See What Life Is Like Inside The Uk's Most Dangerous Prison. part 2
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- #ireland #uk #prison
Stephen Nolan gets unprecedented access to one of the UK's most notorious high-security jails. Face to face with prisoners in their cells
Enter someone’s house uninvited you have to accept the consequences.
Mate it ain't there house it's a scumbag cell get with the program I have done 10 years and it's all a wank
Mate it's a cell it ain't your house it's everyone's scumbag place they are at its no one's place 😢😂
Totally agree.
Dosent work like that in the uk witch is a joke
Exactly this
Law in this country is a joke. If you attack a man in his house trying to extort him you deserve anything you get.
No it's not so clear cut, take the count of the farmer that had been robbed multiple times. He shot him leaving the property. That isn't self defence. Yes the law is crazy, but we have to go by the law we have. It's up to us the people to demand the laws we want.
I dont give fhck about that boy dying shouldnt be someone elses house tryin rob someone ffs ..
Yeah this guy is in prison for PROTECTING himself, he didn't do anything wrong.
@TheMetalhead678 yes if all that story is correct which he told then feel for that guy .. fhckin terrible he is in there for that
100 percent,I’ve sadly done things similar due to addiction,if I was killed on a job it’s my fault and nobody else’s,I’m now clean of illegal drugs thank god
This is what terrifies me if my house is robbed. I will be landed in prison if I end up defending my property. The law protects criminals and punishes law abiding citizens. The law does not want you protecting yourself, and this is one of the reasons I'm working on leaving the UK for good. I don't feel safe here anymore. Those evil judges threw him in jail and don't give a single f**k as that will never happen to them. They would be living on police patrolled streets, along with security protecting them etc.
@JoshJackson-lq7tj I was same with same life issues and done stuff feed habit never houses but .. I was counter jumper I.e shop robber and before addiction security vans stuff .. but did shops as easier target when got addicted and if I got hurted or killed then thats my problem and wouldn't expect anyone or want anyone of my victims to go prison for my lowlife behaviour in past now clean also like self my friend .. I wish you well and congrats on sobriety 1 day at time but ah m8 godbless
This bloke should not be in prison for protecting his house and his self ?
like he said morally right by law wrong
What a fucked up system this is,…this lad should be given a badge, not locked up !
@@Nedxr777 you are basing your position solely on the information provided by the murderer. You need to hear all sides before you can make such judgment, which i assume the jury did. Every criminal minimises or makes excuses for their crimes. I don't know the full details of the case. Maybe this guy acted in self defence, but i have read that he stabbed the guy 6 times and was sleeping in his shoes as he had ongoing beef etc. Theres always more to it than one persons account, which is always going to paint them as the victim / good guy
I agree with you that this young man should not be in prison for protecting his house. Only the courts say that you should use reasonable force. Only they give no definition of reasonable force. But on the other hand say you’re allowed to use force in self defence.
@@realtruth4804 and he gives of an aura that he's bullshitting.
so, david got convicted to 8 yrs imprisonment, for killing a ROBBER?! that just makes no sense whatsoever..
That burglar took his own life the moment he broke into someone s house, what if there was a child in the house. The burglar could of been a nonse for all we know
Exactly! The laws in the uk are appalling
Frrrr@@Gloriaogden182
David is innocent... he protected his home
Lying out hisass
4:31 feel for him. He was protecting his home
More to this case I’m not that gullible
I don't care If David planned It out more than he's letting on. If anybody brakes into his house unwanted he has every right to protector himself, But unfortunately that's not how the law works In the UK and unless your have proof It played out like that you don't have a leg to stand on in court😕
In prison for protecting himself...
Classic English laws.
Same thing in Australia.
Clearly irish
@Connor-kc2ns we're still under UK in Northern Ireland so a lot of similar laws
How is David in prison for protecting himself and his home. It doesn’t matter that he picked up the knife, it’s home. It’s ridiculous and shows the Irish legal system has also gone woke.
