I love these clips where Corny gives use the insider details of the business as far as travel, payoffs, tapings, arenas, fans and attendance-- stuff regular marks and most people in general had no idea about back then.
Just once I wish I could have been able to go to a live show, but my parents were absolutely not wrestling fans and they were scared to go to the Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans.
@@SonnyBubba I’d definitely wanna know where the exits were but it must have been an awesome atmosphere, especially when JYD was at the peak of his popularity
From Abbeville Louisiana. The matches used to be at The Abbeville Highschool Gymnasium. I was like 4/5 1984/85 and my cousin who was a little older than me was mocking The Missing Link and he chases both of us threw the crowds. I was scared shit. The good old days. We have pictures somewhere of Missing Link, Terry Taylor and Junkyard dog.
My dad was the head football coach at Loyd Star High School in Lincoln County, MS and he had mid-south come into our gym for fundraisers for about three or four years in a row in the early '80's. JYD, Dick Murdoch, Kamala, Samoans, Dr. Death, . . . it was absolutely awesome!
I used to go to those Shreveport house shows at Municipal Auditorium in the early 80s. I usually had front row seats. Great memories. I was 12 years old.
Great discussion about Mid South. I can personally attest to the roads he speaks of. Some of them are not much better than he speaks of now especially in parts of Mississippi.
Probably the only road that did get improved between 1984 and 2024 was the I-49 through Louisiana, which was built in the late 80’s/ early 90’s. But all the small towns that the highway was designed to bypass annexed extra land so they each owned about a half mile of I-49, with all the speeding ticket revenue that they could harvest from it.
Driving thru Arkansas in 2015 a wild hog slammed into the side of our van while we were driving at least 40 mph thru a low speed limit stretch of highway.
I graduated high school in 1985 and lived in OKC. I was present many times at those afternoon shows at the Myriad Convention Center & saw that exact match Corny talked about of Ric Flair vs Kerry Von Erich for the NWA Heavyweight strap(Flair ran Kerry into the ring post & got himself disqualified, losing the match but keeping the belt)! Mid-South was on tv Saturday afternoons and World Class out of Texas was on I think Friday nights, if I remember correctly(as of writing this I am now 50 years old, so the memory isn't the greatest anymore ;0)), so we had GREAT pro-wrestling in our area! I remember seeing WWF for the first time on the USA Network on Sunday mornings, I think, and even back then I immediately thought "geez, this wrestling is freakin' stupid." XD
Fishing, Gaming & Guitars no, WWF was Better, and I’m die hard, after 86, before 86, The NWA, WCCW, MID SOUTH, MID ATLANTIC, ALL WERE GREAT, AND BETTER.
Cornette logging all of this stuff was a great stroke of luck for all of us. Being able to look at all the mundane details helps intricate memory recall heavily. I think i should journal a sentence or 2 about every day & see how it helps my ability to recall down the road.
Lived in New Orleans majority of my life. By the time i was a toddler midsouth was uwf maybe...or actually no...they were closed. I go back and watch all the tapes of new orleans. Superdome shows, UNO Lakefront Arena, and the whats now called Mahalia Jackson theatre in Armstrong park right there by the French Quarter. Its crazy to think there would be thousands of rasslin fans there to riot or fuck up the heels
Bill Watts had his office headquarters in Bixby, Oklahoma, a suburb on the south end of Tulsa. I talked to so many people who worked at the Sonic across the street from it, and all the wrestlers who would come and go,and occasionally stop by Sonic. Bill Watts lived in a mansion on top of a mountain southeast of Bixby. I think Bill Goldberg later lived up there, or close by for a while. I always thought Goldberg was a Mid South type wrestling badass. Those were the days. Better than WWF(E), or WCW ever was. AEW doesn't even rank, it sucks so bad. I didn't know how good I had it back then.
I lived 15 miles southeast of Bixby. I wish I hadn't been in my early teens then because I would have been there hanging out a lot trying to get autographs...lol!
I remember seeing that match you described in the Lake Charles Civic Center. That was the very fist live wrestling match I saw in person. That was an awesome match with Hacksaw Duggan and Hercules Hernandez. Been a wrestling fan ever since.
And there still isn't a diagonal interstate highway from Oklahoma to Louisiana! (*but there should be!). Mr McGuirk--what a funky shaped territory you built! It's as odd as a congressional district!
Money seems pretty good until you realize it’s pre-tax and before expenses. Then doesn’t seem so good when you take about half from the total he’s giving you
Would love to be in the car with Corny, debating Politics, like him, and JBL did, But remained Great Friends, Conservatives, And Liberals, can be Friends
Damn the payoffs must've sounded bad for the guys considering JYD left and Mid South was pretty much on it's ass and on its way out because Watts was probably tired of the booking and just wanted to retire back to Oklahoma till WCW hired him.
