Off-grid in Italy: HOW we found our home and plans for the FUTURE | Episode 2
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- Welcome to the 2nd episode of our home renovation journey :) In this video we talk about how we found our home, the current situation and some plans for the future.
Thank you so much for your wonderful support! Stay turned for episode 3! :)
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:35 some background info
06:41 how we found our place
08:07 The current situation
09:45 Our future plans: what we need to do
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Mika, you are so kind and generous to include us who cannot join patreon at the moment and I wanted to say thank you to you both and good luck with your dreams...you deserve the best😊diane
Of course Diane! I think donations are for the times in life when you have some stability and extra money to spare. Most of the time we don't haha. We are still really happy to have you 😊 All the best, Micke
@mikaelnorlen7734 thank you and the best to both of you...
Ah loved hearing the history of how you found the house. My husband is actually watching this off grid series with me. Oh and I love hearing how things work in other places in the world. Like the mention of when you may be off grid etc. That is always very interesting to me. Hope you have a wonderful week! 💜
Thank you so much for leaving a comment, you always supported us since the beginning🥰
@@wegrowild 💜
So wish I lived closer. I’d be there with my broom and dust pan. You two are just so determined so it will happen. Sending all the good luck moving things along vibes your way.
Thank you so much, I'd be honored to have you brooming around🤎
Hurray a new episode already😍😍😍😍
So much fun to find a Swede moving abroad to live off-grid! All the off-grid Swedes I've seen have stayed in Sweden.
My husband is also foreign, and we've moved around the Nordics for a few years, but are likely aiming for Spain, though we've gone through a lot of countries in our thoughts (everything from Canada and the US to Ireland, and even just staying in Sweden or Norway).
I'm right now looking through as many off grid channels as I can to see what people say about how they make a living, because husband mine is really hesitant and wants to be sure at least one of us can have a full-time job (which is looking difficult in Spain), while I try to assure him that tons of people do it without proper employment.
I think that if you really want to live off the land you can definitely make it, and you can work online remotely maybe😊
It will come good, you both gonna fix that big hug
I Think You Two Are So Sweet. I Can't Imagine A Sweeter Couple More Deserving Of A Natural, Life.
I Know You Can Do Anything You Dream, Because You Have Each Other. And You're Willing To Work Hard. 💜
I Have Put A Garden Everywhere I Lived.
I Understand That "Roots" Feeling.
I Want To Meet People, Make Friends.
Help My Neighbors, Have Pets And Raise Animals.
@@StarfireReborn Thank you for your kind words. I know it can take a lot of trying and giving, without necessarily getting enough back, to find a place to feel at home, where your presence can feel more meaningful and appreciated. Even if on paper some places, jobs or organizations may seem like a perfect match, it could be even more important just to feel welcomed and free. I've sometimes jumped on trains with likeminded people that derailed quickly when people started competing for the same types of roles and glory :D I don't know if that made sense. I hope you found your roots already! :)
Have you thought about getting a trailer/motor home to live in while you work on your place? 😍
That way you can have a clean place to rest.
Tell that to Micke, he doesn't want to🙈😅I'd love to have either a tiny house or a van where we can stay on the land while we work. We'll see, but for now we're living in the apartment we've been staying and it's fine👍🏼🌱
It is a privilege to be a Patreon and in a very small way help two young beautiful people dream their dream xx
It is certainly also a privilege to have a Patreon supporting you when you're young in this wild world!
Oh bless you, wishing you all the best in your wonderful endeavour - Dreams are a Journey born of Courage and Belief, you can do this, you will have a wonderful home, a wonderful life there - be strong, keep happy 😄 🤗 🙋🏼 xx
Hello hello!!❤
goats, chickens, and a few sheep?? you could spin your own yarn!
I love your dreams, though at the start of anything worthwhile patients does pay off, even with the frustration of dealing with bureaucracy, it is difficult, trying to work with people who can only see their idea of life. Looking forward to your progress!