Con man was clever and knows damn well what he’s done, he’ll be at it again
That boy at begining shouldnt be in prison he is in his kwn house and gets attacked end day u protect yourself no matter what doesnt matter if there unarmed or not ur protecting yourself n property there in your house ffs
not this country or ireland mate laws all fucked gotta protect yourself and your family but be up for not having freedom sad really
@chillz1270 it's joke. Even more so joke when hear that court believed he was being harassed weeks before it and build up to night came his house. It's joke there in his house attempting to Rob him in his house then they try stab him in his house he protects himself and ends up with 8 half years of his life taken away .. then hear that fat prick walkin away sayin stuff about the poor boys family he killed and bullshit well they should have got there family member under control stop him going around robbing people in there house .. I thought at first he would been on side of boy in jail but when walks away he is reason and people like him who think way he does that is reason that poor kid is in jail for being woke up middle night and robbed n finding himself in prison for nearly decade his life for what I say is self defence fullstop . Its absolute joke society is fucked now with people lik that reporter n rest
So what do we do have we just to let someone attack us and curl in a ball and be seriously hurt or killed?? I don’t get this law
@hopeisit1347 yes wonder if do same for someone works in bank that attacks a robber very much doubt it.
Cause we all know if coned money more so goverment money then turn blind eye anything but us the common person on street have to be attacked n robbed in our own home n not do thing cause we to scared end up prison like this guy for nearly decade
@@BarryBull-mv5no Shocking…Imagine your kids are there and the law basically is saying just let them kill you etc do whatever they want..So two choices let them kill you or go to jail..UK is
Embarrasing and this is why criminals know they are more protected than the normal decent peaceful people
No need for that bloody alarm every time he narrates.
Nolan needs to understand that certain personality types (narcissist, aspd, psycho) cannot take responsibility for their wrongdoings
Done time in HMP Liverpool (Walton) That place was way more grim than this holiday camp.
Slashing central I was in there for 4 weeks before being moved to forest bank worst 4 weeks of my life horrible jail
Bear in mind, people are probably on their best behavior for the cameras. Real life, no cameras, it's probably something else.
These prisoners are blaming the system and everyone else for them being locked up. You couldn't make it up.
that alarm needs fucking off
9:17 well he shouldn’t of broke into David’s home!!
Why the fcuk is David in prison? wtf!
For being obese.
The car con man what a slippery bstrd, he oozes lies...
Davids case is an absolute joke, why would he dispose of a knife in a wheelie bin after phoning the police and admitting he’d killed the burglar? wtf he obviously has previous and the feds wanted him put away.
As a English born Cypriot
Scottish people are my favourite from great Britain
Prison is a holiday camp these days. I was in Winson Green in the early nineties with 3 in a cell and a bucket for a toilet. No tv no electric no association, just 3 meals a day and an hour exercise. £7.80 a week wages if you were lucky enough to get a job and £2 a week for those that weren’t. Washing my socks at night in the sink with a bar of soap was grim, a boiled egg and a slice of toast for breakfast was even grimmer when you don’t eat eggs…. I used to literally be starving all the time! I learnt my lesson from the experience and have had 30 good years on the outside since. Prison should be there to teach offenders a lesson not provide them with a good life every time they come back in and out
It's experiences like those that you had in prison that keep me deliberately avoiding conflict and crime. I value my freedom too much. If somebody starts on me I usually walk the other way just so I can avoid being in the hell you just described!
Prison is a holiday camp I’ve been in HMP Manchester twice I can assure you it’s no holiday camp.
The loss of freedom is the punishment,
Let them try mental hospitals instead then they can complain
@@Philljag the fact you’ve been twice proves my point 😀👌👍 televisions, electricity,mobile phones, proper flushing toilets. Not really going to deter people is it?
I wouldn't have even answered the door, even the police put their finger over the spyhole so they get ignored too. Only answer the door to people that have an appointment.
Like I'm a doctor?
They booted the door in
@@str0kedj from the sounds of it he forgot to lock his own door and they just walked in after knocking twice.
Get cameras and make sure them doors need a chainsaw to get in.