In 1986 Bill Watts sold the territory to Jim Crockett. The fans didn’t realize anything was amiss until Dusty Rhodes vs Arn Andersen was the main event at the UNO Lakefront Arena, and the Mid South card was all underneath. And by 1988 wrestling in New Orleans was dead.
I really think the heighth of pro wrestling for me was Mid South Wrestling. I have never enjoyed it quite as much as when it, and UWF were still around.
So, in 1984 I was living in Houston and.. one year old. I guess that means I could have seen Corny coming through? Also, who the hell was going to shows in Beaumont?? No offense, but it's not exactly a metropolitan mecca of culture. Then again we hear about how they're hanging from the rafters in Houma, Louisiana. I guess you get more draw in the rural areas, per capita.
I eventually saw Hulk Hogan square off with Tiny Lister as Zeus for a fraction of a second at the Summit in 1989, but I was so far up in the nosebleed section that I couldn't see jack. I did see Koko B Ware though! Begged my dad for a scarlet macaw after that.
It's easy to remember the old days in a glorious way. There were things that Vince did with the WWF that was better than the old territories, but there were sure a whole lot of things that the territories did better than the WWE has ever done. You can't be disappointed with the big hit of nostalgia. Things were just different back then, the guys just seemed so much more real. It was so easy to buy into the story and matches in a way that just can not be done today. I personally quit watching wrestling shortly after 2000. The PG bullshit is just terrible.
Mr Cornette. It seems like you never respond when ppl ask questions. I know your busy. It just seems like your cut off from your fans. A loyal FAN. Thanks and take care
U don't have enough money for Melania if Kamala would had won 100 then compared to now would been 100000000000000 today so thank God that didn't happen
As Corny said, there were no north-south interstates in Louisiana at the time. North-South, there was I-45 (Dallas to Houston) and I-55 (New Orleans to Jackson). In the 90’s, they built I-49 (Lafayette to Alexandria to Shreveport).
Jim would do a rage backflip reading this, but the coal miner glove match and the strap "touch the 4 posts" matches were just as fucking stupid as anything Jim Herd came up with.
i came to bring up the Ding Dongs but someone else already did. At least those gimmick matches had something to do with wrestling and fans wanted to see them. who wanted to see the ding dongs? what kind of fucking gimmick is that even? even lawler would be like "let's not" and he's responsible for the swamp creature, the christmas creature and PY Chu.
I graduated High school in 1985 from Longview Texas and I loved it when Midsouth wrestling came to town. I was a huge Ernie Ladd fan!
Got lucky in time & place in terms of great entertainment.
ewalk78 Ernie Ladd was my favorite even as a heel, loved it when he was the North American champion, should have been the NWA world champion.
Was in Southeast Kentucky. We got midsouth, Memphis, and Crockett/TBS. Was awesome.
Two bars in longview codys and the levee back in the day. Penny drinks you cohld get drunk as a dog for pocket change. Good old times
BunDaaay,Every time you cash a check your stealin' BunDaaay!.... Lmao
Born and raised in Alexandria La and used to see the wrestlers all of the time. I thought super heros lived in my city lol
You know about The Fighthouse Motel
You’re right, super heroes did live in your town
I grew up down the street from the old Barton coliseum in Little Rock.
Jim has seen and been part of so much incredible stuff.
I love these clips where Corny gives use the insider details of the business as far as travel, payoffs, tapings, arenas, fans and attendance-- stuff regular marks and most people in general had no idea about back then.
MJ is not the goat Bill is. Stats and excuses don't matter winning is the only thing that does.
Every time Jim and Brian hops into the time machine I'm hyped up!!
Great content. I prefer this than their aew review
Good lord, the travel....that's just crazy
Sound like our intenary with GSW we currently running the same area including New Mexico.
@@lesliemiros6743 Really? Most Indies today run 1 show a month or so.
The Territory’s days seem f’n awesome.
Just once I wish I could have been able to go to a live show, but my parents were absolutely not wrestling fans and they were scared to go to the Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans.
@@SonnyBubba I’d definitely wanna know where the exits were but it must have been an awesome atmosphere, especially when JYD was at the peak of his popularity
From Abbeville Louisiana. The matches used to be at The Abbeville Highschool Gymnasium. I was like 4/5 1984/85 and my cousin who was a little older than me was mocking The Missing Link and he chases both of us threw the crowds. I was scared shit. The good old days. We have pictures somewhere of Missing Link, Terry Taylor and Junkyard dog.
My dad was the head football coach at Loyd Star High School in Lincoln County, MS and he had mid-south come into our gym for fundraisers for about three or four years in a row in the early '80's. JYD, Dick Murdoch, Kamala, Samoans, Dr. Death, . . . it was absolutely awesome!