You guys are just too adorable ❤❤your Love is so evident - for each other, for the land and everything that involves ❤️your future home looks just wonderful and you will make it so gorgeous and all your hard work will pay off that’s for sure!! Looking forward to your next update and sending you lots of Love and support ❤️💥🌈❣️
Hi you two, it's so nice to follow along while you pursue your dream :) I enjoy watching your knitting podcasts as well as the new content. Sending you lots of energy from Austria, Carina
I have heard the "bureaucracy" and "speed" with which the Italian government/culture operates is very frustrating. Just have heard everything takes twice as long, workers just don't show up, and it takes forever to get changes to structures approved (especially if they're historical buildings, etc.), and yet I am still so excited for you guys. The building is so gorgeous, the windows with the views of your land, wow! Thrilled for you...hang in there...I know you'll be so glad you did! Blessings ~
wow your plans sound extremely nice! i think a mix from all the practises/philosophies (regenerative ag, permaculture, greenhouse/gardening etc.) that fits your individual needs in harmony with the specific place is absolutely ideal. I'm very happy for you that you have come so much closer to doing it, even if you're not there yet ^^ and very excited about seeing your journey unfold with it 💕
Good luck with everything! You are amazing!
Here we know all about bureaucracy, hang in there, you just have to be more persistent then they can imagine. All the best from Romania!
I’m new to you all, hang in there and reap the rewards of building your own future. How fortunate you are to be young and strong together, keep your sense of humor at the ready, it will help!! I’m cheering you on from Phoenix, Arizona, in the U.S.
Just a little 💶 towards your new home projects! Congratulations 🍾 on your new property
Oh goodness thank you so much🤎🤎🤎🌱💐
Hey Martina en Micke, your video's are starting to inspire my deep desire to live in nature. The way you show your love for all the plants and animals and the world in general makes me so happy and excited to see how my life will look like after my art studies! Sending love and good luck on this beautiful journey! ❤
Side note: I'm knitting a vest/tanktop in sock yarn for my partner :)) it's so fun to knit for loved ones! (And for ourselves too) ❤
wow, how exciting! good luck with everything! can't wait to follow your journey! rooting for you
Thank you so much!!🤎🌱🌷
You are able to make all your Dreams come true, beste regards and a very nice day from germany
Tak!
ohhh thank youu🤩
Lots of luck with your project - it looks very exciting!
So much fun to watch! good luck! Sending love and best wishes from Massachusetts, US. ❤❤❤
Wondering if you could look into the info to be a general contractor? They would have all the code requirements! My husband got the books as if were going to get his contractor’s license 😉. So happy to be part of your journey ❤
I'm not sure if I understand what you mean by general contractor. In italy there is a person called Geometra that works kind of like a spider in the web and in theory should know all the requirements and talk to the municipality/regional offices etc. But for some reason, different Geometras can arrive at different conclusions and there always seem to exist some secret workarounds. For example, if you want to build a small structure to put solar panels on your land, there is a lot of bureaucracy involved. But if you put it on wheels you're good to go! :D
@@mikaelnorlen7734 Here in the US there are inspectors who
Have to approve for example of the electrical installed is correct to “code” before the construction can continue. So a general contractor would know the rules. It sounds to me that Geometras would be the same as inspectors here. The code requirements should be the same for everywhere in the US but I’m sure there are inspectors who are asses 🙄. Maybe you can ask the head of the well and/or the solar installers for information. They should have rules/codes they have to follow and their installs will be approved by the Geometras? I’m sure you will be friendly with the installers and the Geometras who in turn will want to help you!
@@julieknitsandspins Yes, then I understood you well, this is pretty much what we are trying to do and it should go well. Our current geometra actually seems good now, so I really hope we can just keep going with him in peace from here!
Go go go !!!!!!! You’ll make it! I hope you get the well and solar panel put together sooner than later so you can inprint yourself in this beautiful place. Am sure this will be a great adventure, full of challenges but many learnings and a lot of satisfaction! You’ll make it happen with your determination, love and get this dream come true. Sending you much hugs and love. Delphine
Fingers crossed my dear Delphine ❤ I send you so much love and thank you for your everlasting support❤
That place is soooo, beautiful, I would not care if I had power.❤
Oh I’m so happy that you finally found your place! Congratulations! ☺️
Someday I come and visit and help you in your garden! 😘
Me to some a gardener and my husband some a carpenter 😅
so exciting - love from Denmark ❤
So exciting!
Che meraviglia la vostra casa in mezzo al verde!! Siete bravissimi ed avete un bel progetto di vita insieme in mezzo alla natura 🌿 Supererete di sicuro tutti gli ostacoli ( burocrazia inclusa) e pian piano il vostro sogno diventerà realtà💕🌿
Alpacas 🦙🦙🦙!!! What about an Alpaca-farm 😍😂😍
I couldn't wait to watch- I'm so excited for you two. God bless and I will pray for resolution to your challenges. ❤
Thank you so much!🤎
@@wegrowild 💕💕💕
Good luck with everything! ❤
Wishing you soooooo much luck with this incredible project you lovely people. I'm sure you are on the right path. Of course it won't be easy, but your plans are pure and true. Just take it one step at a time and try to enjoy the journey. ❤
You two are so inspiring and your plans sound amazing! What a beautiful stone house and land! My husband and I are doing something similar in Virginia in the USA. We bought a 148 year old farmhouse that has no power and electric yet, but we moved onto the land and are living in a camper while we do the work. It’s definitely been very exciting, but also a little overwhelming at times! I will definitely be following along on your exciting new journey!
