Jim Cornette on Mid South Wrestling Ticket Prices In 1984
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- Опубліковано 14 чер 2023
- From Episode 486 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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I was there and saw Mr. Wrestling II and Magnum T.A. fall apart under the onslaught of the Midnight Express. I was about 8 years old, I think, and I remember that match and that Kabuki was on the card, too. I was such a fan of Mr. Wrestling II that I spent weeks after that trying to figure out what T.A. had done wrong, because I was sure that II wouldn't be so mad at him without just reason. All I knew in my heart for sure was that it must be Jim Cornette's fault!
I don't know how much our tickets were that night. I just remember that I went to go see my heroes in the ring with my first hero, my dad.
When Mid-South/UWF was based out of Shreveport, La, the big shows were either in the Municipal Auditorium or Hirsch Coliseum. The TV tapings were at the Irish McNeil's Boys Club (down the road from Hirsch Coliseum). In the late 70's and early 80's the ticket prices for the Municipal Auditorium & Hirsch Coliseum events were: Ringside - $12, Box Seats - $8, and General Admission - $6.
KTBS TV 3 studios in the late 1970's then they moved it to the Irish McNeil Boys club by 1981 then moved to the Tulsa Convention Center by 1986 for their TV tapings.
The best part is, for all these years, that guy thought he saw Sid Viscous, and it wasn't him.
Lol yea what if Sid was his favorite wrestler and he been talking bout it like when people say they saw a band before they made it big
Yep just ruined it for him
Was "Sid Viscous" a typo or does that nickname still persist?
@MisterBeauJanGels your Tom Peterson profile pic popped me. Cheers
I thought I had seen Vicious too! LOL
Well I've learned something new Jim's Knowledge of Wrestling is amazing.
You must be new
@@claytonjones8358 no lol
@Clyde Smith yes he is.
Corny's always cool to listen to about things that happened in the South. I'm a dad gum Yankee!!🤠 Verne was funky with his booking. But he wasn't insane with the ticket prices either. $8 general admission, $10 ringside.
He has always been that way
As a French (Canadian) fuck, the term 'French fuck' made me laugh.
Hearing Jim bring up Mobile Civic Center & Expo Hall brings back so many memories of Rock N Roll & all of NWA.
That area was run by the Fullers
I'm from Tulsa Oklahoma so this is a really cool segment.
stay gold pony boy
I'm from Jackson, Mississippi so this is a pretty good segment.
I went to Mid-south wrestling matches at Barton Coliseum in Little Rock and I remember we sat ringside for $6.50 in 1984.
Hey Jim, I went to most of the Lafayette Municipal Auditorium shows. Started going when I was 10 years old and my mom would drop me off at the box office at 5am so I could get a front row seat. First in line got first pick of seats back then. NO TICKETMASTER!! Anyways, most of the shows started at 2pm every other Sunday and ended at 4pm because if memory serves me right, Mid-South did another show in Shreveport that night. To this day when I visit I still drive by the auditorium and smile. I moved to Houston in 86 and have lived there ever since. Also, thank you again for the great calendar I bought from you in North Carolina pre-Covid and your story about Buzz Sawyer. 😂
$10 in 1980 money is worth $36 today. So if they were charging that for ring side at MSG in 1980 that's still affordable for a guy to be able to bring his family to the WWWF card once a month, have great seats and enjoy a wrestling card.
I got Ring Side tickets to Smackdown in Manchester, England, in 2005 for 50 pounds.
@@ThomasMiddlehurs1984 I can't stand going to TV matches. They do everything they can to ruin the illusion for the TV audience. Like when they cut to commercial, they'll stop the match. If they're in the middle of posing when the tv cuts away to something else, they'll stop for like a minute then go back to posing for the camera when it comes back on
@@jd9119 Exactly.
I think IRL, 10 is closer to 50.
@JD 911 I could be remembering wrong, but in 2005, no matches were cut for commercial on either Raw or Smackdown. If it did happen, I didn't notice or I've forgot. Maybe it wasn't live due to it being filmed in the UK. It was the first Raw from Manchester, maybe the United Kingdom. The crowd at Raw, especially kept chanting throughout if a match was on or not.