Behold, the "Justice" system.
Fs no wonder our prisons are full when it looks like a holiday camp. That place is better than butlins.
David you was a lucky boy, think this lad will be fully corrected for release tho. Hope he stays safe and crime free.
The lad who robbed post office shows no understanding he is a risk to public and blames everyone else and takes no responsibility for his own actions.
I feel sorry for the first lad as he had every right to defend himself. The other three deserve what they got. Of the three, I think the one who conned people out of their money was a lying coward. Cagey and dishonest.
Who here believes David? The poor soul😂
8 years for trying to defend yourself.... this is england bois. his prison room not much different from my tiny box room that im stuck in.
It's not😂
I'm in disbelief this lad was defending his own home .so now u can't defend your own home .omg shining hum in prison complete waste of tak payers money❤ .this is terfible
I was in mount-joy prison in the early 90's before the electric was put into calls , cell wall's were big stones like a castle wall same as ceiling that arches like a dungeon bed two inches of foam angle iron bed wire springs , and a tin pot with lid for pissing no were to go number two, I see this , uk hardest prison and I laugh , big TV what looks like a play station and big press for your clothes , big bed made up like Mammy used to do and the post office robber as soft as a baby skin face obviously nothing but the easiest life inside prison and at home , I see prison today and I see living condition better than some kids I grow up with, and these soft lads are complaining about how bad they have it ? REALLY are they for real the only thing that is bad is they lost there freedom, I sat in a dungeon not able to read no tv no toilets four walls floorboard 100 years old mice in my cell I would catch for fun and to have a pet, cockroach everywhere, times have changed.
Couldn't agree more with you
yes and the prisoners in the crumlin road jail sat in those conditions, hmp maghaberry became NI first prison after the closure of HMP maze, youve maybe heard of that, just remember nolan doesnt have security clearence for the cat A section where loyalist and republican paramiltaries are, many I.R.A. or U.V.F. men did you serve time with in your english ramamdan jails?
@@whitetroutchannelnorthern prisons are mickey mouse compared to the violence and conditions in southern prisons.
You had me believing you untill the 100 year old mice
did you stop being a criminal?
The truth will set you free
That David’s almost convinced himself it wasn’t his knife. He slept in shoes etc? Sounds like they all went back to together as mates and it kicked off and he’s overdone it
Ridiculous that this fellas in for defending his self and his home
Hes got the right idea leave it behind at the gate and move on
If a thief is caught in the act of breaking into a house and is struck and killed in the process, the person who killed the thief is not guilty of murder.”
Exodus 22:2
David’s telling a few porkie pies
how you know that? muppet
@@Rose_19911 do you believe the criminals description of their crimes? They always lie or minimise their crimes. I don't know the full details so i cant say for sure, but just taking the prisoners side of the story as the truth is beyond naive
Soemthing about what David said has me confused. How would the other burglar dispose of the knife if David had used it 6 times on the other burglar. Unless the burglar saw the knife in his friend and decided to take it out and run away with it.
I went to yoi/ and adult prison 4 times by the time i was 21. When I was released the last time i never returned, never broken any law or even had one interaction with the law.
I think I can hear em' knokkin' now, young Mathew Douglas
Same I went 4 times, years 2000 to 2006 , my last time I said F this am not coming back, was always the same faces , Doncaster marshgate , but it was not bad back then, I would not want to go back now , it’s a mugs game , my 1st time I was set up for attempted burglary, they said I would get 3 years if I went not guilty, so I went guilty and got remanded to prison
@kingkong81icloud yeah it's a mugs game. In and out of prison, definitely not worth it. Some people never grow up. I valued my freedom and realised crime doesn't pay. Yeah I learnt some money but I could have earned more if I just gotta job and went straight. 23 years last time I went down or even got arrested
I'd love to have seen this place back in the late 80's and early 90's. I'd imagine it was far worse then.
All fake remorses they will all do it again
From Australia the laws are the same hear if someone enters your house uninvited you should have the right to defend yourself.
the way stephen interrogated him was disgusting. treated him like a monster
Last guy is a murdering liar . That's why he had to come to the land of Benefits .