Oh wow that sounds like an exciting and amazing journey as well! It so smart to live in a camper while you're there, it really makes everything easier and faster since you're already there.🛠👐🤎good luck and keep us posted🤎
thank you for sharing. There are no trees on the property yet as far as I saw it. May be you can plant fruit trees and some for shade eventually so they can grow in the meanwhile. This year I planted two Maroni trees ....wish you the very best hugs from Germany
Yes, we have some trees on the side, but we are definitely looking to plant more soon! I actually bought like 50 pots thinking to pre-cultivate 50 trees 2 years ago, but then we moved to Portugal and had to give away all the pots :D All the best!
@@mikaelnorlen7734 such a good plan with the 50 pots.... may be someone has trees for you this time! The best maroni is "Belle Epis" and it is worth to spend some money for it - food for month every year. Love from a little permakulture in Germany
@@katjafarbenfroh8646, Thank you! I'll try to get my hands on it ^^
Thanks!
God bless you both I pray every thing work out for you young people
You two are adorable 😊 I'm very excited for you! You will get through the bureaucracy eventually... one step at a time
Good luck with everything and take care of yourselves during this process of constructing a new off grid life! 🍀🍀
I am sooooo excited to watch this journey. Your vision sounds so absolutely beautiful. Take care of yourself ❤ I know how easy it is to burn out when you feel unrooted and your home isn’t clean lol just take care of yourself and keep the finished goal in mind! It will be so beautiful in the end
Thank you ma love, I hope we have something ready when you come and I hope your house situation is moving forward as well!
I just found you on the first podcast about your off-grid home. I loved it and really enjoyed this episode giving us the story that led up to the purchase. So looking forward to your exciting journey. I do hope you are keeping a journal. It will be so great to look back on some day when it is completed. ❤❤
This is so exciting!!! I am so proud of you guys! Currently, still on crutches, still in pain, but watching your posts cheers me up so much! Much love from Indiana 😊
Get better soon!
it is so exciting. I look forward to seeing your journey with creating your true home
I wish you continued success in this big adventure! My fingers are crossed for you and I hope you are able to move in soon. Can't wait to see how this all develops. Of course having sheep on the farm would be unbelievable, but one step at a time! ❤
Congratulations for your new future home! How I understand you about all the administrative things, all the norms, all the « must do » which very often does not fit a sustainable way of living… even in Switzerland.
How great for the hemp/lime isolation! We did this few months ago, it’s such an amazing material. Just make sure if it is compatible with the concrete walls because it must breathe. Anyway, I wish you all the best, all the force you need, it’s a challenging project and takes so much energy but it worth it because you create your own home… be patient and keep going towards your dream. Hugs from Switzerland 🇨🇭
I'm much appreciating to hear that you are also hemp people like me! And the concrete compatibility is also a very good advice. We talked to a firm around here and they said it was all good, but it might be worth to double check that. Hugs!
Thanks for update!!! Hope things get easier and you get to move in sooner than later!❤
So Proud of You Guys!God Bless You Both ❤️❤️❤️
👏👏👏 did you think about having volonteers to help you ? Like woofers ? That would be awsome to come helping you 😍
We've been thinking about that but we cannot really offer much since there's no electricity nor water yet🙈maybe when we have those two set up, it will definitely work better 🤎
I’ve been planing to do some woofing in Italy. Your place looks amazing! I would definitely woof there.
Your journey is going to be so exciting and I’m looking forward to watching it all! ❤❤❤
Amazing accomplishment. Looking forward to following your journey ❤
Omg, what an enormous, life- changing, exciting undertaking you have taken on!!! I am floored, I had no idea you were facing this much physical labor. The two of you are young, healthy and strong, you share your love and your dreams, you have knowledge, abilities, enthusiasm and a huge zest for life: there is no doubt in my mind you will succeed! 💕💕
As for the bureaucracy: it is a hard and cruel fact of life that it makes everything more difficult rather than less so. Having faced more than my fair share the last 4 years dealing with immigration bureaucratic brick walls for loved ones, my heart goes out to you. Maybe, just maybe, amongst your followers there is a person or two who might know someone who knows someone who knows something 🍀🍀. Just maybe. I wish that for you. And if not, take a big breath and tackle one step, then the next. At least if you get super frustrated you can run outside to your land with a hoe and start weed hacking.😂 Wishing you joy and endurance!!