Referring to Brian's love of Baseball, Mets season tickets for the bleachers at Shea must've been no more than $500 when he was a boy.
once a month - at the Harriburg, PA - Zembo Mosque - I got front row seats for $5 each - this was 1980
Went to a WWE show in May spent almost $100 a ticket, weren't the best seats, but weren't in the nosebleed section. Very pricey compared to the seats in the early 80s in the Omni in Atlanta.
New orleans kid from thw 70s and 80s, i appreciate this content. It helps me understand why i loved ecw so much afterwards, it reminded me of the saturday afternoon tv shows at 4pm.
CWA/USWA on Tuesdays at the Louisville Gardens in late 80s was about $5 for GA. Even as a teen then, easily affordable for me and my buddies.
I can confirm when wrestling first came to the Showboat, tickets were 12, 10, 8 and $5.
Watched wrestlemania 23 in Detroit for 100$ same tickets for SummerSlam is 700$ not worth it
In the late 80's and early 90's ringside in Nashville was $7.00
I saw Goldberg vs Hollywood Hogan GA Dome. $30 lower level
Somewhere between 83 and 85 Mid South came to the junior high gym in Franklin Louisiana a few times. My dirt poor family who lived in government housing down the road would walk down there and see the matches. Had to be fairly cheap.
Oh to be able to go to those shows live!
I felt priveledged going to a "Spot show" in my high school gym. Imagine seeing HBK as a Greener than a Pepper Tree Teenager.
When I was a kid we would go see the matches in OKC and some big shows in Norman
I paid 8 dollars for a ringside in 1984 for a wwe show. Great card too. But I lived in a small town in Upstate NY and the tickets were cheaper than the shows I saw in actual cities.
It’s a shame Vince killed the territories prematurely 😢
I would've loved to be at the first episode of Monday Night Raw. That must've been so cool to experience.
Tickets will go up what what's being charge to run these areas. I know since the baltimore arena reopened earlier this year the fees to use it have gone up.
Jim and the Midnight talked about the Texas territories and having to work West Texas. I'd have loved to see the look on his face had they have to work the backup venue in Odessa. The main venue was the county coleseum and most of the seats were on the floor though there were GA seats that were not that close to the ring. The back up venue was a small fieldhouse across town at one of the city parks.
They’re only gonna keep charging these prices as long as people keep paying them
In the northeast during mid 80a it was 20 for ringside at Providence civic center
This is why this is world is gonna burn in my estimation.
I'm hoping Marvin the Martian finally succeeds at blowing up the earth.
Love when Jim goes back into the history of wrestling. But the problems with now a days over back then is quite a lot. One is a lot of times the promotion made their own tickets and could set their own prices. The other is inflation. The worst problem is dealing with Ticketmaster (I call them ticket bastards). They charge outrageous prices to the companies, with the excuses of bogus fees, and then the promotion has to set more prices. Plus now Ticketmaster works with scalper prices. And then you have to pay ridiculous prices if you have to go to those sites. The best thing that'll never happen is Ticketmaster being regulated.
Ticketmaster needs to be subject to anti-trust laws and broken up… I don’t see how they aren’t a monopoly… and a shitty one at that!!
My girlfriend went to hell and back to get Taylor Swift tickets after already having 4 tickets to the show that got canceled cuz of the Wuhan virus and Ticketassmaster promised those people first dibs but ended up screwing millions of people worldwide.
AEW tickets priced for fanatics. I've given up hope the promotion will ever expand the fan base.