What that guy Dave was in for should of been self defend two guys broke into his house he should not of gone down for it
These judges don't live in the real world. They live in the nicest areas, protected by gates and security. They've never woken up to find an armed burglar in their face. If they had, they might understand the instinct to do whatever it takes to protect yourself. No one thinks of the 'reasonable defence' law in that terrifying situation ffs
That last guy he went to see called andreas, saying he’s reformed. He had a smirk in his face when he answered or responding to the big man reading the judges court notes.
Still think it’s nuts that you can beat someone to death, a man you’ve never met, just because they are gay or a different colour to you. Will never understand it.
Assume it’s something that’s gone wrong during childhood?! Fuck knows.
Protect your home and yourself, get sent to prison. Makes sense 😒 poor fella
so there is a dead guy in his kitchen and the judge thinks he ran up the street to dispose of the knife... to hide what the killing of said burglar
Free David !
When you break into someone's house, you forfeit any rights you should have. In the US he wouldn't be in prison.
I've just seen this and I think most of those commenting have articulated their perspective on what happened with Davids case. I know David, he grew up with my son and although considered a "balloon" by some, weren't we all at some stage in our teenage lives? He is a genuinely nice young man, well mannered and pleasant, his biggest downside is that he has always what I considered to be vulnerable and easily exploited by others. He was never known to be violent or aggressive and maybe by such was considered an easy target. Sad though the death of another human being is, why. should we not have the right to defend our homes and our families from all enemies. We should at least feel safe in our own homes and that is not something David experienced. How many out there feel so unsafe in their own homes that they sleep fully dressed and stash hammers at your front door, in case of attack? Not many I'd presume.
The law in this country s so wrong to see any person jailed for self-defence and despite the judge determining that David went too far, how many out there can say that when faced with a violent attack, they would not be possible of similar, driven by fear. As for the victim and the one that got away, they are only a small part of gangs and groups torturing ordinary folks every day, who will continue until the law says enough is enough. Good luck David, keep your head down, great interview with Nolan, you presented yourself well.
I would t be remorseful for the prior harassment that caused him to be prepared and the invasion that caused him to take that man’s life. It’s a miscarriage of justice and I don’t feel one bit if pity for that man losing his life. Only for his family because he decided to push someone too far .
Lol David is clearly telling a few lies. My guess drug deal gone wrong.
he said the reason and thats defintely it they didnt like he was drug dealing and came to visit to make an example for other dealers and it went wrong
I wish they would change the thumbnail for this video. It looks like one of the safer jails in the uk
i think its stupid to have woman officers on mens jail like this
the guy had a point about hostels its almost like set to fail
Wow, so he’s in jail for killing an person robbing his house. He needs to be let out
Whether the knife came from the burglars or davids block, he protected his home. #freedavid
Good on ya, David. You did the right thing and you shouldn’t be there.
People in a hostel for robbery ffs he was in for robbery if you cant do the time dont do the crime
It’s ridiculous you can’t defend your family in your own home. I wouldn’t let that put me off. It’s you or them. It’s self defence if they approach you
I've never seen handcuffs like that
8:55 wish that lad all the best . He doesn’t deserve to be sat there.
I met plenty of people inside that shouldn't have been there.
Still can't fix the tvs in the van though
Everyone he spoked gave come accross evil.
That wee fella says 2 wrongs don't make a right(ie because he did something wrong, it's not right for the system to do wrong to him)well sometimes a negative times a negative does make a right(ie if you think your being treated badly,maybe you'll think twice about doing something like that again.
the judge got it right about that lad,I don't believe the men had knives,he grabbed it from his kitchen,you can tell his lying.still you got to be careful going around to anyone house looking to sort them out.,best not too and best never to open your door,appointments only at my yard or the steel door stays shut.
For most people who are in prison. They have lost there human rights. Prisons should be ran like military glass house is ran
fairplay to the bloke. country is backwards. burglary is low.