Oh Rebecca, I loved to read your comment! It felt like I was reading a letter from a friend from afar who cares about us🤎
Thank you for taking the time,
I send you so much joy and abundance
@@wegrowild yes… a friend in Berlin 💚
Congratulations and GOOD for you. Love your plans and the house is beautiful
My big question is: How do you pay for the house? I am asking because this is the main obstacle for me to buy a place on my own. I would be glad to get some inspiration for this. Housing is so expensive whether rent or buy.
We had an apartment that we sold, basically funded from our families. I guess the only advice I can give, if you are willing to move around, is to find a place where houses and land is cheap. Sometimes the cheap areas are even more beautiful. And sometimes cheap can be really really cheap. I know in Italy some sparsely populated municipalities have been selling properties for 1€ or renting out apartments for free, just to bring life back to their villages. We passed by some of those areas and were definitely considering some of the places. Most of them, as most houses in general, were in villages. We were looking for something more off, otherwise it could've worked. Good luck!
Wow congratulations guys Im happy for you this is a huge step that I really appreciate you’re sharing it with us 💕💕 wishing you all the luck with zero obstacles through the way - maybe maybe you can have a knitting and foraging camp in this beautiful place in a few years who knows 🤩🤩🤩 love all the way from Kuwait
Thank you! Zero obstacles failed a while ago xD Yes I'm always wanting to invite everyone which probably wouldn't work. But I'm sure we (or probably mostly the more reasonable Martina) can come up with something later on :D Blessings are being sent to Kuwait!
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Wonderful to hear about and follow your journey. Have you thought of getting solar power generators to use until you get the solar system built?
Yes! That's what we've been looking into the past weeks, we'll see what we'll find🤎🙏🏼
Nice to hear the story about the house!! Very cool that you are taking us on your adventure. I am still a student now, and I see your off-grid adventure as a good learning process for my own future🙂. I have taken a number of courses on permaculture and food forestry and I really recommend that you delve into the 10 principles of permaculture, especially since you are living off-grid and plan to use all energy (solar, water and electricity) as efficiently as possible. Looking forward to your next video!!
That's great! We can be your guinea pigs :D Are you a student of permaculture or are you also studying something else? I've studied permaculture and soil biology as well some years ago! I also wrote my master's about the food system, how much land it would require to produce all the food a family needs in a year, and how greenhouses can be used at different temperatures and lighting scenarios to increase production or food variety. It was nice that you reminded me of the principles which I had completely forgotten, and good luck with your studies! /Micke
@mikaelnorlen7734 I am doing a master in plant sciences/natural resource management, and my interests are in (alternative) agriculture and soil biology. So I think we have a similar background. And I would love to help/advise you with the design!!
@@YanavM Sounds great! So good to hear that people are studying these things. I haven't actually started thinking too much about our garden yet as we've been so focused on the house. I guess we have to do a more dedicated episode on it later so we can discuss it better.
But in general now that you mentioned this, What do you think about something like this?
1. Start with just hand planting some symbolic trees that we like.
2. Buy a diverse mix of low-growing, perennial cover crops to protect and cover the land suppress invasive plants and reduce the need for pruning.
3. Buy seed mixes or transplant more trees and bushes, a bit ordered by height to define natural rooms.
4. Meanwhile Martina creates a beautiful garden with all the plants she loves (she is the herbalist)
5. I also want to plant a lot of bamboo!
6. Start digging swales for water retention.
I think I would like to call our strategy low-maintenance ordered chaos gardening.
@mikaelnorlen7734 Yes, I think this sounds like a great plan! And for the cover crops, try to choose species that do fixate nitrogen. There are even some trees that can fixate nitrogen as well. Also, think about planting trees next to the house to provide shadow during summer. And yes I think a low maintenance garden is important now you are working most of the time on the house. And for the herb garden, think about the different zones in your garden. For something you visit daily, place it next to the house🙂
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Also, can you use a generator temporarily?
Yes, we're actually looking into that, we'll get one soon🙏🏼🤎
Are you able to put in water tanks and collect rainwater?
I think so, we're looking into that too but in a few weeks we'll have a well so that will be good too🙏🏼🤎
where about are you in italy ?
In the center🤎