First live Mid South card I seen was in 1982 in Eunice LA at the high school gym. On the card was Rick Ferarra, Bill Ash, Mr Olympia, Ted DiBiase, Bob Orton Jr, Ed Wisowski, The Wild Samoans, Brian Blair, and JYD...ring side seats were $8.00 and general admission $5.00. The bigger cards in Lafayette were $15.00 ringside, $10.00 on floor, and $8.00 in balcony. Great memories of Mid South and pelting Corny with ice (sorry Jim but I know you understand)...peaceful days to all
Ramones - 1988 Hollywood Palladium - $15
The Cure - 1989 Doger Stadium - $25
Hulk vs Flair - 1991 L.A. Sports Arena - $17
WWF @ Los Angeles, CA - Sports Arena - October 26, 1991 (13,800; 12,400 paid)
Jim Neidhart pinned Hercules
IRS pinned the Big Bossman after hitting him with the steel briefcase
Davey Boy Smith defeated Col. Mustafa
The Mountie defeated WWF IC Champion Bret Hart via count-out
The Berzerker defeated Greg Valentine
WWF Tag Team Champions the Legion of Doom defeated the Natural Disasters via disqualification when Jimmy Hart interfered
WWF World Champion Hulk Hogan defeated Ric Flair via reverse decision at 13:28; Flair had pinned Hogan by using a foreign object but another referee disputed the call; after the bout, Greg Valentine made the save
This is literally 1984.
If it is, I guess I’m 4 years old
Jim should have inducted those old school wrestler into the WWE HOF. His induction would be better than some inductor. The history and the background of the said inductee spoken by Jim would entertain, and fans would get to know and learn more about the said inductee
I never thought about it, but adjusted for inflation the indie shows I watched were almost always cheaper than Mid-South by a good margin. They should have been, all things considered, but the fact they actually were makes me happy. It also makes me less happy about spending fourteen dollars or more in 2010, but it's not like I could have changed anything if I knew better.
In New Orleans they phased out using the Municipal Auditorium and the St Bernard Civic Center in Chalmette by late 1985 in the Mid South Wrestling area.
1977 New Orleans/Chalmette Tickets for ringside were $7.50 iirc. I started going every week then when I was 9. They went up when JYD got popular to $8.00. That was around the end of 79. They went up again with RR Express and Midnight to $10.00 for those same Ringside seats. By that time I was playing music and into girls so I did not really go as much. That was probably 1983. I confirmed those prices with my mom, who bought them for us, we had the same 4 seats for 4 years. The first row ringside, in front of the stage in Chalmette. In NOLA proper my mom didn't know anyone at the Municipal Aud so we had 2nd row. The Superdome shows were different. I know they had general admission nosebleed seats for $5. Think my dad paid $15, and we were in those portable stands on the floor. Ringside was like $40-$50, iirc.
I wonder if the rise in ticket prices are do the current contracts for the weestlers and and the company machine behind them.
I remember hearing from here that wrestlers were earning like $500-1000 a night. It seemed to be a volume business for wrestlers.
It's weird thinking ticket prices are so expensive as I'm willing to bet WWE is getting more from tv deals then ticket sales. I'm curious on if a WWE house show makes a lot more money than a territory show in a similar sized building.
15:50
I was hoping that Corny would launch into his rendition of 3 is the Magic Number.
Just paid nearly $90 to take my 6-year old son to his first wwe house show, with seats as far from the ring as possible. Advertised price was $20 for gen admin… but more than doubled to over $40 on day of event (makes zero sense, nowhere near a sellout). No discount for a kids ticket. Such a ripoff, but he loved it. House shows are SO MUCH better to attend than TV. Props to AJ Styles, as he brought a 7-yr old boy from the crowd into the ring for everyone to sing happy bday!
Where did you buy your tickets? I took my kid to a wwe house show in Baltimore. Picked them up at the box office paid 20 bucks before tax. No fees doing it that way. Done a number of events never seen them go up. Probably what happen is resellers.
Imagine taking your kid to a show he really loved, and bitching about the tickets.
Assuming this story is even true. They wouldn't double the ticket price day of the show when they weren't selling much of them.
I'm from Philly, and I started attending matches regularly during the heyday of the 80's. I went to both; WWF at the Spectrum and NWA/WCW at the Civic Center. And if I remember correctly; I paid around $15 for my seats up in the 2nd or 3rd tier. I always heard that ringside was $50, which was too rich for my blood back then. I also attended one of the very first ECW shows when they were in the basement of the Mike Schmidt Sports-bar at 7th Market st., back when they were Eastern Championship Wrestling, and I think the tickets were $10, and the place only held about 300 people!