I used to go to those Shreveport house shows at Municipal Auditorium in the early 80s. I usually had front row seats. Great memories. I was 12 years old.
Great discussion about Mid South. I can personally attest to the roads he speaks of. Some of them are not much better than he speaks of now especially in parts of Mississippi.
Booking The Territory
You forgot to type "he speaks of" at the end of your sentence.
Nerd.
used to watch mid south on channel 6 abc greenwood greenville mississippi
Probably the only road that did get improved between 1984 and 2024 was the I-49 through Louisiana, which was built in the late 80’s/ early 90’s.
But all the small towns that the highway was designed to bypass annexed extra land so they each owned about a half mile of I-49, with all the speeding ticket revenue that they could harvest from it.
Driving thru Arkansas in 2015 a wild hog slammed into the side of our van while we were driving at least 40 mph thru a low speed limit stretch of highway.
I graduated high school in 1985 and lived in OKC. I was present many times at those afternoon shows at the Myriad Convention Center & saw that exact match Corny talked about of Ric Flair vs Kerry Von Erich for the NWA Heavyweight strap(Flair ran Kerry into the ring post & got himself disqualified, losing the match but keeping the belt)! Mid-South was on tv Saturday afternoons and World Class out of Texas was on I think Friday nights, if I remember correctly(as of writing this I am now 50 years old, so the memory isn't the greatest anymore ;0)), so we had GREAT pro-wrestling in our area! I remember seeing WWF for the first time on the USA Network on Sunday mornings, I think, and even back then I immediately thought "geez, this wrestling is freakin' stupid." XD
Fishing, Gaming & Guitars no, WWF was Better, and I’m die hard, after 86, before 86, The NWA, WCCW, MID SOUTH, MID ATLANTIC, ALL WERE GREAT, AND BETTER.
@@joeygana8864 wwf was NEVER better than nwa/wcw until maybe late 98-99 in my opinion. Wwf shit just looked TOO phony and contrived to me.
I can't stop laughing, it's weird hearing somebody mention my little hometown of Beaumont! Man I wish I was around to see Cornette!
Cornette logging all of this stuff was a great stroke of luck for all of us. Being able to look at all the mundane details helps intricate memory recall heavily.
I think i should journal a sentence or 2 about every day & see how it helps my ability to recall down the road.
Zen Of Tupac absolutely. His testimony is worth millions in today’s value .
Great vid Jim and Brian. One of the best.
If you’re looking at a map, take note that I-49 had not been built yet.
I'm guessing they had to take LA One to and from Alexandria.
Lived in New Orleans majority of my life. By the time i was a toddler midsouth was uwf maybe...or actually no...they were closed. I go back and watch all the tapes of new orleans. Superdome shows, UNO Lakefront Arena, and the whats now called Mahalia Jackson theatre in Armstrong park right there by the French Quarter. Its crazy to think there would be thousands of rasslin fans there to riot or fuck up the heels
New drinking game. Take a shot every time corny asks a rhetorical question. The last video i watched would of given me alcohol poisoning
I live in Texarkana Texas 30min.away from hope... Arkansas roads are primitive to this day as is Louisiana roads🤨
Tickets where likely $6, $7 maybe for a house of 7,000
Bill Watts had his office headquarters in Bixby, Oklahoma, a suburb on the south end of Tulsa. I talked to so many people who worked at the Sonic across the street from it, and all the wrestlers who would come and go,and occasionally stop by Sonic. Bill Watts lived in a mansion on top of a mountain southeast of Bixby. I think Bill Goldberg later lived up there, or close by for a while. I always thought Goldberg was a Mid South type wrestling badass. Those were the days. Better than WWF(E), or WCW ever was. AEW doesn't even rank, it sucks so bad. I didn't know how good I had it back then.
I lived 15 miles southeast of Bixby. I wish I hadn't been in my early teens then because I would have been there hanging out a lot trying to get autographs...lol!
That was very interesting, thanks Jim.
I remember seeing that match you described in the Lake Charles Civic Center. That was the very fist live wrestling match I saw in person. That was an awesome match with Hacksaw Duggan and Hercules Hernandez. Been a wrestling fan ever since.
Mid-South Wrestling, Saturday mornings 10:30am. Loved it, couldn’t wait till JYD’s matches, he was the best.
And there still isn't a diagonal interstate highway from Oklahoma to Louisiana! (*but there should be!). Mr McGuirk--what a funky shaped territory you built! It's as odd as a congressional district!
It would probably be quicker for Oklahoma to build an interstate from OKC to Texarkana than for Arkansas to build I-49 from Texarkana to Fort Smith.