Nolan, claims he's from the Shankill rd!! He is not. Westway was an upper middle class community in the 70s. The man is a loner!!
Some people need authority...
Those servo can chairs are not terrifying but they are very uncomfortable aspesully wen u have long journies to court
That was my routine from 15 to to 30 years old now been out for 7yrs and will never go back I have my dog who keeps me on track so I don’t stray
That’s plenty
It should be your morality not your dog Sean
They break the law, they need to be punished and face consequences. It’s their own fault
third guy is a weasel of a liar .
That judge has never had to fight for his own life and does not know shit about anything.
he's not a different man. he's getting educated in prison. In denial conman. should have double his sentence.
Try life in for four years in English psychiatric units - then you'll really see what a prison is
The most dangerous prison that ive never heard of
Some guys in there are paramilitary m8 so not ur run mill idiots you get in British prisons
Maghaberry is full of men that would have you and your family frightened to start your cars for a very long time
Maybe because youre not from Ireland? Most Irish and Northern Irish wouldn’t have a clue about English prisons
In Fairness to Stephen he takes no shit off the lads in the jail
The issue is with David if he smashed his face in etc might gotten stabbed doing it or used a weapon him self to protect him self then it would of been seen as reasonable force since he killed him with the knife they would class that unreasonable force but for me I understand why he did it and felt he had no choice live or die in that moment
Who the hell opens the door in the middle of the night to people banging on it????
guys carrying a knife who are keen to fight
OMG that poor little lad he was protecting his own life in the USA you can stand your ground in England you're a criminal for protecting yourself 😢😢
At the end of the day if someone has a knife and you are feeling threatened and attacking you how many times is enough to save your own life it's something to think about isn't it.
Might not be popular, but you have to see it from the laws point of view. Anyone could murder anyone and claim self defence everytime, without proof beyond doubt, they have to charge and convict. Sucks yes but required.
All the best elite SAS come from this hardship 😂
It's still to good for them, except David was defending himself from intruders?? Or so he says.
I’ve known I’ve done wrong, man up then
Is that eamonn holmes ?
second guy is mental
They shouldn’t have broke into his house then
Do society a favour and get years, typical
That first lad shouldn't be in there. I appreciate he took a life but that person was an aggressor, it was self defence but even so he is dealing with that on his conscience because he's a good guy. If he was a killer who should be in there we would not carry it with him, like he does. Poor lad. I don't understand the thinking behind laws which say we can't defend our homes. If someone comes into our home we should be able to defend ourselves by any means, you can't expect people to be thinking of the legal repercussions when you and your loved ones are at risk. It's like a woman going to jail for using mace on an attacker or injuring him in the process of escaping, what the absolute fuck? Disgraceful that people like that lad get the punishment they did
You don't get handcuffs in the sweatbox
💯 true
Yea just when u enter and exit really. You have to stick ur hands out the door and they put them on
@@Believer3_ I didn't even have that.
@@MikeOB1981 every time ive been in one (which is like 4-5 times) they always have... they cuff you in ur cell at the station, bring you to the van. Then take them off when ur in ur box in the van.. maybe its different in other parts of UK, idk.. what part of uk are you?
@@MikeOB1981 then when u exit for court they put them on again until you get to the court cells.. etc
I feel sorry for David. I hope whoever wrote the law on what is and isn't reasonable force during a situation they know nothing about goes home at night comfortable at their contribution to society. Also, this is a great show but the presenter slightly reminds me of John Wayne Gacy. 🤔
Haha, ahh the UK.
So REGARDLESS of the background, reason or cause...... Someone or some people enter YOUR home too steal from you, and you use excessive force.... YOU go too prison????
Courts talk about cause, effect, what if this.... what if that.
How did the court know that these events didn't happen the way he said? Were they there? Men enter YOUR home, YOU defend yourself, one of them end up dead, and you go too prison?
Maybe if the court actually let this guy walk, it would send a message too people that break in too homes, that in YOUR house, YOU have the right too any defence, especially if they have a weapon.