Did you ever go to the Joel Goodhardts promotion the TWA?
That's pretty awesome too btw
@@anthonymartin9923 ...no, I never went to any of Goodheart's shows. But I've heard good things.
Yeah me too I heard that was the precursor to Eastern Championship Wrestling some of family would tell me about it. I'm originally from Detroit but living in Phoenix now and I have family I'm Eastern and western PA.
That was pretty rich petty from Tod Gordon. $3K house, WTF?!
I went to my first live card in the spring of 1964 at Sunnyside Gardens in NYC and tickets were $2, 3, and 4. Generally 5-6 matches what I would now call a standard house show.
Fast forward to 1977 when I was a student at University of Memphis. Huge card at Mid South Colosseum including title matches and the occasional battle Royale.
Tickets couldn't have been more than $2 higher if that.
The prices, quality of the action and even the crowd in Memphis spoiled me for life.
I had the pleasure of seeing it live in Tulsa 82-84. JYD was Stagger Lee when we were there. Dr. Death just breakin into biz. Capt Redneck, Dibiase, etc. Awesome
If I’m not RINGSIDE, I don’t want to be on the floor, can’t see anything because everyone always stands. Enjoy seats up in stands where seats are raising up
I can´t wait to hear jim´s reaction to the fiasco that was the closing segment of dynamite this week 😂
I noticed Moxley talking to the Bucks in the background when Kingston came in lol atleast try & hide it.
@@Elove8703 yeah I´ve noticed that too, that was really embarrasing
Your comment has nothing to do with the topic
@@sebastianwhpx298 that‘s right my friend, but unfortunately I couldn‘t keep my anticipation with me
@@lilaustrianyoutubedude3130 Lol it's all right my friend. This weeks Dynamite review will be a treat 👍
A few months back a friend of mine bought 5 tickets for WWE Monday night raw and he spent $340 on tickets that were Not even on the floor and nowhere close to the ring and he was paying $68 a ticket.
Uh oh. The Bill Watts experience. He been waiting for this lol
I remember being a regular in lake charles for mid south wrestling
i agree immensely with your last statement jim. i really do; probably the most honest sentiment ive ever had!
Talk about Little Rock, Ark Barton Coliseum.
When I was 16 me n my brother who was 15 would drink at nashville fairgrounds wrestling fuzz didn't care so long u act right
Tulsa World Order 4 Life!
Most of those expensive tickets are scalpers.
Yes those were the rays.
I was a ringside regular at the Philly civic center in the mid 80's. When Crockett first started there in February of 1985, the ringside sections were $10 and that price was pretty consistent throughout 1985 as they were building a fan base in Philadelphia. The tickets for the next card would go on sale before the matches or during the beginning of the show about 2 matches into the card, so I would be among the group of people who would get to the arena early in the afternoon before the doors opened in order to be among the first few people in line to buy tickets to the next month's show so I could guarantee a front-row seat.
While waiting in line in November 1985 to get tickets to the12/28/85 show which featured the Bunkhouse stampede, the attendant behind the window put up the sign with the prices which indicated that ringside seats were now $15 (guess they needed to cover that "$10,000 prize"). This unexpected 50% increase was devastating for me as a a 12-year-old kid who earned money by washing dishes at a banquet hall in South Philly. Plus the fact that I wasn't sure if I had an extra $10 on me to cover the increase for 2 tickets. Thankfully, I was able to scrape together the extra $10 in singles and change, but there would be no purchasing of any merch or hot dogs that night. I also recall paying $50 for a 3rd row seat at the Bash on 7/1/86 at Veteran's Stadium as well as $50 for a ringside seat at the 87 Bash at the Philly Civic Center even though it was in the smaller venue. Halloween Havoc 89 also had a $50 ringside ticket price.
The way Cornette said,"Waiters from HOOTERS."😂😂😂
Was Nick Adams there as a sperm?