Mid south wrestling was wrestling. Like him or not bill Watts was a fucking genius
I grew up in Mid-South. Stories about Mid-South r great to hear so keep telling more. Did u ever get laryngitis Jim?
LOVE THE 80s!
The crowds in New Orleans was rowdy in the Municipal Auditorium and the Mercedes Benz Superdome .
That vile Jim Cornette, attacking that honorable Bill Watts! He should be ashamed 😂
imagine the disaster if cornette's house would ever be on fire.
How did Cornette live this long? Constant hardships travel and disease.
Money seems pretty good until you realize it’s pre-tax and before expenses. Then doesn’t seem so good when you take about half from the total he’s giving you
At least you could deduct mileage and hotels before declaring your income on your taxes.
Would love to be in the car with Corny, debating Politics, like him, and JBL did, But remained Great Friends, Conservatives, And Liberals, can be Friends
He doesn't want to talk to you
Cornette deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.
More watch alongs
Damn the payoffs must've sounded bad for the guys considering JYD left and Mid South was pretty much on it's ass and on its way out because Watts was probably tired of the booking and just wanted to retire back to Oklahoma till WCW hired him.
In 1986 Bill Watts sold the territory to Jim Crockett. The fans didn’t realize anything was amiss until Dusty Rhodes vs Arn Andersen was the main event at the UNO Lakefront Arena, and the Mid South card was all underneath.
And by 1988 wrestling in New Orleans was dead.
I really think the heighth of pro wrestling for me was Mid South Wrestling. I have never enjoyed it quite as much as when it, and UWF were still around.
heighth isn't a word
So, in 1984 I was living in Houston and.. one year old. I guess that means I could have seen Corny coming through?
Also, who the hell was going to shows in Beaumont?? No offense, but it's not exactly a metropolitan mecca of culture. Then again we hear about how they're hanging from the rafters in Houma, Louisiana. I guess you get more draw in the rural areas, per capita.
I eventually saw Hulk Hogan square off with Tiny Lister as Zeus for a fraction of a second at the Summit in 1989, but I was so far up in the nosebleed section that I couldn't see jack. I did see Koko B Ware though! Begged my dad for a scarlet macaw after that.
Jesus, I'm glad my first show was NWA rather than Hogan and Zeus.
Interstate 69 coming soon! Canada to Mexico! 😊
It's easy to remember the old days in a glorious way. There were things that Vince did with the WWF that was better than the old territories, but there were sure a whole lot of things that the territories did better than the WWE has ever done. You can't be disappointed with the big hit of nostalgia. Things were just different back then, the guys just seemed so much more real. It was so easy to buy into the story and matches in a way that just can not be done today. I personally quit watching wrestling shortly after 2000. The PG bullshit is just terrible.
Why is the schedule so brutal?
His math isn't horribly off for guestimating,
What was that erector set joke?
Bro, Jim is so hardcore
This is all were True Detective was Filmed, And was the Exact Same area, TRUE DETECTIVE SEASON 1, PRICELESS, I RECOMMEND TO ALL
Yup! Beaumont too, right? In that famous episode with the shootout in the hood.
Mr Cornette. It seems like you never respond when ppl ask questions. I know your busy. It just seems like your cut off from your fans. A loyal FAN. Thanks and take care
He has a Q&A podcast.
Little Rock,Ark Tell Em' about it Jim. JYD always called L.R. His $500. Town.
Amen
Sonny King? No offense, but wasn't he long retired by that point! Someone else could have replaced JYD, who I was never really a big fan of anyway!
U don't have enough money for Melania if Kamala would had won 100 then compared to now would been 100000000000000 today so thank God that didn't happen
100, 150, 250 miles?? OK, we know a 100 miles is a long way, yet bloody Yanks think a 100 years is a long time!!!
tallthinkev I'm enjoying watching the yanks ignore you , mate .
As Corny said, there were no north-south interstates in Louisiana at the time. North-South, there was I-45 (Dallas to Houston) and I-55 (New Orleans to Jackson). In the 90’s, they built I-49 (Lafayette to Alexandria to Shreveport).
Once again
Jim would do a rage backflip reading this, but the coal miner glove match and the strap "touch the 4 posts" matches were just as fucking stupid as anything Jim Herd came up with.
Because you are wrong , so ... yeah
You ARE familiar with the Ding-Dongs, aren't you?
WeCoolWeCool BOUNCE Thank you Fuck you Bye
Well I know who Jim Herd is so yeah. Got anything else? Ding dongs? that it?
i came to bring up the Ding Dongs but someone else already did. At least those gimmick matches had something to do with wrestling and fans wanted to see them. who wanted to see the ding dongs? what kind of fucking gimmick is that even? even lawler would be like "let's not" and he's responsible for the swamp creature, the christmas creature and PY Chu.