luke. Feel misled.
I think I saw a pun here: the reason of put Dennis in the thumbnail is saying that at the same speed of Luke reading this comment will take around 1.5 times length for Dennis to read. Latency right there.
Okay now I am legit scared. This is the fourth time when I explain some concept to a friend and within hours of me explaining, a fast-as-possible episode comes out on that exact topic... Was just explaining what makes monitors better then tvs for gaming today.
When was the last time you guys had an Audible sponsor?
I was really hoping for Dennis to do a video
who hoped for dennis to be there instead of luke?
What is latency in a few seconds: the excuse Silvers use when they die
2:44 how would cameras have less latency than mirrors. Don't mirrors have "0 latency" coz, they just reflect light. Whereas a camera would obviously have some lag due to "internal processing" in the camera?
electricity in wires travels rather slow, the reason it's instant is more because of it's like a tube of marbles when one goes in a onother comes out
It's just we're putting new coversheets on all the TPS reports before they go out now.
I remember the internet guy setting up my router and I told him I want my computer close to the router so I could hook it up with an Ethernet cable. He said "Why? Wifi is just as fast as Ethernet." I laughed inside.
Hey, can you place the links in the description to the videos you mention during the episode like the link for the ping video?
i think the idea of my brain having latency is about to give me an existential crisis
Dennis in thumbnail as fast as possible.
I love the latency in your speech patterns XD
I know its "tech quicky" but what are some possible ways to fix latency by ISP , at least the last mile part of the service?
History of the common computer mouse (the ones you use on your Super-fast rendering machines [well, not really fast, but fast] {and i have the new Cyberpower gaming mouse as well as the new CherryMX keyboard from them})
The shade at Killer Networking.
how dare you put Dennis in the thumb nail and FORCE me to watch this
Not true. Electricity only travels about 3mm per second. Its effect is so fast because when a citcuit is closed all the electrons in a length of conductors start to move very nearly at once
Topic: "Jitter". You promised it in the "What is Ping As Fast As Possible" 3 years and 25 days ago.
@Luke; Approximately 2/3th the speed of light :)
This is tech*QUICKY*! I feel like the recent episodes have been really slow. The subject being about something that causes things to be slow is no excuse.
Is priority changing or QoS a possibility with comcast's provided router/modem?
can Dennis get his own channel, or at least his own show on one of the LMG channels? pls?
Trying to play on xbox live while stationed in Korea was irritating as hell. No way to choose a locally populated server.... and the time difference combined with connecting to servers in California made for interesting occurrences in Titanfall/Forza Horizon, lol.
i moved in august and got a 200/100 ftth there.. it's so damn worth it.. the only copper in my network is basically a 50 cm lan cable from the fibre modem to the router and some meters lan cable to my pc.. i cut my ping to my favorite game in half and got a ping of 4ms to the google dns..
thanks. i needed this one
Who else expected Dennis presenting?
LTT note using Dennis-bait?
The history of linus tech tips
While I like Luke, I cant help but feel a bit disappointed its not Dennis.
was the Teleprompter broken that day?
5:02 LOL, it does not matter how much latency there is in a backup camera... The old lady is slow and you won't to worry about that. :3
We need a "Dennis Using VR" Screensaver.
you should have added in a reference to a game that makes extremely low latency, particularly in displays, such as competitive super smash bros melee.
Clickbait, I thought Dennis became a news reporter
Atlast a video without the fake uncomfortable pauses for an attempt at humor.