$12 BUCKS!!!!! Geezus
Remember when I was a youngster I saw Shawn Michaels vs sid in the Alamo dome saved my money for my ticket sat mid level great seat ticket was 30.00 bucks for a great show wth is wrong with aew
The Economy
@@rondoughhowell6442 That's not the economy. This is Tony's insane pricing.
In 2005 I paid 20 pounds to attend Raw. Then, at the show, they announced ring side tickets for Smackdown were on sale, and we paid 50 pounds.
How much for the year i wonder for one town
-- Tulsa Time --
How come Jim dies addition out loud, somewhat slowly, then instantly had a percentage calculation to hand?!?
I know this isn’t the video to say this. But. People think Jim’s hatred of Russo is because Jim got fired. Really. Russo is so Never mind. Think about it.
To be fair the wrestling shows at my high school are still those prices just the arena that house are football team costs a little more 😂😂😂
1 beer cause they were 15 and 16 funny
When I was a kid, I could by a concert tickets with 5 bands for 7$ Now it's 125$ to see Post Malone and Bieber. WFT?
How much for the all day music festival 🤔
Musicians make almost zero money on music sales nowadays. That’s the only reason concert tickets are so expensive. It’s basically the only way they make money.
Holyshit after listening to this podcast for 4 years Brian Last blows me away with his knowledge of wrestling
12 to 14 bucks
I have been thinking about these extremely overpriced tickets for wrestling and believe that these prices may NOT be the fault of the promotions. Instead, it may be Ticketmaster's fault.
If you have been listening to the Ticketmaster debacle on the news about Taylor Swift fans outraged over Ticketmaster, then you will understand.
Ticketmaster a huge reason.. But also everything online now. Online tickets only increasing the price of events. Cashless payments too.
Uh...the act is in on it too.
i don't understand the whole payoff thing.
it seems like the promoters just paid the talent what they felt like.
am i right?
Yeah, kinda. The payoffs have never been an exact science and each promoter had his or her own method of doing it and deciding how much of the pie someone got.
@@chico1680 hi chico---
thanks for the reply.
i hope you have a great summer.
charles
@charlesradel7587 enjoy your summer as well, Charles
@@chico1680 this might sound weird but Cowboy sounds consistent with both Verne (my AWA) or Paul, Bruce's home territory. Vince wanted to be like the Rolling Stones on tour
@@chico1680 in theory there's a payoffs formula based on where your match is on the card getting X % of the gate after taxs an fees.
Kevin Dunn as Elmer Fudd!!🤣🤣😂😂🤯
It's bill watts 😂
Why would it be dunn?
Expensive tickets are Russo's fault.
How can expensive tickets be Russo's fault? Russo had nothing to do with the tickets.
Jim your a wrestling encyclopedia jeez 😂🤌💪
😂😂😂😂😂
@@scrappy93 Trash.
It would seem that prices are so much higher due to the cost of the presentation of the shows. Which, they need to make a huge extravaganza because the wrestling portion of the show sucks ass!
Sid Mouth
Corny, did you get the email 📧?
45 minutes of Jim beating around the bush to not call Bill Watts a scumbag. - that should have been the title
What does that have to do with ticket prices in Mid South?
Let's be real, every promoter has been guilty of some degree of shady shit. May as well just say "Jim's beating around the bush not to call *insert promoter here* a scumbag " on every vid about the territories
Remember if Vince does it; it’s somehow bad. If anybody from the territories did it, it’s ok.
Why don’t you two tolerant liberals talk about why everything is more expensive right now? Caugh Brandon caugh
First?!?
Nope, 3rd
Quit fooling around and drop the whole episode
Sure, after you pay their bills.
I'm sure they'd be willing to if you wrote them a big cheque.
You don't have to wait for UA-cam to have it to listen to the full episode. It's everywhere else podcasts can be found already
You be their lone sponsor and they would upload the video audio from the podcast within 24 hrs....
10 min into this… yeah can’t do 45 min of a boomer’s wet dream “back in my day” while we’re all current in a bs ticketmaster legal scalping era 😂💀
Was Brian sleeping through this whole segment???
Probably 😂
Probably smoking and watching the Metz game
Anybody else think of Star Wars when Corny says and or?